In the photo above, why is his chest blurred out? There is no sign of a bullet wound, but you can see a rash or burn around his neck and the blurred area, plus his skin is peeling off on many places.
Why did the Sri Lankan government blur out the faces in the top row, but not the faces below:
What are they trying to hide by blurring out the faces? There are no signs of bullet wounds there, and they obviously aren't hiding their identity, because other faces are being shown. It is possible they are trying to cover up signs of peeling and burnt skin, which would be most visible on the exposed faces.
What are they trying to hide by blurring out the faces? There are no signs of bullet wounds there, and they obviously aren't hiding their identity, because other faces are being shown. It is possible they are trying to cover up signs of peeling and burnt skin, which would be most visible on the exposed faces.
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My 'Post a comment' box bcame half now. Becase of that I am unable to enter the verification code. I do not know some problem in my stolen laptop from Vanni.
Velavan Master,
I have 5 stolen laptops from Vanni. Do you want to buy one? Labai
Guys, "Pulikalinkural" has updated its online version now.
Bhairav,
Peter elithiya seithy pulikalinkural uruthipaduthiyathu.
Badrinath a few suggestions
1) DO NOT RELEASE SENSITIVE INFORMATION
2) THERE ARE ALOT OF SYMPATHISERS OF SRI LANKA
WHO MASQURADE AS CONCERENED ABOUT THE EELAM PEOPLE A GOOD EXAMPLE IS ELLANFORCE.
3) IT ALREADY KNWON THAT THE COMMANDERS HAVE ESCAPED.
4) VERY SOON EELAM WILL GET HER INDEPENDENCE
5) SRI LANKA IS GOING TO DISINTEGRATE INTO CHAOS DUE TO THEIR OWN DOING. HENCE GET READY FOR THE SHOW.
http://www.innercitypress.com/unscsri5lanka040709.html
Inner City Press: Given that there are about 100,000 civilians trapped in Sri Lanka between the Government and the Tamil Tigers, it is unclear whether you are asking actually for a ceasefire. Have you asked the Government to not try to go into the conflict zone in a way that can’t hurt the civilians? What is the UN’s thinking on Sri Lanka at this time?
S-G Ban Ki-moon: I have spoken on many occasions with President [Mahinda] Rajapaksa of Sri Lanka. As you know, I have sent OCHA [Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs] Under-Secretary-General, John Holmes. Even most recently, I have spoken with President Rajapaksa on the necessity and importance of protecting the human rights of civilians who have been trapped in the fighting zones. I again hope that the Sri Lankan Government takes all necessary measures so that these civilians can move freely, without any danger, without threat, to the safety zone. At the same time, the LTTE [Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam] must fully cooperate with the Government in allowing these civilians so that they can move freely from this war zone. These are basic human rights and basic humanitarian matters.
http://webcast.un.org/ramgen/ondemand/stakeout/2009/so090407pm1.rm?start=00:13:00
http://www.innercitypress.com/unscsri5lanka040709.html
[Laptop Kumara Ramawickrama said...
100,000 people protested on 31 January in Westminster. Medias did not give importance. Now less than 10,000 blocked the road, all medias give significance. This westminister protest is the front page Head-line in the two free newspapers distributed in all the London underground stations (London Lite and TheLondon paper). Hundreds thosands of underground commuters must have read thug lanka's poison gas news in these two free newspapers today. Now sinhala animals cannot face any local people in western countries. Because, they will be looked like criminals by western people. ..]
Dear Laptop,
Can you get the weblink of those news papers (or even scanned copies of the articles), and pass them to the tamilnet, tamilcanadian, puthinam, etc.?
These articles should be emailed to major news agencies like BBC, CNN, AFP, Reuters, AP, .... and news ppapers, radio/TV stations, etc. around the world.
My feeling is that these animals do not care any more. They think that they're already at the bottom and cannot go any lower.
They may alos think that INDIA is also in this GAME 100%. So, we'll go down with INDIA!!
INDIA HAS TRANSFORMED ITSELF FROM MAHATMA GANDHISM TO HITLERISM (NAZISM).
India is now ruled and ruined by Italian mafia led by a godmother!
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Navindran Said,
"THERE ARE ALOT OF SYMPATHISERS OF SRI LANKA
WHO MASQURADE AS CONCERENED ABOUT THE EELAM PEOPLE A GOOD EXAMPLE IS ELLANFORCE."
Another good example...Navindran..lol
Tharu, the sad part is now that your propaganda machine has "killed" off all the LTTE commanders, your people are going to start to ask what next. The sad part is MAHINDHA MAMA HAS NO SOLUTIONS TO THE COUNTRY'S PROBLEMS. SO SAD SO VERY SAD.
Now that the military has stalled and the government is in a fix, its time to bide patience. Desperate Sri Lankan propaganda will try its level best to divert its people's attention from the real problems. Sadly it will fail.
What was the misfortune for the Sri Lankan state is that it could have carried out this charade had things been okay. However in pre 2001, the world was not heading towards a depression, yet the sri lankan economy went bankrupt. Today its going to be really horrible.
Many people hear debated on what DBS said. I think the LTTE has sucessfully used it for what he had been intended to do. Defencewire has collapsed and thats why there is a need to censor comments even when they claim to be winning. Same bullshit on newspapers cannot be repeated in cyberspace. No white van here. A UN award for Lasantha is another crushing and humiliating defeat for Mahindha.
The moment i read some blog posting about fear of leaders dying, I knew it was a fear mongering excercise that has completely failed.
The LTTE strategy has been simple to see. Its been something it has played out for a while. You never fight your enemy on his strenghts. Mahindha has only used brute force sucessfully. The LTTE did state that 20 000 soldiers have perished in 2 years, hence the government's counter propaganda had to be some sucessful kill.
The LTTE has kept its war victories and other activities silent. I mean do you think the eelam people are only reading it. What is important is to be patient. ALl things are bearing fruit and the very freedom from occupation of the people of eelam are comming soon.
In all honesty i would never wanted the kind of suffering that sri lanka are going to go through to happen. However you reap what you sow. The country will disintegrate into chaos. Hence upon independence, its vital that a national conscription be announced and a pattern similar to Israel be adopted.
Be sure like Argentinian invasion of falklands, harresment after independence is a certainty. The problem like in melbourne, these guys have only viloence as a means to show that they can achieve anything.
Badri, according to yours and Peters' "analysis" the bodies look burnt not because of a chemical attack but due to the decomposed state because SLA have collected 15 bodies every day and kept for 5 days until they collected 60. But I think both of you are wrong. SLA has used a chemical attack indeed
LTTE confirms that SLA had used chemical attack
However your analysis of only 60 fighters were killed still holds..
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The Tiger sources neither confirmed the type of the chemical weapon nor said anything on the casualties claimed by Colombo.
Not matching with their tall claims, Colombo's websites have released comparatively fewer photographs of LTTE combatants it killed in action this time. Yet, the released photographs were enough for viewers of forensic experience to suspect the use of chemical weapons.
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=28969
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The gist of the story is SLA used chemical attacks and still managed to kill only 60!!
Sri Lankan protest heads into third day in London
LONDON (AFP) — A protest outside Britain's parliament by Tamils urging London to intervene in Sri Lanka's conflict stretched into a third day, with hundreds refusing to move despite police warnings.
Seven people were arrested on Tuesday after repeated scuffles with police, who warned they could be forced to make a "huge number of arrests" if protesters refused to leave the site they have occupied since Monday afternoon.
But 300-400 protesters remained at the site in the early hours of Wednesday, police said, from a peak of about 3,000.
The overwhelmingly peaceful protestors are calling for an immediate ceasefire in Sri Lanka and want former colonial ruler Britain to intervene with Colombo to protect the Tamil people, who they say are being targeted.
Many said they would not disperse until they receive a firm commitment of action from the British government. "We will stay here as long as the killing goes on," protester Guhan Gukendharan told AFP.
Police have warned that they could be forced to make "a huge number of arrests" unless the demonstration is dispersed.
It is illegal under a law which prohibits demonstrations close to parliament without prior police permission.
Scuffles flared Tuesday as police confiscated flags which they said represented the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), whom Sri Lankan forces are fighting and who are a banned organisation in Britain.
Protestors insisted the red flags they were flying were Tamil national flags, not connected to the Tigers, and accused the police of brutality.
London Ambulance Service said it had treated 10 people at the scene for minor injuries, of which five were taken to hospital.
"The police have been terrible today," said Yalini Thayaparan, 34, who was at the protest Tuesday with her 15-year-old daughter and other family members. "It's really, really hard, they push all the ladies, they hit lots of boys."
The noisy demonstration -- filled with drums and chanting -- began Monday afternoon. Police deployed early Tuesday to clear away the protestors blocking Westminster Bridge and surrounding streets.
Passions were running high with many protestors saying they had family members who were killed or wounded in recent violence in Sri Lanka, although the demonstrators insisted their action would remain peaceful.
"It's because of the bombing and killing in Sri Lanka. They have started to use chemical bombs in Sri Lanka," said Nathan Kumar, chairman of the British Tamil ForumNOW THE MESSAGE IS OUT FOR THE WORLD TO SEE...
Four lifeboats were scrambled after two protestors jumped into the nearby River Thames. They were taken to hospital.
Police chief Jerry Savill said his officers were showing restraint. "We've been remarkably tolerant really," he told the BBC, explaining that police had to be careful because women and children were also among the demonstrators.
The demonstration was staged as Tamil Tiger rebels face a final assault by government forces in Sri Lanka, who have killed at least 525 rebels in several days of fierce fighting in the northeast of the island.
Sri Lankans also held protests in Norway, where dozens of Tamils blocked the entrance to the premier's office in Oslo, calling on the nation to act in its role as mediator in the conflict.
British Foreign Secretary David Miliband has said he was "deeply" worried by reports of civilians being trapped by fighting in Sri Lanka, adding: "The need for a humanitarian ceasefire is now even more urgent."
The United Nations and other foreign aid organisations say as many as 150,000 civilians may still be trapped in the war zone, although the Sri Lankan government insists the figure is less than half that.
Peter said...
Laptop,
It is real me. Sadly, news about Lt. Col. Amuthab is true.
Updated on http://twitter.com/PeterRatna
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Don't believe it. If this is the case, why is it not on Tamilnet. I refused to believe it. There is going to be a counter attack very soon and all SLA will be killed very soon.
I'm not Bhairav said...
However your analysis of only 60 fighters were killed still holds..
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The Tiger sources neither confirmed the type of the chemical weapon nor said anything on the casualties claimed by Colombo.
Not matching with their tall claims, Colombo's websites have released comparatively fewer photographs of LTTE combatants it killed in action this time ...]
The Tamilnet only says that GOSL is showing much less bodys. Tamilnet does not say that the LTTE disputed the total. My view is that in fact 400-500 may have perished in the chemical attacks. Only a few are shown as the MILDER samples of chemical attacks. The remaining bodys could show MUCH WORSE effects of chemical attacks.
I also fear that if the IC does not comment on this chemical attack, the GOSL will soon use the same chemical attacks on civilians in the so-called "no fire zone".
Tamils MUST give much publicity to this chemical attacks so that the civilains in the NFZ can be protected.
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//tn said:Let me ask you this, how many self immolations happened in those days? As far as I can remember, none. Last time when someone in tamil nadu self immolated himself was in anti hindi agitation//
Thanks for confirming the doubts I had.Self immolations are such a norm in Tamilnadu and you dont need to go back to anti hindi protestation's for self immolation.Let me brush your memory.
We had self immolation's when MGR died \ we had self immolation's when Vaiko was kicked out of DMK - It was another story altogether that he went again to Karuna after some time showing to the world that the lives of 4 who died meant absolutely ZILCH to him \ We had self immolation's when Rajiv was murdered.
