A key Tamil Tiger leader has spoken exclusively to Channel 4 News, saying their chief is still alive and they want a political solution. Alex Thomson reports.
Alex Thomson (AT): What is the latest situation for LTTE in Sri Lanka?
Selvarajah Pathmanathan (SP): Our organisation is ready to lay down its arms and participate in the peace process.
AT: How many cadres or soldiers are involved here?
SP: Less than 2000 cadres. They are in the perimeter area. We prepared to stop the war. Our people are dying. Every hour more than a hundred dying. More than 3000 die from yesterday. 25,000 wounded.
AT: These are civilians, yes?
SP: Yes.
AT: What are you calling on the Sri Lankan government to do?
SP: From yesterday we are calling on talks to stop the fighting and immediate ceasefire. We are ready to lay down the arms and participate in the peace process.
AT: Is this end of the war after all these wars?
SP: Yes we'd like to end this war.
AT: What do you say that the LTTE will continue fighting by other means, guerrilla war?
SP: I believe that over the 38 years we fight and only the civilian and human life are every day dying. The...in another 30 years will continue we don't believe that - we believe in peaceful way for solution for Tamil people.
AT: What are the orders from the LTTE leader Velupillai Prabhakaran ?
SP: Prabhakaran actually ordered that. For 4 hours I talked to him - he passed this message to Sri Lanka Government and international players...and we are waiting for their answer. Until now no one give their answer or no one stop the war.
AT: Is Mr Prabhakaran still in this area in Sri Lanka?
SP: Yes sir.
AT: And you spoke to him from this surrounded area, and he is ready to surrender?
SP: Not surrender. We are lay down the arms not surrender.
AT: Why not surrender?
SP: Actually its mainly a thing...about security...we take arms for freedom struggle - why surrender to them. We ready to work with them not surrender.
AT: Why did LTTE take so many human shields and not allow them to leave?
SP: We never take the civilian with us. The civilian they are relative our family or the related. Or they don't believe Sri Lankan army will give security to them. They don't like to go to camp. As you know they torture and harassment. They don't want to go to Sri Lanka forces. The government stop medicine and food. People are dying without. We asked - we sent 35,000 out ourselves. We don't take human shield. It's the wrong information. Wrong propaganda.
AT: So its not true then that LTTE cadres fired on civilians to prevent them leaving?
ST: Actually we never shoot them. Some crossfire happened. Why would we kill our own people?
AT: Can I ask about the two doctors who were giving interviews about the condition of the civilians. They have disappeared?
SP: Last night one doctor injured. We send them to the military side. And for the treatment. Actually now I heard one doctor in Colombo for treatment other in military camp.
AT: To summarise, the condition of the commander Pr...LTTE are willing to lay down weapons but not surrender?
SP: Yes not surrender - willing to lay down arms not surrender.
AT: So is the war over or changing?
SP: War maybe over or changing to political way. Depending on few hours to see what going on. We are saying...willing to lay down arms...willing to lay down arms and find political solution for our nation.
Sunday, May 17, 2009
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To be honest, I have no faith in international pressure.
This will show that Mahinda's calls for LTTE to surrender were all fake.
It is too bad that there is no brakes built into Mahinda's war machine, because if he actually had long term vision for peace he would accept this offer and provide some sort of down graded federal solution. It takes the bigger man to offer something to a weakened opponent for the sake of peace, and from what I know, Mahinda isn't that bigger man.
It's clear he will go for the crushing blow, and then we will see whether he was fooled or whether he was right. Either way it won't bring the peace that he could have had by showing mercy to the Tamil people.
dw reporting now VP escaped...
hahah...last time his post said VP committed suicide...
oh boy...are this ppl so confused...
modaya style...
badri..
I too dont believe international pressure will bring any changes..
but now shit lanka government propaganda will backfire...
Bhadri,
I agree with Peter's views on this one.Its a challenge thrown by the Tigers to the IC and more specifically to India.
Noone else is in a better position than India to enter the picture now.
But with the past bitter history,India will not meddle with the Tiger's again.
So literally both sides are putting forth conditions that is not acceptible to the other side
1>Tiger's say let IC take care of civilians,which Srilanka will not agree to
2>Srilanka say's Tigers should surrender,which TIger will not do.
However I dont understant what KP means when he says "We are ready to lay down arms;But will not surrender".If he is talking about something which happened in '87,its very easy to call the bluff,for we all know what happened later
m.q.k,
I think it all adds up pretty well.
sure eddapan it adds up pretty well for u who is sucking sinhala cock...
cogress supporter like u are just selfish...just enjoy will ur well paid coolie money...dont throw the sympathy here.. Italian ruling over india..shameful...
Defencewire surrendered "sea tigers leader Chelian" today after they killed him last week, and also some time in 2008. So twice killed and once surrendered.
badri....
he is writing too much nonsense every time.. he forgets what he wrote...heheh...
badri,,,
this post previously
http://www.smh.com.au/national/tamils-sinhalese-clash-in-westmead-20090517-b7ek.html
would do for future article..
The ball is in the IC court. Will they do something to save Tamils? My doubts.
If not, they show themselves hypocrites, liars and not credible. But, I don’t think that matters them. They have already gone to war in Irak lying.
Now, if MR stops the war listening to some IC pressure, his own schizophrenized people will not let him a cake walk ..
I fear more killing of Tamils
At this point, I highly doubt VP + LTTE leadership, sensitive families are in the NFZ. Considering how the 4 doctors managed to cross the lagoon and end up in omanthai without being encountered by sri lankan army indicates there is a wide open corridor.
The LTTE also has a plan b and probably much like us highly doubt IC sencirity. This is clearly a plan to shut out the Congress fuckers.
LTTE's appeal to the IC is more to expose it than in genuine expectation.
There are many, even Tamils, who may in the future argue that if LTTE renounces violence, IC will ensure the safety of our people; this has certainly happened in the past.
In this respect, today is highly significant: even when LTTE offered to surrender weapons and renounce violence, IC doesn't give a damn.
I suspect LTTE would wait throughout tomorrow, as it is the first working day.
What the future may hold will most likely be revealed on Wednesday.
LTTE's offer to surrender weapons would have had an impact if its was made 2 months or even 2 weeks ago. It would have given the IC time to put a little more pressure on SL.
Now, when the last bunker is being overrun? Do not delude yourselves that it gives the LTTE any leverage with the IC, or a moral ascendancy.
well this is the sadest day in all our lives. Lost we have comprehensively. What happens next is in the hands of the gods. calling them the Sinhala Modaya is not something that fits anymore - The've proved that! Nandakumkar
Honestly, I'm a little disappointed in the LTTE. I know they banked on IC intervention, as did all of us. But if this surrender had come months ago, all those civilian would not have died... :(
Now the only solution is IC help... or else the Tamils of Sri Lanka seem doomed...
[But if this surrender had come months ago, all those civilian would not have died... ]
Exactly!!
Finally a Tamil who is not a total Peelamist!!
I do not know if the above two posters are trolling. What I will say is this:
Most of you guys here are too fixated on the LTTE, to the exclusion of everything else. And that is a fundamental mistake because the rest of the world - myself included - considers them to be murderous thugs.
You have tied the SL Tamil identity to the LTTE and that is a lose - lose proposition.
That will get you nowhere. Look at India; the elections in TN bear my point.
Hell, look at me. As an Indian (from the north) I have worked/ studied with Tamils. There is NO ONE I know of who admires the inherent capabilities of Tamils in India more than me- their amazing culture, their achievements, their intellectual capabilities, their individual accomplishments.
I do not know Tamilian more than a few words: Vanakkam, Illai,maybe even ayyo :)
As an Indian, Tamil culture makes my heart swell with pride.
But I detest the LTTE, and there is no compromise there. And when you persist in your mindless support of the LTTE, there we part company.
[Now the only solution is IC help... or else the Tamils of Sri Lanka seem doomed...]
Still banking on IC!!!
SLA has been your saviors, not IC, admit that!!
For the path LTTE has taken, it has arrived at the logical end. You may call me names now, but I said this is exactly what will happen many months back.
Don't take the IC as fools. If
lTTE really cared about civilians they should have offered this surrender at least 3 months back when it was possible to do so and it would have shown some genuine concern towards civilians.
I can't believe why some of my diaspora brothers are so lame in their thinking capacity.
GAY AN
go & fuck UpulJ
IC has an opportunity to bring an end to the conflict by accepting its offer to surrender weapons.
If IC ignores it, and bets on SLA being able to militarily 'finish off', it would essentially lose any credibility to call on the LTTE to 'renounce violence and terrorism'.
As I type, I hear that, there is an influential lobby in the moda land and abroad trying to convince MR to accept the surrender offer. However, since it wouldn't go well with the average banda, i seriously doubt MR taking note.
At defencewire, patriots started going crazy attacking Mahinda when DW posted that Prabhakaran had escaped. Now they are calling Mahinda a traitor for lying to them that the war was over.
lol i saw what was on dw, hilarious. Seems these sinhala modayas will turn on anyone who doesn't appease them. SLA wil never be the saviours of the Tamil people of Sri Lanka. And as far as I know, the battle is still going on. Plus, VP still hasn't been caught.
