Friday, March 6, 2009

Sri Lankan Army pushed back to Chalai



Unconfirmed reports state the Sri Lankan army has been pushed out of Palamattalan back to Chalai, across the natural water inlet. As a result of this, there have been plans to avoid the coast and link the 55th division with the 58 division in the north of PTK instead.

77 comments:

Anonymous said...

Unconfirmed reports also state that the LTTE's much waited FINAL® super duper counter strike was beaten left, right and centre by the genocidal Sinhalam army.

Love Pottu

Nesan said...

TO "Anonymous said...

Unconfirmed reports also state that the LTTE's much waited FINAL® super duper counter strike was beaten left, right and centre by the genocidal Sinhalam army."

CONFIRMED reports by the state intelligence agencies state that ltte has been wiped out, not to mention the Tamils, and just few cadres are roaming around in about 2 metre squared area. Wait for further details...

Navindran said...

Whats confirmed by LBO is that beer sales are down in Sri Lanka. Its because most Sri Lankans are being drunk by thier own vomit.

Tea prices have collapsed and retrenchments are sky rocketing. Now that they have gone to the IMF, firstly they have to slice off spending. Parasites like Karuna and Pilliyan will get lesser money. As desperate as the Politicians are trying to finish the war, they do not realise that they are only following the LTTE's timetable.

With the IMF bailout and rupee collapse, we will see the soldiers going to mutiny like in Bangladesh. All the way while I posted in defencewire, they were taking it as though I was joking. Now they are the joke.

Such will the collapse, such will be munity that it will be they who hand eelam its independence on a platter. As I said before with a BJP government, the independence is as such as the Sri Lankan economic collapse.

Anonymous said...

Troops capture Puthukuduyiruppu
(2009-03-04) Rafik JALALDEEN

Security Forces poised to liberate the Vanni and besieged civilians captured the LTTE’s last stronghold and strategic town Puthukuduyiruppu in Mullaitivu yesterday morning following intense battles that claimed the lives of scores of LTTE cadres.

Task Forces and troops in their last phase of the Vanni battle making steady progress gained another victory by capturing the LTTE’s last bastion Puthukuduyiruppu town.

Military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara said troops of the 53 and 58 divisions stormed from north and south of Puthukuduyiruppu and took total control of the Puthukudiyiruppu junction early morning.

Troops attached to the 58 division advancing from the northern region and the troops of the 53 division entering from the southern end of the A-35 Paranthan-Mullaitivu road joined each other after entering the Puthukuduyiruppu town center and took over the entire Puthukuduyiruppu junction area.

As troops neared the LTTE’s last stronghold, the Tigers offered resistance to advancing troops. A fierce battle raged throughout the day and the LTTE suffered heavy casualties and lost control of the Puthukuduyiruppu town,”Brigadier Nanayakkara told the Daily News.

He said troops were marching forward to the East of Puthukuduyiruppu to liberate the Puthukudiyiruppu East. “Troops captured the entire Puthukuduyiruppu town after a week’s prolonged fighting,” he added.

The 12th Gajaba Regiment (GR) under the command of the 58 division, 1 GR and 4 Vijayabahu Infantry Regiment (VIR) under the command of the 53 division launched intense offensives to capture the Puthukuduyiruppu junction. Scores of LTTE cadres were killed and many wounded in the heavy fighting. The Tigers fled the area facing heavy defeat. The Security Forces are engaged in clearing operations, the Brigadier said.

Bhairav said...

Badri, can you elaborate further?

Anonymous said...

* Breakaway rebel party in Sri Lanka ready to hand over the weapons
Thursday, March 5, 2009, 15:06 GMT, ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.
Mar 05, Batticaloa: The breakaway rebel party, Thamil Makkal Viduthalai Pulikal (TMVP) is preparing to hand over their weapons to the government, its spokesman said.

According to the TMVP, the main ceremony of this process is to be held on next Saturday at their party office in Meenagam, Batticaloa.

The current leader of TMVP, Eastern Chief Minister Sivanesathurai Chandrakanthan alias Pillayan has said that no need to hold the weapons furthermore as the LTTE was almost overwhelmed by the government forces.

Most of the TMVP cadres the have expressed their willingness to join the government forces including the police, Chandrakanthan pointed out.

According to the media spokesman of TMVP they hope to send the other cadres for foreign jobs.

However former leader and the founder of TMVP, parliamentarian Vinayagamoorthy Muralitharan alias Karuna Amman was not invited to the ceremony of handing over the weapons on next Saturday.

