Monday, April 6, 2009

Rumors the Sri Lankan military used chemical weapons

There have been rumors going around that the Sri Lankan military used chemical weapons yesterday in its battle against the LTTE. We do not have proof one way or the other, but two odd points cast doubts on the government. For the first time ever, pictures of the dead LTTE bodies have unusual burn wounds and skin peeling off in many places. In the past the bodies have never had such wounds. Secondly, the Sri Lankan military has blurred out parts of the dead fighters' bodies, most commonly the face (but many faces are also left unblured, so they are not trying to hide the person's identity). There are no signs of blood in the blured out area, so the only logical conclusion is that they want to hide the oddly peeled and burnt skin, which would be most visible on the exposed face. Below are a few examples of these wounds:




In the photo above, why is his chest blurred out? There is no sign of a bullet wound, but you can see a rash or burn around his neck and the blurred area, plus his skin is peeling off on many places.





















Why did the Sri Lankan government blur out the faces in the top row, but not the faces below:





What are they trying to hide by blurring out the faces? There are no signs of bullet wounds there, and they obviously aren't hiding their identity, because other faces are being shown. It is possible they are trying to cover up signs of peeling and burnt skin, which would be most visible on the exposed faces.

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Unknown said...

"There was no justification. It is all realpolitik. India played a bloody game in SL, Rajiv was murdered by a terrorist organization. These are facts. No context or reason changes any of them.

Another fact: that account is yet to be closed"

The arrogance in your statement is breathtaking too!

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Sri Lankan army has captured "all the land" but they still haven't found the cave base carved into granite rocks under the ground. There are tunnels running for miles from there to other locations.

If Prabhakaran chooses that route, PTK will eventually be captured and they will find nothing at all. It will go back to basics, where LTTE has a huge advantage. No more air strikes, no artillery, no tanks - all of the expensive weapons the Sri Lankan army bought will be useless. Back to hit and run, what started it all.

Peter said...

People are getting shelled, and LTTE has no answer to that. Air raids and artillery attacks have people on death watch. They can either stay to die or leave for detention.

When people weren't getting bombed, how many left?

And, yes. All the atrocities you talk of are so true. Which is why only Sinhala media is allowed to report on it.

You really want to hide LTTE atrocities from the world, don't you? What other reason for not allowing international media into the so called 'safe-zone'?

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Nadesan back after having been net-arrested last week:

http://tamilweek.com/news-features/archives/1534

Saul said...

John:
The arrogance in your statement is breathtaking too!

Fair comment.

But I stated a fact, not an opinion. You cannot expect to murder a head of state and get away with it entirely. We're not the US of A, but we're not Somalia* either.

I hope the 'Somalian' on this thread agrees!

Peter said...

Neither can you expect to get away with killing 5, 000 people.

Who is going to be held accountable for that?

Ashok Kumar said...

After Rajiv's death, India kept away from seriously engaging in LTTE- Srilankan affairs for a very long time.

Many of the Tiger's breakthrough victories were achieved and LTTE was controlling most of the north and east for a considerable period...

Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

Don Mahindapala is the man who writes BS about 'unitary state' at all given opportunities.

Now, even he is saying Tamils and Sinhalese need to be kept separate, because of their 'history of violence' against each other. ...]




he thinks that all Tamils should be in the concentration camps?


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Peter said...

Rajeev was not "head of state" at the time of his death. But that is irrelevant for anyone who values all lives as equal. Some are more equal....

Unknown said...

Saul, both yours & peters are opinions arising from a fact(Rajivs/Tamil civilians) death..he can easily turn ur statement around saying "You cannot expect to murder thousands of civilians and get away with it entirely"

I am not justifying anything..just pointing out that urs is also an opinion.In fact the above statement held true for Rajivs mother as well

m.q.k said...

peter...

i think the idea should be implemented simultaneously..
as currently there is a worldwide protest...it will have immediate effect..

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["You cannot expect to murder a head of state and get away with it entirely."]

He wasn't the head of state, he was an unemployed ex-prime minister looking for work.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Peter,

How do you know for sure it is NOT the LTTE shelling to get petty PR mileage when the civilians, fire-finder radars, and pure common sense points it?

Is that your conviction and belief deny all the other evidence??

Saul said...

Peter,

The death of any human being is a tragedy. But this is a war that the LTTE and SLA are fighting. People get killed. That's the strange thing about wars. I would rather they not fight wars, but there it is. The LTTE isn't exactly blameless either, but that argument will take us down the same path.

Ashok Kumar said...

NDTV head line:

Vaiko warns bloodbath in Tamilnadu if Prabhakaran is harmed.

m.q.k said...

peter..

with the current ongoing protest...people who were previously unaware of the conflict will look for update..get it..

Peter said...

NOLTTE=Peace,

Of course, I think LTTE is firing the shells. I also think GoSL is blocking international monitors from the area because it does not want LTTE blamed.

Unknown said...

I think it is time for ltte to let UN take out the civilians under condition that they will be supervised by UN in camps..it should then shift back to guerilla war without delay as the Sinhalas have cleverly exploited ltte reluctance to leave civilians to Sinhala atrocity by compelling it to fight in a small defenceless beach and decimating with mbrl and cluster bombs. there is no point wasting its fighters like this

Saul said...

Badri and Peter, I stand corrected. He was ex-PM at the time. As Badri puts it, the sod was "looking for work"! (Yeah I was/am no supporter of his/Congress).

Peter, however we may wish it otherwise, in this world all lives are not equal. Vellupillai Prabhakaran's life is not equal to that of an LTTE frontline grunt is it?

John, see the above para for my reply.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Many people like to say killing Rajiv Gandhi was the LTTE's greatest mistake, and if they hadn't done it India would have helped form Tamil Eelam.

The truth is if the LTTE hadn't killed Rajiv Gandhi, RAW would have killed Prabhakaran long ago and the LTTE would have been sold out by Karuna like people.

All of the huge victories the LTTE achieved throughout the 90's came because India was out of the picture. In the end, things turned around because India came back into the picture. What is happening today would have happened 20 years earlier if it wasn't for the Rajiv Gandhi assassination.

Ultimately it has brought it's own negative results. But the LTTE wouldn't have had anything better had they not done it. India was never an honest supporter of Tamil freedom.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

D,

Do you want to kill John Holmes too?? He has spoken against LTTE!


John Holmes on LTTE Hostages

Peter,

Read the above.. It is NOT me telling what your LTTE do to your own Tamizz!

Peter said...

Saul,

I get your argument: "People get killed." No one is accountable for the death of 5, 000 but someone should pay for death on one person. Makes a lot of sense.

Ashok Kumar said...

Something happening? Vaiko often talks to Nadesan and others over Phone. (During Muthukumaran's funeral, he reproduced LTTE's statement dictated to him over the phone.)

Peter said...

John Holmes was allowed to visit the so called "Safety-Zone" and speak to the people?

Why could he even take his own translator to the detention centres?

Why not allow someone from IC to travel to this so called "safe-zone"? Is it because GoSL does not want LTTE exposed?

Saul said...

Badri: India was never an honest supporter of Tamil freedom.

Every country looks out for itself, first and last. Why should that be a surprise to anyone? India did not get her freedom because the Brits felt magnanimous. They left because their presence was not viable any more.

Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

Early indications are that bandas used mustard gas.

Trying desperately hard to retrieve bodies to use as evidence.

UN and ICRC have refused to investigate. ...]



If there were even a minor indication of chemical usage by the LTTE, all these people (UN, IC, etc.) will shout. When the GOSL uses, no one wants to investigate.

So, is this a greenlight to the GOSL to use the chemical weapons on civilians becoz UN & ICRC will NOT investigate :-(


UN was started after the NAZIS to protect innocent civilians and now it has become a NAZI organization!


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Peter said...

Badri,

IPKF fought a war against LTTE and attempted to shuv a so called solution down Tamils' throat several years before Rajeev was killed.

Rajeev's death made little impact on India/Tamil relations.

But Eelam Tamil/ TN Tamil relation was affected. That needs to be back united on one global Tamil community status for us to survive anywhere in the world.

Saul said...

Peter: No one is accountable for the death of 5, 000 but someone should pay for death on one person. Makes a lot of sense.

Someone should indeed be held accountable - but who? SLA or the LTTE? That's an ongoing debate.

I will say this, in the real world we live in, the lives of some people are more important. I don't have to like it, that's the way it is.

I repeat, is the life of Prabhakaran is more important to LTTE supporters than that of an LTTE foot soldier? If not, then why all the hungama? If yes, it proves my point.

Peter said...