Remember this, the LTTE are the Tamil people. Every blow you inflict on our people will come back a hundred fold. If the LTTE cannot fight tomorrow, then someone else will take their place. The will of the Tamil people can never be extinguished.
I added the video of the interview. There is one mistake in the official transcription. KP actually says "I spoke to him before 4 hours", i.e. he spoke to Prabhakaran 4 hours ago. But the TV channel transcribes it as "I spoke to him FOR 4 hours".
Listen the the Soosai audio again and catch the sound at 55 seconds. Is that the sound of a car horn? It could also be a distortion caused by the transmission.
If it is a car horn, then he isn't in the war zone. There are no sounds of firing, nor other people making any noises, but an apparent car horn. Of course it may just be a distortion in the transmission.
Indian Media is full of reports of Praba death & the subsequent expert comments from one Srilankan Military spokesman or another.
One of my friend in chennai told that CITY CENTER a sprawling shopping mall was closed abruptedly at 8 pm after news of Prabha death came in.
Whether Praba death is a calculated propaganda by GOSL or a rumor baloon that got blown up several times may never be known.
It appears that there is NO TRACE of prabha considering the reports coming from Srilanka now
http://www.liveleak.com/item?a=view&token=e2c_1241612264
About that video, its very disturbing to see the result of war, but then I have seen thousands of civilians with their stomachs and heads blown to bits, so it doesn't hurt me like it used to.
It's heartening to hear that VP and his core leadership are alive but what more troubling to me is the news of 25,000+ wounded Tamils who are unattended in the NFZ now. God, plz help these people!
LOl@DW jokers. I was having a laugh there last night.
Veeran,
I suspect RAW is attempting to panic/nab any Tiger cadres who may be in India. They are hoping sleeper cells would make contact with handlers if they fear VP has died. I think RAW reckons VP's death would be cue for fireworks.
Latest TamilNet article does a good job of explaining the surrender offer to the US.
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=79&artid=29400
Peter,Upul,mgk,Badrinath, Lets try to perceive reality as it is without clouding it with our emotions so we can assess correctly where we stand and take correct decisions in the future.This is a SURRENDER! If ever there was one in human history,This is it.The LTTE has been squarely beaten,though not fairly.This is not a' calculated' move to 'expose the International community' or anything.They are not in position for that NOW!.Anyway after being let down by the IC and facing down the gun barrel,why on earth do you think they would be bothered to expose the IC?what for?To whom? Survival is the 'need of the hour'.All they can hope for now is that Rajapaksha would show mercy.I think he would want to.Not out of any humane considerations, high moral values or with a vision of the future, But because of the compulsive urge of any Sinhalese leader to repeat the Dutugamunu history who they believe did the same for his conquered enemy.But unfortunately I doubt whether there is enough time for the orders to abort the offensive can trickle down the chain of command in time.All the more reason, again, why I believe this announcement by the LTTE is not by design but by sheer necessity.
As some of the posters here said that VP should have called it off few months back, I echo the same tone. Either way it was very hard call, lets say, combination of SLA's past human rights records- raping and killing of women, and the IC factor which LTTE thought IC won't be spectators when 1000s of people get killed,really put off any good decision making abilities of LTTE. At the least, LTTE should have called off when Theepan and other LTTE leaders were killed.
When you are dealt a bad hand, it's not a wise idea to hold onto until the last minute regardless of your past winning history. This is where LTTE missed the fallen Mr.Balasinham.
There are two possibilities:
1) Key leaders are out of the war zone, and the "surrender" offer is being given to test the IC and Rajapaksha, to show the calls to surrender were always a lie.
2) All the key leaders are in the war zone, and it is an actual surrender of last resort. If this is the case, then this has to be one of the worst planned defences in history. It's one thing to fight to the death against all odds - thats bravery. Its another thing to fight against all odds and then ask to surrender when it comes to your door step - that's stupidity.
In the event that it is a real surrender, Rajapaksha can completely clear his name by accepting it and by providing the LTTE with a political platform to achieve Tamil equality. Instantly the IC would forgive him for having killed 20,000 civilians, and everyone would put the past behind and try to move forward in a peaceful way. He has a lot to gain internationally by this move.
But on the down side, the Sinhalese masses may crucify him or assassinate him and call him the biggest traitor ever. The public wants more blood, and unless he gives it to them, they will come for his blood.
peter, mgk, badri:
http://www.globaltamilnews.net/
seems to give some analysis that corroborates with a looser (I won't say who).
By the way, you can already see how Sinhalese are talking in defencewire, calling for all streets in the North to be named after Sinhalese soldiers, all cities to be renamed to Sinhala names, all "government land" (i.e. all land), to be given free to Sinhala soldiers. There will be no devolution of powers. There will only be slavery. You may have to learn to live with it until Tamils become strong again.
What is the conclusion there, so many articles.
sorry this the article:
http://www.globaltamilnews.net/tamil_news.php?nid=9664&cat=1
Well, Due to their mood swinging problems in their gens, Sinhalese simply can't be trusted. They can be friends today but next day they will chop your head. When religious folks take center stage in any country's politics, you see that country easily can become a failed state. Yellow robe men and Muslim fanatics are no different here. Obviously Srilankan politics is heavily influenced by Yellow robe men.
The way they killed 60k+ Sinhala youth in less than a year and the killing of 15,000 innocent Tamils and wounding another 30,000+ in less than 4 months in Wanni tell one thing that Tamils can't coexist with Sinhalese anymore in SL.
it completely breaks my heart to see and hear of so many of our people dieing in the hands of these bastards sinhala army. it is great worry that the ic has been acting indifferent. Many of us are more determined than ever to lend our support for a free tamil eelam. tamils cannot coexist with the sinhalese (end of discussion).
Badrinath, "BRAVERY AND STUPIDITY ARE THE SAME THING, ONLY THE RESULT SEPARATES THE TWO" Now would be an opportune moment to reflect upon what three decades of war has finally resulted in. Your second conclusion seems to be more accurate regardless whether Mr.Prabhakaran is still there or not.
Badri,
Both of what you mention are possible. However, if VP had not been able to think steps ahead, he could not have survived for 30 years against all odds. I think it is best to put aside speculations about VP as we would get clarifications on Wednesday.
Upul,
I would be cautious about reading too into that news article.
Upul and Bhairav,
What you guys are saying has been the foregone conclusion since Sinhala Only. "எத்தனை இடர் வரினும் இலட்சியப் போர் தொடரும்"
badri, peter and upul, i truly believe that this move by the ltte is to highlight the fact that mahinda and the IC were never really prepared to offer any sort of solution to the tamils, they have asked all along for the ltte to surrender and they have offered to do so fully knowing that it will be rejected....after this the IC will have no more excuses and wont be able to blame the tigers for the situation....as for the ltte, i am sure that the majority have moved out of that area a long time back
thiru,
My opinion on the issue is exactly the same as yours.
Peter, if VP was such a Nauetredamos how did he get into this mess in the first place?
thiru, Your argument is flawed.You assume that the majority of the LTTE moved out "a long time ago".Then why didn't the LTTE offer to surrender A LONG TIME AGO? and show it's concern for the safety for the civilians instead of waiting until the government announced that All the civilians have already been 'rescued'.This offer NOW by the LTTE doesn't win any respect for them since in the eyes of the IC they do it now because they are forced to and not because they want to.And they won't blame the government for not accepting it because they understand NOW there's nothing the government will gain by doing so.On the contrary,by conceding that the civilians suffer because of the armed struggle of the LTTE,though indirectly by providing the government an excuse to harm Tamil civilians,the LTTE drives itself to a corner in the diplomacy war as well since it begs the question 'then why didn't the LTTE silence it's guns EARLIER?
Peter,Since your opinion on the issue is exactly the same may be you can answer these questions?
Guys, what happened to Nadesan and Yogi? They weren't mentioned on the escapee's list.
விடுதலைப் புலிகள் அமைப்பை வழிநடத்துகின்ற உயர் கட்டமைப்பு, புலனாய்வுக் கட்மைப்பு, அவற்றிற்குரிய ஆளணி தளபாடங்கள் என்பவை பாதுகாக்கப்பட்டுவிட்டதாகவே புலிகளின் உட்கட்டமைப்புத் தகவல்கள் கூறுகின்றன.
ஆனால் அரசாங்கம் முன்னெடுக்கும் தற்போதைய ஊடக பிரச்சாரத்தை புலிகளும் மறுக்கப் போவதில்லை எனவும் தெரிய வருகிறது. காரணம் தொடருகின்ற சர்வதேச பிராந்திய அரசியல் நகர்வுகளிற்கு அரசாங்கத்தின் பிரச்சாரம் வெகுவாக உதவும் என்பதால் புலிகள் மொனம் காக்கவே முற்படுவர்.