Anonymous said...

On Feb. 27, the United Nations indicated that the Sinhala-Tamil civil war will not be a matter for discourse at the world body, effectively giving the go-ahead for the Sri Lankan state to proceed with its war on Tamils without regard for civilian lives.


The humanitarian case before the council was that of immense suffering endured by more than 300, 000 Tamil civilians who have been forcibly displaced and are either being shelled while sheltered in areas administered by the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) or are locked up in detention centres in Sri Lankan military occupied areas.


Presence of civilians in the “conflict area” was articulated by council president, Japan, as the crux of the issue. The solution, as advocated by the UN, is to remove all civilians from the defined area and “keep” them in areas designated by the Sri Lankan military.


Thus, the civilian issue has been reduced to one concerning the “conflict area”. International Community (IC) and its institutions are unanimous in the view that locking up in excess of 300, 000 people, depriving them of their livelihoods is an acceptable means of conflict resolution.


While the Sri Lankan military is dictating the time and location of conflict, a ceasefire that would allow the people of the region to live in just-peace in their historic homeland is seen as a troublesome manoeuvre.


The question now is: What if the “conflict area” is widened? What if an actor other than the Sri Lankan military began defining the time and location of violence?


Indeed, if it is the lives and livelihoods of the Sinhalese people that is threatened by violence, Sri Lanka’s response will be critically different. If economic interests are within the “conflict area”, IC is unlikely to watch with the same glee. India, for example, would not be keen to see “conflict” in the heart of Trincomalee, where an Indian company owns oil storage facilities.


So, what will the IC and its institutions do if Colombo, for instance, becomes the “conflict area”? Will they respond by calling the affected people to displace to detention centres or will they call for a “ceasefire”? We believe that the answer is all too obvious.


If it is a ceasefire that the LTTE wants, most sensible course of action would be to widen the “conflict area” to include as much of the island as possible. In particular, threat of violence in the Western Province, which accounts for a vast share of the island’s economic activity, is the only spectra that is likely to jolt the policy makers, both local and international

Tharu22 said...

Here goes navindran again!!
With his theory of Eelam by default. Keep on dreaming pal, even though we can prevent you from having a homeland, we can't prevent you from dreaming!

Anonymous said...

Badrinath

What is the situation in Iranamadu Tank area?

Have those infiltrated LTTP 1000 cadre captured Iranamdu, or Kokavil or Killi?

Anonymous said...

Navindran

Any news about EELAM ECONOMY?

CriMeWatCh said...

Navindran is concerned only about collapsing economy.. nothing else. these blogs are not concerned about economy...

Anonymous said...

if this is true then there would be some surprise attack behind the enemy lines - the previous LTTE controlled areas will become a very good hunting ground for LTTE.

LTTE should do more to protect the innocent tamils from sinhala army.

Anonymous said...

the previous ltte controlled areas will become a very good hunting groung for ltte to hunt RABBITS.

Anonymous said...

@ Navindran

"All the way while I posted in defencewire, they were taking it as though I was joking."

This may come as a bit of a surprise to you... but you're still the biggest joke around...!!

HA HA HA....! FOB ECONOMIST...!!

Canadian said...

TRO FUNDS IN CANADA CONFISCATED
Thursday, 05 March 2009 12:53


The Canadian Government has decided to take over all assets that belong to Tamil Rehabilitation Organization (TRO) which had funded tiger terrorist organization to procure arms. The Federal Court in Canada has given authority, according to anti-terrorist act of Canada, to cease assets of TRO.

The accounts worth seventy million dollars maintained by Seetha Siththampalam, Ranindran Thambipillai, Jega Ramasamy and Panchalingam Paramanathan, main tiger agents in Canada, in several banks including CIBC bank too have been confiscated.

Attention has been drawn to assist civilians who have been distressed due to tiger terrorist atrocities with the assets Canadian government has confiscated. Canadian intelligence services have found documents that state TRO had given three million dollars to tiger leader Velupillai Prabakaran.

Anonymous said...

Another nail in the LTTE coffin. Thank you canada

tamil said...

Damn rogues.....This is a get rich quick system for all Tamils, they collect funds and distribute among themselves first and the remainder is sent for weapons. There should be a global bust on these criminals.

Anonymous said...

This news is true then , so far no sinhala has refuted

Anonymous said...

Defence.lk
{{According to the latest reports received from the battlefront troops are now continuing further search and clearing operations to hunt more LTTE infiltrators who have made a desperate attempt to breach the security forces defences during the early hours on Friday, 5 March.}}

Friday is 6 March. Defence.lk is in confusion.