Coming back to your question - how many self immolations in 1983,if I remember right it was 23+.Search on google you will find absolute numbers.But the noise then was not limited to Chennai alone.Tamils living in Mumbai\Delhi too made a huge hue and cry.Thats explicitly why I say,what we see now is nothing.
Classic case of shooting in one's own foot - Hope you get my point.
Seems details of this battle coming out slowly
Think and talk more about destruction.. it will achieve you nothing!
Laptop,
Let me tell you,all this news you ask me to translate is absolute hogwash and no iota of truth in this.Why would India want to indulge in a direct war and that too when we have our elections coming now.Even if 1 soldier is captured alive,India would be caught in a embarassing situation.And why does this info need to come from French media - doesnt the tamil media in Srilanka know this?Or you thnk Tamil media in srilanka has lost its credibility and takes umbrage from French media to give some authentication to this BS.
As per news from a French media,in the battles occuring in srilanka's northeast,Indian army soldiers have been positioned in 2 divisions and also Indian army officer's are commanding Srilankan soldier.
Srilankan army's 58th division suffered huge damages during the battles with LTTE.It suffered lot of casualties.As a result this division faced shortage of soldiers and the Indian soldiers are attached to this division.
Likewise,even the 59th division comprises of almost 50% Indian soldiers.
Bodies of close to 125 Indian soldiers,slained in the ongoing battles against Tiger's in PTK has been kept in Nungambakkan medical college hospitals in Chenna,as per hospital sources.
Hope I passed your test LOL.
INDIAN..CONGRESS BOOT LICKER..THIS IS FOR U...
Pro-Eelam groups target DMK, Congress
CHENNAI: The plight of the Tamils in Sri Lanka would have its echo in the run-up to the Lok Sabha polls in Tamil Nadu. Leading the campaign against the DMK and its ally, the Congress, will be Pazha Nedumaran of the Tamizhar Desiya Iyakkam. He will head a group of pro-Eelam associations.
These organisations would use posters, banners and election meetings to target the Tamil Nadu government as well as the Central government for their inability to bring about an end to the misery of the Sri Lankan Tamils.
About a hundred organisations from all over Tamil Nadu will shape up a state-wide campaign in Tiruchy on Saturday to defeat the DMK-Congress combine.
The participants include Periyar Dravidar Kazhagam, Tamil Desa Poduvudamai Katchi, various Tamil associations, Periyarist forums and students’ alliances.
The common cause that has bound them together is: “Defeat the DMK and Congress.” Nedumaran said the DMK and Congress had been enacting dramas on the Lankan Tamils issue.
General secretary of Periyar Dravidar Kazhagam, Viduthalai Rajendran said an active campaign would be undertaken against the DMK and the Congress.
State organiser, Karuthurimaigal Pathugappu Kazhagam, Seetayin Maindan, said the meeting would also see a convergence of creative writers and artists.
DMK’s pet slogan of “Veezhvadu Naamaga Irundalum Vaazhvadu Tamizhaga Irukattum (Even if we are downed, let Tamil live)’ would be rephrased as: ‘Veezhvadu Tamizhanaga Irundalum Vaazhvadu Nam Kudumbamaga Irukattum (Even if Tamils are downed, let our family alone live),” Maindan said.
Other groups like the Tamizh Illangyar Peravai and the Manavar Peravai are also set to begin their campaigns against the DMK and the Congress.
It is easy.. LTTE can show a photo of Theepan if he is live?
Also, LTTE can issue photos of all the claimed to be dead cadres with a copy of Pulligal Photos in their hands.
So, your panic would be over.
You know what, if you do not have a good Photoshop guy, it would be very difficult.
Now come into terms!
Unfortunately, with the chemical attack confirmed, it is likely that the gloves will come off and things will go to another level. I won't be surprised if civilians onboth sides start becoming targets.
Mahinda(n) said..
the GOSL will soon use the same chemical attacks on civilians in the so-called "no fire zone".
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Some of the 2000+ civilians who escaped the LTTE's safe custody in the NFZ recently had confirmed that the SLA has already started using the chemical attacks on the civilians
The fact that there has been so much silence, and then after 5 days the chemical aspect has been confirmed, as well as a statement from Lawrence that he just narrowly escaped from the chemical attack, means a lot of the original story is most likely true. There are probably high casualties and several senior leaders possibly killed. The LTTE should not remain silent on it. They should clearly inform the public what exactly happened, and what the losses were, so that rumors can be put aside.
[Now that the military has stalled and the government is in a fix, its time to bide patience.]
So I guess under your definition, if the SL Army does not kill about 100 tigers per day, it is 'stalled'. Heheh yeah soon it will be permanently stalled because there won't be 100 tigers left.
Badri Said...
Unfortunately, with the chemical attack confirmed, it is likely that the gloves will come off and things will go to another level. I won't be surprised if civilians on both sides start becoming targets.
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Badri, that should have been my sarcastic comment.
I am serioulsly now beginning to beleive you are actually Mahen..
Monkeynath,
Did you forget that you are the one who first speculated about a possible chemical attack, out of your sheer innocent of not knowing how to assess battlefield wounds?
They picked it up from you and stuck up their walls, so now you believe that because 'they' tell that it is indeed true!
How self-convincing!
It is like Eelam!
I also agree with Badri, that some ltte leaders might have been killed but it definitely looks like Col. Theepan wasn't one of them....
Upul, check with Peter. He has inside info from tiger hierarchy. I'm sure the leaders who got killed are of either Lieutenant rank or below
DBS Jeyaraj as we all know is a whore, who does the services of whoever pays him. He now works for the dailymirror and needs to sell newspapers, hence all these fancy, creative stories. None of the details he claims is verifiable. When there is so limited contact between tamils in the nfz and canada, how can dbs jeyaraj have such access.
dbs jeyaraj is trying to take revenge on the ltte, since a misguided ltte supporter in canada broke his leg and beat him up badly. While I don't condone such actions, the fact is that it happened and ltte never ordered that etc. jeyaraj then wasn't famous etc. so i think that was publicity stunt then by Jeyaraj to gain popularity.
I actually doubt his leg was broken.
I also begin to doubt he ever got fired from the Hindu for supposodely revealing the VVT massacre by IPKF.
I should mention lower ranking leaders get killed in heavy/big battles. its inevitable.
Support for Tigers in Tamilnadu is definitely on the rise. Dozens of self immolations, students and lawyers protests, and the talk about supporting Eelam Tamils by all political parties prove it beyond doubt.
Could anybody have expected people carrying Prabhakaran's portraits and Eelam flags openly and marching in the roads of Chennai, Bangalore and other parts of Tamilnadu sometime back?
After Rajiv's assasination, LTTE had remained an 'untouchable' name. But it has changed now. Even a commom man started talking about the kilings of Tamils. Finally, Rajiv's ghost has stopped haunting the Tigers.
Imagine if a sizable section of the youth among this seven crore population started actively supporting the Tigers...
But as rightly said, we should never trust any politician here. Only Vaiko is fully commited to the Eelam cause. May be Ramasoss will just support it orally without showing much in action. But the Communist Party of India is fully supporting the Eelam struggle. D.Pandiyan of CPI is the person who started the current wave of protests.
By the by, Why nobody is talking seriously about Indian troops involvement? Is it not atrocious and shocking? Is it because that nobody wants to touch the 'big brother' inspite of whatwever bullying he is doing?
Badri,
One thing I have to disagree is that the ltte has no need to quash these current rumours. there is good reason to make the sla feed on its own propaganda and think top ltte leaders were killed.
but as long ltte cadres on the ground know the true situation there is no impact on ground strength/morale.
["Did you forget that you are the one who first speculated about a possible chemical attack, out of your sheer innocent of not knowing how to assess battlefield wounds?"]
No, there were many reports in Tamil of a chemical attack prior to me writing this article.
Badri, dont over do. You'll blow up the cover
Upul Said...
misguided ltte supporter in canada broke his leg and beat him up badly. While I don't condone such actions, the fact is that it happened and ltte never ordered that etc.
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also the fact is that a few misguided LTTE supporters killed Rajiv and it happened and ltte never ordered that etc
["One thing I have to disagree is that the ltte has no need to quash these current rumours. there is good reason to make the sla feed on its own propaganda and think top ltte leaders were killed."]
If the stories are a lie, then the SLA already knows they aren't true. There is no benefit by LTTE keeping silent then.
1) The SLA obviously knows the truth (whatever the truth may be). No benefit for LTTE to remain silent.
2) The LTTE fighters obviously know the truth. No benefit for LTTE to remain silent.
3) The no fire zone civilians probably know the truth. No benefit for LTTE to remain silent.
4) The Tamil diaspora doesn't know the truth but is hearing rumors from here and there. Silence is creating a lot of problems, but is making diaspora more active. Probably not the best way to make them active. Better to inform them of the realities.
5) The International community doesn't know the truth. Small gain by remaining silent, but overall I don't think it is worth it since the IC isn't going to help anyway.
Over all I don't see a benefit by remaining silent. Rather it looks like something happened and they are speechless.
Even after the LTTE confirmed the chemical attack, no mention of it on Puthinam or Sankathi, and no clarification on what happened and what losses occurred.
1) The SLA obviously knows the truth (whatever the truth may be). No benefit for LTTE to remain silent.
When the head makes up a lie, the tail can't figure it out and vice versa. as you have noted the lies in defence.lk and army.lk don't add up... when the army lies overboard, they quickly loose comprehension of what is the truth or is self-delusion. this self-delusion is propagated within the military and hence is good smoke screen for the ltte.
it makes no sense for the ltte to get sla out of self-delusion if its to their advantage.
["When the head makes up a lie, the tail can't figure it out and vice versa. as you have noted the lies in defence.lk and army.lk don't add up... when the army lies overboard, they quickly loose comprehension of what is the truth or is self-delusion. this self-delusion is propagated within the military and hence is good smoke screen for the ltte."]
In my opinion, it increases the morale of the Sri Lankan army when they believe 10 or 15 leaders have been killed. High morale is something all armies want.
Suppose Shavendra Silva had been killed. This would boost the morale of LTTE fighters. But if it was then revealed that Shavendra Silva was still alive and it was a lie, it would lower the morale.
Same is the situation with the Sri Lankan army.
but in the current scheme of things, even if ltte comes out and disputes the sla story, will the regular sla soldier get to know the tiger side of the story ?
it will surely be censored.
the sinhala populace in this respect is completely fed this delusion...
yes, it will increase morale of the sla, but with many soldiers on the front supposodely with less than 3 months of trainning... that might be a good thing...
Are the Sri Lankan forces using Chemical Weapons?
The Australasian Federation of Tamil Associations (AFTA), the peak body representing the Tamil Australians and New Zealanders, would like to bring to the attention of the Australian and New Zealand Governments, Human Rights and Aid Agencies, the general public and the media about the possible use of chemical weapons by the Sri Lankan security forces in their genocidal attacks on the Tamil people in Sri Lanka.
In a report on the 6th of April in the official website of the Sri Lankan Ministry of Defence
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090406_01 , there is a detail account of the last battle where 420 LTTE fighters were claimed to have been killed.
Photographic evidence for this victory has been given in this report. A close examination of the photographs of the supposedly dead LTTE cadres reveals that there are no signs of usual gun fire wounds on their bodies. The faces and the exposed limbs of these dead appear as if the bodies have been pulled out of a burnt out house. The only wounds on these bodies are pealed out skin. The released photographs are enough for viewers with forensic expertise to ascertain the use of chemical weapons in this instance.
In August 2001, Sri Lankan media claimed that the Sri Lanka Army has acquired an infantry weapon with a chemical warhead whose use has been shunned internationally except by Russia due to the risk to civilians. The weapon – along with other fuel air mixture weapons - has been used by Russian troops in Chechnya, where human rights groups have long criticised the indiscriminate nature of the weapon which has resulted in heavy civilian casualties and horrific injuries. Now LTTE sources claim that Sri Lankan forces extensively used chemical weapons on LTTE combatants at Puthukkudiyiruppu during the weekend, quoting Lawrence, a senior commander of the LTTE, who personally encountered the attack and escaped.