Saul,

I have to thank you for the gem of a statement:

"Every country looks out for itself, first and last. Why should that be a surprise to anyone? India did not get her freedom because the Brits felt magnanimous. They left because their presence was not viable any more."

Every Tamil on this planet should read the above. Only way to get freedom is to make Sinhala presence in Tamileelam inviable.

Anonymous said...

[NOLTTE=Peace said...

D,

Do you want to kill John Holmes too?? He has spoken against LTTE!


John Holmes on LTTE Hostages

Peter,

Read the above.. It is NOT me telling what your LTTE do to your own Tamizz! ...]



Poor Tamil civilians ... all are aligned with the Tamils genocide.


John cannot see the shelling/bombing of hospitals by the SLA, killing of civilians by the sla, concentration camps, torture, arbitrary arrest, whie van, abductions of tamils, cluster bombs, chemical weapons, ...


Shit John has no right to talk about Tamils struggle for freedom from the Singhala barbarians.


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Peter said...

mahindan10,

GoSL has a free hand to do a lot of things that LTTE can not.

Read this about Kurdish people in Iraq:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/11/20/sbm.iraq.galbraith/

Even Mahinda might get prosecuted one day if it suits the IC's agenda at the time.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["So, is this a greenlight to the GOSL to use the chemical weapons on civilians becoz UN & ICRC will NOT investigate :-("]

The IC is turning the other way because it was used against LTTE fighters (something that is still against international law). Basically the message is you can do anything you want to the "terrorists" because you are a country. Anything short of a nuclear weapon will be allowed. The US used daisy cutter thermobaric bombs in Afghanistan that are equivalent to the nuclear bombs dropped on Nagasaki. No one said anything.

Peter said...

Saul,

5, 000 relates to Rajeev's "blunder".

Saul said...

Peter: Rajeev's death made little impact on India/Tamil relations.

But Eelam Tamil/ TN Tamil relation was affected. That needs to be back united on one global Tamil community status for us to survive anywhere in the world.


Unless you meant it otherwise - in which case my apologies - this is also one reason that the Indians who do oppose the LTTE, oppose the LTTE.

The perception is that the concept of a 'global Tamil community status' is just another way of saying 'Grand Tamil Nation of India/SL'.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

Peter,

Are you talking about Thamil Eelam in Scarborough?

Yes, many Sinhalese have moved out to Markham and Mississauga because it is unlivable in Scarborough Thamil Eelam for peaceful people.

m.q.k said...

peter..check ur blog comment..

Anonymous said...

[Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["So, is this a greenlight to the GOSL to use the chemical weapons on civilians becoz UN & ICRC will NOT investigate :-("]

The IC is turning the other way because it was used against LTTE fighters (something that is still against international law). Basically the message is you can do anything you want to the "terrorists" because you are a country. Anything short of a nuclear weapon will be allowed. The US used daisy cutter thermobaric bombs in Afghanistan that are equivalent to the nuclear bombs dropped on Nagasaki. No one said anything. ...]



Pitty, the LTTE is not prepared for this and they do not have good chemical weapons to use against these animals!


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Saul said...

Peter, re: the IPKF comment, ok. Same point applies. IPKF or LTTE? Who's responsible?

I have spoken enough; unless you have a specific question, I'll just hang back (I will be reading). My purpose was not to derail the thread, which I seem to have done.

Peter said...

Saul,

Global Tamil Community is a trans-state nation. It already exists.

We have no empire building ambitions; that's so medieval.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["I repeat, is the life of Prabhakaran is more important to LTTE supporters than that of an LTTE foot soldier? If not, then why all the hungama? If yes, it proves my point."]

You need to avoid shifting your arguments. If you are arguing based on morality, then both are equal. If you are arguing based on politics, then leaders are more important than others. You can't argue based on morality and then switch your position to say leaders are more important.

If your position is that murder must be punished, then your stance is based on morality, so don't bring the objective view of politics into the equation.

If you want to change your argument to one of politics, then there is no such thing as a moral punishment for a political crime. Both crime and punishment are arbitrary based on the "powerful". There is no such thing as right and wrong in regards to politics.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["IPKF or LTTE? Who's responsible?"]

In the case of IPKF there is no doubt who is responsible. There was no "human shield" back then. IPKF soldiers murdered and raped thousands of civilians. The question of who is responsible doesn't even need to be asked. It is ludicrous in fact.

Peter said...

mahindan10,

Should the 'end game' arrive, I reckon, it will be 'no holds barred'.

I always say to people, don't worry until something 'terrible' happens in banda-stan. That's when you know LTTE has given up on conventional capabilities.

m.q.k said...

MORE GREAT IMAGE FOR SHIT LANKA

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6059792.ece

Mr Subramaniyan said that his relatives had been killed in the most recent wave of violence in Sri Lanka: "Two days ago the Sri Lankan government was bombing with poison gas, chemical gas. In that bomb, nearly my whole family - five members of my family - is dead."

Unknown said...

Just a thought..if the SLN sailor had succeeded in killing Rajiv it would have been srilanka in the hot waters and tamils may have even gained some form of independence by now..

agentx said...

Okay terrorists,
read it and weep!

http://www.nationalsecurity.lk/fullnews.php?id=18984

Saul said...

Badri, I may not have been clear - in short mine is a political/Indian interest argument. LTTE murdered an Indian PM. I oppose* any step by GOI that supports the LTTE. That's about it.

*: Not that the GOI gives a damn about what I think.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

If we take the question in a more logical direction it becomes "IPKF or Rajiv Gandhi? Who's responisble?

Rajiv Gandhi sent the IPKF to fight Tamil people who had no feud with India.

Rajiv Gandhi directly covered up the misconduct (rapes and murders of civilians) carried out by IPKF soldiers.

Rajiv Gandhi purposely sent mostly sikh soldiers instead of Tamil soldiers so that there would be animosity between the two sides.

Rajiv Gandhi publicly glorified the IPKF forces despite knowing they had committed thousands of rapes and murders.

Not a single IPKF criminal (those who engaged in rape and murder of civilians) was ever punished for their crimes. So who is responsible? The head of the government who allowed them to go free.

Peter said...

m.g.k,

Read your comment. Again, it is politics. Right wing paper. You can look it up on Wikipedia.

Again, emphasizes the need for us to work even harder to get what we need. It is just that kind of stuff that keeps the Diaspora going.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["and tamils may have even gained some form of independence by now.."]

Politicians never allow either side to win. They will prop up one side until the other side is weak, and then switch sides.

Peter said...

Saul said...
LTTE murdered an Indian PM.

----

Not quite sure who you mean. Care to explain?

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Okay terrorists,"]

I'm sorry, but you need to be a little more specific, as we have terrorists from many different countries here. Some even from Somalia.

NOLTTE=Peace said...

As I heard correct, the Second Generation of LTTE and their supporters are from IPKF fathers!

Is that right?

m.q.k said...

Red Cross worker killed in Sri Lanka
Print article
Refer to a friend
© AP
2009-04-08 19:13:03 -



GENEVA (AP) - The international Red Cross committee says one of its aid workers has been killed in the Sri Lanka civil war.
The International Committee of the Red Cross says Sinnathurai Kugathasan was hit by a shell Wednesday morning while getting water for his family in a coastal area held by Tamil rebels in northern Sri Lanka.
Paul Castella, the head of the ICRC delegation, says the agency feels devastated and deeply saddened by Kugathasan's death.

The ICRC says Kugathasan leaves behind a wife and three children. The water technician had been working with the agency since 2002.
Tens of thousands of civilians are huddled in the area on the island's northeast coast where the Tamil Tiger rebels are holed up defending themselves against government troops.

Peter said...

Badri,

To add to what you said,

Rajiv Gandhi even went against his own accord by allowing Sri Lankan military to take custody of arrested former Tamil militants.

Even though we didn't like the India-Lanka accord, because it didn't guarantee us anything, as we were still left at the mercy of Colombo, Tamils held no resentment against IPKF when they first arrived.

Saul said...

Badri -Which US president is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq? Should he be assasinated?

Which UK PM supported the US president who was responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq? Should he be assasinated too?

On IPKF, despite being an army brat from a while back, you probably know more than me. However, I will say that all armies are guilty of some misconduct; the thousands of murder and rapes you speak of is an emotional argument.

As for Tamil soldiers deployed with IPKF, I can look it up but I do know about this guy:

http://www.indianarmy.gov.in/PVC/photo_13.htm

Bhairav said...

Re: Rajeev Ghandi

Guys, Rajeev wasn't an angel by any means; he was the guy who pocketed millions of $ as commision through Bofors gun deal. Especially a person who came from a rich family as Nehru family can steal millions of $ while 70% of his people were below the poverty line or barely managed their daily needs, think what he would have done if he was from the poor family. Nehru family produced some great leaders, and Rajeev was nowhere there. That does not mean that I justify his killing but behind the scene shady deals and sneaky political moves caught up him.