{{'LTTE terrorists of "Radha" band attempted to breach the security forces defences linking 55 and 58 Divisions at south of Chalai around 4 AM yesterday.'}}

So, Badri's report is correct. Well done Badri.

Anonymous said...

Maaan, this blog is funnier than EllalanForce! This Badri guy is funnier than Mahen. I see resident eelamists like RejLord, Bhairav, Navidran et al have fallen for this buffoon. When are you going to realise that Badri is yet another Mahen and this blog is yet another parody?

moda banda said...

Guys this is SERIOUS. I just saw this on the net. seems the LTTE is seriously putting up a good fight...

>>>>>>>>22 SLA killed in Paalaikkuzhi fighting - LTTE

Liberation Tigers Operations Command in Mannaar Friday said at least 22 Sri Lanka Army soldiers were killed in two separate counter-attacks in Paalaikkuzhi, thwarting a fresh drive by the SLA in its attempt to move towards Adampan. More than 11 SLA soldiers were killed in direct combat which lasted for almost 8 hours. Later, the Tigers launched another attack on the SLA troops that had pulled back, killing 11 more soldiers in sniper fire in no-man area. Meanwhile, Sri Lanka Air Force helicopter landed at least six times to airlift the wounded soldiers.

Fighting raged from 9:00 a.m. till 3:30 when SLA attempted to advance through Paalaikkuzhi. Sustaining heavy casualties, the SLA hastedly abandoned the operation leaving behind military hardware at 3:30 p.m. Assault rifles, rounds and holsters were seized by the LTTE.

Tigers also mounted another attack on the withdrawing SLA soldiers in which 11 more soldiers were gunned down in no-man area between 3:30 p.m. and 6:00 p.m. The SLA was mounting close range mortar attacks to enable their troops to locate their dead bodies.

Tiger casualties were minimum, no cadre was killed in two days fighting in Mannaar, according to the LTTE Operations Command.

In the meantime, SLA was forced to abandon another attempt to advance in Pa'ndivirichchaan on Friday after two hours of intense fighting from 1:30 p.m.<<<<<<<<<

BUT Wait...it was a Friday, 08 February 2008 report on TAMILNET..... :))) HA HA HA...see how the LTTE "sucessfully thwarted" © the SLA advance..... they were so successful the SLA is now come forward more than 60 KM past Adampan..

On its way the LTTE has
Thwarted ©
counter-attacked ©
beaten back ©
stalled ©
decimated ©
the SLA over and over again..... :D
Badri ...Do you think that word-games will win the war for you?

Badri...how many SLA died in this..let me guess 17,343.567 ????

Civilian said...

Sri Lanka!! Please Stop The WAR
Sri Lanka!! Please Stop Killing Civilians

Please Save My Family (8 of them including 1 yr old and 87 yrs old)
Please save those innocent people.

http://srilankangenocide-civilian.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

"Please Save My Family (8 of them including 1 yr old and 87 yrs old)"
if them are LTTE terrorist (according to history there can be baby brigade (<5 yr), and older brigade(>85 yr)) they must die. If they are not LTTE terrorists don't worry. SLA will not harm any civilian.

Anonymous said...

"Badri...how many SLA died in this..let me guess 17,343.567 "
no machan, it should be 17,342.961. this is the exact number.

Anonymous said...

Hey Badri, the VP's ball sucker

40 bodies of LTTE f****ers recovered. More than 40 dead. Any idea about SLA casualties????
When is VP planning next counter strike..........keep dreaming.....looser

Nesan said...

To "moda banda",

What exactly is your point by referring back to something that happened last year to the current situation?

Many of you here seems so lost--couldn't make one constructive argument on anything. Is this something deeply inherent to the sinhala civilization or just you here?

Tharu22 said...

Oh Lord Nesan....
Please forgive us Stinkalese for our inherent stupidity and please enlighten us with your super intelligent tamil master race brain on what's happening...
When will the Glorious Kingdom of Tamil Eelam be realised? Tomorrow? or Day After?
Please enlighten us Lord....oooooom ooooom

nesan said...

TO Tharu22,

I will tell you when Eelam will be realized as soon as you tell me when you will COMPLETELY WIPE OUT THE TIGERS as you all are dreaming. Until then, hold your shit.

Anonymous said...

MODA BANANA..U BACK WITH UR STUPID STUNT...COCK SUCKER..FUCK OFF..KEEP UR INSANE JOKES TO UR ASS..PUT A LIT...LARD STEALING FORK SUCKER...