Sri Lankan commanders claim now that the rest of the LTTE cadres are hiding among the civilians in the 17 sq km narrow land strip along the eastern coast, supposed to have been declared a “safe zone” by the Sri Lankan government. According to UN estimates, more than 150,000 civilians are caught up in this area for several weeks now and the Sri Lankan security forces claim that it is a matter of days before they rescue these civilians from the LTTE.
The Sri Lanka had dropped cluster and phosphorous bombs in the past and continues to use multi-barrel artillery shells on its ‘own’ citizens resulting in over 3000 civilians dead and over 10,000 injured since 20 January 2009. If Sri Lankan forces have now used chemical weapons in the latest battle, they have violated all the international conventions governing the conduct of wars. Now there is the danger of the Sri Lankan forces using the same tactic in their stated attempt to ‘finish’ the LTTE who are reported to have moved into the ‘safety zone’ amongst civilians, a Rwandan style massacre of civilians will be inevitable.
On behalf of the Tamil Australians and New Zealanders, AFTA appeals to the international media to investigate this matter and give due exposure the heinous crimes committed by Sri Lanka against the Tamil people.
AFTA calls on the governments of Australia and New Zealand and the international community at large to pressure Sri Lanka to ensure they conform to international conventions on warfare and the humanitarian law governing armed conflicts and agree to an immediate ceasefire, allow humanitarian access to the civilians under siege and negotiate with the LTTE, a political solution addressing the right to self-determination of the Tamil people.
Solution to Tamil grievances essential By Jehan Perera
Column: Pursuit of Peace
Published: April 08, 2009
Colombo, Sri Lanka — The Tamil people in Sri Lanka are today disempowered and silenced as never before. A war is being fought, but not for their hearts and minds. More than 60,000 of them are presently in government welfare camps in the north, having broken free of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam and fled.
A similar number, or perhaps twice as many, are trapped in a 20-square-kilometer zone that the government has designated as a safety zone, but which is still under LTTE control. In the meantime heavy fighting rages virtually in their very midst.
Undoubtedly the worst affected of all the Tamil people living in the country are those trapped in the north and unable to get out. Their silence and inability to express their opinion in the north, amidst the terrible fighting, is inevitable. However, the silence of Tamil people elsewhere in the country, even in Colombo, is notable.
Their silence is accompanied by the utterances of some Sinhalese nationalists which are not in consonance with life in a plural society. So far there is no answer to such harmful polarization, either from the Tamil people in Sri Lanka or from the rest of Sri Lankan society, including the political opposition.
There are many reasons for this. The LTTE’s strategy of infiltrating the civilian population and launching terrorist attacks has led government security forces to view all Tamils with a measure of suspicion. The LTTE cadres have launched a variety of terror attacks in Colombo and elsewhere after posing as regular Tamil civilians.
The government’s counter-terror strategy has been to regularly check identity papers and do search and cordon operations in Colombo and elsewhere. Inevitably, the target of such investigations is those of Tamil ethnicity, whose first priority will be to keep a low profile and stay out of trouble.
However, the reluctance to speak up and criticize the government goes beyond the fear of being suspected as an LTTE cadre. Even those who are suspected of opposition to the government’s current military strategy are liable to find themselves at the receiving end of punitive measures.
In this context, civil society groups have expressed concern about the recent arrest of Shantha Fernando, a senior official of the National Christian Council and a human rights activist. He was reportedly detained at the international airport as he was about to board a flight to India to take part in a seminar on the humanitarian crisis in Sri Lanka. His detention has apparently been justified by his possession of material that the government considers adverse to the country's security interests.
There are two other instances of arrest and detention that would chill the expression of public opinion. One was the arrest of the editor of the popular Sudar Oli newspaper, N. Vithyatharan, on the grounds that he had information concerning the most recent suicide attack on Colombo by the air wing of the Black Tigers. While any suicide attack must be condemned as morally reprehensible, the media in a democratic country, even one at war, has a right to seek information regarding such incidents in order to disseminate it to the public.
Another incident that could have a deterrent effect on the expression of views on issues of war and peace was the arrest and detention for a short period of the owner of the Poobalasingam bookstore, a well known shop that sells publications in the Tamil and English languages. This was on the grounds that the shop sold an issue of Ananda Vikadan, a Tamil magazine published in Chennai. The issue in question included a story on the LTTE air attack on Colombo, with photographs of LTTE members.
Ananda Vikadan is a respected family magazine that has been imported into Sri Lanka from India for over 30 years. Instead of arresting the bookshop owner the government could simply have confiscated this particular edition of the magazine if it had found it objectionable.
The three arrests and detentions outlined above are indicative of the shrinking democratic space for dissent and alternative perspectives. While emphasizing the need for a political solution, the rule of law must be put in place for the peaceful coexistence of society.
At a seminar on conflict transformation, the present situation in Sri Lanka was compared to a boiling pot of water; as the water boils, steam forms; although a lid may be applied to the pot pressure will build inside the pot. The steam will eventually escape, perhaps even burning the hand that seeks to forcibly hold down the lid.
The important point is that the fire beneath the pot is fuelled by political grievances, the root cause of the conflict. A lid will only contain the steam, the symptoms of the conflict – and that too only temporarily – but not the cause. The conflict will continue until the heat is extinguished by meaningful political dialogue that leads to a transformative solution acceptable to all Sri Lankans.
The presentation of India’s Punjab conflict has relevance to Sri Lanka today. The Indian counter-insurgency strategy was effective because it succeeded in winning over the majority of the Sikh population to the political process.
Once a solution was found that was acceptable to the majority of Sikhs, they were divided between those who wanted democratic peace and a dwindling minority who advocated violence. The civilian Sikh population rejected the Sikh militants as the opportunities presented by the political process outweighed continued violence. Only through the political engagement and involvement of the affected population was the Indian state able to definitively win its counter-insurgency campaign.
In Sri Lanka, on the other hand, the political process and hearts-and-minds strategy appears to have gone dormant again. The government’s entire effort seems to be aimed at a military defeat of the LTTE and winning provincial elections in the south of the country. But winning the peace means winning the hearts and minds of the Tamil people, even as the Indian government did in the Punjab.
For peace in Sri Lanka, the government needs to win over the majority of Tamil people to the belief in a political solution and that the government is truly concerned about their welfare.
Even while the Sri Lankan government takes steps to eliminate the LTTE as a military and terrorist power, it needs to reaffirm time and time again, and with deeds on the ground, that a just political solution for the Tamil people’s grievances is necessary to resolve the ethnic conflict. The government also needs to make it clear that it stands for a just political solution in which human rights are protected for all, and that it will support the work of those who stand for such a future Sri Lanka.
Editor: "Badrinath" said...
Suppose Shavendra Silva had been killed. This would boost the morale of LTTE fighters. But if it was then revealed that Shavendra Silva was still alive and it was a lie, it would lower the morale.
Same is the situation with the Sri Lankan army.
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Exactly we should demorilize the singala army and moda bandas. Lets put some photos of Col Theepan and our heroes on TamilNet so that we can demorilize them.
Sinhella Regime needs to desperately show that LTTE is a spent force, so that
(1)Rajapakse regime Could satisfy Congress party of India.
(2)To get Handouts, Loans and investment form abroad to mend it's financial crisis .
Whenever the Regime claims that LTTE's conventional force is eleminated, there was always argument that how could that be, There are no LTTE prominent leader killed etc.
To rectify this this was a golden opputunity for the Rajapakse Regime to show that almost all the LTTE leaders have been killed so that they do not have ny power any more and it is matter of time the Fall of LTTE.
This is what the Regime desperately needed at this moment and they used this opportunity to capitalize to the maximum.
Only LTTE knows that What has really happened .
Whatever happened, I have great confidence that LTTE can bounce back since there are more capable commanders and so many thousands of Brave fighters left .
I do believe after looking at Theepan's pic that He attained Martyrdom .
About DBSJ's article, I think he secretly wants the LTTE eliminated because of his personal grudges and write fictions based on Defence.LK and his knowledge of the Vanni Territory and the Full names of the LTTE leaders.
To know more about his blunders , pls read his articles about Mecanized division at Muhamalai and Jeyaraj Fernado pulle.
What a sentimental idiot he is. He never approve my posts in his articles as I expose his ulterior motives. If he is a genuine person, why not publish my comments? That tells a lot of DBSJ.
//m.q.k said INDIAN..CONGRESS BOOT LICKER..THIS IS FOR U//
Mate,you still dont get the drift,dont you?Ok.Hypoethicaly speaking,even if we assume for a moment that Congress looses the election and BJP led NDA comes to power in Centre,what difference will it make to happenings in Srilanka - Zilch.
I repeated this so many times here anyways once again - NDA didnt even allow Balasingham to arrive in India even on medical grounds.If that doesnt tell you India's intentions,I dont know what ever will.
Also I do believe that Sinhella cowards used some kind of Chemical weapon to neutralize the brave LTTE fighters.
Indian,
Rajive was a moron and he brutally killed over 15,000 of our people.
Not only that he gave orders to kill our leader when he comes for Talk in an IPKF camp, But for the greatness of the IPKF commander who refused to do so because it was not ethical to kill a person when he comes for talk.
Such a coward Rajive is and he deserve a death penalty.
Rajive sent the IPKF to Eelam in the first place to coverup his multi million dollar corruption charges in collaboration with Italian Mafia.
We Tamils, it is time to draw a line in the sand. Wars have been fought and lives lost. What has been achieved? LTTE is banned by all major countries and branded as a terrorist outfit. We will never find international support UNLESS the LTTE is STOPPED. LTTE hijacked the Tamil issue with their terrorist tactics and started killing dissenting Tamils. Do you like to send your own children to LTTE battle front? Do don't do you? Place your hand on the heart and say. It is a big NO, isn't it?. India will never support LTTE after that "munumental disaster", killing Rajiv. Game is over? What are the rights that we are figting for? Only tamil homeland is in Tamil Nadu, not in Sri Lanka. Wake up guys!
Such a coward Rajive is and he deserve a death penalty.
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But I dont think he was killed by LPTP and they have never assumed responsibility his murder. Why are we talking about his death when its not related to LTPT?
NISHAN..SINHALA FUCKER...NO MODAYA HERE TO FOOL..GO TO DW..
MORE PROTEST IN AUSTRALIA...
About 300 Tamil supporters have marched through Melbourne, calling for an end to the conflict in north-eastern Sri Lanka.
The protesters claim Sri Lankan Government forces are committing genocide in Tamil regions.
Editor: "Badrinath" said...
["Did you forget that you are the one who first speculated about a possible chemical attack, out of your sheer innocent of not knowing how to assess battlefield wounds?"]
No, there were many reports in Tamil of a chemical attack prior to me writing this article. ...]
ALSO, chemical attack took place when the fighting was around Kili in Dec/Jan period!
this is what really surprised me that the LTTE was not prepared, unfortunately.
This GOSL is the lowest creatures with the full support of Italian mofia Godmother who is taking Mahatma Gandhi's India to Hitler's India!
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[Dinesh said...
Editor: "Badrinath" said...
Suppose Shavendra Silva had been killed. This would boost the morale of LTTE fighters. But if it was then revealed that Shavendra Silva was still alive and it was a lie, it would lower the morale.
Same is the situation with the Sri Lankan army.
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Exactly we should demorilize the singala army and moda bandas. Lets put some photos of Col Theepan and our heroes on TamilNet so that we can demorilize them. ...]
army.lk & defence.lk will release a list of killed everyday and the LTTE will have to appoint a few to release photos to prove otherwise!
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[m.q.k said...
MORE PROTEST IN AUSTRALIA...
About 300 Tamil supporters have marched through Melbourne, calling for an end to the conflict in north-eastern Sri Lanka.