Saul said...

Peter- I have to apologize again. Ex- PM! Ex-PM!

Hardly changes my point, though.

m.q.k said...

Peter,badri...

previously the CARE worker who died was a terrorist according to shit lanka gov.. are they goin to label this red cross guy a terrorist too :)

Peter said...

Saul,

I suspect that there is at least a slight bit of difference between a serving head of state and a former one.

President Obama? President Bush?

Saul said...

While I support the SLA, I am find completely laughable the conceit of some Sinhala 'patriots' who seem to think that the Tamil culture is inferior in any way.

On the contrary, Tamil culture as far as I know it in India is (strictly IMO) perhaps the most advanced (in terms of contribution) along with Bengali culture - music, arts, business, literature, bureaucracy you name it they've been there done that.

Peter: on your "empire building being so medieval" theme, I don't believe a word you say there.

Peter said...

m.q.k

Despite being an ICRC employee, the man is a Tamil; hence, nothing beyond the press-release.

IC are the guys who had tea with Pillaiyan days after his group abducted and murdered two Tamil ICRC employees while they were on 'training trip' to Colombo.

Unknown said...

saul, i dont think the ipkf activities could be termed ' misconduct' ..the documentation is pretty extensive. lets accept the atrocities but move on from there; sometimes acceptance heals a lot of wounds.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

"28 April 2009 Deadline for India to destroy declared chemical weapons stockpiles"

Looks like India may have found a way to "destroy" their chemical weapons before the deadline.

Bhairav said...

Guys, I listen to Thamilaruvi last night, according to him, Congress has no chance in coming election since UP and Bigar which are the two swing states decide the PM seat of India, and currently it is in rock bottom there.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Badri -Which US president is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq? Should he be assasinated?"]

Are you asking a moral or political question? And if political from which countries perspective?

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Are you asking a moral or political question?"]

If you are asking morally, I think the Iraqi people have a moral right to decide that, and I wouldn't blame them whatever they chose.

Peter said...

Saul,

That's entirely up to you. Tamils have been successful in every country where they have been allowed equal opportunities. TN is one of the most advanced states in India. I don't think Tamils have significant reasons for armed conflict there.

If you are talking of Tamil unity, you will find the most patriotic Tamils in South Africa.

I am from Eelam; I know a lot of people who gave their lifetimes and lives for the Tamil people.

Yet, I would say South African Tamils are more patriotic Tamils than Eelam Tamils.

Now, do you think South Africa is going to be part of some physical Tamil empire?

This is 21st century. Empire building has no real space or acceptance.

Saul said...

OK, lot's of interesting responses (Badri I think you're splitting hairs), but I need to bugger off for the time being. Will respond later if anyone gives a damn by then.

Gotta go. Have to justify my salary. Or just justify, in these times of gloom and doom.

Bhairav said...

Guys, if you've read Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine", you would know that unprecedented level of struggles Eelam Tamils face in SL now may see the light soon. I do not buy at everything what she said but some really make sense.

Bhairav said...

What our Tamil diaspora youth spearheads the Tamil voice against GoSL tells that we've come long way. Contrary to what many said about our second generation diaspora Tamils, we're going forward in right direction for the Tamil cause.

Dinesh said...

There is talk of impending attack on Safe Zone. Is this true?

Bhairav said...

DW bugger came up with another finale.

tn thamilz said...

Dinesh wrote: "There is talk of impending attack on Safe Zone. Is this true?"

That is what I am worried about too.. There is a total news black out from Tamil medium about the current situation in PKY :(

Bhairav said...

[DW said @ DW blog

4. The actual operation could be as simple as all units jumping into the safe one with each unit playing a specific pre-determined role.]

I'm sure what is pre-defined role.

I. rape all the girls and women in Safe zone
II. steal as much as they can including any available electronic devices.
III. screen the folks, of them hand over the able men/women to white van or killer squads.

etc.

Bhairav said...

Dinesh is another Sinhala banda here.

Peter said...

Bhairav,

Earlier, Dinesh was talking about his radio which showed photos.

I think that explains his confused birth.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["II. steal as much as they can including any available electronic devices."]

I think the biggest tactical mistake the LTTE made recently was showing 3 or 4 TRO workers using laptops in the no fire zone. That's like baiting the Sri Lankan Army to storm the no fire zone. Now there will be tension between the reporters and the soldiers as to who will get to the TRO tent first.

Saul said...

Bhairav: Dinesh is another Sinhala banda here.

I was wondering about that. Yeah, I think he sounds too 'good' to be true, i.e. too much of a parody of a 'bloodthirsty LTTE' supporter to be the genuine article.

Harshana said...

burn marks are from chemicals... what a joke...GOSL won't go for that, coz not like the LTTE, GOSL have an PR to keep. as we seen in TV tigers were pulled back under a concrete structure that they had their most casualties and it was completely burned... probably from a motar and grenade attacks.. LTTE been trapped their for days and they might had dead people around them for days ( dead bodies change their colour in few days to black )

Illusion said...

Half of the 59 and 58 is replaced by bloody indian commandos. In most of the recent battles in PTK they played a major role and they also being used to face ltte's major offensives when local SLA cowards fail to face ltte's tactical assaults. If there were no indian commandos and their new weapons the things might have changed in favour of ltte. But moda bandas thinking their brave soldiers are winning the battle all the time.

TamilPower.com said...

We lost around 600 LTTE fighters in first Elephant Pass battle and lost around 400 in Operation Frog battle in Manalaru. We lost some brave ltte leaders on those fighting as well.If the latest tragedy is true, we have to think that this is very bad luck for LTTE. My point is what's going to happen next? LTTE and Tamil innocent people are surrounded by SLAF and international community turns a blind eye. No ceasefire is going to happen and we got few days left for the sinhala newyear. Can LTTE bounce back?

Peter said...

SuthaS,

Calls for cease-fire depends on who or what is burning. What if something precious to them catches fire?

tn thamilz said...

SuthaS,

As you can see, most of us here are worried about the innocent people surrounded by thugy army now. They can hope for only 2 things to save them

1. IC get their act together and come hard on SL government not to move any further.
2. LTTE make an effort to drive the SL army back to few KMs again.

It is up to us to pressure the IC to act fast.

Illusion said...

Harshana modaya
To cause burn injuries the motor shells and grenades should blast very close to a person, but in that case it will cause lacerations or mutilate the body rather than burn injuries. Look at the photos there is no obvious injuries other than burn marks. Other point is if it was due to burning effect there cloths and hair also would be burnt. There is nothing like that. It s not due to decomposion also coz before the skin start to peel off the body will swell much and the eyes and tongue will protrude. But none of them look like that.

Peter said...

Latest from Vanni is that mustard gas was used extensively by the SLA.

If there are any medical professionals amongst us, photos should be analyzed for indications of this.

Encountering great difficulty in collecting and preserving tissue samples in the current situation.

UN and ICRC have ignored calls for investigation.

Peter said...

UN and ICRC did the same in '88 when Saddam was a 'good guy'. Thousands of Kurds were killed and nothing happened. Ironically, Saddam was finally hanged on this very charge.

Saul said...

Mustard gas? I doubt if military technology has developed to an extent that mustard gas can be used now that the fighting seems to be in such a small area. Too dangerous.

They could have used mustard gas a few months ago if anything.

Peter said...

For the benefit of some:

"Latest from Vanni is that mustard gas was used extensively by the SLA."

Saul said...

Very nice. But it won't do to infer and assumption and respond to that inference. Not for long.

Unknown said...

பாதுகாப்பு வலயத்தின் மீது நச்சு வாயு வீசி மக்களை கூண்டோடு கொல்ல திட்டமிடப்பட்டுள்ளதாக அதிர்ச்சி தகவல்கள் வெளியாகி உள்ளன.

இது தொடர்பாக முல்லைத்தீவு மாவட்டத்தில் உள்ள அலம்பில் பகுதியில் பல பாரிய குழிகள் தோண்டப்படுவதாகவும் இப்பணியினை சிறிலங்காவின் ஊர்காவல் படையினர் மேற்கொள்ளுவதாகவும் தெரிவிக்கப்படுகின்றது.

http://www.paristamil.com/tamilnews/?p=35234

Unknown said...

http://www.mndaily.com/2009/04/07/bloodletting-sri-lanka-ignored

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Unknown said...

I am a silent spectator in this blog posting one or two comments. But very active in politics and other tamil based activities.