Anonymous said...

If you think this military action will solve your problem and you will be in peace and prosperity.. You are in lala land.
If history is your guide, you will think twice..
Make peace with Tigers else you and your kid's kids will fight this war...

Tharu22 said...

Oh Lord Nesan,
I could have told you that had I being a super intelligent master race Tamil like your holiness.
But sadly I am a stupid Stinkalese who knows nothing.
The stupidity of our Stinkalese nation is exemplified by the continous beatings we get from LTTE who have reduced our territory for a tiny swath of land. Our women and children die each day and we are about to be extinct but I guess it's ok for stupid Stinkalese to get wiped out by super intelligent Tamils and it's superior LTTE forces. (Some of us are pleading for a ceasfire but LTTE is having none of it. No pity at us at all...)
Therefore Lord Nesan, please don't be mad at the ignorance of this stupid Stinkalese and have mercy and answer my question.
Oh Lord....oooom oooom

Tharu22 said...

And lord Nesan,
Are you requesting me to hold my shit because a super intelligent Tamil is on his way to clean my toilet?
Oh Lord, we stupid Stinkalese don't understand these complicated super intelligent utterings of yours, please be specific.
Ooooom....Oooom

Anonymous said...

don't worry pal, we kill all terrorist and appoint karuna as the one and only representative of tamils ..so funny ha?...thats wots gonna happen.. and by the way well done with u r latest military success....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbZWWrDo5fM

moda banda said...

>>>>>>Anonymous said...

MODA BANANA..U BACK WITH UR STUPID STUNT...COCK SUCKER..FUCK OFF..KEEP UR INSANE JOKES TO UR ASS..PUT A LIT...LARD STEALING FORK SUCKER...<<<<<

:)

Anonymous said...

Some di-ASS-pora donkey said
>>>> Make peace with Tigers else you and your kid's kids will fight this war... <<<<<

Do you eat with your arse and shit with your mouth?
Why in the world you would dream of making such stupid statements? Can't you understand the reality you toilet cleaning refugee?

Nesan said...

To Tharu22,

U are continuously blabbering. Read my comments. I answered your question.

moda banda said...

>>>>>>Nesan said...

To "moda banda",

What exactly is your point by referring back to something that happened last year to the current situation?

Many of you here seems so lost--couldn't make one constructive argument on anything. Is this something deeply inherent to the sinhala civilization or just you here?<<<<<

Dear Nesan..I m surprised u cant understand sarcasm when u see it. Why I gave u that bit of flashback was to show you, how u (and the many tamils abroad) have been lead like a herd of cattle by Praba. The LTTE was always a cardboard hero, large sized but empty at the core. And to cover those deficiencies what they did was turn to propaganda.

Don't be foolish...this war is almost over...don't bet your money on the wrong hoarse....all these 55th PUSHED BACK TO CHALLAI, and 59TH DECIMATED etc etc, are nothing but propaganda, that praba uses to rake in some $$$ from ur hard earned pay packs....

Tharu22 said...

Moda Banda,
Please don't scold Lord Nesan...His wrath will burn us all!!!

And Lord Nesan,
Since I am stupid Stinkalese I did not get your answer (All I see is another question the answer to which is beyond the stupid Stinkalese).
Please be more specific simple (on both, when the Eelam will be achieved, and how long should I hold my shit till a Super Tamil toiler cleaner come this way)

Anonymous said...

OH DEAR MODA BANANA...U ARE SO RITE..HOW DID U PREDICT THE FUTURE..IS IT A INBORN TRAIT..THE WORLD CANT COMPREHEND UR ABILITIES..

PLEASE STOP..

TRY TO USE UR BRAIN INSTEAD OF UR COCK..TO THINK...

yOU ARE A BITCH ASS, GOITER LICKING, CHEAP PECKERHEAD..

AS USUAL..THE MESSAGE FOR...

...
FUCK OFF CRUD INFESTED BAG OF CRAP..

Anonymous said...

"Make peace with Tigers"
Else you will be left with only Terrorists like who tried to kill your sportsmen..Try makin deals then it will be too late...You will not know who hit you where ever you live....

Nesan said...

To Tharu22,

It seems u have difficulty comprehending basic writing. I will tell u when Eelam will be achieved THE MOMENT U tell me when Tigers/Tamils will be completely annihilated; and u can hold ur shit until all Tigers/Tamils are annihilated, as you hope to see.

Tharu22 said...