The protesters claim Sri Lankan Government forces are committing genocide in Tamil regions. ]
EVERY PROTEST FROM 6TH OF APRIL SHOULD SHOW THE CHEMICAL ATTACKS. ISN'T IT STUPID NOT TO GIVE PUBLICITY TO THIS?
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[Laptop Kumara Ramawickrama said...
100,000 people protested on 31 January in Westminster. Medias did not give importance. Now less than 10,000 blocked the road, all medias give significance. This westminister protest is the front page Head-line in the two free newspapers distributed in all the London underground stations (London Lite and TheLondon paper). Hundreds thosands of underground commuters must have read thug lanka's poison gas news in these two free newspapers today. Now sinhala animals cannot face any local people in western countries. Because, they will be looked like criminals by western people. ..]
Dear Laptop,
Can you get the weblink of those news papers (or even scanned copies of the articles), and pass them to the tamilnet, tamilcanadian, puthinam, etc.?
These articles should be emailed to major news agencies like BBC, CNN, AFP, Reuters, AP, .... and news ppapers, radio/TV stations, etc. around the world.
...
Navindran,
No need to feel so "Sad" about Sri Lanka to which you neither belong nor welcome.
I am sure you have enough and more things to feel "sad" about
1. The invincible boys achieving Eelam in their hundreds at the hands of banda army
2. Scumbags like Badri showing gross pics of those boys to the entire diaspora and metaculously explaining them as if they were exhibits
3. Diaspora protestors becoming an international nuisance and joke..
Just to name a few
BTW how many more days for the economy to collapse and the Eelam to be achived by default?
What's the latest exchange rate?
Machan Navindran,
Just kidding...don't take my words too serously. I really appreciate your efforts to keep diaspora donkeys happy and contended no matter what..We like it that way...Keep it up pal.
Genocide™
Chemical Weapons®
Concentration Camps®
Women sterilization™
What else your Cry mama stories?????
[About 300 Tamil supporters have marched through Melbourne, calling for an end to the conflict in north-eastern Sri Lanka.]
Only 300? :-D Pathetic.. LTTE really losing support among the diaspora! Thats good.. after all there are lots of intelligent people who can figure out that the tigers days are numbered. They won't be cajoled in to going and holding up flags by force. Good for them.
[EVERY PROTEST FROM 6TH OF APRIL SHOULD SHOW THE CHEMICAL ATTACKS. ISN'T IT STUPID NOT TO GIVE PUBLICITY TO THIS?]
Actually they are smarter than you.. they know that making stupid allegations will only make them the laughing stock - if they are not already.
Regarding confirming/denying net-kills:
There are two issues.
1. Demotivation
Cadres on the ground are not even aware of the net-kills. They don't log-on to read DefenceLK. Denying the news has no impact on battlefield events.
Diaspora are anxious, but it is the fear of losing that drives them. In the 50 history of Tamils in Britain, Monday was the first day they openly defied the police and even clashed with them. It happened because of the net-kills. AS far as Diaspora is concerned, it is better for LTTE to leave the news.
2. Practical issues
Unlike deaths due to air-raid, mine blast or natural causes, death at battlefront is difficult to confirm.
If body is not recovered or the person is not positively identified, that cadre is classed as MIA.
There have been several incidents in the past when missing cadres have made it back after weeks even. The terrain now favors the Tiger; they know it like the back of their hand.
For web readers if a dead person come back alive it is a one minute celebration. But, for families, it causes unnecessary emotional pain to do 'last rites' for a person who is alive. A lot to do with our cultural practices of eddam naal, anthiyaddi etc.
So, it takes a few days to confirm is missing cadre is dead, in enemy hands or alive.
MIA was the reason for delay in confirming the death of Lt. Col. Amuthab.
Sometimes, when SLA releases a list of names as killed, confirming some of them to be alive would lead to automatic assumption that the others are dead. If SLA only has one of say three missing, it will increase search for the other two, one of whom may even be alive.
No sacrifice will go unacknowledged. Delay in confirming names of dead is due practical difficulties. Everyone should be aware.
[Can you get the weblink of those news papers (or even scanned copies of the articles), and pass them to the tamilnet, tamilcanadian, puthinam, etc.?]
Mahinda(n),
Yes. I have copies of those two papers. I can scan and send to tamilcanadian, tamilwin, puthinam etc..I hope that today's papers (Metro, lite, London paper) also will give the significance. If so, I can take today's papers also. I can scan and send to tamilcanadian, puthinam etc..
Guys,
Good thing you have the internet... atleast you can have "Cyber PEELAM" ... hih hih...
Dispora fools...
Cant you get it, we will never give an inch from our land to you monkey people..NEVER!
Mahinda(n),
Here is the link in the today's metro newpaper.
http://tinyurl.com/c2lb6l
badri/peter/navindran etc etc.....
I must say that u guys are the most optimistic bunch that I have seen...... no defeat, no withdrawal, no report, no nothing can bring down your optimistic dream of ealam isnt it?
1)when the tigers are retreating - thats because they are planning a massive counter attack
2)when there is no counter attack - that is because that way its easier to get ealam
3)when the leaders are reported dead - that is a lie, and those pics are only lies.
4)when the LTTE can't show pics of the leaders who were reported killed - thats part of a large plan to get more support
5)when DB says something which is outside ur script - he is a fool and a liar
6)when large numbers die - that is because of "chemical attacks" and the IC must step in
7)when the IC doesnot step in - "we the tamils need to fight this alone, there will never be the IC who will come to our support
......
......
......
:)))
I m sure for such imaginative folks like you, the best place to build your Ealam will be in cyber space...
Mahinda(n),
link of 'london paper' is here..
http://www.thelondonpaper.com/
Mahinda(n)
Here is evening standard newspaper
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/
SRII LANKAA MAATHAAA ... APA SRIII LANKAAA..
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NAMO MAATHAAA
Regarding confirming/denying net-kills:
There are two issues.
1. Demotivation
Cadres on the ground are not even aware of the net-kills. They don't log-on to read DefenceLK. Denying the news has no impact on battlefield events.
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This is incorrect assumption. They get to listen to the Radio. The cadres will be very demoralized, if they continue to hear the singala propaganda. We should do something to stop them doing this.
Why don't we do the same thing as these stupid bandhas are doing. Can't we show photos of the bandhas we killed during the last few weeks. That would teach them a lesson.
Dinesh,
You seem way too advanced. I don't have a radio that shows photos :(
Thoughtful Guy,
[I m sure for such imaginative folks like you, the best place to build your Ealam will be in cyber space...]
That's a wicked thing to say man.. But I'm still in stitches :)
Net-killing bandas sounds good but lorry sounds better.
If this is just net killings why the big noice about gas attack eh?
Looking at the agitated diaspora in UK and elsewhere one would think atleast 500 have LPTP carders have attained eelam overnight
--- We strongly believe that this country belongs to the Sinhalese but there are minority communities and we treat them like our people…We being the majority of the country, 75 per cent, we will never give in and we have the right to protect this country…We are also a strong nation … They can live in this country with us. But they must not try to, under the pretext of being a minority, demand undue things.
Thanks Laptop :-)
Please also email to news agencies, etc!
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More Innovative Protest
Tamil protesters plan a summer of blockades outside M&S stores
The Tamil supporters who brought chaos to Westminster yesterday are planning a series of demonstrations this summer at branches of M&S.
Stores belonging to the British retail giant, which recently opened factories in Sri Lanka, face being blockaded by hundreds of students demanding a ceasefire in the civil war-torn country.
About 300 protesters were today at Parliament Square for a third day of demonstrations over the Sri Lankan government's offensive against the Tamil Tigers, a rebel organisation banned in Britain.
Target: Tamil demonstrators (left, pictured yesterday) plan a summer of protests outside M&S stores which recently opened factories in Sri Lanka
Yesterday 3,500 Tamil supporters took over the square, after reports of a poison gas attack on civilians in Sri Lanka. Seven of the protesters were arrested.
The Sri Lankan government rejects a ceasefire, claiming it is on the verge of defeating the Tigers who want a separate homeland.
Karan Murgavel, a 22-year-old student in London, claimed: "M&S keeps opening factories in Sri Lanka, boosting the government and indirectly funding genocide."
Plans for the summer protests have been drawn up by Tamil student groups. Other targets may include Sri Lankan airlines and travel agents.
SLA encircled ltte completely by cut off the last supply route on 01 of april and they waited for 24 hrs and SLA expected about >200 ltte in that area and entered the place on 03rd with large fire support and chemical attack. But they could found only less number of ltte caders. Other peole managed to escape from that area and few infiltrated into army controlled area. Nothing happened as SLA propaganda for sure.
Hi Illusion
Yes yes nothing happened.
SLA is still at Mavil Aru.
m.q.k said...
More Innovative Protest
Tamil protesters plan a summer of blockades outside M&S stores
LTTE Terrorists supporters can achieve Peelam in this summer in London.
Sri Lankan Army preparing to do something terrible to the civilians and then blame the LTTE for it.
From defence.lk:
"Several loud explosions have been heard in the NFZ soon after army made the final announcement for the LTTE terrorists to release the civilians held hostage by them this afternoon (Apr 8)."
Bhadri,
Forget eelam for a moment.Your friend Vaiko is in need of some desperate help in TN.
http://www.dinamalar.com/Arasiyalnewsdetail.asp?News_id=9083&cls=row3&ncat=TN
As if the aaapu given by Amma was not enough,he had to face this humiliation too yesterday in Egmore,Chennai.His party is evaporating faster than the Eelam dreams of VP.
Hope you can read Tamil
[Editor: "Badrinath" said...
Sri Lankan Army preparing to do something terrible to the civilians and then blame the LTTE for it.
From defence.lk:
"Several loud explosions have been heard in the NFZ soon after army made the final announcement for the LTTE terrorists to release the civilians held hostage by them this afternoon (Apr 8)." ...]
The GOSL/SLA did the same before using chemical gas on fighters over the last week-end, i.e making announcements to surrender and then use chemical gas on them.
So, the is going to happen to the civilians.
The IC always say "We do not know whose firing killed the civilians".
How can we stop this GOSL animal?
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Indian...congressman..everyone in tamilnadu knows the truth abt DMK and congress...they are good at making drama...but no action...threating to resign everytime but never did or else congress gov would have gone down the drain.. U dont have to woory abt vaiko...now everyone knows the reality abt DMK....u will see the result at election...meanwhile just shut up..
"Several loud explosions have been heard in the NFZ soon after army made the final announcement for the LTTE terrorists to release the civilians held hostage by them this afternoon (Apr 8)."
here is the translated version of the defence.lk joke
sinhala army launched a mission into 'safety zone' to kill tamils
I received this APPEAL (to any one) via email circulations. Very much Ant-LTTE, pro-GOSL, pro-democracy (then cannot be pro-GOSL too?), pro-IC.
what do you think?
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Request for a UN-sponsored ceasefire & referendum OR Hearing by the ICJ
Our primary request to you would be to call for a “UN-sponsored ceasefire & referendum among Sri Lankan Tamils to determine their future” (in addition to the most urgent demand for food, medicine, allowing ICRC, UN, etc. to work in Vanni). Referendum helped Quebec a couple of times. In addition, this demand cannot be viewed as illegal because 1) we’re not supporting any banned organization 2) we are not demanding to partition a country, i.e. Quebec voted twice to remain 3) we are promoting democracy 4) we’re working to stop all violence in SL 5) Government of Sri Lanka always claims that most Tamils wish to live in a unitary Sri Lankan State. A referendum will also confirm the claim of the government of Sri Lanka (GOSL) beyond any doubt and strengthen sovereignty of the Unitary Sri Lankan state 6) a referendum of this nature will put the LTTE out of business as what they claim to be fighting for by violence means will be handled peacefully by ballots during this referendum. All countries around the world battling the LTTE terrorism should take up this opportunity to defeat the LTTE easily by using ballots! Therefore, obviously, a “UN-sponsored ceasefire & referendum among Sri Lankan Tamils” would be beneficial to the GOSL, International community and Tamils holding Sri Lankan citizenship. A UN-sponsored referendum would enable the Tamils in Sri Lanka exercise their democratic rights without the guns of the LTTE and the Sri Lankan armed forces pointing at them! This request is not new as this has already been supported by the Democrats in California: “California Democrats seek Referendum to resolve Sri Lanka conflict” http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=28640 . We hope that further such calls will encourage the UN to act along this line very soon to resolve this long standing problem by using just one simple tool!