There are few things i wanted to share.
1. In India, the following scenario may emerge - Cong + DMK would be winning 10 to 12 seats if VAIKO does not go into AIADMK alliance and 1 to 2 seats if VAIKO joins the AIADMK alliance.
2. The sikhs are angry over congress as Jagdish tytlor had been freed. They may be routed in Punjab which holds 20 seats.
3. In UP, probably Mayawati would win close to 40 seats and congress 0 and in Bihar cong's partners Lallu and Paswan may win around 30 seats and the rest would go to BJP.
4. The congress may get higher seats in Kerala - around 12, MP - around 20, Orissa - around 18 to 20.
5. It is going to be extremely difficult for Congress to form the Governemnt. But at the same time, BJP is also not doing well either. Only solace is there are parties like TDP, TC and all can join BJP if congress is not able to form the Govt.
6. What are the advantages the TAmils have in a BJP govt? - Nothing. But only thing is their party is very weak in TN and they can use their insistance on Srilankan issue to garner the popularity in TN. More over Thirunavukarasar is a Ealam supporter.
7. Actually, if Vaiko stands alone in 10 constituencies in TN, there is a possibility that he can win around 7 to 10. But the problem for him right now is he does not have money to fight DMK and ADMK. So, he is not able to take any decision. But the way JJ is treating him makes the tamils to boil and even the ADMK people do not like it.

But there is a possibility that JJ may go to congress alliance in case congress needs a majority in centre and would try to topple the Kolaingar Govt. ( In fact i was a stauch supporter of DMK and in all the elections except one i have voted for DMK only - the other one i have voted for MDMK as that is the only time they have contested in my constituency)

Having said that, the way TN was reacting some time back was very heart warming. But suddenly the "killing Kolaingar" had diverted it with the lawyer - police row and other issues like election alliances.

But we are determined... You can see a staunch supporter and member of DMK like me have turned our back and waiting for the opportunity to teach a lesson to kolaingar.

But do not doubt the Tamils in TN. They are boiling and i know lot of people who are not able to sleep properly.

Unknown said...

'But do not doubt the Tamils in TN. They are boiling and i know lot of people who are not able to sleep properly.'

Vivek,
The whole world gave up a small eelam tamil community. They secretly supported the genocide. Your above sentences give us a relief. Now sinhala criminal race may celebrate. But, earth is not flat.
One thing is sure that criminal sinhala race will never ever sleep peacefully after this genocide. Wait and see.

JWick said...

Editor BAD-ri,
You still prohibiting Sinhalese posting messages here?

Unknown said...

Peter, Badri, Laptop, upul and others ....

I am watching the war inch by inch. there are some strategic mistakes happened....

1. We were under the illusion that the IC would help - once obama wins, US would help, Hillary will help etc.. But the truth is otherwise.
And today, we are not getting help from anybody. We means Tamils including the useless tamils like us.
So how are we going to move forward. In vikatan, there is a lady swathi had written a beautiful but tearful article. The struggle was started not expecting the support of the others. It was based on our own strength.
Having said that, we need to swiftly start doing the things in different fashion. We are waiting for every event that the IC would do something. But it has not come. So, we need to get into our own ways.

1. Blow SL central bank by hook or crook. It will stumble the economy of SL.
2. Why not send 200 cadres into colombo and kill 200 SLA who are on the roads every day? Colombo is a big city. Hiding is not big problem.
3. The TID department has to be wiped out. Target all the high ranking officials. This would kill the morale of the police force.
4. If required, why not carry out a shoot out like the one happened in Mumbai.

I know, you would say that IC would ban LTTE. But already it is banned in all the important countries and there is no sign that they are lifing the ban. They are keep on indicating it. But they are giving time to SLA to use all the weapons they are procuring form PAK, china and the impotent India.
5. Blow sonia and family. If we are going to die, let us make the people who are forcing to die to die first and then lets die.
My reaction is extreme. But this is the answer for the barbarians who are not ready to understand and who are not ready to do anything.

TamilPower.com said...

Forget today's news. What's going to happen tomorrow? Any single woman can walk freely in dark without fear in LTTE rules in Tamil Eelam. Those who against LTTE hail the Srilankan victory but they don't realise that they are going to be next target including Karuna and Douglas. They will have obey to the SriLankan government in the future otherwise something will happen to them like Lasantha Wicramasinga. Karuna doesn't know that his fate is in Srilankan hand. India is taking revenge on LTTE but they don't know that Srilankan is really favor with China and Pakistan. Even the America will feel samething like India in the future that they did great mistakes against Tamils in Eelam. Wait and See.

Gayansphotography said...

dear badri...some time ago Puliga was a blog where people came to read about the war from a LTTE supporters point of view..you made mistakes (remember that 5381 SLA KILLED story?) but, nevertheless some of your posts were informative.

But since of late, the blog has deteriorated in to a Photoshop Detectives blog and now to a Blog n Indian politics... either, you need to get back to the glory days of bringing first hand battlefield news, or someone else needs to set up a such blog.

Upul said...

ltte has nothing much to loose after the chemical attacks. while important leaders like Col. Theepan have escaped, sla has broken every rule of war. innocent tamils are blown to smithrens each day with guidance from that bitch sonia. its inevitable I think Tigers will have to do fitting response. inevitably there will be massive collateral damage on the sinhala side...
Tamils cannot gain world respect being the bookworm type.... They have to be feared to gain respect, plain and simple in today's jungle.


whatever fitting response Tigers plan to do I think will be just. when Japanese used all sort of biological weapons, US used the nukes to end the war...

Gayansphotography said...

upul..... it was the LTTE who were using CS gas from Nachhikudaa... and finally (if badris imagination is correct) they got a taste of their own medicine....

Now u are talking about Nuclear weapons :-)

m.q.k said...


Sri Lankan hospital shelled in Tamil no-fire zone• Doctor says 20 people killed and 300 injured


At least 20 people were killed and nearly 300 injured yesterday when a hospital in the last area of Sri Lanka held by the Tamil Tigers was shelled in what one doctor described as the worst day of bloodshed since the start of the military campaign.

The doctor, Thangamutha Sathiyamorthy, blamed the Sri Lankan army for firing shells that landed next to two health facilities in Putumattalan,
on the northern end of the tiny strip of the Sri Lankan coastline where tens of thousands of civilians are trapped by the fighting. The military strenuously denied the allegation.

Sathiyamorthy said 22 people, including an 18-month-old child and a medical worker, were killed and 283 injured in the attack, which started soon after dawn yesterday.
He described how he found dead and wounded civilians on the site of the first blasts, which occurred as about 500 people queued beside a mother and baby clinic to receive milk powder and food rations.

"We were ready to distribute at 7.30, there were 500 people waiting, then suddenly shells fell," he said. Half an hour later he went back to assess the damage. "I saw there were bloodstains on the road, I saw there were slippers and sandals."

He said he saw five bodies still lying on the ground. "One was about a one-and-a-half-year-old child, another was a 30-year-old lady - she had four children - another one a 60-year-old man, he died while he was sleeping, and another lady died at home ... These were the bodies I found." The 39-year-old doctor, the regional director of Kilinochchi health service, said more people were killed and injured in two subsequent attacks. In the final attack, at about 11am, one member of the hospital staff was killed and another seriously injured.

"Everyone clearly knows it has come from the Sri Lankan army side ... all shells come from their direction," he said.

The International Committee of the Red Cross said one of its aid workers was killed in shelling in the region yesterday, but it was not immediately clear if it was the same incident. International media are not permitted to enter the no-fire zone to verify claims. The Sri Lankan military said it was aware that there had been a number of explosions yesterday morning, shortly after it broadcast a final offer for the rebels to surrender.

But military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara categorically denied that Sri Lankan forces were responsible for the shelling. He said troops had reported hearing explosions from within the zone but suggested they may have been Tamil Tiger mortar fire. He said no artillery had been used by government forces for weeks.

Since stepping up the military campaign since the start of the year the Sri Lankan armed forces have driven the last remnants of the once-powerful Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) into a narrow strip of land estimated to be no larger than 20 sq km. Estimates of the number of civilians trapped alongside them vary, with the UN putting the figure at about 100,000 and Sri Lankan authorities claiming it is no more than 40,000.

Yesterday Sathiyamorthy said conditions inside the no-fire zone were now desperate, with 13 people dead from starvation and 69% of children below the age of five showing signs of malnutrition.

"Of course the food supply is inadequate. Many children are at risk. Yesterday we distributed milk powder and I saw very thin children coming to the clinic," he said. He estimated that more than 5,000 people had died since the start of the latest offensive. "Every day they expect some solution because everybody was asked to go to the no-fire zone, but actually the people reached this area and unfortunately the government is shelling this area," he said. "It is a real disaster. We didn't expect this amount of disaster."