தமது சர்வதேசப் பொறுப்பாளர் செல்வராஜா பத்மநாதனின் அரசியல் நகர்வுகள், அமரிக்க ஜனாதிபதி ஒபாமாவின் கோரிக்கை, அதனை நோக்கிய புலிகளின் பதில்கள், இந்திய அரசின் முன் நடவடிக்கைகள் சர்வதேசத்தின் கைகளில் வழங்கப்பட்டுள்ள பந்தை அவர்கள் பிரயோகிக்கும் முறை முதலானவற்றைப் பொறுத்தே புலிகளின் அடுத்தகட்ட நகர்வுகள் அமையும் எனவும் புலிகள் தரப்பில் பேசப்படுகிறது.
Looks like many people think its an end game. I guess pause and think. The fact is the LTTE was only holding out to see whether the BJP would come to power. Unfortunately for them it was congress.
Since that was the only reason they wanted to hold out instead of disbursing into the crowd. Now they will go back into the crowds and bide their time. I had hoped that the BJP would come to power only because lesser eelam and sri lankan people would have to die.
The LTTE leadership could be in the strip of territory or out. Pottu for example, looks like he is not in the news and could be out of eelam. Charles De Gual left france only to triumphantly return.
The situation is such that the SLA and Mahindha do not care about their people and those of the eelam people. Hence so many people been killed.
The article of the soldiers reflect how bad things are going for the soldiers and their families. Now that the "Misson Accomplished" sign is comming up. Lets see how long will they be able to sustain the situation.
Economically Sri Lankan is bankrupt. Politically and morally too. Their men and women folk still work in miserable conditions in the middle east. Its not long before things start to fall apart in Sri Lanka. I said this once and once again you cannot feed people on war stories.
As far as Sri Lanka hoping on an economic revival, in the short term a stock rally can happen. However Sri Lankan companies are in bad shape. In the US foreclosures and the Auto makers bankruptcy will push any meagniful recovery out to after 2011.
India's congress has gained political milage because of the last 5 years. However one must not forget the last 5 years of india and alot of the world's growth was due to the Investment Banks number games.
Indian congress unlike China does not have trillions in reserve to stimulate the economy. Even China's efforts are not sucessful. Its struggling. The Indian government is heavily debted and will not be able to see any meaningful recovery which some of their vote bank is counting on for another few years.
On Israel and Irelands path of independence there were many ups and down. One has to bide their time and wait to strike.
Some inside / outside facts on TN elections:
Before this I want to clarify that I am a Pucca DMK member even though i did not support DMK for this election based on EALAM issue. From my previous posts people would have understood that. In fact "Indian" would understand that the way i gave the facts about MGR.
Coming back, this time it was predicted that ADMK alliance would win upto 30 to 32 seats and ended up at 12.
It was a great planning and execution of corruption by DMK.
1. In the last two days, almost around 300 to 400 crores of Rupees had been distributed in all the constituencies.Every voter has got 300 to 500 rupees. It is very evident in the post poll analysis also. They have given the money in the all rural areas and kuppams in the city areas.
This is supported by the following facts.
a) Anna Nagar is the fort of DMK but they have got 10000 votes lesser than ADMK becuase its a upmarket locality and people do not accept money.
b) South chennai had been won by ADMK where the money had not reached more than 50% areas as its also a upmarket area.
c) Its the same case in almost all the areas exceps Karur, which is a ADMK fort except last election.
2. More than 100 booth agents of the opposition had been bought in each and every constituency at the rate of Rs.1 lakh (they are very low level cadres and 1 lakh is too much for them). This is true expecially in Virudhunagar, where VAIKO contested and in all the constituencies of PMK.
3. After buying these booth agents, if a booth has got total votes of 1000 and 600 votes had been polled by 4 pm (60%), another 200 votes had been casted by DMK cadres out of the remaining 400. The polling officers did not or could not object for this. Thats why there was a huge turnout - more than 70%
4. Now its evident that Vijaykanth has got money from Congress and contested alone and seperated the anti-incumbancy votes against DMK and congress. Not only that, KARTHIK was used to defeat Vaiko. He has polled over 17000 votes which was supposed to go to Vaiko. Otherwise, what is the necessity for karthik to contest in Virudhunagar??????
5. In Sivaganga, Mr.Rajakannappan was declared as Winner with 3455 votes and when he went to collect the certificate, he was asked to wait for 30 mts and after that the officials tole him that P.Chidambaram won by a margin of 340 votes. Then ADMK proteste and wanted a recount where PC was declared winner with a margin of 3400 votes!!!!! (Mr.Duplicate - INDIAN - this is for you)
6. In Vaiko's constituency, there were 23000 votes had suddenly entered into the system. On the day of voting, the Officials said its 744000 votes got polled. When counting was over the total votes were 767000. Where did the 23000 votes came from??????? So, if you less this 23000 and the 30000 bogus votes polled, Vaiko would have won with a margin of atleast 30000 even after DMK spending close to 100 crores only in that constituency.
Even yesterday there was road blockade in virudhunagar and adjoining areas -not by MDMK but by common public.
7. The other constituencies, where the fraud is suspected are-
a) Sriperumpudur- where TR baalu was trailing for most of the time
b) Kancheepuram
c) Theni - Where arun was trailing until the last two rounds
So, atleast in these five constituencies the officials have played the spoil sport due to the directives they have received from the higher -ups.
I agree that my prediction has gone wrong but as Ashok, TN thmizh and infact INDIAN would agree that these are the factors which have contributed for the DMKs win in TN.
Well, the last two days have played the spoil sport in terms of money. And please take one more thing - Where ever the margins are less than 30000 nos by DMK, please read it as defeat. Thats the truth. Thats the honest truth.
Even in Bihar, they will capture the booths and cast bogus votes.
But as Tamils are more of using Brains - its a pure brain GAME done by DMK and allies. Even with the brain game - their victory margins are not so great and their margins dwindled like anything. Now karunanidhi would understand - Even after spending close to 30 billion indian rupees (3000 crores)- their margin has gone down.
I thought only for this election i will not support DMK. But after seeing the conduct of DMK - i have thrown my Membership card of DMK into fire yesterday.
Indian - Your wish came true. But i want to tell you one thing. the way you are arguing -you are trying to prove a point. Bro, there is no use of it. Our brothers are butchered and our sisters are raped. What are you trying to prove. If your father has taken a decision and it brings a hardship to the family - what would you do??? Support your father and get out of the woods or fight with the father and make him more sad?????
Indain can argue - NDTV got it right. Yes they have seen the money which was flooding in the last two days. So, they have got it right.
Anyway - Sorry guys for my wrong prediction.
25k+ Tamils are killed and injured in less than 72 hours? Where is GOD? I'm speechless. For obvious reasons, I've avoided reading "Puthinam" or "Tamilnet" for past few days. After I saw the casualty figure, I'm shell-shocked.
Vivek, Sad to see TN Tamilians preferred 500 INR by taking part on 40,000+ of Eelam Tamils' blood.
Bhairav,
soory... I disagree, see the percentage. The last minute drama staged by MK also played a role. And the victory is not at all convincing...
Bhairav,
"The way they killed 60k+ Sinhala youth in less than a year"
I never understood why the Eelamoids always bring up the JVP insurrection. Doesn't it prove that the Sinhalese are no more brutal towards the Tamils than they are with their own people?
The LTTE has murdered thousands of Tamils and endangered hundreds of thousands in the name of "Tamil liberation." Wouldn't that prove that the Tamils will never be safe in their own state?
Hello Peter. Your sister doesn't miss me, does she?
"What the future may hold will most likely be revealed on Wednesday."
Ooohh, what will it be?? The anticipated counteroffensive? The beginning of "Iraqi-style insurgency??"
wijaypala,
Your sister is well settled in Middle east sucking atleast 20 arabs. Are you satisfied now?????
Useless personalised comments - you guys are not going to change even now???
Hi Vivek,
"Useless personalised comments - you guys are not going to change even now???"
If you were to take a look at Peter's comments in defencewire.blogspot.com, you would have understood the context of what I wrote.
"Are you satisfied now?????"
Well, I heard that Kalaignar wasn't satisfied after a night with your mother. She did vote DMK like everyone else in TN, right?
Could you clarify what you meant by your sisters getting raped? Who's raping them, and why are you sitting here instead of doing something about it?
"i have thrown my Membership card of DMK into fire yesterday."
Does that mean you're voting for Congress now?
Rajapakse dead and buried by Malaysian Tamils.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmqYfLROMRU&channel=malaysiakini
Wijaypala,
Your family's dirty mind - your mind which has sold your sisters and your father's dirty mind which has sold your mother would think only who is sleeping with whom.
Meanwhile, it does not mean that i am voting to cong. You know, in my constituency,- the highest money spent by any DMK candidate- DMK lost to ADMK. ADMK's Thambithurai won the election.
Wijaypala,
I also used to post lot of comments in my original name in Defencewire. I was talking about the Indonesaian model in 2007 end i think in the same defencewire. But nowadays I understood that its useless to post anything there as you guys do not have even a single iota of tolerance.
Vivek,
"I also used to post lot of comments in my original name in Defencewire. I was talking about the Indonesaian model in 2007 end i think in the same defencewire."
I couldn't find your comments. What is your name? And why would you suggest Indonesia as a model?
[Your sister is well settled in Middle east sucking atleast 20 arabs. Are you satisfied now?????]