If some countries make use of veto power to block, then the nations respecting human rights and civilization should take this to International Court of Justice (ICJ) so that the ICJ can force the UN to act to offer the voting rights to Tamils holding Sri Lankan citizenship!
A brief historical review can be useful to justify this call for a UN-sponsored referendum. When British conducted the last census in Sri Lanka, the Northern and Easter Provinces were about 95% inhabited by Tamils. It was also the case when British took over from Dutch and Dutch took over from Portuguese and also when Portuguese captured the Island in 1505. Unfortunately, due to the genocidal policies of the Singhala dominated Sri Lankan government put-in place since 1948, now the Tamils in the Eastern Province are almost the minority. Many Tamil villages were ethnically cleansed and Singhalas were settled in those lands. As you all know now the Northern province is being ethnically cleansed and prepared for Singhala colonization possibly funded by the US $ 1.9 biln IMF loan.
Tamils started their non-violence struggle to win their rights since early 1950s. These non-violence struggles were met with violence including 1956, 1958, 1977, anti-Tamil riots. As Tamils were peace loving people, it took more than 25 years of determined violence from the Singhalas to transform the non-violence Tamils’ struggle into a violent one. If Tamils were to take-up violence fast within 1-2 years, I would admit that “Tamils also enjoy violence”. But, in Sri Lanka, Tamils trusted non-violence struggle for 25-30 years while Singhalas were only using violence against them. During these 25-30 years many agreements were signed between Tamil and Singhala leaders and they were subsequently abrogated unilaterally by the Singhalas after Tamils had accepted them. We must also take note that the first political assassination was that of Mr. Bandaranayaka (who was then the incumbent Prime Minister of Ceylon) by a Singhala Buddhist monk because Mr. Bandaranayaka wanted to offer a very low level of devolution to Tamils and Tamils had accepted this devolution package in the early 1960s. We must take note that there was no violent agitation by the Tamils in the early 1960s and if that devolution had been implemented, we would not be talking about all these now!
As the 25-30 years of patience shown by Tamils ran out in the late 70s and early 80s, the island has been filled with only violence from both sides since then. Everyone knows well, what is happening now in Sri Lanka. All requests by all countries and all NGOs regarding ceasefire, monitoring, giving freedom to people isolated from relatives and locked up in the internment camps, etc. have been ignored. All calls to uphold media freedom, human rights, etc. by numerous parties are rubbished as fictional stories sympathetic to the LTTE. Tamils are abducted, killed, imprisoned without charges, tortured, ALL OVER THE ISLAND not only in the war-zone and the so-called “civilian safe zone” is regularly attacked with 200+ casualties daily since 20th of January 2009. Special envoy appointed by the British Government was rejected. Therefore, at this stage a “UN-sponsored ceasefire & referendum among Sri Lankan Tamils to determine their future” is the natural choice to resolve all issues simultaneously with just one tool!
Tamils are so far totally disappointed by the total in-action by the international community (IC) which is considering of rewarding the GOSL with 1.9 bln US $ to “pursue its policy goals” of which #1 is the “genocide of the Tamils” – this is really hard for Tamils understand and makes Tamils wonder if the “genocide of the Tamils” were a policy goal of the IC too!! This IMF loans will be directly or indirectly used to colonize Singhalas in the recently ethnically cleansed Vanni province. The GOSL still enjoys the GSP+ from the EU! Tamils now pray for firm actions from the IC instead of just expressing serious or grave or deep or critical or grim or … (well, we’re running out of these words now and will have to go back to using the old words again) “concern”!!
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FROM SRI LANKA BUSINESS ONLINE
Sri Lanka state finances busted, Rs118bn printed Hehehehe
April 08, 2009 (LBO) – Sri Lanka's government finances had been busted in 2008 with revenues 95 billion rupees below target, 118 billion rupees being printed by the central bank, while foreign financing turned negative, the latest official data show.
In recent years it has become the practice in Sri Lanka to present fairy tale revenue numbers to the parliament in the budget HAHAHA ENJOY THE STORY, and only airy fairy out-turn numbers in next year's budget for parliamentary consumption.
Hard reality hits the public only later. It is usual to over-estimate revenue, under-estimated current expenditure and show impressive expenditure allocations.
Fairy Tale
In the 2008 budget, Sri Lanka originally projected revenues of 750.7 billion rupees, current expenditure of 712.8 billion rupees and capital expenditure of 331.2 billion rupees.
In November, with only one month to go the revised out-turn was presented to Sri Lanka's gullible lawmakers as 709 billion rupees of revenue, 743.3 billion in current expenditure and 278.1 billion as capital expenditure.
The provisional data released in the central bank annual report show that the finance ministry has only raised 655.2 billion rupees in revenue (95.5 billion rupees below target) and current expenditure was 743.7 billion rupees (30 billion above target).
Capital expenditure was 252.4 billion rupees or 78 billion rupees below target.
Meanwhile a projected 37.8 billion surplus in the current budget (total revenues less current expenditure) turned into a record 88.4 billion rupee deficit.
The overall budget deficit was also higher at 340.8 billion rupees, up from an originally projected 293.4 billion rupees.
Balance of Payments crisis
The government was originally targeting 109 billion rupees of foreign financing but an outflow of commercial loans resulted in a net 4.6 billion rupee payback to lenders.
Meanwhile the central had printed 118.4 billion rupees (central bank credit) to finance the deficit, triggering a balance of payments crisis as it defended a dollar peg.
Rapid acquisitions of domestic assets (money printed to buy treasury securities) by a central bank results in either currency depreciation or an equivalent loss of foreign reserves, if the exchange rate is not allowed to fall.
Sri Lanka has now turned to an IMF bailout with the interventions ended to conserve foreign reserves and new taxes being imposed to shore up revenues and reduce money printing.
This year's revenues were hard hit by collapsing external trade but even in good years such as 2007 when Sri Lanka posted record economic growth there have been wide gaps between original budget targets and the final achievements.
In 2007 inflation was also high. High inflation bloats state revenues and is a common ruse used by Third World policymakers to boost revenues and impoverish the population without making visible rate changes in taxes.
Usual Story
In 2007 the administration projected 599.8 billion rupees of revenues, parliament was told in the next budget that the revised numbers were 605.3 billion rupees, and ultimately achieved only 565.0 billion rupees.
Current expenditure was promised at 596.4 billion rupees, but 622.7 billion rupees was busted. Capital expenditure was promised at 240.4 billion rupees, but was later cut to 218.8 billion rupees.
A 3.6 billion rupees surplus projected in the 2007 current budget, eventually turned into a 57.7 billion rupee deficit.
The central bank printed billions from the second quarter of the year, triggered a minor currency crisis, but managed to reverse the problem by floating the currency.
Following a 500 million dollar sovereign bond issue, the central bank managed to sell down its Treasury bill stock and boost reserves.
aka Said..
here is the translated version of the defence.lk joke
sinhala army launched a mission into 'safety zone' to kill tamils
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SLA could easily do this by firing the MBRL in to the safety zone with air support from the SLAF.
aKa said...
sri lanka is like Rwanda
sri lanka killing the minority
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Yup we want to eliminate the armed minority terrorists which has been curse for the country for nearly 3 decades...
m.q.k,
Ofcourse,we will know the results by May16th.Its more than a month away.By then,NFZ too would have gone,right?So what difference will the result make.
Anyways,whats your prediction in TN? 40-0 drubbing to DMK-Congress?
indian...that's ur assumption...the important question is whether tiger will be gone not NFZ...get it...as long as there are tigers...the struggle will continue..
Monkeynath,
You are a celebrity in LTTE circles. They flock to your blog to find theories and news. Hey, keep up the momentum.
As with the Eelam project, the LTTE is so bankrupt, they are looking for some lifeline.
Now you only "I mean only" put out the possible theory of gas attacks, and the who LTTE community including some long established LTTE mouthpieces have picked them up.
As I said, you did that with your sheer innocence of not having a clue about battlefield injuries (and you are not a professional in that aspect either.. we understand!). So, we do not want to blame you!
However, now your innocence suggestion has become a major issue in Monkeypora circles, and possibly one Monkey jumped over the Westminister bridge over that issue too.
I am sure that it will be not so far that LTTE will order one of the sleeper suicide cadre based in the West to go and self-immolate in front of some building over the issue too.
See how naive you whole lot is. Not using the brain, but act on emotions!
Nothern Tamils' plight in Sri Lanka mainly attributes to them not taking time to stop, think, and analyse. They blindly followed the Tamil racist politicians, and came this far destroying the whole Northern Tamil society. .. yeah agree that on their way, they ethnically cleansed the North too (but without Eelam, no use of that effort either right?)
But, when Northern Tamils get themselves blown up to achieve petty objectives of the racist Tamil politicians, the Tamils in the South embraced living in harm with the majority. They are smart (as with the Muslims). Those who learned to live with the majority commands higher social, economic, and political status in Sri Lanka.
You guys have to learn these facts at least now- spreading hatred, violence, ego, killing, and destroying will achieve nothing for the Tamils you want to save. It will further put them into stone-age.
As I mentioned earlier, you can not bend universal truths. One universal truth is that the "Success of a minority depends on their positive relationship with the majority". Failing to understand this factor will further sink your Northern Tamils into stone-age.
The irony is, you guys know the theory very well and practice it in the West in your adoptive countries, but you do not want to do it in Sri Lanka.
BTW, I saw a Monkey call d wants to kill DBSJ for publishing the truth. Is that democracy too?
@ Indian - dont worry about Eelam VP, Vaiko etc , you "Indians" are getting good appu in your backs from the laudas of your Hindian Masters.
Small correction!
"But, when Northern Tamils get themselves blown up to achieve petty objectives of the racist Tamil politicians, the Tamils in the South embraced living in harmony with the majority.
A.G.K's example of Sikhs is a good one. Learn from examples!
Monkeynath, you can make a difference! You are an overnight celebrity now. So, use that fame to rally Sri Lankan Tamils towards positive relationship with the majority. It will cure all your ills.
@I'm not Bhairav , what makes you assume SLA is not using MBRLS, Kfirs MIGSs on civilians ? about 80 % of the casualties are non combantants killed by arti shelling etc and conveniently labeled as "terrorist" by SLA. If you have doubts just watch the recent Defence.lk video on sinking 4 Tiger boats
"Indian" aka "Sell out",
//Indian: blah blah ..23+...
awww.. so, there were 23+ and now only 7 and thus there is no support to eelam tamil now.. point proven and I shot in my foot.. :( Thanks for enlighten me with your enlightening argument to prove that there is no support to eelam tamils now in tamilnadu.. :(
To peter, mgk, bhairav, badri etc,
It is very clear from "Indian" aka "I am from Tamil nadu" his post that his only objective her is to suck up to stinkelesh and making you guys mad, treat him as such and dont feed to troll. I won't be surprise even if he is really from TN. We have Tamils who is ready to sell their own mother, daughter or wife (like "Indian") don't we? :)
update from TN:
MK: 8th "Perani" in Chennai
Thriuma: 8th - TN wide Pooratam
Vaika: 9th TN wide pooratam.
Expect more to join in soon...
[NOLTTE=Peace said...
Monkeynath,
...
...