Medical staff have set up a temporary hospital in a former school to try to cope with the casualties. Sathiyamorthy said 75% of the civilians trapped in the zone were living in closely packed tarpaulin shelters and were extremely vulnerable to shelling. He estimated that about 100 people a day were being injured and that, of those, about 20 died every day in the hospital. Another 30 or 40 a day were dying outside the hospital, he said, but no accurate figure was available.

"The civilians don't have the facility to take them to hospitals so whenever that happens they are burying them by the site or near places," he said.

The Sri Lankan army believes it is close to a total victory, but faces a dilemma over how to extract the remaining LTTE fighters from among the civilians.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/09/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers-civilians

Upul said...

I did find evidence that stewart bell was on a paid visit by a racist sinhala organization. The whole info was exposed on the web. But I can't seem to find the link any more.... We need to expose this stewart bell bastard.....

Ashok Kumar said...

In Indian elections neither BJP nor the Congress likely to cross 175 seats, atleast 100 short of the majority. In fact they may end up much lower than this figure but not more.

So all the other regional and small parties will have a big role in the formation of the government.

Saddest part is even the victory of AIADMK front may not bring relief to us as both AIADMK and PMK may not hesitate to join hands with Congress if need arises.

We can feel happy only if the Congress is unable to form the government at the centre due its overall deficit nationwide.

Actually whichever front wins in Tamilnadu may not, afterall, make any difference because as I said they are not reliable.

Whether BJP makes any difference is not known but it definitely will not have the vidictiveness the Congress has towards LTTE.

We will have to discuss Indian elections here because the Indian political scenerio has a bearing on our struggle.

King Gajabha said...

All Terrorists,
Tell you so called cowardly leaders to release the innocent people.
If not,well...collateral damage ...
We will end this terror this time..for EVER!

Upul said...

Anyways, here is one entry of stewart bell being paid fees to attend spur conference in oslo, norway in 2004

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:egwCymulZwYJ:www.spur.asn.au/WAPS_Oslo_Conference_Funds.htm+%22stewart+bell%22+and+and+donation+and+rand&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Upul said...

Here stewart bell was paid 150,000 rupees for accomodation and other expenses in racist sinhala organization based conference in colombo:

http://www.amarasara.info/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9&get=last

King Gajabha said...

Jackass Upul and terrorists... WTF u dumbasses doing here.. if u really care about your PEELAM , go there and fight with your PEELAM fags..

Ashok Kumar said...

THE HINDU, April 9, 2009, Head line:

''Worries mount on LTTE threat to Sonia

No hard intelligence, but overall situation alarming

...no substantial intelligence to indicate that assasinations or attacks have been ordered by the LTTE, (but) the inflammatory language being used by the terrorist group's supporter(s) in India was a cause for concern.

Vaiko... warned India of a seccessionist movement if it did not push for an end to Srilanka's anti- LTTE campaign.

Vaiko: The sikhs coould only throw a shoe, but here we have people who can get bombs... the sea between India and Srilanka could not permanently prevent the Tamil youth from visiting that country with arms.

Vaiko: India would not remain one country if ...India did not urge him (Mahinda) to stop the war.''

(Vaiko will be under National Security Act very soon!)

AK said...

DefenceWire says the identities of the 'killed' leaders were re-established thanks to an LTTE doctor who surrendered. Badri, is there any truth about an LTTE doctor 'surrendering'? If this is true I would think GOSL would have announced about this 'surrender' before?

Upul said...

house wife sonia should have never been leader of a party let alone a country......

remember she has sicilian mafia links.

actually one time her uncle was involved in supposodely arms smuggling to ltte before gandhi incident....

Ashok Kumar said...

The Hindu:

Pottu Amman is taking overall command of the LTTE. He has reportedly appointed Velawan, the last of the LTTE's battle -hardened cadre, as the outfit's new military chief.

Upul said...

editor ram of hindu given sri lanka's top award by cbk and given a second award by mahinda needs a taste of roast chilly up his a.....

Upul said...

please contact stewart bell (sri lankan paid agent)

why he gets paid from spur:

sbell@nationalpost.com

Here is the evidence he got paid from spur to "attend" a conference:

http://www.amarasara.info/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9&get=last

Ask him how he can write unbiased news reports when he gets paid from one side to attend their conference and speaking engagements ?

AK said...

But I thought the SLA said that Pottu Amman surrendered. LOL

Upul said...

yes according to that joker "mahen" aka some sinhala modaya, pottu amman is in sla mi custody.....

Upul said...

do you all remember during tsunami, sri lankan government claimed vp was drowned to death in the tsunami ?

they said he was in mulaithivu church attending morning prayers when the water came and washed him and pottu amman away.... should we have to respond and deal crap thats posted by sla mi over and over again.....

King Gajabha said...

POTTA AMMA will be in SLA custody sooner... (dead or alive)
Mark my words... my PEELAM friends...

Upul said...

consequently, close to a 1,000 sla troops were killed during the tsunami. many were posted on the beaches of jaffna peninsula and simply washed away when the water came....

AK said...

Upul, being Sinhala does not make one a modaya. Please dont bring race into this issue. There are both Sinhala modayas and Tamil modayas, I hope you know that

Upul said...

ak, I didn't say all sinhalas are modayas... I simply said mahen the sinhala modaya.....

King Gajabha said...

hmm..I guess theres atlest one non-extremist here .. AK .. but not sure...
We should have settle this peacefully..without this bloodbath..
If extreme PEELAM modayas responsible for this..

Upul said...

ak, I am interested to know who is a tamil modaya, can you please give a list.. I am really curious.

Upul said...

gaja switching accounts I see... the rest of us are not stupid.

AK said...

Upul you are one example

King Gajabha said...

hah..ha... Upul.. you got owned!!! LAMOO

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Hi Upul

Most of them are killed only few including VP are cornered into NFZ.

Upul said...

lalith, ak and gajabha, don't waste your time here.... try to fool more of your fellow modayas at defencewire and defencent.....

Upul said...

London protest winning over the crowd (James Kirkup)


From my seat in the Telegraph's Westminster hutch, I can look out over Parliament Square to the spot where several thousand British Tamils are now into their third day of protest over the Sri Lankan government's offensive against the Tamil Tigers.

For three days, varying numbers of Tamils have been out there, banging drums, blowing horns, chanting and singing. They're accompanied by scores of police who have effectively surrounded them.

Now, you can say a lot of bad things about this protest. The police say it's illegal, because it wasn't authorised in advance. London travellers, me included, could complain about the traffic disruption caused on the first day when the Tamils blocked Westminster Bridge. And the few lonely souls here at the Commons during the recess might gripe about the noise.

But actually, the longer they're out there, the more I'm liking them. As far as I can see, they're an affable enough bunch: men, women and children, few if any of whom seem interested in confronting the police or doing anything. Whatever noise they make is less intrusive and irritating than the usual band of hysterical Trotskyites and political onanists who normally abuse their megaphones in my general direction the rest of the year. And they're clearly committed: this is Day 3 and there are once again a couple of thousand people present.

To be honest, I'm not quite sure what they want or what they think they're going to acheive. But as long as they want to stay out there, they'll have my admiration simply for sticking it out. Good luck guys. See you tomorrow?

King Gajabha said...

All Sinhala hatred tamils here,

Heres the real situation in SL ,
I have a lovely beautiful tamil girlfriend..I have lots of tamil friends here ,we party ,we work together,we went to university together.I really dont see what is your problem? why you hate sinhalese soo much?
What you say the tamils are treated badly?
They Study with goverments money,
they continue their businesses,
they work in government firms,private sector..
they have religious freedom,allmost all the institutes have document,materials in tamil...etc.etc.

That else you really need?Why the hell you cant live in peacefully like these Tamils do?

Upul said...

gajabha, stop spreading horse shit....

how many tamils get rounded up, are taken in white vans.... how many times have tamil business and homes have to be burnt to ground in riots......

we need two SEPARATE countries, one tamil, another sinhala living side by side in peace.....

Ashok Kumar said...

It looks like something drastic is going to happen: News about loud explosions in the NFZ, Vaiko's fiery outbreak, spreading news about the threat to Sonia to neutalize Tamil mood...

AK said...

[allmost all the institutes have document,materials in tamil...etc.etc.]

gajabha,

Has GOSL put up all name signs (roads/bus destinations) in Sinhla+Tamil in areas where there are sizable percentage of tamils such as Colombo and Kandy?

I would agree if you say that the name boards of all govt institutes carry the name in all three languages.. But you are going bit too far aren't you?