Nesan,
We will NEVER annihilate all Tamils (because we don't want to...). Now if LTTE volunteer and do that for us it's their problem.
Anyway, from your logic I guess this means Elam will NEVER be achieved.
Hmmm, still you can have an imaginary Eelam if you want some motivation to clean toilets.

Nesan said...

To Tharu22,

Again, u display difficulty in understanding what I wrote. I said I will tell you WHEN eelam will be achieved the moment u tell me when tamils/tigers will be wiped out. U have to use ur neurons more actively......The statement u will "never annihilate all Tamils" does not fit with the reality. Nonetheless, whether Tigers and Tamils are completely annihilated or not was not point; my point was the INTENTION and OBJECTIVE and the subsequent covert and overt actions of SL Forces/Govt that matters.

Tharu22 said...

So Nesan,
You asked me a question & I gave you an answer. So why don't you tell me when will your glorious Eelam be achieved.
I guess you're not man enough to admit that it's all gone now.

Nesan said...

To Tharu22,

Where is ur answer???... U are a comedy man. The Tamils/Tigers are still alive, not yet completely annihilated. Did the defense ministry give u a secret update that they are all gone or about to be gone??!??...Don't just prophesize as you traditionally do but tell when they will be gone WITH PROOF.

Anonymous said...

tharu. this is a asymmetric warfare. As such what the tiger have achieved so far itself and able to withstand for decades is a glory that cant be underestimated.

Tharu22 said...

Anonymous,
I would completely agree with you if the Tiger's intention is to prolong the misery and put up as much ressitance as possible before they go down.
But all this time I was under the impression that they were fighting for a independant state which theythought was realistically achievable.
Also all this time I was thinking Tigers (and their sympathisers) were arguing that they are a fully fledged conventional force which is in parity with Sri Lankan military.
Maybe I was wrong in thinking those stuff. But to me it seems like now that they are pretty much a lost cause your putting the standard down so that even putting up resistance is regarded as a victory. Not sure how this will win Eelam

Anonymous said...

Tharu,

As i said, asymmetric warfare. So army will certainly have more funds and manpower.So, for tigers to survive for decades withstanding those army and what is more astounishing tiger were able to maintain land area under these circumstances. Afterall they are freedom fighters and not an army force with resources.

Anonymous said...

Hi Guys,
A scotish guy just told me how the name "Tamil" was originated. Most of these guys in the North of SL were used as slaves by the British and they have had "ill tummies" ...farting all the time and infected with deseases like Diarrhea. So they had been called as "Tummy Ills" Later bacame "tamils". So that's why they couldn't mix up with rest of the population and the good Dravidians who came from India, got mixed up with the rest of the population !

Sorry guys...I didn't mean to hurt any one, but just heard this story and left the comment as there as many people in this blog who still read epics like Mahavamsa"....:)

Anonymous said...

Peelam Dicktionary (updated)

Intelligent = retarded

Citizens = refugees

Civillian - Terrorist (Added by Ninja)

professionals = coolies

air crafts = tin cans

Tactically withdraw = stick the tail up your ass and run

Between the SLA and the Mulathivu sea = Between the devil and the deep sea

Anonymous said...

tamil Peelam organizations:

Leading Tamils To Extinction - LTTE -

Frustrated And Retarded Tamils - FART

Suckkiliyas Hiding In Toilets - SHIT

Tamil Retards Organization - TRO

Federal Union of Crazy Kallathonis - FUCK

Anonymous said...

Whoa....
I heard a pundit talking about the Sri Lankan economy. At the moment SL economy has a very strong stand. The economic strenth these days are not measured by old measuring rods.
Watch this vedio
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=iDdL3e- j1JQ
This says that SL has the WORLDS BEST STOCK MARKET!!

I toured SL recently and they have put the base for a very high economic growth while the west is falling. Unfortunately for us the western currencies have gone down and our spending power is less when we're in SL.

Anyway I think MR is doing the needful to boost up the country. The terroris problem is only one aspect of it.

Tharu22 said...

Ok guys,
Now that all the diaspora have implicitly acknowledged that what matters to LTTE is mere survival and winning the Eelam is not even in the table anymore I will not embarass any of you guys anymore by asking when the Eelam will be achieved!!
I guess all the diaspora can tell stories to their children how 'astounding' the LTTE were, how they were able to maintain vast land areas, how they had supersonic fighter jets and boldly attacked Colombo etc etc. They will make pretty neat bedtime stories.

Tharu22 said...