The Peelamists are showing their desperation by bad mouthing Sinhalese!! In fact their women are the cheap street whores in Canada,Norway, UK etc: They are just mad cause their Peelam dream is no more!!
in BTW, peter has not posted any comments in the last one or two discussions. Very frankly saying, i just read the blog and does not get in to the comments section. You know why!!! But for this today i checked it.
Why I was suggestiong the indonesian model was - at that particular point of time it was more applicable to Srilanka - A good federal structure.
But do you really think both the races can co-exist in SL at this point of time? When the SLA wins, isn't it the responsibility lies with the Leaders to be magnanimous and keep the celebrations down.
How can you do this wijaypala???? Without bias tell me. What is the signal you are giving to the remaining tamils in SL??????
Gayan,
My intention was not to hurt Wijaypala. but just see his previous post. When he is doing it to another human being i cannnot keep quiet.
In BTW Gayan,
You know about the tamil women. For them modesty is more than anything. Got it???
yes i have seen some posts beyond no 200 by peter in DW. But i think its not hurting anyone wijaypala.
[For them modesty is more than anything.]
Like wearing suicide jackets and killing their own kind!!
Vivek, the factors you listed about TN election is right on the dot. I even posted about my worry even before the vote counting day after hearing that there was about 10%+ votes polled in one hour by the end of that day. DMK tested this method in Thirumangalam by election and won in landslide victory. The reason for their victory is more of #3 than anything else. (My brother was given 2*500 rupees by DMK and promptly voted for ADMK. Like you, we are 2 generation of diehard DMK supporters. My bro said he doesn't like and trust jaya but wanted to give her a chance since talked alot about eelam this time).
I dont encourage the suicides!!! But arms had been taken to protect slef and the community. This is one way of the arm they have taken. There we need to agree my dear Gayan.
In any case, even if your analysis is true, and I have no way of stating either way, does it not go to show that the majority of Tamils who were 'bought' do not care for the LTTE, since they were 'willing' to be 'bought'?
When half the Tamilnadu population is on poverty, money can talk.
TN thamizh:
I agree with you and remember i have read your post. Infact there are more shocking things had happened. The Government employees who already are sympathizers for DMK alwyas have got pissed off the way they were treated during the voting process.
The poeple who have the Conscience are telling lot of tales. Infact on 10th Vaiko complained the entire thing to Mr.Naresh Gupta - the election commisiioner. For that,he said, Mr.vaiko, i undersand every thing. But i cant do anything. If you are able to do something by yourself, go ahead and do. Please do not complain to me. That is useless as I myself will get transferred to some other place shortly as the new Chief Election commisiioner does not like me as I am honest. But until then i want to live.
My brother-in law, who was with Vaiko's son and son-in law during that time had got shocked. In fact he is from kovilpatti and they are good friends and both my bro-in law and his brother have taken leave for 10 days for campaigning.
Even in Trichy, after Kumar declared as winner, they have not issued the certificate. Only after a road blockade, they have issued the certificate.
Today Dinamalar is trying to blame the collector of Sivaganga and trying to hide the entire thing. But its all threatening and money power which has won the elections for DMK this time. I feel very bad and ashamed for being a DMK supporter for so many years.
No Bhairav, it means, even believing for a second that they were bought (which is a conspiracy theory, IMO), it means that local issues are more important to Tamils than arm twisting the Indian government into intervening on behalf of the LTTE.
Why talk over Spoiled TN Milk ?
Even if tn gave another additional 20 seats to eelam , cong will form govt in delhi. Do Some good talk to helpw our brothers in srilanka
Saul and Bhairav,
Its not the small money which has palyed in TN. Its around 30 to billion rupees by the DMK and congress and another 3 billion by ADMK, another 2 billion by PMK also.The worst hit was VAIKO who could not spend more than 12 crores for 4 constituencies. This is the price for being honest in Indian politics. Just imagine.
Three top LTTE leaders killed: Bodies found abandoned [Updated]
Sri Lankan Special Forces soldiers have found bodies of three key LTTE leaders identified as Nadeshan, Pulidevan and Ramesh during the mop operations in the last LTTE foothold this morning( May 18). According to the latest information, the remaining LTTE cadres are now boxed into a 100m x 100m area, North of Vellamullivaikkal.
Nadeshan who was a former police constable of Sri Lanka police and known to be the political head of the outfit. Pulidevan was known to the head of "LTTE peace secretariat" while Ramesh was one of the most senior special military leader of the outfit.
One by one pussies are taken down....
Vivek,
I believe you about the money being spent in elections in India; believe me, I know this for a fact through CLOSE experience.
It takes a lot of money to fight elections in India these days. A ton of money.
But I also know this - If the people had been with him, NO amount of money could have resulted in a defeat for Vaiko and what he stood for.
LTTE terrorists abandon their chief's son; body found
Charles: Emasculate megalomaniac..
Sri Lanka Army special forces soldiers have found a body suspected to be of Charles Anthony, the elder son of LTTE chief V. Prabhakaran in the Karayamullavaikkal area this morning (May 18).
According to the defence sources in the battlefront, the body was found after an unsuccessful and half-hearted attempt by the LTTE cadres to evacuate their leader's son early this morning.
Charles Anthony was known to be the head of Information and Technology department of the LTTE. It is said that the LTTE leader was compelled to recruit his son to the outfit to avoid criticism over his hypocrisy. The LTTE leader was often criticised for sending thousands of child soldiers to war while giving a luxurious life and best of education to his own children. Charles Anthony was given a very senior position in the outfit after establishing a special non-fighting unit for him.
According to latest battlefield reports received, Army elites are now continuing the final mop-up operations at the last 100m x100m LTTE foothold, North of Vellamullivaikkal.
Saul, Bhairav and others,
Even with this kind of money, bogus voting, arm twisting - the margins are pathetically low. Where are the leads of 200000 or 300000 like last time? Its all only 3000, 5000, 20000 etc. The highest victory was with a margin of 145000.
So, there was a effect - but not big enough to win the constituencies.
Anyway, this was a piece of info for all the others. Please do not think the TN tamils are not with the brothers of Ealam.
Else, the public would not have taken the Military trucks in coimbatore. Remember only 40 to 50 cadres of Periyar kazhakam were there.
CA maranam.
Nadesan maranam.
Pulidevan maranam
Ramesh maranam
Innum ethanai perai kaavu kodukanum intha veri piditha theru nayee pasiku
Saul,
I agree with you 100%. Thats what every one was expecting from Vaiko. But please read my previous post also. There are lot of small facts which i have not discussed in my previous posts.
but how much ever you are popular / stronger, when you are cornered by number of enemies - by sheer numbers(money power) you cant do anything. Congress was pouring money and DMK was spending money for congress in virudhunagar to get Vaiko defeated. Finally when they knew, all these are not enough, they brought 23000 new votes from thin air on the day of counting.
Now they are claiming that that was a arithmatical error on the day of polling. What a joke???
Oh my god... is it true???
or its only a propaganda?
May their souls rest in peace.
Let them shower flowers on the Tamil Ealam
CA, agree at what you say.
Re: Nadesan, Pulidevan, Ramesh
Of three, Nadesan is very familiar to all of us, yes, Pulidevan is also known to many. From the way of how Nadesan conducted his public meetings and interviews, he sounds like very decent man.
We lost so many of our good men. Anyways, I hope the story of Nadesan,Pulidevan and Ramesh, is false.
//One of my friend in chennai told that CITY CENTER a sprawling shopping mall was closed abruptedly at 8 pm after news of Prabha death came in//
Veeran,
LOL you continue to have lot of high hopes,isnt it.Citi center issue has nothing to do with VP and an issue between the nearby Kuppam and Citicenter security.But ofcourse with news channels reporting a possible end,there is hightened police presence across the state and with elections over now,expect them to act tough.
Vivek bro,
I never wanted to proove a point,what do I get to gain by doing so.I was trying to present what the actual situation here is,but was booed away as it didnt match with the view's of majority people here.
I dont agree with you on the assesment that money power won.Nothing stops the people from taking the money and voting for the party they want,as tn thamiz bro has done.Just because you give money doesnt mean people will vote for you - Do you mean to say that the lakhs and lakh's of CD's distributed couldnt make an impact as money did.If you are correct,then that itself shows what TN people think about Srilankan issue -
Saying that money won is INSULT to the crore's of Tamil's who just cast their vote.
I said it before I say it now,Srilankan issue was NOT a electoral agenda at all.
Added to that,as I said time and again,DMDK played the spoiler.
Today's Dinamalar report says,in 25 constituencies,Vijayakanth's party polled more than the winning margin.Ofcourse there is no guarantee it would have all gone to one party if he didnt contest,but its a spoiler.Similaraly Kongu Munnetra Peravai led to the Congress downfall in Pollachi \ Coimbatore \ Erode \ Thiruppur.
PMK was THAUGHT a lesson they will never ever forget.Vaiko was done in by a split in his caste votes.But all this is immaterial now as the results are out and we cant change it now.
Also,Congress on its own has 206 seats.Take out 8 from TN,still its 198.Do you think they would have needed seats from TN to form Government?
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=3274
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=3272
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090518_04
Big news!! But not the biggest which is yet to come!!