King Gajabha said...

upul ,
if you are taking about Bkack July, yes its something that really shouldn't have happened.. I condemn the things extremist did...but remember most of sinhalese tried to save Tamils.How many of diaspore by sinhalese.. but who started it by killing soldiers...?

Anyway..thats History...
do you still believe that there are riots against tamils? Well...about the tamils get arrested in Colombo.you know who they arrest ;)...None of my tamil friends nor their relatives got arrested...
Its LTTE they arrest..not tamils..

And Separate country...thats not gonna happen my friend..we will never give one inch..
We either live peacefully with us or keep dreaming there about ur EELAM..

Upul said...

gaja, if you try to take us down collectively, we will take you and your country down with us...

tamils are more determined to see that happen.

Upul said...

crocodile tears for 1983 is meaningless now, 200,000 tamils were killed afterward

King Gajabha said...

Upul,
See how violent you are.. I am talking about peace and you...I didnt tell that we take you down collectively..but we wont give your EELAM..

You r brain washed from ur childhood to hate us.
how many Sinhala friend u have? I guess none..

Upul said...

ashok, as mentioned by vaiko the bloodbath will spread to tamil nadu if the tamils civillians in nfz get wiped out... tamil nadu will likely destablize and we will have kashmir in the south...

thats good, because india needs to disintegrate.... its not mahatma gandhi's india any more.. its become a brahmin empire.....

AK said...

Rebellion crushed in the NFZ?

http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090409_01

This is what GOSL wanted do by using loud speaker messages into the no fire zone. They wanted to agitate the civilians to cause friction between the civilians and the LTTE.

Happy?
.

King Gajabha said...

Is this a drama ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXMlBmJncqM

Bhairav said...

From Defence.lk

According to our correspondent, LTTE has been busy with building command bunkers and other fortifications on the NFZ border close to the causeway, knowing the possibility that civilians may escape their rule in large numbers from this area.

"It is likely that LTTE is going to concentrate all its remaining field leaders and best fighting cadre in this area", he said.

Meanwhile, intelligence sources revealed that Pottu Amman has ordered his so-called police chief Ilango send all his cadre to the frontline.


Guys, above news was from defence.lk which suggests that LTTE will defend the NFZ. If LTTE does not have enough resources, they won't defend the NFZ, instead, they're going in full swing to defend it that tells the latest setback which LTTE suffered,according to govern propaganda, may have been exaggerated - losing few hundred cadres in any given bad day is norm of current war, so LTTE battle planners would have surely expected this if things went wrong.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["if you are taking about Bkack July, yes its something that really shouldn't have happened.. I condemn the things extremist did...but remember most of sinhalese tried to save Tamils.How many of diaspore by sinhalese.. but who started it by killing soldiers...?"]

A modaya asks "who started black july", as though the 3,000 murder victims in Colombo are some how guilty and deserved what they got. Any sane person will understand that a handful (perhaps 50) people in the North of the country attacked the soldiers. It had nothing to do with "Tamils", and especially Tamils in Colombo. The Sinhalese took the opportunity, like they did in the past, to kill as many innocent Tamils as possible.

There is no way anyone can blame the victims in Colombo for starting Black July. They had no connection at all to attacking soldiers in the north of the country.

The fact that after all these years Sinhalese still refuse to admit that Sinhalese are responsible for Black July shows there is absolutely no remorse at all. Even now they want to pass the blame to the victims.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Video of the no fire zone shows things are orderly and there is no panic. Vehicles moving both ways as normal, indicating petrol is still available.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM6FLvyUUZA

Rajah said...

King Gajabha,
"condemn the things extremist did..
.. but who started it by killing soldiers...?"

are your trying to justify 83 blank July ? if some one kill soldiers if jaffna is it justifying killing Tamils in Colombo and other area.

83 during riot yes some good Sinhalese families saved Tamils, but sri lankan govt forces encourage to kill Tamils & burn Tamil property.

83 was state sponsored riots. it's clearly show tamils not part of sri lanka. at least in govt point of view.

did u know non of the Sinhalese killed in jaffna or any other tamil area during the riot ? did you ever aked your self ? because all Tamils have seen Sinhalese as follow human than enemy.

if sri lankan govt. thinks Tamil too sri lankan citizen for a moment, they would not use air strike, MBRL and other heavy weapons against tamils.

reg tamil arrest : if u are Tamil and lived in Sinhalese area minimum you should spend 1 day in prison. let me tell you my story. i tamil and lived my 90% of sri lankan life in colombo. after attending a exhibition we have walk in borela side, bit later we realize there was no bus halt in borella site and we have turn and move back to rupavahini side. once we come front of BMICH, police in bmich arrest us saying your turn back because of army check post on borella side. those dump police knows there is no bus stop.we have spend one night in police station prison. police have successfully convert 7 Colombo boys to pro LTTE and hick out of country.

now days it's too bad arrested Tamil release after 3 for months, after they gave 100+ thousand rupees. arrest simple means collecting money from Tamil.

lastly you know but happen in Melbourne last week (if not search youtube for "Sinhalese mob attack on Tamil" this video was taken by Sinhalese).

after all this explanation you still want us to trust Sri Lankan govt?

Bhairav said...
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Bhairav said...

Badri, from the link you gave here, it seems SLA can easily breach the LTTE's FWL of NFZ, so what's bugging SLA now?


FYI- If Sama Kumara da Rupavahini thief can steal 5 laptops and 10 digital cameras, this new reporter on this link is surely capable of stealing all livestocks of Tamils in NFZ- Look at his face :)

Gayan said...

Hello there!
Badri,


FYI Gun powder(Used in shells and bullets) is a granular mixture of

* a nitrate—typically potassium nitrate (KNO3)—which supplies oxygen for the reaction;
* charcoal, which provides fuel for the reaction in the form of carbon (C);
* sulfur (S), which, while also a fuel, lowers the temperature of ignition and increases the speed of combustion.

When it is used(fired), it reacts with Oxygen and releases harmful gases such as SO2(Sulphur dioxide),NH3(Amonia). Small amounts of acids such as NH4OH(Ammonium Nitrate) and H2SO4(sulphuric) are also made. These are made after the chemicals in the powder reacts with H2O in human body which then causes burns and peeling wounds in human or animal bodies.

So these wounds are caused by normal bullets and artillery shells. Don't forget all these are made of chemicals and in a way all of them can be called chemical weapons.

The SL army never uses weapons prohibited to use by the UN. So quit blabbering.

m.q.k said...

Lanka ready to gas Tamils: Jayalalithaa

Chennai, April 8: Taking a serious note of the deteriorating situation in Sri Lanka with reports emanating from informed circles that the Sri Lankan government was getting ready to use poisonous gas on two lakh Tamils residing in the safe zone in that country, the AIADMK chief, Miss J Jayalalithaa today slammed and appealed to both the DMK chief and the chief minister, Mr M Karunanidhi and the central government to take immediate action in Sri Lanka.
“Tamil race itself is getting annilated in Sri Lanka. I am in receipt of constant information that the Sinhalese army which has surrounded the Tamils who have come into the safe zone have begun to throw poisonous chemical bombs at them. I am also getting information that the army has surrounded the northern region off Nandhi sea. If the army goes on an offensive there, the lives of about three lakh Tamils will be put to grave danger. This has shocked countries around the world, and Tamils have begun to demonstrate everywhere i against the attack on Tamils by the torturous Lankan army,” she said. n SNS

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["So these wounds are caused by normal bullets and artillery shells. Don't forget all these are made of chemicals and in a way all of them can be called chemical weapons."]

Bullet wounds look completely different from these wounds. You can either say they are from decomposing, from chemicals, or from thermobaric weapons. Only an idiot would say they are from bullet and artillery wounds.

The civilians in no fire zone have been killed by artillery for months and we have all seen hundreds of photographs of artillery wounds and bullet wounds. There is no comparison to the present photographs.

In summary, please use your intelligence and blame it on decomposition rather than saying these are bullet wounds that cause no blood or physical damage.

Gayan said...

Badri,
Shells just don't kill by wounding ad bleeding humans to death! They kill humans by shock and burns. look up wikipedia.
And read the chemical reaction when explosives react with oxygen. Don't show your ignorance here.

Ashok Kumar said...

Upul, the way things are shaping up, Tamilnadu could become another Kashmir or North East. But it may take some more time. Our Tamil brothers are still busy opening fan clubs to film heros and heroines.Only now slowly they are getting motivated after realizing that true heros are Tigers.

But outside Tamilnadu, you can see more unity and togetherness among Tamils, like in Bangalore or Mumbai or elsewhere. May be because they are in minority there.