Super brliant Nesan,
Your arguement is equivalent to saying as long as there are some Nazis left in the world the Nazi state is achieved.
Of course there are some neo-nazis even to this day but does it mean there's a Nazi state?
(Of course those neo-Nazis must be having an imaginary Fatherland in their minds just like your imaginary Eelam. No probs, we will not interfere with your freedom of thought, LMAO)

Anonymous said...

I think the problem was,
Sri lankans influced by Buddhism (all including muslims, many tamils in the south & upcountry) were forgiving and compassionate. So Extremist tamils thought it's the best place to take a home land.

Unfortunately some non-srilankan leaders like Bandaranayake (Oriented from a nothern tamil Called Bandari, who served western invaders") and J R Jayawardana(comes from the familly of Thambi Mudliyar...who served dutch) had done few bad things to SL Tamils. Srilankan buddhist and Catholics like my parents had protected these people when J R ill-treated them!

So still these guys blame Sinhala buddhists and catholics for mis treating them....that's bullshit....

Otherwise why don't they ask for a seperate state from Malysia, Indunisia. South africa etc??? why can't they take it from UK (becuase brits will do the needful to them)...These ppl in Uk will screw their asses if they ask for a seperate land...even socts gave up their native language and started using English!

worf said...

Tharu the Tamils don't necessarily need the LTTE to achieve statehood. Some think that the Tamils are more likely to achieve it without the LTTE.

India does not intervene in Sri Lanka now because the LTTE foolishly assassinated Rajiv Gandhi. Without the LTTE in the picture the Indians are better off allowing Tamil statehood if its clear the Sinhalese will never give real autonomy to the Tamils.

Had VP more political acumen, or the Tamils more united Tamil statehood would have been achieved a while back. Do not confuse the LTTE and Tamil nationalism... they are not the one and the same. Tamil nationalism will outlive the LTTE. Also do not think all Tamils are like those in the Diaspora that are too cowardly to put their children where their mouths and money are ;)

“Do you know what astonished me most in the world? The inability of force to create anything. In the long run, the sword is always beaten by the spirit.” ~ Napoleon Bonaparte

Roy Muller said...

@Anonymous
"Otherwise why don't they ask for a seperate state from Malysia, Indunisia. South africa etc??? why can't they take it from UK"

Hey fool didnt you know that the chinese majority (70%)in Singapore who migrated in early 1900s got an independent country from Malaysia in 1965 !!!

Anonymous said...

Why are the Ealam guys silent. It's hard to know digest that Bandaranayake and J R Jayawardana who mistreated tamils are one of their own.

The sinhalese (this is a common nations made by ancient tamils, indians and natives) allowed a tamil guy to be their king..called Rajasinghe...the last king of SL. He was so weak..where SL was invaded fully by a foreign nation. Sinhalese made and Obama before the US, but these guys are too weak to rule a country like SL.

If they just ask for a land peacefully from a real Sri Lankan leader (like MR) he will some how give it to you guys....and we sinhalese don't care...but you are out of track now!

Anonymous said...

To Stupid Roy Muller,
Did Li Kuan Yu wanted a blood bath like the LTTE. Did they kill innocent people to get the seperate country, singapoer? This is the only point..if LTTE didn't kill the peacefull tamil intelligent politicians, they could have easily got a piece from this small country as well.

:)...use your brain pal!

Tharu22 said...

Worf,
I have to agree with you to a great extent. It's nice to see some Tamils with baraisn intact (assuming you're a Tamil). Some of the points to ponder:
1. You say that Tamils do not need statehood. Fully agree. (Will not get it even if they want). But that's what LTTE need(ed). What brought them to their current pathetic situ is the insistence not be satified with anything short of statehood.

2. You said Tamils & LTTE are not the same. Fully agree again. It's unfortunate that some of the diapora fools think otherwise and use the two terms interchangably.

3. You said Tamil nationalism will not die. This probably is true too. But the truth of the matter is Tamil homeland is in Tamilnadu and not in India. (There were Tamil kngdoms in North Sri Lanka from about 11th century A.D till the westerners came. But I doubt this will give sufficient credibility to 'homeland' story. The case forEastern province is even weaker and almost non-existant)

4. Nationalism alone can not create independant states. The Geo-political environment have to be right. With the end of cold war and the (relative) rise of India, the creation of a Tamil homeland is basically impossible now. Tamil nationalism will worry India more than it worry Sri Lanka.