Jeez,
Slowly news of death's trickling in.It's horrible.
Maybe they fought for a cause,which was correct or not depended on your viewpoint,but life is a life.
RIP if this news is true
Bhairav,
ullagam ellam ondru koodi solliyum intha veri piditha theru naaye sinhalan kathara kathara namma kulandai kutti pengal ellam kaavu vaanguranga
avannungal oru periya alivai santhipangal endru sabatham pannuguren
A new era where sensible Tamils and Sinhalese, Muslims can live freely and in peace has begun!!
Within few hours govt. shall release the best news in 30 years!!
Vivek,
Good that you are close with MDMK chief's circles.
Yesterday,I received info from my media friend who went to meet MDMK chief,that he was in a inconsolable state and it was not due to his election loss.
That says a lot.I posted it immediately here and ofcourse,it remained here as unconfirmed news.
You can check with your circles
These are just consolation prices of the victory. What we need is the Jackpot.......
Hi Navindran bro,
So sad that LTTP leaders will not be around to witness 150LKR/USD exchange rate!
BTW,what's the exchange rate now? And your heart rate?
CA, God is watching! You will see how these war criminals - MR,SF,GR- meet their ends within one year.
vivek...
ur prediction was never wrong...it was based on democratic election...
when DMK and cogress bribe even the police guarding the booth n commission election was bias...
u saw the video how they distribute money envelope in the booth itself...
..how they entered inside polling booth in certain area and forcing them to vote for DMK..
this kind of activity was goin on for past weeks, even with video proof election commission did not take any action...the money distribution was reported in major newspapers but no action taken..
more suprising in the vaiko election..number of votes differ as u mentioned..
last 2 hours huge increase of votes...just like the same technique used in the previous bielection
what kind of election is this!!!
http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/590
A humanitarian catastrophe seems to be unfolding even as the “end” of the conventional war phase seems to be in sight.
Conventional war over. Unconventional like chemmical , nuke bomb are the next option for pasanga on sinhalans
Dear Indian,
I didnot check it. he was at Apollo hospital Madurai yesterday to meet one of the person who has self immolated himself. But very honestly speaking i am trying to get hold of my Bro -in law to verify the same for the last one hour and i am not able to get in touch with him.
OMG, Charles Anthony you are here!!! Aandwaney is this a reincarnation? Like a Rajini Kanth movie!!
"CA, God is watching! You will see how these war criminals - MR,SF,GR- meet their ends within one year."
And praba, CA, poddu are saints and probably waiting in front of the pearly gates.
Poda madayn.....
Dear indian,
Last election I have predicted the victory for UPA and even the fortfolios for the ministers and PM. I have told that Manmohan would be the PM. Its because i had the gut feel.
If you want , you can check with Palaniappan - son of Mr.P.Chidambaram's brother -who is a businessman. You can find his phone nos in the chennai directory. He is C& F agent for one of the leading paint company in India. you can find my name and address also by using this link. But dont think i am a big shot. I am a common man.
But even I did not expect that DMK can tweak the results this far.
MGK,
You are right. the way it was done its shame to Indian elections itself. Like I said, The Tamils had used their brains and done every thing.
vivek...
rural area ppl are not much exposed to the current situation on eelam...
they just take the money and scared to vote to another party... They assume ppl will know if they vote otherwise while they take the money...
[Faggot Gaan
Fkcu Colombo burn for long time]
I'd like to see you do that, specially since you are dead and your body is rotting!!!
I agree with you MGK, but gone is gone.
Isn't it great to see Peelamists talk of democratic elections!!!!
At last tigers are discussing the virtues of being vegetarians!!!
LMAO
Indian,
He could not confirm it. He is saying, Vaiko is not talking about this even to his son. i am not sure about this.
Soon some more cropses will be in display for Badri's super intelligent close scrutiny.
Badri must be very happy. He just loves that kind of work!
UPDATE...
http://www.puthinam.com/full.php?2b1VoUe0dIcYe0ecAA4o3b4g6DV4d3f1e3cc2AmS3d434OO3a030Mt3e
SHIT LANKA IS TRICKING THE WORLD BY SAYING "The spokesman said the civilians who had been trapped in the war zone - 63,000 in all - have fled to safety during the past 72 hours."
THOUSANDS ARE STILL THERE AND ARE BEING ATTACKED RITE NOW...
http://www.puthinam.com/full.php?2b1VoUe0dIcYe0ecAA4o3b4g6DV4d3f1e3cc2AmS3d434OO3a030Mt3e
Adaiu Thamilangal, Priya Padipaligal Enru Solura Nangal Oru Pariya Allivu Aiuthum Ontru Saiyhtu Intha Illagaiya illamal panna vantum.
Singlavankal kanka poi solurnagal, avan sethan evan sethan entur. Thamilan yar entru evangalku kata vantuem.
Pudhinam:
படு மோசமான காயங்களுக்கு உள்ளாகி, சிகிச்சையளிக்க எந்த வழியுமற்ற நிலையில் கதறும் பொதுமக்கள் மக்கள் - அங்கே இருக்கும் போராளிகளிடம் தம்மை சுட்டுக்கொன்றுவிடுமாறு மன்றாடுகின்றனர்.
அதேபோல - காயமடைந்து, சிகிச்சைக்கு வழியற்றுக் கிடக்கும் போராளிகள் தமக்கு 'சையனைட்' வில்லைகளைத் தந்துவிடுமாறு கதறுகின்றனர்.
பதுங்கு குழிகளுக்குள் இருந்தபோதே கொல்லப்பட்டுவிட்ட மக்களின் உடலங்களுக்கு மேலேயே, உயிரோடு எஞ்சியிருக்கும் மக்கள் பாதுகாப்புக்காய் பதுங்க வேண்டிய அவலம் நிலவுகின்றது.
தமிழின அழிப்பு கொலைக் களத்தின் இறுதிக் கட்டம்: கனரக பீரங்கிகளின் தாக்குதலோடு தொடங்கிவிட்டது சிங்களப் படை! காயமடைந்து வீழ்ந்தோரின் மரண ஓலத்தில் முள்ளிவாய்க்கால்!!
[திங்கட்கிழமை, 18 மே 2009, 08:34 மு.ப ஈழம்] [புதினம் நிருபர்]
கடந்த இரண்டரை வருடங்களாக - உலகப் பெரும் சக்திகள் சிலவற்றின் துணையுடன் - சிறிலங்கா நடத்திவரும் தமிழின அழிப்பு போர் அதன் இறுதிக் கட்டத்தை இன்று திங்கட்கிழமை காலை அடைந்திருப்பதாக - தமிழீழ விடுதலைப் புலிகளின் கட்டுப்பாட்டில் இன்னமும் மிஞ்சியிருக்கும் முள்ளிவாய்க்கால் கிராமத்தில் இருந்து 'புதினம்' செய்தியாளர் செய்மதி தொலைபேசி மூலம் சற்று முன்னர் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்.
இதுவே தான் மேற்கொள்ளும் இறுதி தொலைபேசி அழைப்பாக இருக்கக்கூடும் எனவும், இனி என்ன நடக்குமோ தெரியாது எனவும் குறிப்பிட்டுவிட்டு, தனது கடைசிச் செய்திக் குறிப்பு இது எனக் குறிப்பிட்ட 'புதினம்' செய்தியாளர் சொன்னவை அவரது வார்த்தைகளிலேயே:
பீரங்கிக் குண்டுகள் நாலாபுறங்களிலும் இருந்து வந்து எங்கள் மீது வீழ்ந்து வெடிக்கின்றன.
கனரக மற்றும் சிறுரக துப்பாக்கி சன்னங்கள் எல்லாப் பக்கத்தில் இருந்தும் சீறி வருகின்றன.
தாக்குதல் நிகழும் இந்த பகுதிக்குள் இன்னமும் பல்லாயிரக்கணக்கான மக்கள் இருக்கின்றனர்.
காயப்பட்டு வீழ்ந்து தூக்கி எடுக்க யாருமற்றுக் கிடப்போரின் மக்களின் மரண ஓலங்களே எங்கும் கேட்கின்றன.
விடுதலைப் புலிகளின் பக்கத்தில் இருந்து குறிப்பிட்டுச் சொல்லுமளவுக்கு எதிர்த் தாக்குதல்கள் ஏதுமற்ற நிலையிலும் - சிறிலங்கா படையினர் கண்மூடித்தனமான தாக்குதல்களை நான்கு பக்கங்களாலும், சகலவிதமான நாசகார ஆயுதங்களைப் பாவித்தும் மேற்கொண்டவாறு மக்களைக் கொன்று குவித்து வருகின்றனர்.
கடந்த நான்கு நாட்களில் மட்டும் 4 ஆயிரத்துக்கும் அதிகமான மக்கள் கொல்லப்பட்டுவிட்டார்கள்.
கொல்லப்பட்டு வீழ்ந்த மக்கள் எல்லோரினது உடலங்களும் நாலா புறமும் சிதறிக்கிடக்கின்றன.