As I mentioned earlier, you can not bend universal truths. One universal truth is that the "Success of a minority depends on their positive relationship with the majority". Failing to understand this factor will further sink your Northern Tamils into stone-age.
The irony is, you guys know the theory very well and practice it in the West in your adoptive countries, but you do not want to do it in Sri Lanka. ...]
you must be the biggest idiot to make such stupid comments. Can you compare any western country as equivalent to this shit lanka? you are a real modaya living in an imaginary world assuming the shit lanka is as good as any western world!
Tamils will practice your theory only if the shit lanka were as good as a western country ... idiot!
if this modaya requires some history lesson, it is below (of course modayas have their own version):
Tamils started their non-violence struggle to win their rights since early 1950s. These non-violence struggles were met with violence including 1956, 1958, 1977, anti-Tamil riots. As Tamils were peace loving people, it took more than 25 years of determined violence from the Singhalas to transform the non-violence Tamils’ struggle into a violent one. If Tamils were to take-up violence fast within 1-2 years, I would admit that “Tamils also enjoy violence”. But, in Sri Lanka, Tamils trusted non-violence struggle for 25-30 years while Singhalas were only using violence against them. During these 25-30 years many agreements were signed between Tamil and Singhala leaders and they were subsequently abrogated unilaterally by the Singhalas after Tamils had accepted them. We must also take note that the first political assassination was that of Mr. Bandaranayaka (who was then the incumbent Prime Minister of Ceylon) by a Singhala Buddhist monk because Mr. Bandaranayaka wanted to offer a very low level of devolution to Tamils and Tamils had accepted this devolution package in the early 1960s. We must take note that there was no violent agitation by the Tamils in the early 1960s and if that devolution had been implemented, we would not be talking about all these now!
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m.g.k, don't feed to the sell-out troll.
Guys, Please don't be tempted into anti-Tn comments by "Indian".
We have a "Somalaian" roaming around here as well.
I came across a 'mukkal' quoting Bharathiyar on Topix. Anything is possible; so, keep your guards up; don't take bait from anyone.
Check out the latest pre-poll survey by India TV. Congress is predicted to get 2 seats in TN, down from 10 in the last election. Bandas might even reduce that to 0.
tn thamilz,
That's pleasing to know. Tamils in TN have stuck with us for past so many decades. I don't expect them to let us down at this crucial time.
There are, of course, people too ashamed to even speak Tamil. They ride the "Aryan" wave; they probably reckon it's fashionable to support the Sinhalese.
I was in Mumbai recently, but haven't been to TN for many years. Tamils in Mumbai are very supportive of Eelam Tamils, but their clout in limited. Very difficult to fully understand the developments in TN. Thanks to everyone for the updates. Pre-poll surveys and the recent NDTV survey were also reassuring.
Kingdom Eelam falling down falling down falling down - Kingdom Eelam falling down my fair lady
Build it up with extortion extortion extortion - Build it up with extortion my fair lady
Extortion is stolen stolen stolen - Extortion is stolen my fair lady
Build it up with forced children forced children forced children - Build it up with forced children my fair lady
Forced children are running away running away running away - Forced children are running away my fair lady
Build it up with elite killers elite killers elite killers - Build it up with elite killers my fair lady
Elite killers are decimated decimated decimated - Elite killers are decimated my fair lady
Build it up with IDP IDP IDP - Build it up with IDP my fair lady
IDP are liberated liberated liberated - IDP are liberated my fair lady
Call out for the gee-no-cide gee-no-cide gee-no-cide - Call out for the gee-no-cide my fair lady
Gee-no-cide is what we did what we did what we did - Gee-no-cide is what we did my fair lady
Ask for help from O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma - Ask for help from O-ba-ma my fair lady
Obama has got more problems more problems more problems - Obama has got more problems my fair lady
Ask for help from In-dee-ya In-dee-ya In-dee-ya - Ask for help from In-dee-ya my fair lady
Rajeev haunts in In-dee-ya In-dee-ya In-dee-ya - Rajeev haunts in In-dee-ya my fair lady
Ask for help from Solheim Solheim Solheim - Ask for help for Solheim my fair lady
Solheim cunningly washed his hands washed his hands washed his hands - Solheim cunningly washed his hands my fair lady
All you have is cyanide cyanide cyanide - All you have is cyanide my fair lady
Kiwwata kannata be appa be appa be appa - Kiwwata kannata be appa my fair lady
Regarding India,
I read that there will be many many protests against the DMK-Cong alliance by NUMEROUS non-political organizations which will have more validity among the voters than those organized by the VCK (which is still with the Cong-DMK alliance?), MDMK, PMK, etc.!
These non-political organizations ask for only one thing - VOTE AGAINST the DMK-CONG genocidal alliance!
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NOLTTE=Peace , you mean "Tamils learn from theng Sikhs" to throw shoes at the Home Minister, and accurately !!!
tn thamilz said...
m.g.k, don't feed to the sell-out troll.
mr.indian sold his balls to congress..
thanks for the TN update..
Indian said...
m.q.k,
Anyways,whats your prediction in TN? 40-0 drubbing to DMK-Congress?
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How about IndiaTV's prediction based on surveys it has conducted in TN?
Tamil Nadu 39 AIDMK-30 CONG-02 DMK-07
Link for poll data I quoted above:
http://www.indiatvnews.com/common.aspx?path=0/186/281
mahindan10 said...
{These non-political organizations ask for only one thing - VOTE AGAINST the DMK-CONG genocidal alliance!}
previously..i have posted the news about that...
Alot of support this time to defeat DMK-CONGRESS..
Chithambaram got a shoe from a Sikh. Now a Tamil should chuck a shoe at Kolaingar Karunanithi.
That man had potential to be one of our greatest leaders.
but thanks to his love for cash and greed to make his son next CM, he will go down in history next to Eddappar.
There will be many plays in the future about the playwright.
Tamil Nadu 39 AIDMK-30 CONG-02 DMK-07
Peter..
wow..thats good news...
Roymuller,
Shoe throwing type idiots will always be there! See how Sikhs prosper in India now after getting out of violent path.
Mahindan(10),
You guys want to live in stone-age. This is the 21st century and tribalism has no space there.
What happened to your none-violence sit in on London Bridge (as Police even broke arms of your Monkeys)? Now are you going to declare war against UK government too?
Peter,
Majority of the TN tamils are always with Eelam tamils. Support for Eelam tamils were there as "neeru pootha nerrupu" until recently. MK opend the pandora box by starting the Human chain in Oct. This started the wave of eelam tamil support protests in TN from all parties. Why do you think Jaya changed her stance now? Every one wants to cash in the people's sentiment on Eelam support and no one wants to left out. We were/are always with you bro (save the few sell-outs).
Latest addition:
Thangabalau - Cong Leader in TN today said his party will participate in MK's paarani in TN to stop the genocide war Eelam tamils.
Jaya "amma" released a strong statement criticizing MK and Center for aiding the singlecell thuggies in the war and asking for Cease-fire.
m.g.k,
That is very good news, given DMK led alliance scooped all seats in the last election.
Best thing will be if Sonia-Karunanithi get 0 seats. Even 9 seats for them will send wrong message to rest of India and the world.
Tamils should vote for Tamil parties supporting fellow Tamils, not Sinhalese. But people in TN also have to consider their local situation.
I fear if they go out on street Kolaingar will try heavy handed tactics like he did with Director Seeman.
But during election time anything is possible.
If only TN police would go easy of people transporting food and medicine.
There are some great posts from Tamil folks at DBSJ's site.
Some good advice for war mongering Monkeys
There are many comments from Tamils with senses
tn thamilz...
where are the strong support for dmk and Congress now since survey show there are still support for them...
All news coming from Tamils around the world are good. More people are finally opening up their eyes.
I have no love for JJ either.
It is a shame that we have not had a true leader like MGR for so many years.
But the important thing now is to stop the killings. Anyone who can leverage people's support to do that should be welcomed.
Kolaingar had the chance to do it for 8 months now. Every time he said wait, wait, send Menon, send Pranab, and we all know what those two told the Rajapaksa brothers. Even Kanomozhi has been boxed now.
peter/mgk,
It should be 50%-50% for both "kootanis" to balance out. Otherwise, cong. may ditch MK and align with Jaya to form a government in the center. I do feel that is the reason why Thiruma is in MK's side.
I am sure Thiruma will win both seats, 1-3 for Cong. 10-15 for DMK, 10-15 for AIADMK and the rest might will about half of what the contest. There is no clear winner or loser with the current alignment (oh wait, Vijayakanth and BJP would be washouts).
[NOLTTE=Peace said...
Roymuller,
Shoe throwing type idiots will always be there! See how Sikhs prosper in India now after getting out of violent path.
Mahindan(10),
You guys want to live in stone-age. This is the 21st century and tribalism has no space there. ...]
Singhala barbarians still live in the stone age of 17th century doing things such as:
using chemical weapons, attacking hospitals, blocking food/medicines, etc., etc.
Tamils do NOT want to have anything to do with these stone-age barbarians FULL-STOP
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Peter & m.g.k,
you guys rejoice as if IndiaTV pre-poll survey is the final verdict.Hang on guys.We have to wait until May13th.
Well,when you are on a hilltop,the only is coming down.So DMK+Congress+VCK will no way repeat their feat of 2004.They had MDMK \ PMK \Communists as well with them.
They will loose seats no doubt due to the political re-alignment - PMK\MDMK\Communists switching over to JJ.I predict a fractured verdict in TN.Similar to the one's we had in '98 / '99 elections.
[tn thamilz said...
peter/mgk,
It should be 50%-50% for both "kootanis" to balance out. Otherwise, cong. may ditch MK and align with Jaya to form a government in the center. I do feel that is the reason why Thiruma is in MK's side.
I am sure Thiruma will win both seats, 1-3 for Cong. 10-15 for DMK, 10-15 for AIADMK and the rest might will about half of what the contest. There is no clear winner or loser with the current alignment (oh wait, Vijayakanth and BJP would be washouts). ...]
Tamils hope that the protests organized by the non-political organization with a single goal of defeating the DMK-VCK-Cong alliance will sure have a big impact and change the 50-50 prediction decisively. This non-political alliance appears to be HUGE!
...
Retailers and fashion houses importing 'Made in Sri Lanka' goods:
Gap,
Marks & Spencer,
Victoria’s Secret,
Liz Claiborne,
Abercrombie and Fitch,
Tommy Hilfiger,
Polo/Ralph Lauren,
Nike,
Eddi Bauer,
Pierre Cardin,
Charming Shops,
London Fog,
C&A,
BHS,
Calvin Klein,
Gymboree,
Tesco
Source: Board of Investment, Sri Lanka
Start protests with M&S as it is the largest importer.
Owing to lower sales, retailers are looking to reduce imports. Threat of negative publicity will influence their decisions on which countries they want to pull-out-of.
//Peter said Chithambaram got a shoe from a Sikh. Now a Tamil should chuck a shoe at Kolaingar Karunanithi//
Do you really approve of that incident,Peter?
Punjab is very much a peaceful state in India.We have had Congress governments ruling Punjab after the militancy was crushed.
Its one state where the Government crushed militancy and also won over the hearts of the people.
m.g.k,
We need to understand this...
At the hight of Hindi agitation(in the 60's), Cong still got 40+% vote in TN. Does this mean 40% TNs are anti-tamils? No.
DK, DMK, AIADMK are/were athists, vehemently opposted/against Hindu religion and yet DMK and AIADMK were the only 2 parties forming the government in the last 3 decades, Does this mean about 60% tamils are anti-hindus and don't go to temple? No.
The people who vote for parties take many things into consideration but there are about 20% swing votes that go with sentiments and this is huge. This swing vote is the key to the power. younger generation is the biggest chunk of the swing votes (they don't come in to the "vote bank" yet). I recently read the survey done by nakkeeran. Many people were angry with Cong. for their support to single-cells and they said they won't vote for Cong. This is swing vote. Expect this swing vote cause lots of damage to Cong. and DMK.