5. As you implicitly indicate, I think LTTE is the best thing that happened to Sinhalese. It basically converted the Tamil struggle into a bloody terrorist mafia and gave enough justifcation for GOSL to do whatever it wants. Whether you accept it or not that's what's happening right now. World does not care what happens to tamils in SL and they'll be more that glad as long as LTTE is wiped out.

6. You said a Tamil statehood would have been achieved already had VP had a bit of brains. Yeah fully agree, and thank god he doesn't!

Anonymous said...

And Tamils wanted a piece of Malaysia too. And Mahatir Mohammed gave them that in hell!!

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I guess now the super intelligent thamilaaaz on this blog have moved from human to super human ways of speech.......

Nesan said...

To Tharu22,
Sinhala chavunism is the Nazisim for us. Sinhala leadership are the Nazis for us. The sinhala oppression's hands are undoubtedly high now, but Tamils' thirst for freedom won't fade even if the Tigers dissapear completely (which is hihgly unlikely). It will only take new forms. We all have to wait and see. Just don't go cracking up fireworks just yet. And, please, desist from speaking on behalf of Tamils. Can I ask you one question: would your gov't ever dare doing a referendum among the NE Tamils to decide whether they are with the Tigers or with the Gov't as some here seems to be in the illusion that Tigers and Tamils are two different groups.

Tharu22 said...

Nesan Asks,
"would your gov't ever dare doing a referendum among the NE Tamils to decide whether they are with the Tigers or with the Gov't as some here seems to be in the illusion that Tigers and Tamils are two different groups."

Sure, this was already done in the East and the results were clear. There will be elections in the North too. (And mind you those elections in the East were a million times free than the elections where current TNA jokers came to Parliament on which foreign observers noted single person voting dozens of times in N&E)

Tharu22 said...

BTW if Tamils & LTTE are the same, why dotigers shoot at the civilians who try to cross over. (Hmm, perhaps LTTE is thinking they're shooting at themselves since LTTE & Tamils are the same)

Tharu22 said...

Nesan said,
"Sinhala chavunism is the Nazisim for us. Sinhala leadership are the Nazis for us."

Hey, keep crying cry baby nobody cares. Nobody in the world care for brutal LTTE terrorists and their pathetic supporters

Nesan said
"The sinhala oppression's hands are undoubtedly high now..."

Oh is it? This is news for me. Looking at this blog I was thinking LTTE is stronger than ever & SLA is attacked from front & rear in multiple fronts.

Hey loser, go to a corner and cry... 'cos nobody listens to you

worf said...

Tharu: 1. You say that Tamils do not need statehood. Fully agree. (Will not get it even if they want). But that's what LTTE need(ed). What brought them to their current pathetic situ is the insistence not be satified with anything short of statehood.

Worf: Read what I said carefully... I never said the Tamils don't need statehood, I said perhaps they don't need the LTTE to achieve it.


Tharu: 3. You said Tamil nationalism will not die. This probably is true too. But the truth of the matter is Tamil homeland is in Tamilnadu and not in India. (There were Tamil kngdoms in North Sri Lanka from about 11th century A.D till the westerners came. But I doubt this will give sufficient credibility to 'homeland' story. The case forEastern province is even weaker and almost non-existant)

Worf: Historical precedence is irrelevent... we can argue for years about who came first, yet the recent situation demographically is more pertinent.

Tharu: 4. Nationalism alone can not create independant states. The Geo-political environment have to be right. With the end of cold war and the (relative) rise of India, the creation of a Tamil homeland is basically impossible now. Tamil nationalism will worry India more than it worry Sri Lanka.

Worf: Geopolitical environments change ;)
India's calculations vis a vis its internal integrity are never constant as well =D

If and when the LTTE is eliminated the Sinhalese will have to deliver serious devolution or risk facing external intervention, most likely precipitated by shifting geopolitical calculations. Either way the SL governments has no track record of offering real devolution, and now they must offer at the least federalism. They are therefore eliminating the straw man at their own risk ;)

Tharu22 said...

Worf,
I too agree that historical precedance is irrelevant (or less relevant). But I think it's probably to strongest case Tamils have at the moment. (Because geo-political balance does not allow a Tamil state in the foreseeable future). My point was that even their strongest point for a statehood is pretty weak.
Ultimately Tamils will ending up getting something similar to what they got in India. My honest view is Tamils didn't have to go through all this suffering to achieve that. (i.e.had those so called liberated were a bit more sensible they could have achieved that (and perhaps more) at a much smaller cost.

Roy Muller said...