If manpower is the factor affecting the struggle, may be in the coming days Tamilnadu could become a recruitment ground as Vaiko had said.

When Saudis and Afghans could come and fight in Kashmir, Why not Tamils support Tamils? Only thing is that they should develop the same level of commitment towards the cause.

I'm not Bhairav said...

Badri, what's this fuss about chemical attacks?

Everything was normal. Normally 10-15 tigers are eliminated everyday, bodies were collected over 5 days and displayed together to show the sinhala modaya's that a good harvest was done so that govt can end the war.

All LTTE leaders were only net killed. Theepan is still busy planning the counter attack.

It sounds a bit silly when you are talking about chemical attacks, when in reality no attack what-so-ever happened in PTK and entire PTK is still under LTTE!!

I'm not Bhairav said...

If manpower is the factor affecting the struggle, may be in the coming days Tamilnadu could become a recruitment ground as Vaiko had said.
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Why dont you suggest that the LTTE diaspora supporters in UK also could be recruited

Ashok Kumar said...

I'm not Bhairav,

It is Tamilnadu's proximity.

If you consider Tamilnadu and srilanka together, then Sinhalese become a minority in the region. Then as per your arguments, why a separate homeland for sinhala minority?

Then Eelam flag may fly at Colombo.

Don't worry, we will treat you equally, not like you have done to us.

If diaspora comes to the field, who will raise the voice all over the world? And funds are needed to fight...

I'm not Bhairav said...

Then Eelam flag may fly at Colombo.
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Yeah, this I'm sure will happen :)

I'm not Bhairav said...

ashokkumar2103, after SLA catch VP (currently hiding behind the civilian sheild in the NFZ), will it be Vaiko who will lead the invasion to fly the Tamil Eelam flag in Colombo?

Ashok Kumar said...

I'm not Bhairav,

Last 30 years they coud not catch Prabhakaran, are they going to do it now?

Anyway the latest tip is that now Prabhakaran is no more in the NFZ, but in the Vanni forest area. Why don't you guide the SLA there?

Then we can decide who should hoist the flag...

I'm not Bhairav said...

the latest tip is that now Prabhakaran is no more in the NFZ, but in the Vanni forest area. Why don't you guide the SLA there?
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Ha haa.. He had escaped to the jungles but still the civilians are held hostage... Ha haa.. that's a good one mate.

Hope MI sees your post so that they will withdraw the army from the NFZ perimeter to look in the jungles :)

gladiator said...

Dear friends just spend 15 minuts to read this.It needs littlebit of thinking to understand if you r a diehard follower of VP. but its your choice

[http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/04/tamils-self-determination-was-never.html]

Ashok Kumar said...

I'm not Bhairav,

Don't jump into conclusions, and feel happy. Your 'Hindu N.Ram' says that Pottu Amman is now leading the forces at NFZ.

Ashok Kumar said...

I'm not Bhairav,

From what Peter had said I understand that once army gets into those forests they will be totally lost and only Prabhakaran should send somebody to show the way out.

gladiator said...

ashokkumar2103

[From what Peter had said I understand that once army gets into those forests they will be totally lost and only Prabhakaran should send somebody to show the way out.]


this indicates your dumbness mate.

so only peter and the VP knows about that jungle

or may b others eyes get blinded as soon as they get there so that they cant read the Compass.

SLA came through all the forests my friend never herd of anyone got lost there.

game is over. you guys r just making laughing stocks. poor guys consumed years of lies and coocked news.
GOSL also have lied but we had the brais to distinguish truth from a lie .

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Sinhalese about to cry, they thought they won:

"Self Rule in North/East - End to Sinhalese domination with Tamils sharing political power, the U.S. policy in Sri Lanka"

United States Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia Richard Boucher, at hand in the Washington State Department building, and U.S. ambassador to Sri Lanka Robert Blake participating through a digital video conference from Colombo giving an audience to several U.S.-based organizations representing members of the Tamil Diaspora to discuss the humanitarian situation in Sri Lanka on April 8 strategically gave a serious message to the Rajapaksa administration in Sri Lanka.

To the U.S. a political solution means near-self rule in the North and East of Sri Lanka and the end to "Sinhalese-dominated" government giving greater and enhanced participation of ethnic minority Tamils in the affairs of the nation.

And the message became a direct hit because it was made while surrounded by "several U.S.-based organizations representing members of the Tamil Diaspora", according to the official media note issued by the State Department.

Sri Lankan officials have blamed some of the representative organizations of the Tamil Diaspora as proxies of the LTTE.

The April 8 episode at Boucher’s office in Washington surrounded by the Tamil Diaspora in the U.S. the message is a 'blunt'and 'hard' one. The message was that the U.S. is protecting the interests and rights of the Tamil minority in Sri Lanka.

gladiator said...

Sinhalese about to cry, they thought they won:

wats the big deal, we have no problem with sharing power. the only thin we wont give you is a seperate EELAM or anything leads to it.

the onlyone who dont allow u to share power is VP .

Illusion said...

[You can either say they are from decomposing, from chemicals, or from thermobaric weapons.]

Badri... As I mentioned earlier those injuries are not due to decomposition. Everyone shd understand it. Before the skin start to peel off, the body will swell much mainly abdomen and tongue and eyes will protrude out. But there are no features suggestive of it. Other thing if you closely look at the skin lesion in some ltte caders' chest the skin lesion having a reddish margin. It shows that the skin lesion occurred when ther is blood circulation (before the person die). But in decomposition (putrefaction) the margins will be pale coz there will be no blood circulation when the skin start too peel off in the dead body.

gladiator said...

what ever they say in the woshington dept of watever doesnt valid to us. anything must go through the will of the majority.did america or any country manage to stop the war??. when the suffering tamil ppl use their vote in the next election u will see wat going to happen for your seperate state ideology.

I'm not Bhairav said...

We all agree some form of devolution is neede for all parts of Sri Lanka mate.

But,
Sharing Power!= Eealm

:)

I'm not Bhairav said...
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Raja said...

Badri, Can you please post the link? "Near Self-Rule" and Self-Determination are indistinguishable. For the benefit of all the Bandas, the LTTE has been fighting unwaveringly for decades to secure self determination for the North-East. The LTTE has consistently maintained that it doesn't seek separation for the sake of separation, but seeks separation because the chavinism of the GOSL leaves no other alternative. If the GOSL wasn't opposed to "near relf rule" we wouldn't be at war. If this statement is true, the US government has basicanlly endorsed the longstanding political position of the LTTE.

I'm not Bhairav said...

During Obama's capaign it was USA, then after he won the presidency and didnt seem to do anything it was Tamil Nadu, now again its USA which will give us eealam!!!

gladiator said...

Illision,

[Badri... As I mentioned earlier those injuries are not due to decomposition. Everyone shd understand it.]

the smartest thing you can do now is push the VP to let the civillian go in order to prevent from the next gas attack.now there is no use of VP he didnt delever you anything for the past 30 years.
Y know..SLA is ruthless they will surely kill everybody in NFZ.at least u can save civilians in that way.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Article is from Asian Tribune, a completely anti-LTTE newspaper:

http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/16682

I'm not Bhairav said...

Since nowadays USA does not have much problems in its own backyard, I guess Obama himself overllok the matter of giving us eelam after "endorsing the long standing political position of the LTTE"

Peter said...

Shift in US policy would ease pressure on Tamil Diaspora. If 'illegal' is legalized costs could be cut by at least two thirds.

I'm not Bhairav said...

Y know..SLA is ruthless they will surely kill everybody in NFZ.at least u can save civilians in that way.
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I fully agree. The SLA is indeed ruthless. They will flatten the NFZ and simultaneously pass gas to kill VP. You can atleast save the civilians by releasing them now. Dont worry too much about the demise of VP, Vaiko will lead the freedom struggle from TamilNadu. Obama too has endorsed the long standing LTTE policy, it will be just a matter of time.

Keeping our country men hostage in the NFZ is no longer a necessity. Please release them now!!!

Raja said...

Very interesting, That quote is not in the official state department release. It's not clear what the source of the information for asian tribune is. Hopefully someone else will also carry the story.

Peter said...

"The SLA is indeed ruthless."

I thought LTTE is the 'most ruthless'.

I wonder where civilians will be 'released' to when 'ruthless terrorism' comes home to Colombo or Kandy.

gladiator said...

Raia

i want to tell u a little secret. If u want to insult sinhalies dont use the wards like Banda and Chena buy all these means villege boy or villege man havnt you seen most bloggers use it for them selves when they replying to you. actually articals which glorifies MR use the ward GAMIYA is almost same as the BANDA the villeger. But I havent seen anywhere u use Sakkiliya to glorify ur selves.

u see guys u dont even know what u r doing or where u a going.

please read this article for god sake.. dont try to understand just read.