Mahindan(10),
It seems like you read too much MonkeyNet articles.
See GOSL is only attacking hospitals and children places.
Didn't you notice in the last four months?
Protests outside retailers are the easiest to do and have the highest impact; hit moda Lankans where it hurts.
Plans can be simple: nearest M&S clothes stores, even in weekends, groups of even 10 people per store would do. If TYO can start it off, older people will join easily.
Your M&S. Your Genocide.
This isn't any ordinary child. This is a child killed by Your M&S.
mahindan10,
Not really.Elections dont workout that way.
The ground reality in TN is this:
In any election,the ruling party has to face anti-Incumbency.Ruling parties in State and Centre are facing the elections together.
So for the opposition to win,they will have to garner the anti-Govt votes completely.Now in TN,the situation is that Vijayakanth's DMDK will eat into the anti-Govt votes as well.
So,Vijayakanth + JJ together would have spelt doom for Congress+DMK.It could have very easily been 40-0 in favour of JJ.But alas thats not the case.
mahindan10,
To prevent cong. party coming to power, there should be a balance in TN (nowadays, every single seat counts in the center). Cong. won't mind to ditch MK if Jaya comes with 20 seats and Jaya won't mind supporting Cong., if it helps her topple local goverment. Think about it.
..and I don't expect a complete wash out of DMK in this election with current alignment. It is going to be a tough fight for both aliances.
tn thamilz,
Thanks for the explanation. Things would have been a lot simpler had Kolaingar formed a pro-Tamil front, leaving Congress aside. That was not to be. But I do hope that, at least on a sentimental level, Congress is fully routed in TN.
Internationally headlines would be TN Tamils vote-in Congress, which led the war on Tamils in Eelam. That doesn't sound good. That's how future generations will remember it. Only the people living now in TN would know the nitty-gritty of election/coalition politics. Historically, wins for Congress in TN in this election would be very difficult to justify.
I am just looking that this from the world-wide perspective for next hundreds of years to come. Tamils have survived for several millenniums; we will do so for next few. Question is, how will this period go down in history?
Indian" aka "Sell out",
//Indian: blah blah ..23+...
awww.. so, there were 23+ and now only 7 and thus there is no support to eelam tamil now.. point proven and I shot in my foot.. :( Thanks for enlighten me with your enlightening argument to prove that there is no support to eelam tamils now in tamilnadu.. :(
Exactly.Leave out the brain washed party cadres from self immolation and who else do you have.
That completely pales out when compared with the emotions I saw in 80's.
The central government of Indira had to go along with the people's sentiments.Mind you,she had absolute majority of her own and could have crushed the uprising in TN.She didnt do that.
On the other hand,when there was call for bandh from State government,the Central government too supported it and declared it as a holiday.
And to put things in perspective,support/sympathy for the suffering civilians unfortunately has been overwhelmed by the happenings of May21.Thats exactly what I am trying to get across.
The hardships faced by the civilians caught in war zone now was also faced by the civilians in 80's.But the uprising we saw in 80's is not there now.Hope you understand
I think the more important part is actual support for Eelam Tamils on the ground.
News of police in TN apprehending people for transporting fuel, for example, to Eelam does not make good reading.
Would the students, at least, rise-up with civil obedience campaigns? Or would they consider it too much of a hassle?
Peter, I agree with you complete. I was (like many of you guys) hoping that MK will ditch the cong and form an alliance with PMK, MDMK and VCK. This would have been a killer alliance and would have routed cong+AIADMK alliance. Alas, he only wanted to save his current power now. Such is the state of Tamil "leaders" in TN.
Vijayakanth had the golder opportunity, once in a life time chance, to get into power but he dropped the ball.
"Indian"
"suffering civilians unfortunately has been overwhelmed by the happenings of May21"
So, Tamils in Tamil Nadu loved Rajeev more than the 5, 000+ Tamils his forces killed in Eelam? If so, why did NDTV report 66% support LTTE?
//Peter said
I think the more important part is actual support for Eelam Tamils on the ground.
News of police in TN apprehending people for transporting fuel, for example, to Eelam does not make good reading.
Would the students, at least, rise-up with civil obedience campaigns? Or would they consider it too much of a hassle//
Peter,its not transporting fuel,its smuggling fuel.No legitimate country will allow that,isnt it?
The civil obedience campaign you mention could happen definitely,provided the organizer's dont arrange for Tiger flag and carry poster's of VP etc.It only brings back ugly memories.
In my opinion,if Tiger's are nowhere in the picture,and the GoSL carries out atrocities against the innocent civilians,you could very well see the same passion as witnessed in 80's.
Its really unfortunate that an organization that was born with the intention of saving the people,is now taking the very same people out.
Vezhiye payirai meintha kathai.
IC inspite of all the noise watches still,as GoSL's argument of the war being waged against terrorist's holds good.Take Tiger's out and the situation will be completely different
Peter, Don't take those reports too serious. Those are just an eye wash just to show to the center that all is well in the state in terms of "law". LTTE won't come and show the other shipments. would it? ;) TN police made up of Tamils. I hope you get the point :)
Peter, "Indian" aka "sell-out" already proved with his worthy post that his only objective here in this forum is to disprove the fact that there is massive support building up for eelam tamils in TN and thus antagonizing you guys. So, why feed the troll with genuine argument? This guy should be treated much lower than single-cells. At least single cells stick their head for their breed.
tn thamilz,
For the benefit of our people in TN.
Rajeev's assassination probably wasn't the easiest decision LTTE ever took. But, it has to be seen in the context of the previous history between him and us.
He took VP to Delhi, issued a few threats and signed Indo-Lanka accord without consulting Tamils. Where were 'Tamils' in the 'India-Sri Lanka' accord?
Even so, people were happy with IPKF being deployed, until it arrested LTTE cadres and threatened to hand them over to the Sinhalese. Those guys committed suicide and the rest is now history.
In the resulting chaos, a lot of Tamil blood was spilled on the streets of Eelam. I know TN is part of India, but truth be told, Indian soldiers did carry out a lot of atrocities.
The so called 'Indo-Lanka' accord was fndenmentally flawed because it gave 'limited devolution' but did nothing to stop Sinhalese from revoking the devolution at a time of their choosing. North and East provinces were merged int he accord, for example, but they have been split again by the Sinhalese.
Not only the LTTE, but even other groups were not very happy with Indo-Lanka accord. But many saw no option as Rajeev was threatening war against anyone who would not accept it. Only the LTTE dared to say that it would not be shortchanged.
Anyhow, putting history behind, it is good to see TN working together to bring a better future for our people.
//So, Tamils in Tamil Nadu loved Rajeev more than the 5, 000+ Tamils his forces killed in Eelam? If so, why did NDTV report 66% support LTTE//
Exactly mate.TN loved Rajiv to the core.You have any doubt?Check the results of parliamentry election's held in 1989 - mind you this is post the IPKF fiasco.
Rajiv led,INC won 26 seats.Thats was 26 out of 26 they contested.
Of all places,in TN.I shudder to think about it.
About NDTV,its one kichdi pole mate.It says 66% supports LTTE.It says Karuna is the most popular leader with 41%.It says DMK allianz will win 21 seats when compared to 18 to JJ.
If the first opinion holds good,then the remaining 2 is not possible.So its upto you to call on these pre-poll surveys
Peter, People who follow the eelam struggle closely (including the Tamils in TN) knows very well why Rajeev was killed. Majority of the TN tamils don't care about the Rajeev now. Sad thing is, those majority won't come and post in the internet very often. It is the sell-outs and imposers who dominates the internet creating an images of "lookiee lookiee, TN tamils care about Rajeev's killing more than thousands of innocent tamil blood"..
Here comes the "Indian" aka "sell-out" with his more "blah blah.. and thus no support for eelam tamils" argument.. :) Just lol at his post and continue reading the tamil magazines like Nakeeran, Vikatan group, Kumutham group etc..
//tn thamilz said ,Here comes the "Indian" aka "sell-out" with his more "blah blah//
You can proove me otherwise,mate.INC + ADMK swept 40 seats in TN post IPKF fiasco in 1989.Its a fact.
Peter,Rajeev's assassination probably wasn't the easiest decision LTTE ever took.I dont know who ever was behind that,but it was a foolish decision and the Tiger's realised it later.The very fact that they never publicly acknowledged \ claimed responsibility itself says a lot of story.
["Indian: Exactly mate."]
Odd. I have never heard a Tamil Nadu person use the word mate, but Sinhalese use it in every single sentence. Very odd.
Sri Lanka uses banned chemical Weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TOEQGl1FJ0
So all you Monkeys want to use Toiletnadu as the base to nurture terrorism, smuggle explosives, weapons, and Communications Equipment to Sri Lanka?
Did Karunanidhi asked you to send him a threatening letter, so that he can show he is a 'victim', but still can support LTTE in undercover?
continue reading the tamil magazines like Nakeeran, Vikatan group, Kumutham group etc
Yeah right.Thirumavelan,published an article in AV,2 weeks back if I remember right,with pics of TAF.LOL
It was a photoshopped version of this:
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Special2/Iskras/Iskra-Aircraft-13.jpg
Also AV had photoshopped a Mig-21 Bison taking off with TAF \ Tamil eelam written on its fuesalage.But they forgot to blank the serial number of the plane which was so prominent.
tn-thamilz,did you check out AV edition of Mar5th or 12th you will understand what I say
"Indian" aka "sell-out": "blah blah.. blah blah"
not going to happen sell-out.. :)
another single-cell joined with sell-out imposer :). More fun for me.. *where is the pop-corn*
Does anyone have a reference for the "french media" that "has proof" indian army is fighting LTTE in PTK? If you have a reference or a link please post it.
tn thamilz RAW agents have infiltrated into this blog, they are fighting a psychological war :)))
tn thamilz,instead of blah blah blah,answer this if you find time.
-have you broken your undiyal dappa,becoz your teacher said -our people have come from across the sea's for our help,they are homeless and we need to help them.
-have you walked 3-4 kms,as a teenaged boy,as part of a combined agitation organized by all schools in that district to district collectorate to hand over a memorandum to the collector which in turn was to be passed on to CM asking him to intervene in the problem going across the seas?
From that to this,its been a long long journey.You too will realise some day
Bhadri,
That message was posted by some blogger with handle laptop something.Check back the comments.He might be of help to you.
"Sri Lankan government uses chemical weapons"
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/sri-lankan-army-used-chemical-weapons-tamils-war-zones
Ok people,nice chatting with you Peter\tn thamiz.See you tomorrow
"Indian" aka "Sell-out" wrote: "more blah blah.. my undiyal broke.. blah blah.. me walk 3-4 km. blah blah"..
Oooo.. sell-out is enlightened now after the 3-4 km walk. :)All hail the enlightened sell-out :)*bows down*
Roy, if "me tamil from India, don't care tamil in sl.. Rajeev blah blah" comes to the forum and only targets eelam tamils and ignore all the single-cell posts, it is a dead give away who he really is ;)
LOOK WHO IS THE TERRORIST NOW..HEHEHE...AUSTRALIA EVENT IS STILL MAKING HEADLINES...
T clashes between opposing ethnic groups living in Melbourne are tipped to become worse after angry mobs crossed paths in the city at the weekend.
Police have been asked to explain why they allowed two opposing groups with a history of violence to protest in the city at the same time.
YouTube footage shot near Parliament showed one car, part of a convoy of Australian Sri Lankan Tamil Tiger supporters, being attacked by Sinhalese protesters.
At least eight people were injured, two seriously, during the altercations.
The violence continued with at least four Sinhalese shop fronts damaged at Clayton.
Sinhalese spokesman Don Mahindapala said police should be held accountable for the violence.
"It is like putting petrol and fire together," he said.