@ Anonymous " To Stupd Roy Muller Did Li Kuan Yu wanted a blood bath like the LTTE. Did they kill innocent people to get the seperate country, singapoer? This is the only point..if LTTE didn't kill the peacefull tamil intelligent politicians, they could have easily got a piece from this small country as well.'

Moron 1st get the name correct its LEE Kuan Yew and not Li Kuan Yu !! Moron dont you know about the racial riotings in 1963 / 1965 ? ?? 100s of Malays were slaughtered in Singapore and 1000s of Chinese in Malaysia, to reduce blood bath, the then ruler of Malysia Tunku decided to part with Singapore. Get ur facts star8 before u fart here

2nd - back in teh 50s and 60s Tamils peacefully asked for equal rights etc but you Nazis denied them equality ..

Anonymous Stinka-leech, you either are a retarded kid or you lack an education .

worf said...

Roy Muller you must realize the Sinhalese as well as the Tamils had quite ignorant retarded leadership.

Sinhalese and Buddhist chauvinism reared its head within the political elite when a Western-educated Christian Sinhalese who couldn't speak much Sinhalese (quite the whitewashed fucker) decided provoking the Sinhalese masses into racial and communal thinking was the way to win an election.

At the same time although some of the Tamil politicians were genuine we had quite a few that went along with the Sinhalese and supported the disenfranchisement of the Indian Tamils in Sri Lanka.

Quite simply Singapore and Malaysia had more civilized, long-run thinking leadership whereas we had, however educated, fools.

worf said...

Tharu, I doubt the geopolitical landscape will stay the same... it only takes one triggering event to transform the whole landscape.(assassination of Franz Ferdinand, 9/11 etc)

As for achieving the same... all the earlier pacts (DC, BC) came to nothing. Even if one of the Sinhalese parties wanted to devolve power, the system is set up so the others can agitate against it and sabotage it. Then one of the original saboteurs will offer a similar package many years later to get sabotaged politically by one of the original devolution offering parties. An so forth...

I don't think the Sinhalese can or will offer anything tangible without external intervention. Two decades ago the Indians, as an external party, thought a 'regional' setup would suffice. Today no external party thinks anything less than federalism will suffice.

Anonymous said...

To Roy Muller,
Thanks for correcting the name of Lee Kuan Yew....I was talking about the person you moron..not about how to spell his name....English is irrelevent here....

And what do you know about SL you dumb ass. (It's seems you are learning world affairs by reading WIki! Lots of interesting things happened in 1963 in Malysia other than the riots..which you will not find in wiki or in the net!!)Do you know what I meant by LTTE's blood thirst??

Meaning of LTTE's blood bath is Slaughtering entire villages, Massacaring people, blasting trains, buses,...this is the blood bath.

And what do you know about Buddhism and what do you know about SL history (Not what you see in Wiki!..like your stupid riots in Malysia)..it was Christian rulers who ruled country and mis-treated Tamils..my parents..who were good buddhists still remember the good times they had with tamils and worry about how christian leaders treated tamils.

After we were born we only saw destruction done by the LTTE. Same applies to the children in the North..who saw the destruction done by the SLA...This is a vicious cycle and hard to put this to an end without erradicating this terrorist group.

Roy Muller said...

@ Anonymous

Stop your pep talk about fake Buddhism. Buddhist clergy instigated violence against Tamils and dont shift the blame on Christians Moron. 75% of Stinka-leeches are Buddhists, thus the majority takes the responisblity and blame.

Plus read up on the Maha Vamsa thingy idiot the ideology of Theravada buddhsim's supremacy anf hegemony MORON

@worf I concur with you

Roy Muller said...

2 Anonymous "Meaning of LTTE's blood bath is Slaughtering entire villages, Massacaring people, blasting trains, buses,...this is the blood bath."

Was there an LTTE before 1983 ? Who 1st initiated the blood bath MORON ?

LTTE is branded as "terrorist" what about your so-called buddhist democratic state's record on human rights and genocide of Tamil ??

The fanatic buddhist clergy instead of stopping violence against the minority and bring about peace provoked the retarded buddhist masses to frenzy mobs ..

Even today your Buddhist military is responsible for Tamil genocide and rapes with the blessings of the fanatic buddhist clergy. Do you need me to direct you to recent war clips as show evidence, MORON ??..

Roy Muller said...

watch clip on Buddhist monks blessing army personnels and vehicles on 2/3/09, A 9 opening (from 1:50 sec onwards)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Slzxgz7XgE

Anonymous said...

You can also see Roy Muller s whore of a mom giving blow jobs to all soldiers in the vicinity in the same video!!! :-))))