திரும்பிய பக்கம் எல்லாம் பிணக்குவியல்களாகவே இருக்கின்றன. கொல்லப்பட்டோரது உடலங்கள் கடந்த நான்கு நாட்களுக்கு மேலாக அகற்றப்படாத காரணத்தினால் அந்த பகுதி எங்கும் பெரும் துர்நாற்றம் வீசுகின்றது.
இன்றைய இந்த மூர்க்கத்தனமான தாக்குதலுடன் இங்குள்ள மக்கள் அனைவருமே சிறிலங்கா படையினருக்கு இரையாகிவிடுவர்.
படுகாயமடைந்தவர்கள் இந்தப் பகுதி எங்கும் விழுந்து கிடந்து அலறுகின்றனர்.
படு மோசமான காயங்களுக்கு உள்ளாகி, சிகிச்சையளிக்க எந்த வழியுமற்ற நிலையில் கதறும் பொதுமக்கள் மக்கள் - அங்கே இருக்கும் போராளிகளிடம் தம்மை சுட்டுக்கொன்றுவிடுமாறு மன்றாடுகின்றனர்.
அதேபோல - காயமடைந்து, சிகிச்சைக்கு வழியற்றுக் கிடக்கும் போராளிகள் தமக்கு 'சையனைட்' வில்லைகளைத் தந்துவிடுமாறு கதறுகின்றனர்.
பதுங்கு குழிகளுக்குள் இருந்தபோதே கொல்லப்பட்டுவிட்ட மக்களின் உடலங்களுக்கு மேலேயே, உயிரோடு எஞ்சியிருக்கும் மக்கள் பாதுகாப்புக்காய் பதுங்க வேண்டிய அவலம் நிலவுகின்றது.
இவ்வாறு கூறிய எமது செய்தியாளர், கடைசியாக - "இப்பேர்ப்பட்ட ஒரு மாபெரும் மனிதப் பேரவலம் கண்முன்னால் நிகழ்ந்துகொண்டிருக்கும் போது, ஆயுதப் போராட்டத்தையே விட்டுவிடுகின்றோம் என விடுதலைப் புலிகள் சொல்லிவிட்ட பின்பு - யாராவது வந்து எம்மை காப்பாற்ற மாட்டார்களா என மக்கள் இங்கு ஏங்கித் தவிக்கும் போது - மனித உயிர்களைக் காப்பதற்காகவேனும் இந்த உலகம் ஏன் எதனையும் செய்யாதிருக்கின்றது?" என்று தழுதழுத்த குரலில் கேள்வி எழுப்பினார்.
2003 ஆம் ஆண்டில் இருந்து 'புதினம்' நிறுவனத்தின் வன்னிச் செய்தியாளராய்ப் பணிபுரிந்து - உண்மையான செய்திகள் மட்டுமே வெளிவர உழைத்து - 'புதினம்' நிறுவனத்தின் இரத்தமும், சதையுமாக இயங்கிய அந்த செய்தியாளர், கடைசியாக - "என்னுடன் உங்களுக்கு இருக்கும் தொடர்பு இதுதான் கடைசியாகவும் இருக்கலாம் என்றே நினைக்கின்றேன்" என்று கூறினார்.
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so sad!
CharlesAnthony, welcome to hell.
"Unconventional like chemmical , nuke bomb are the next option for pasanga on sinhalans"
You realize that if you drop a WMD on Sri Lanka, there will be many Tamils who will also get killed right?
Vivek,
"in BTW, peter has not posted any comments in the last one or two discussions."
Look at Puthu Pete's civilized comments here- quite a different Pete than the Sivaram-wannabe who types here.
"Why I was suggestiong the indonesian model was - at that particular point of time it was more applicable to Srilanka - A good federal structure."
As I recall, federal Indonesia has multitudes of problems with East Timor seceding and another separatist movement in Aceh. Federalism hasn't done much for Indonesia and I see no reason why we should adopt it.
"But do you really think both the races can co-exist in SL at this point of time?"
You don't seem to know very much about SL except what you read on Eelamoid sites like this one. If you had ever been there, you would see that they're already coexisting.
"When the SLA wins, isn't it the responsibility lies with the Leaders to be magnanimous and keep the celebrations down."
During the ceasefire the Eelamoids were pretty loud with their "Pongu Thamil" crap. Now it's our turn.
படுகாயமடைந்த இந்த 25 ஆயிரம் பேரையும் இரட்டைவாய்க்கால் அல்லது வட்டுவாகல் பகுதி ஊடாக வெளியே கொண்டுவருவதற்கு அனைத்துலகப் பொறுப்பாளர் செ.பத்மநாதன் மூலமாக அனைத்துலக செஞ்சிலுவைச் சங்கத்திடம் நாம் கோரிக்கை முன்வைத்தோம்.
ஜெனீவாவில் உள்ள அனைத்துலக செஞ்சிலுவைச் சங்கத்திடம் கேட்டுக்கொண்டோம். நாம் அவர்களை அனுப்பிவைக்கின்றோம் நீங்கள் பொறுப்பு எடுங்கள் எனக் கேட்டோம். இருந்தபோதிலும் அதற்கு உரிய பதில் கிடைக்கவில்லை எனவும் சூசை தெரிவித்துள்ளார்.
இந்நிலையில் அந்த 25 ஆயிரம் மக்களும் மருத்துவ சிகிச்சைகள் இல்லாமல் மரணமடைந்திருக்கின்றனர் எனவும் மிகவும் உணர்ச்சி வசப்பட்ட நிலையில் சூசை தெரிவித்தார்.
[http://www.puthinam.com/full.php?2b1VoUe0dIcYe0ecAA4o3b4g6DV4d3f1e3cc2AmS3d434OO3a030Mt3e]
puthinam????
sorry, We don't believe bullzhit web sites like tamilnut, puthinam, nitharsanam, tamuleguardian, canadiantamil etc: etc:
Peedom farter, ashok kumar,
Demalen pacha keliya kiyala umbalata peelama hambawenne nae ban!! gihilla hamaniyalla!!
:-)))
gaththara ballo, thope nayakaya iwarai!!
HOOOOOOIYAAAAAAA!!!!
//Vivek said
Indian,He could not confirm it. He is saying, Vaiko is not talking about this even to his son. i am not sure about this//
He is doing so Rightfully as requested.That friend quoted "Its all over.VP will not be found as no identifiable remains will be available to GoSL".One side will believe he escaped.But The end has been similar to Netaji's - and there ends the comparison,not a penny more nor less.
Eelamoids,
Don't worry, it's all GOSL propaganda. As we speak operation red bird in full force and the SL army is pulling back all the way to Anuradhapura(m).
What the FUCK is the World doing ?
I COULD not bear this anymore
Well lets say you find a Senior LTTE leaders body and its not his. What do you do if they are overseas. I am suprised, misson accomplished according to your president, yet you seem to be a defeated people trying your level best to stake a victory here.
I mean at the end of the day why does Sri Lanka need attack helicopters from Russia. Its a joke that you think the war is over. Whats likely is assurance given to the LTTE from certain quaters to pressurise Sri Lanka. Example will be the IMF loan. Lets see in a few weeks times whether the eupohria will last.
I mean suddenly they will realise that only in eelam blogs will there be a freedom of speech. There is no critism of the government allowed being a phone call away from being reported. The LTTE is not desperate. Desperation is when a string of bombs go off in colombo.
Yes mate. We are in cuckoo's land. Tigers not surrendering but laying down arms inside .04Sq km area surrounded by 3 divisions. What a master stroke KP. They say you are one with brains. Shame you were not allowed to use it before this situation.
Navindran,
Don't worry about about IMF loan. Things are well under control. "Appropriate time" for the loan (as world powers put it) is in a couple of months when things are 'settled down'
It's shameful to see you guys still banking on the IC after all these.
Quote from another blog:
Don?t Cry for us Sri Lanka
1956
Sinhala language took the pole position
Subjugating the rich Tamil language,
Sinhala nationalist leader assassinated by
Saffron robe wearing Buddhist monk
Don?t? cry for us Sri Lanka
And you made Chelvanayagam and Co go on peaceful protests. You ridiculed them and you failed to meet our demands then?
1972
In the name of standardisation
Intelligent Tamils deprived of
Income generating careers
Inclining Tamil youth towards militancy
Don?t? cry for us Sri Lanka
And You help form TULF which sawed Separation in the Tamil minds. You crushed them violently and you failed to meet our demands then..
1958, 1977, 1983
Hindu priests was burned alive
Houses and businesses were robed
Hounded Tamils chased away to Tamil
Homeland in Buses, Trains and Ships
Don?t? cry for us Sri Lanka
You then inadvertently fostered Tamil Militancy. Which left over 100,000 dead and Millions $ loss and counting. And you created the Tamil Diaspora.
2009
Death and destruction to the every Tamil
Displacement and detention for the survivors
Diplomatic efforts rebuffed
Driving Diaspora Tamil youth to demonstrations
Don?t? cry for us Sri Lanka
You might look to have crushed the Tamil Militancy and you might now have to ?occupy? the Tamil lands forever with a brutal military power.
One day in future
Patriotic Leaders in war crime tribunals
Pariah state in the eyes of the world
Problems galore on economic and social fronts
Prospering neighbour in Tamil Eelam
Don?t? cry for us Sri Lanka
You now have to deal with the Tamil Diaspora which will look to avenge all the losses and destructions their forerunners suffered.