[http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2009/04/tamils-self-determination-was-never.html]

Peter said...

Bandas have already started to attack KP.

All while accusing LTTE of not having a 'second in command'

gladiator said...

Peter

u r the only one who says KP is the second in command. but who cares..

Ashok Kumar said...

Badrinath,

If you do not come up with another 'breaking story' soon, the number of comments in this column may hit four figures.

Peter said...

"the LTTE plenipotentiary for international relations"

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=28881

He has authority to act without consulting VP. Even Anton Balasingham used to say he will consult VP before answering questions.

Use of the word "plenipotentiary" was deliberate.

Peter said...
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Peter said...

கொலைஞர் கருணாநிதி

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjk4Tbwv6kE

gladiator said...

Pete,

["the LTTE plenipotentiary for international relations"
]


so wat HE can do more than the Sun God couldnt do for 30 years.

[Use of the word "plenipotentiary" was deliberate]

do i need to remind u how VP manage his followers..

watever peter is the same fate for everyone.. live by gun die by gun.it doesnt change for a 'plenipotentiary'

Saul said...

Up and awake bright and early Peter. Or is its the part of the world you're in?

Anyway, the video of the 'frontlines' was pretty amazing. People driving up and down, cycling...f*king hell, not what I thought a war zone slash frontline was supposed to look like. Live and learn, I guess.

Ashok Kumar said...

Another report says that in Palali, break in air service often takes place to facilitate the traffic of planes carrying Indian military personnel.

It further says that many Indian troops move around there spending Indian currency which is accepted by the muslim traders there who sell imported gadgets. Further it says that these traders also function as anti- LTTE informers to the Srilankan army and other armed groups.

This report also talks about the presence of large number of Indians in Division 58 & 59 and about 125 dead bodies of Indian troops carried back from Pudhukudiyiruppu, now kept at Nungambakkam Hospital, Chennai. (Athirvu).

m.q.k said...

Initial results of Independent investigations conducted by “War Without Witness” confirms that Sri Lankan Government uses Chemical Weapons in Vanni (Northern Part of Sri Lanka) war front both on civilians and its enemy combatants, according to media release issued by War Without Witness. Two victims were examined by a qualified independent doctor in Vanni ‘Safe Zone’ on April 5 and the initial results have been peer-reviewed by an experienced doctor in United Kingdom.


Since the Government of Sri Lanka has banned access for all the Independent monitors, Humanitarian Workers including UN and the media, the combat zone is being isolated from the out side world, War Without Witness regrets that a comprehensive forensic/chemical analysis report could not be produced at this point of time.

War Without Witness urgently urge silent partners of Sri Lankan Government’s war on innocent Tamil civilians including United States of America, India, United Kingdom, China, Japan, Norway, Australia and United Nations to immediately dispatch independent observers to the war zone and ensure the safety of civilians by way of an immediate ceasefire and independent inquiry into this war crime.

War Without Witness urgently urge independent organisations like Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), US Bureau of International Security and Nonproliferation, UKs Department for Business, Enterprise & Regulatory Reform (BERR) and all 186 OPCW Member States to immediately dispatch independent observers to the war zone and ensure the safety of civilians by way of an immediate ceasefire and independent inquiry into this war crime.

According to Medical/Chemical Report, Chemical Substances found on the wounds are, 1) Triethanolamine (C6H15NO3), 2) Phosgene (CCl2O). Interview with those victims’ leads to the conclusion that these are type of Mustard Gas attack delivered via high explosive rocket launchers and aerial bombing. Some of the observations among the victims are ‘high vomiting’, ‘mustard-coloured blisters’, ‘closed throats’, ‘breathing difficulty’ and ‘extreme pain’.

khanthas said...

Not any Singhalese thug who spearheaded the 83’s Tamil killing spree has ever been brought to justice. This it-self shows that the black July ’83 is well pre-planned. When the justice is not done, people take arms, one good example is the French revolution.

gambit said...

khanthas said...

Not any Singhalese thug who spearheaded the 83’s Tamil killing spree has ever been brought to justice. This it-self shows that the black July ’83 is well pre-planned. When the justice is not done, people take arms, one good example is the French revolution.


How can you bring them to justice? when the chief inspector general of police was a TAMIL (rudra rajasingham)? and all the deputies (6 IGs) were Tamil. Not a single sinhalese high ranking officer was there in police at the time. So these high ranked tamil officers supported LTTE to kill some tamils(who lived amoung sinhalese) and create a chaos (make them feel that they are not safe among sinhalese)so that LTTE and justify their killings of the army and start a war.

m.q.k said...

gambit...GOOD FAIRY TALE..

khanthas said...

Yeah, Gambit, everyone has his truth which suits him. Even a schizophrenic. Yes, Tamils were burned alive by other Tamils in 56 to create chaos so that the two year old Prabharan will be able start the war in 83…

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Which news source confirmed Amuthap was killed? Was it voice of tigers or a website?

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Also, has there been any Tamil news source that has commented on the fighting from April 1st to April 5th? If so, please post a link here.

gambit said...

khanthas said...

Yeah, Gambit, everyone has his truth which suits him. Even a schizophrenic. Yes, Tamils were burned alive by other Tamils in 56 to create chaos so that the two year old Prabharan will be able start the war in 83…


Im not talkin about 56 ... I sed in 83 the IGPs were tamil all the top ranking officers..VP obviously had support from them to start the war as I explained earlier...

PS.. I know lot of Sinhalese families who hid Tamils in their houses to protect them from the Mob..I even know the family who protected muralitharan(cricket player)...

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Mexico will not support LTTP

Following talks in Mexico City between Foreign Secretary, Dr Palitha Kohona and senior Mexican government officials, including Vice Minister Gomez-Robledo, Mexico has reassured Sri Lanka of its firm support at international fora, including the UN Security Council. Mexico is holding the presidency of the Security Council in April.

Mexico confirmed that they do not have any intention of permitting the Sri Lankan situation to be placed on the Security Council agenda, as it does not pose a threat to international peace and security.

Dr. Kohona explained how the LTTE had cleverly 'herded' thousands of civilians into the tiny no-fire-zone in the north east of Sri Lanka, while pulling back its combatants and weapons also into it with the intention of sheltering behind this human shield and using these thousands of human hostages to save itself. He repeated the call of the Government to the LTTE to let these hostages go (which will automatically result in a cessation of hostilities) and lay down their weapons for the sake of the civilians. The Mexican authorities expressed their understanding of the dilemma confronting Sri Lanka in view the fiendish circumstances deliberately manipulated by the LTTE and offered to do all possible to bring the civilians out to safety.

Mexico also expressed its appreciation of the large quantities of food and medical relief supplies being sent by the Government to the people held hostage by the LTTE with the assistance of the UN and the ICRC. Dr. Kohona also provided a detailed briefing on the processing procedures for IDPs escaping from the LTTE, the raft of relief measures being undertaken to make their lives easier in the relief villages, the access provided to NGOs and INGOs, the continuing engagement with UN officials, the advanced planning for the early return of IDPs to their own villages and towns, including demining and the ongoing work to re-establish inclusive democracy in the North.

The Mexican authorities saw the parallels between their own experience in Chiapas and the negative impact of a cleverly manipulated propaganda machine. They also expressed hope for deepening and strengthening the bilateral relationship, including through the exchange of high level visits.

Lalith Kuruwita said...

1983 Killing was organised by powerful UNP government ministers like Cyril Mathiew & JSS, Sirikotha.

None of Sinhalese civillian harrassed Tamils. Actually Sinhala people protected Tamils from UNP led Thuggers.

Unfortunately LTTP used it as a propaganda to make anger against Sinhala people in the North & East and to get young tamils to join LTTP.

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Do not believe in War Without Witness.

This is a LTTP support website by Some American Tamils.

m.q.k said...

sinhalese are good with twisting history..after a few years..the new fairy tale would be 1983 riot was tamil killing sinhala people..mass scale sinhala resettlement on previously tamil area have been goin on for years..its a systematic plan to erase tamil identity from sri lanka..they burned jaffna library..and said it was accident..whats ur excuse...terrorist reading to much books..

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Hi Bdrinath

Since you do not have favourable war news, you have started to analyse photos. This is now about 2 weeks old and ther is no any interest.

Why do not you start to analyse what happenned from Mavil Aru?

or

How to develop North & East afetr the war.

gambit said...

well as I sed, I personally know a lot of Sinhalese families who protected tamils..which U cannot deny.. if you dont know that and deny that there is nothing more to talk about..

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