He said Sinhalese leaders were "trying to keep a lid" on brewing tensions.
Police spokeswoman Melissa Seach said police didn't expect the rallies to cross paths.
Tamal Youth co-ordinator Haran Thanabal said it was likely they would be a target for violence as the protests continued.
Police on horseback were called in to protect more than 1000 Tamil protesters who marched from Spring St to Southbank yesterday.
They were protesting at Sri Lanka's reported use of chemical weapons.
tn thamilz,
You are spot on with that comment. Most so called 'Congress' people like our "Indian" here are quick to pull Rajeev into every conversation, but don't appear to give a damn about what the bandas do. How openly anti-Tamil they are.
Here is a Copy&Paste from DW
sinhale said...
Looks like the military portion of the war is coming to an end. Now we have to tackle the Die-Ass-Paraya propaganda Tamils in foreign lands. They are now trying to spread rumors about Tamil women being sterilized in the welfare camps.
THE IDIOTS DO NOT REALIZE THAT WE DO NOT WANT TAMIL WOMEN TO BE STERILIZED. WE WANT THEM TO BEAR CHILDREN OF THE GLORIOUS SRI LANKAN FORCES.
These Tamil women will produce the future guardians of the Sri Lankan Nation and Sri Lanka. This is going to be similar to baby boom after world war 2 except that this is going to be Sri Lankan baby boom by Tamil women for the security of mother Lanka from Tamil Die- Ass – Parayas.
So You sakkily mf LTTE goats and cocksucker Die-Ass-Paraya Tamils note that weather you like it or not, you are going to produce our Mother Lanka babies who will defend our country from you Tamil Terrorists.
And the funny part is that after producing those babies to guard our nation, we will not let you into mother Lanka, but you can kiss our ass from foreign lands.
April 8, 2009 8:17 AM
Chennai (IANS): Police cases were filed against 30 lawyers here on Wednesday after they protested and tore pictures of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Congress president Sonia Gandhi, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi and Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa, police said.
The lawyers were holding protests in the Madras High Court premises against these leaders' alleged apathy towards sufferings of minority Tamils in Sri Lanka, police said.
Don Mahindapala is the man who writes BS about 'unitary state' at all given opportunities.
Now, even he is saying Tamils and Sinhalese need to be kept separate, because of their 'history of violence' against each other.
Peter...
do u have contact with those who organise the uk protest..as i have got an idea that will produce a greater negative impact on sri lanka image..
OTTAWA — A group of Tamil protesters resumed their demonstration in downtown Ottawa Wednesday morning, demanding that Canada act to end what they call a genocide in Sri Lanka.
John Antanrajakumar, 49, who came from Toronto with his wife and children, said the protesters are calling for an immediate ceasefire by the Sri Lankan government.
"Until then, we'll be here," he said Wednesday morning. "It is going to continue."
Antanrajakumar was one of about 30 protesters who camped overnight near Parliament Hill following the demonstration, which disrupted the afternoon commute in the nation's capital on Tuesday.
Demonstrators with flags and banners lined the sidewalk, drumming and chanting "Break the silence" and "Stop the genocide."
A civil war between the Sri Lankan army and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam has been going on for more than two decades, with the Tigers fighting, they say, to protect the country's ethnic Tamil minority.
In recent months, pressure for a ceasefire has increased, as government forces encroach into territory held by the Tigers. The protesters claim their rally was triggered by the Sri Lankan government's use of chemical weapons.
Peter,
Re: about the DW post, What else do you expect from animal breed? As per their own history, their family tree starts from an animal screwing a women. Even though they live in a civilized world, they have to make such low life comments to look good among the animal breeds :)
badri....about the French News Agency report
the war going on in northern part of Sri Lanka, along with SLA, lots of Indian militrary person also get mingled. And Indian Commanders are leading SLA to step forward the war, said French News Agency. SLA is using its full strength to destroy LTTE and they are using powerful weapons which are not used so far. India is the sole reason for the war and India is leading force, are all the news so far but with no evidence. But now, a French News Agency had published the news that which are shocking and blood freezing. The News Agency said:
When there was a heavy fighting with LTTE, SLA’s 58th division militrary force had met with severe attack without single men alive. That militrary force get stagnated in the war, where there Indian soldiers joined in that force and made it. This Indian force jointly with sinhala cadres is making their attack in northern Sri Lanka. As the same 59th Division force also consists of 50 percent of Indian forces.
Other than these, the Indian Commanders are planning the war tactics and leading the SLA to execute the war plan said the News Agency.
It is also reminded that, in the warfront, more than 200 cadres defeated and killed by LTTE are from Indian army and their deadbodies are sent to Pune behind the screen. Also when LTTE attacked Kalmadukualm Dam most of cadres are killed were belongs to Indian Army. It is noted that, 3 Radar Engineers of India are get injured in this attack.
Even now, the war in Pudukudiyiruppu had resulted in large casualities and more than 125 Indian Armymen’s deadbodies are sent to chennai, and they are kept in Nugambakkam Medical College said the reliable news sources from Medical college surroundings.
In this situation, the French News Agency news publication made a alert wave.
It is good to see that the next generation spearheading the agitation now.
m.q.k,
No direct contact with anyone. Nowadays, students are leading everything. Older people are giving support but taking a backseat.
Post your idea here if it can be shared; I am sure someone will forward it onto relevant people.
Or if it is very important, post it as a comment on the 'about' page on my blog at peterratna.wordpress.com / moderation is on so no one else will get to see it/ I'll forward it as a circular if relevant.
tn thamilz,
Although the comment by the banda sounds silly, rape is a major worry for all. Women as bounty have always been used to motivate soldiers on foreign land. What else from Sinhala men be fighting for? Sinhala soldiers also have a history of it.
With all the reports coming to open about IA leading the attack on the tamils, Cong. is screwed in TN now. Yesterday there was a news segment about it in Makkal TV. Cunning MK is trying to distance himself from it by organizing rallies etc. I hope it will not be too late for the innocents facing the genocide army before IC reacts.
http://www.lankasrinews.com/view.php?2b34OX14a3255AIe4d4YOo6ca0ac4BP34d3BTmA3e0dA0Mm4ce04cYdJ0cc3vlYAde
Hey.. This banner sums up I guess!
Got the message?
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/651/ltte.jpg
Another ICRC worker killed today in shelling in safe zone:
http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/sri-lanka-news-080409?OpenDocument
Shelling in Safe Zone!
Shelling the Sage Zone only benefits LTTE. Therefore, why GOSL shell the Safe Zone?
You have to be logical in your thinking.
Do not you think that LTTE is the culprit who shells its own people to get PR mileage?
If LTTE shells your relatives in the Safe Zone, is it OK?
ALAIGAL OIVATHILLAI
Lol. LTTE is in the safe-zone and also bombing the safe-zone. It is killing the people in the safe-zone because that is the way to keep them there. If civilians weren't getting bombed in safe-zone, they will leave to move into Sinhala detention camps.
NOLTTE=Peace For Sinhalese!
I'm honoured..(than Karthik Muthuraman and Radha).
You took great trouble to create another account..!
peter..
comment done on ur blog...
what u think abt the idea...
Peter,
LTTE has learned from you and taken your advice..
Remember.. "Any PR is GOOD PR"?
Throughout its history, LTTE committed much more atrocities to their own people just to get PR mileage!
Now, they are doing the same to find an exist. It is not a laughing matter at all!
m.g.k
Very good idea. But it may take some time to have its affects.
But, as you know, we need changes within this month.
Immediate option maybe targeting retail stores in West.
But your idea will certainly be implemented in the long-term.
I'll forward it on for monthly news-letter.
NDTV breaking news:
Intelligence sources warn LTTE attack on Sonia and other VVIP leaders.
Early indications are that bandas used mustard gas.
Trying desperately hard to retrieve bodies to use as evidence.
UN and ICRC have refused to investigate.
Interesting blast from the past: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/11/20/sbm.iraq.galbraith/
"NDTV is a Congress mouthpiece," says an Indian commenter at The Economist. It is trying to cool tensions in TN by inventing LTTE threats.
abt " Indianguy---lookie I am Tamil" fellow:
I think either he is North Indian if at all, and more likely a Sinhala in India(eg Consular/Intelligence staff) whose job is to downplay Tamil support of SL Tamils.
1.A TN Tamil NEVER spells Badri as " Bhadri" becos Badri is the proper spelling of the name here.Bhadri is not a name in Tamil, or indeed among Dravidians, but a given name in North Indian system( they also have Badri as a different name). Hence he is either a North Indian or Sinhala. But a North Indian has no need to masquerade as Tamil while simultaneously dissing them--hence he is likely a Sinhala impostor.
2.He is living in fools paradise if he thinks major publications like Ananda Vikatan, Kumutham,Nakkeeran, NDTV etc showing massive support for SLTamils/ltte is bullshit but his own single opinion trumps these scientific surveys.Infact this makes it very likely he is an interested party(i e Sinhala) rather thn Tamil--who would have acknowledged the tell-tale evidence of support even if he disagrees with ltte.
3.There is a small chance he is an 'aiyar' 'tamil' like Nram/Subramanian swamy who are paid by the Sinhalas for their services.Even they wont spell 'Bhadri'.
Why LTTE shoots civilians who tries to leave the Safe Zone???
Peter?
Junior vikatan also reports about the arrival of 102 seriously injured Indian soldier from Pudhukudiyiruppu, who according to reports are kept at Nandambakkam military .
Further it says Prabhakaran has gone into Vanni jungle with a handful of Tigers and vowed that even if the army enters the forest, they will not get hold of even his ashes.
It more or less confirms loss of senior commanders and around 200 and odd Tigers, quoting vanni sources.
LTTE isn't even doing anything in Colombo at the moment.
It won't do anything in India.
In fact, it hasn't done anything in India for last 18 years.
NOLTTE=Peace,
What else do you expect people in Sinhala army controlled areas to say?
Say that they staid in Vanni by choice and expect to remain alive in the detention center?
Your guys couldn't resist attacking a guy win Melbourne who called LTTE 'freedom fighters'. I only wonder what would happen to such people in the detention centers.
Yes, as Peter says NDTV is known to be closer to the Congress.
So Badri, you've decided to 'unmoderate'? Smart choice, seems like.
Peter, you said: Rajeev's assassination probably wasn't the easiest decision LTTE ever took. But, it has to be seen in the context of the previous history between him and us.
The arrogance in your statement is breathtaking, in fact it is similar to the arrogance as often India is accused of in her dealings with her neighbours. Historical context? So I guess that justifies the murder of a country's leader, LTTE as executioner. Fine line of thinking.
There was no justification. It is all realpolitik. India played a bloody game in SL, Rajiv was murdered by a terrorist organization. These are facts. No context or reason changes any of them.
Another fact: that account is yet to be closed.
And yeah for the newcomers, I'm Indian, although not from TN :)
Only words I know of Tamil are Thambi and Sapad.
ashokkumar2103,
From the south of PTK, we have forest all the way to Amparai. Not many years ago, boys and girls who joined th LTTE in Amparai, Batticaloa and Trinco, walked to Vanni for training.
When cadres slip into forest, SLA has no chance. They can roll up main roads, capture towns and kill civilians. Other than that, they have little chance in jungle combat with few cadres in the vast forest. They also lose their air/arty advantage in such terrain.
only 2 Reasons for pixelation of corpses I can think of--
--they reproduced same photo twice(for numbers), or, it has some tell-tale evidence(gas/napalm/chemical etc)
So, 65000 people who risked life and reached the GOSL need to lie to survive right??
.. and how about the LTTE cadres who confessed and gave them up at the IDP camps?? Did they lie to survive too?
Why all the LTTE Monkeys live on denial?
If LTTE treats them well, why 65000 people risked their lives???
May be the threat to Sonia is being spread by RAW to neutralize anti - congress mood spreading in Tamilnadu.
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