We are not done yet.
Three more leaders of the Peelamistani faggot brigade achieve Peelam!!
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090518_07
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=3278
Illango, Sundaram and Kapil amman dumb sons of Peelam!! Your fight for gay rights in SL will forever be remembered by Refugee janitors world over!!
Ho Ho,
Ashokkumar very funny. Subtle threats of toilet cleaners make us very scared. We know toilet cleaners are more powerful than sun goat, 'cos if you guys go on strike, western capitals such as London, Toronto, & Oslo will be stinking like hell!!!!
[The Map of Srilanka will not remain the same for long time]
more 'WAIT AND SEE!!(TM)' from stateless janitor morons!!
:-DD
Charles Anthony, Pulidevan, Nadesan, Ramesh, Kapil Amman, Illangowan and Sundaram attained Peelam so far according to confirmed military reports today morning!!
Many other 'enlightenments'/'ascents to Peelam' yet to be confirmed!!
Special Force reports that only upper body of VP is there (Lower half is missing). Apparently Madhivadini is thanking her lucky stars, for had the lower part was to be revealed, it would have become clear that there was no way he could father childern!
Guardian:
"If the Tigers' leadership is removed or killed in a government assault, it's easy to imagine one of the newly energised generation stepping in to fill the void," said Robert Templer, of the International Crisis Group thinktank.
"The dream of an independent Tamil homeland in Sri Lanka resonates powerfully across the diaspora and will certainly live on even after the defeat of the LTTE as a conventional military force. The deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Tamil civilians – while their family members watch from afar – is a recipe for another, possibly more explosive, generation of terrorism."
Peelam,
Sasara kelawara apaayen dukata path wewa!!
Saadu!!
Veeran,
Need some stones to throw at an embassy?
My sources indicate that Soosaiis alive & well and soon to be re-united with his family.
What do you think diaspora?
விடுதலைப் புலிகளுடன் தொடர்பாம்: சிறிலங்கா இராணுவ கேணலின் மனைவியும் கைது
[திங்கட்கிழமை, 18 மே 2009, 11:30 மு.ப ஈழம்] [கொழும்பு நிருபர்]
தமிழீழ விடுதலைப் புலிகளுடன் தொடர்புகளை வைத்திருந்தார் என்ற குற்றச்சாட்டில் கடந்த வாரம் கைது செய்யப்பட்ட சிறிலங்கா இராணுவ கேணலின் மனைவியும் தற்போது கைது செய்யப்பட்டிருப்பதாக கொழும்புத் தகவல்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றன.
தடுப்புக்காவலில் வைக்கப்பட்டு விசாரணைக்கு உள்ளாக்கப்பட்டுள்ள இராணுவ அதிகாரி தெரிவித்த சில தகவல்களையடுத்தே அவரது மனைவியும் இப்போது கைது செய்யப்பட்டிருக்கின்றார் என காவல்துறை வட்டாரங்கள் தெரிவித்தன.
ஜூன் மாதத்தில் தியத்தலாவ இராணுவ முகாமில் நடைபெறவிருக்கும் பயிற்சி பெற்ற படையினர் வெளியேறும் நிகழ்வுக்கு விடுதலைப் புலிகளின் தற்கொலைப் போராளிகள் இருவரை அழைத்துச் செல்வதற்கு குறிப்பிட்ட இராணுவ கேணல் திட்டமிட்டிருந்ததாக விசாரணைகளை மேற்கொள்ளும் காவல்துறையினர் தெரிவித்தனர்
The tamules who will be sent here from the west after the cancellation of refugee visas will be directly appointed as sanitation workers of the welfare villages.
[cheap, ugly, sticky, dumb Sinhala street whores and janitors in Colombo will soon be deported to hague to dance to the music of world]
Using my words, eh Peelamist?? Why?? Can't form proper sentences using real words??
And why the heck are we getting deported from our country?? Your comment is the pinnacle of retarded-ness in Peelam Tamules!!
And to be precise, most of the janitors, even here in SL are Tamils! Most of the street whores are Tamil as well, go to Wellawaththa, Kotahena and see for yourself!! That is fact!!
It's getting boring as no "Mind you Language" episodes from Freedom Fighter.
Will see you diaspora coolies tomorrow, when operation red bird recaptures all the lost land and the exchange rate hits 150!
And to my patriot brothers, as I said before, let's be humble and magnanimous in victory and make sure our Tamil sisters and brothers live among us as one!
(Yet it shouldn't prevent us from having fun with these diaspora coolies though!)
Bye for today!
[http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=3280]
The report says all tiger communications have come to a standstill!!
Refreshing!!!!!
RATHNADEEPA JANMABHOOMI
LANKADEEPA WIJAYABHOOMI
MAE APE UDAARAWOOO
MATHROOBHOOMIYAY!!
AADI SINHALAE...
WEERAMEEMUTHUN LEYIN
SAARAWOO UDAARAWOOO
MAATHROOBHOOMIYAY.....
Velupillai Prabhakaran, is alive and surrounded by government troops....LOL BBC Lies
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8054963.stm
LOL1
Singala Idiots can't even a for them self, why copy my name ? did get hurt arguing with me ? why are you hiding you self behind my name.
Dead bodies of CA and Nadesan !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFC-Azihhc
Thanx for the link Roy!
All the Tiger Martyrs be allowed atleast a decent Burial by Sla.
Will GOSL atleast allow this ?
MAGE DESHAYA
MAGE JAATHIYA
MAGE AAGAMA
MATA LABAADUN THYAGAYAY...
CHANDA MAARUTHAYE NOSELVENA CHINTHANAYA NIWAHAL!!!!
HI puli girls..
Time to shut down this blog
coz the your VP has gone forever..
HO HO hoooooooo
he he heh hoooooooooo
Yet another big fat lie buy sri lanka defence force.
they are try very hard convince us.
FF...is that nadesan?
m.q.k said...
[FF...is that nadesan?]
No to me , perhaps others can confirm.
hey peelamists.... turn on the news....Praba and the henchmen have achieved ealam...... Please get ready those petrol cans and do the self imolation to join him in Peelam..(and that will also rid the world of soo many dim wits)
ps- m.g.k see, all the bold capital letter rants couldnt save your boss... :)
VP is still live
request to all sinhala people, you can be happy and celebrate. now the ltte are finished please can you stop annoying the tamil people including this blog. There is a limit and please don't take the piss.
modaya guy... first get some comprehension lesson... u dont even know the meaning of words u read...hahha.. :)
It is confirmed that VP is said. Australian SBS news just confirmed that VP is dead.
Yes, I do agree with Info. All Tamils are our brothers & sisters. We all live in Sri Lanka. It is our every race's responsibility to develop North & East for our tamil brothers & sisters to make a secure place to live.
oh my dear m.g.k.... did u forget the bold..
btw...no country ..no sun god..and soon no visa to clean toilet...oh my god.... the super intelligent die-asspora have done it again...
My dear Peter, Navindran, FF, m.g.k., Badri & other peelam supporters.
War is finifshed. We all get together and work to develop North & South.
We all should stop verbal war in this blog hereafter.
Hi Thoughtful Guy
Please please please stop those comments now
Her is video shows that tamil hindu priest being forced join in the celiberation in colombo.
You see this at the end of the video
Colombo Celiberation Life under the new Sigala Racist had began again.
modaya guy....u have done it again with ur stupidity.... get some lesson... :))
Here we go. more celiberation in BBC.
Slavery Begins
Ok...Lalith..let me stop...lets see what the response is...
Lalith & Info.. what you say is true, but honestly do you think that Diaspora would think like that. Definitly Tamils & Sinhalese living in this country will try their best to work for better future, but people who already have better life’s abroad will definitely try to bring the flame again.
We should not let Tamils living in Sri Lanka feel that their treated differently than Sinhalese. That’s what our mistake was before.
BUT FOR THOSE TAMIL DAISPORA I WOULD NOT HOLD BACK. THEY DISERVERED TO BE HUMILIATED.
I am deeply humbled by the prospect of my country free of war!! Since I was 10 years old, parts of my own country have been out of bounds for me. I have traversed the world but not my own little island! For 30 years I have explained my country of war! Now we have a precipitous path towards peace. I hope we accept this with utmost humility. After all it is us who died on both sides!
To all MF 'n die ass pora s....
U sent the money to kill our people.
it destroyed more than 25 years of our life.
it destroy our great hero's.
it destroy our brothers n sister.
VP gone. bye bye...
U people also need to suffer...
Don't think to come back again.
Die as a refugee...
4SHIT...
Hundred of times shit lanka has said VP is gone... :)
Prove it with photo or fuck off..
That didnt look like Nadesan to me at all. Charles Anthony looks similar. But then I can't be sure because when people are dead they may look different. If it did come down to this, then the ending was very poorly planned - or perhaps this was the plan.
So many opportunities were there to leave, but Prabhakaran never chose to leave. Every single time he told his people he would stand next to them till the very end and would not leave them. We have all been hearing it from various sources every week for the last few months. For whatever reason, our minds didn't want to take those statements as direct statements, despite them being made over and over again.
Once the major leaders started dying in the battlefield, it became clear to outsiders (those who don't want to ignore whats actually being seen) that this wasn't an ordinary battle. Everything pointed to a final stand where all the leadership was going to fight till the end. Its something that no one wanted to accept, but I'm sure everyone had that nagging doubt in the back of their mind. There was absolutely no reason to let senior leaders die in these battles if the LTTE planned to escape.
If it is true, I think strategically it is a huge mistake, as they could have entered guerrilla warfare and lasted for years. But then again these leaders are not 20 years old anymore. They are all getting old and they would have died in 15 or 20 years by old age anyway. They don't have another 30 or 40 years to fight. So many Tamil youths have died over the last 30 years in this war. It's possible that the LTTE leaders decided the usefulness of the armed struggle was nearing an end, and the benefits did not outweigh the losses to the Tamil people.
Another point is that the LTTE is a block to the intervention of the international community. The tactics of the LTTE have now made it a drag on fulfilling the aspirations of the Tamil people. It has become clear that the international community will never accept the LTTE as the ruler of an independent Tamil Eelam.
If they do have the dead bodies of Prabhakaran, Soosai and Pothu Amman, its obvious they are going to make up stories as to how they died to make them look like cowards. They already are saying Prabhakaran was trying to flee in an ambulence. That story makes no sense at all. Exactly how would you flee in an ambulance surrounded by 30,000 soldiers. And why would everyone else die together in a group, but three of them try to drive out in an ambulance.
Its just a cheap attempt to make Prabhakaran look bad to the diaspora. But the reality is he proved he was fearless. He knew they were completely outnumbered, so he knew fromKilinochi itself that he was going to die. He could have left by plane or boat anytime over the six months, but he told everyone he would stand with his people till the very end.
The bad news is there will be no witnesses to the 25,000 dead LTTE family members. All photographers are either in government zone, or dead with the families. The Sri Lankan army will clean up the beach and say nothing happened. The world will never know. Only KP will know what transpired in the last hours as he was in contact over satellite phone.
Even if there is no body of Prabhakaran (due to having been burnt), I expect the Sri Lankan army will half burn some body and say its him. They will pretend they did DNA tests on it and confirmed it. This will just be for propaganda to say they got his body.
Editor: "Badrinath" dont be a moron, did u see the UAV pictures of the NFZ provided by the SLA. Just imaging what technology will Americans and EU people have. They will be closely watching everything from above. There is no way of hiding 25000 peopes bodies from them.
The truth is there may be few hundred civilans deaths sad it may be thats the truth.
Everyone is in shallow bunkers, you cant see them from UAV
Bandri Bro,
Leader will stay with his people till the last breath! My foot. You see what happened was the people left him.
Where was the suicide antics with cyanide? Is it only for ordinary tamils?
Now you are also trying to distance your self from the LTTE. What a shame.
Badri....you are a real psycho..... always thinking that the world is out to get you(and ur fellow tamils)....... why do u have such an inferiority complex?
Couldnt the LTTE, in its last few days have realized what a waste of time and money and human lives it was, running after a dream that was never going to come true..what if they just gave up, and ..and thats it..no conspiracy theory, no hidden agenda, no secret plan....
Where is my friend Bahirav,
Has he committed suicide? Gone looking for nuclear bomb to bomb Sri Lanka?
The truth is Tamils are being rejected worldwide. In India as well. Accept that. Reason, superiority complex. Get real. Get a job. Get a life.
EU nations calls for Sri Lanka war crimes probe
"Those accountable must be brought to justice"
mottapala
go back to defence shit wire
racist lanka failed state
huk huk
Hague has room for racist lanka war criminals
"credible" evidence collected
EU nations calls for Sri Lanka war crimes probe
"Those accountable must be brought to justice"
LTTE made series of blunders since the start of Mannar battle 2 years ago, of them, one that they opted to stay in the final remaining territory was a grave mistake, at least, they should have made the decision to escape into jungles 2 months back.
What about the 65,000+ Tamils who got killed and injured in this final battle?
Badri, you should start deleting the Sinhala coolies' posts here. Free of Sinhala coolies, at least, on this blog, will give a peaceful environment where Tamils can share about the future plans.
take the news of VP's death with a grain of salt:
This is from defence.lk
One of the government sources claims this ambulance garbage, another says this:
Meanwhile, defence sources on the battlefront said all top LTTE leaders were believed to be killed during their abortive attempt to flee from advancing troops this morning (May 18). According to the sources, troops have found a burnt body suspected to be of LTTE chief V. Prabhakaran. However, the sources said that positive identification is yet to be made.
I highly doubt VPs death. we knew Pulithevan was in the NFZ a month back but not nadesan.
Tamilnet claims 1000 injured people and civil members of the ltte were present in the no fire zone, along with civilians.
Swiss Murasam:
விடுதலை புலிகள் இயக்கத்தின் தலைவர் வேலுப்பிள்ளை பிரபாகரன் பாதுகாப்பு படையினர் மேற்கொண்ட இறுதிக்கட்ட போரில் உயிரிழந்துள்ளதாக இராணுவப் பேச்சாளர் பிறிகேடியர் உதய நாணயக்கார தெரிவித்தார்.
மோதல் இடம்பெற்ற பகுதிகளில் இன்று காலை பாதுகாப்பு படையினர் மேற்கொண்ட தேடுதலில் 250 இற்கும் அதிகமான விடுதலைப் புலி உறுப்பினர்களின் சடலங்கள் மீட்கப்பட்டுள்ளதாகவும் இராணுவப் பேச்சாளர் தெரிவித்தார்.
எனினும் இது இலங்கை அரசின் பொய் பிரசாரம் என தெரியவந்துள்ளது.
sinhala don't have one story
still no word from the tigers
ado moda badri! your feeding ur fellows with punnaku while u already aware about the reality...Do u think GOSL is foolish enough to show the world someone else's body and announce prhaba is dead? didnt you ever think about the consequences of doing so....try to think for days or month and understand this
I think right now its not in Tigers best interest to deny sla reports, if the tiger leaders are in hiding. this will prompt the sla do a search operation.
I find it hard to believe that this ending was not planned from the beginning. Strategically there were so many things they could have done that they didn't do. It can't be that they just kept making bad choices right to the end.
Prabhakaran might have felt he had become a block to the realization of an independent Tamil Eelam. Western countries were ready to support independence or self rule for many countries such as East Timor, but not Tamil Eelam because Prabhakaran was viewed as a terrorist dictator. In that context, for the independence struggle to move forward, he had to be removed from the scene.
What would be the best galvanizing way for him to leave the helm that would unite all Tamils throughout the world? A final battle to the death, standing with his people and defending them against all odds, that would be remembered for 1,000 years. All of the commanders and cadres fought heroically against immense odds, never showing fear despite fully knowing their death was imminent.
It seems like he knew what was going to happen from the beginning and wanted that. He only had another 15 or 20 years left in his life anyway. He had already presided over and developed an independent Tamil Eelam for 10 years. There was no going back to the jungles for guerrilla warfare at this stage. He had also been betrayed by a number of his close associates, some we may never even know about. Assassinations were taking place deep inside LTTE territory over the last few years with the help of insiders. Having been betrayed by some of his close leaders, some just for insignificant money, he may have lost the will to lead these people in life, and instead chose to lead them in death.
Tactically, there is no way anyone would have fought this battle the way it was fought down to the end unless they planned to die for a reason. He exposed the Sinhalese for what they were so that Tamils will know there is no possibility of reconciliation.
Swiss Murasam:
தமிழ் மக்களுக்கு பாதகமான பல தகவல்களை சிங்கள படையினர் பரப்பிவருவதனால் தமிழ் மக்களை வதந்திகளை நம்பாமல் பொறுமை காக்குமாறு கோரிக்கை விடுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.
முள்ளியவாய்க்கால் பகுதியில் சிங்கள படையினரின் தாக்குதலில் தமிழீழ தேசிய தலைவர் உட்பட பல தளபதிகள் கொல்லப்பட்டதாக சிங்கள படையினர் வதந்தியான தகவல்களை தமது ஊடகங்கள் மூலம் பரப்பிவருவதாகவும் தெரிவிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.
If Prabhakaran has died, I don't believe there will be any official announcement by Tamilnet. His body would have been burnt to ash, and they will never have conclusive proof that he died.
But if his son has died, and Nadesan has died, and all of the commanders have died, then we can safely say he has died with them.
Sinhalese will make up different stories to make the leaders look bad. But that does not necessarily mean the leaders are not dead. They may have fought till the death, but Sri Lanka will say they tried to flee by ambulance to discredit their valor.
1. Sigala morons said VP's body was recovered on 16th and claimed that the body flown to some shit place near columbo for DNA verification. Mahintha dashed to sorrilanka and kissed the soil and declared "no terrorist zone"
2. They retracted it and said he escaped to mullaitheevu yesterday after an attack and breakthro' in nadhikatal area. DW won't release this information without approval. Singala modayas go hysterical.
3. DW announces that they got the body again..
I predicted this end about a month ago when pulithevan kept announcing that "thaliavar is in the zone".
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