Monday, April 6, 2009

Rumors the Sri Lankan military used chemical weapons

There have been rumors going around that the Sri Lankan military used chemical weapons yesterday in its battle against the LTTE. We do not have proof one way or the other, but two odd points cast doubts on the government. For the first time ever, pictures of the dead LTTE bodies have unusual burn wounds and skin peeling off in many places. In the past the bodies have never had such wounds. Secondly, the Sri Lankan military has blurred out parts of the dead fighters' bodies, most commonly the face (but many faces are also left unblured, so they are not trying to hide the person's identity). There are no signs of blood in the blured out area, so the only logical conclusion is that they want to hide the oddly peeled and burnt skin, which would be most visible on the exposed face. Below are a few examples of these wounds:




In the photo above, why is his chest blurred out? There is no sign of a bullet wound, but you can see a rash or burn around his neck and the blurred area, plus his skin is peeling off on many places.





















Why did the Sri Lankan government blur out the faces in the top row, but not the faces below:





What are they trying to hide by blurring out the faces? There are no signs of bullet wounds there, and they obviously aren't hiding their identity, because other faces are being shown. It is possible they are trying to cover up signs of peeling and burnt skin, which would be most visible on the exposed faces.

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coolasice said...

LTTE is a disgrace to all rebellions in the world.Beggin for ceasefire. Just try till you die rather than beggin for life...

m.q.k said...

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main41.asp?filename=Ne180409to_catch.asp

"“If you defy us,” said Dixit puffing angrily at his pipe, “We can finish you before I put out this smoke.” Four months later, the Indian army was locked in a disastrous conflict with the LTTE that was expected to finish in under a week but went on to last nearly three years, claiming the lives of 1,155 Indian soldiers."

Indian said...

//Looking at the 'shoe throwing' protests against the ITALIAN MAFIA Indian government, it appears that BJP is going to capture power and will transform back India from Nazism to Gandhism soon//
Aha.So after "Tamils for Obama",now we have "Tamils for NDA".Oops,let me rephrase that -"Eelam Tamils for Obama" and now "Eelam Tamils for NDA".LOL

Its really funny to see you people talk about Gandhism?
Apparently seems your Gandhism includes killing your own people who have different views(Amirthalingam \ Yogi \ Padmanabha etc) and launching suicide attacks.
Very interesting.

Someone said,only 5 more days for elections etc.Elections are a whole 1 month and 3 days away in TN.The first phase goes to polling on 16th.Srilankan problem is a non issue on the states going for polls on 16th.

coolasice said...

kk gud. Dont ever dream of comin to the island south of india then.Separatist people like u hav no place in sri lanka...

Unknown said...

m.q.k sweety,

Why are you running away man ( or most probably u are a girl)? Lets talk about it. Don't just copy n paste. It proves that you don't know anything what happens and you are a coward...

coolasice said...

Hey btw is ltte still tactically withdrawin in north.....

m.q.k said...

donsar begger..

i dont want to interrupt u having shit meal..finish it up...

Gayansphotography said...

Nadesan gives interview (or did he).. WOW....one great step towards Ealam.....

Gayansphotography said...

m.g.k ... u repeat the word "shit" in almost all of your posts..... "shit" must be very close to your heart to have such a close association with you.... :D

coolasice said...

Nadeshan we no that you r a coward. Dont feel ashmed to say that "Hey world we r realy weak now. Please give us ceasefire So we can live one more day ". I think sri lankan government will think of doin to these poor guys if they come in that way.. Stop all these and beg my dear friends beg for a ceasefire.....

Roy Muller said...

@ Indian Gandhism is good for Indians , esp for the NON Aryans such as the Dalits, Sikh, Muslims, Assamese , Kashmiris etc LTTE terrorism is needed fight Sinhala Aryans Nazism ..

m.q.k said...

Thoughtful Guy said...i repeat it so u wont be in shock when shit lanka serves u that...

Unknown said...

m.q.k sweety,

Time is up. It proves that you are a real coward and from your words a real modaya who only know to call others fkrs n modayas. go back to your 5hit hall baby...

m.q.k said...

donsar... Heee ..u are as good as ur gov setting up deadlines hahah...but couldn't get the job done...each time postponing the deadline..shameful..thats what happen when u eat shit..control it shit intake donsar...

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Direct from Nadesan:

Question: What is your reaction to reports that Prabakaran’s son, Charles Antony, has been injured in the fighting?

"This is false propaganda from the Sri Lankan government. He is not injured."

Anonymous said...

[Indian said ....
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Its really funny to see you people talk about Gandhism?
Apparently seems your Gandhism includes killing your own people who have different views(Amirthalingam \ Yogi \ Padmanabha etc) and launching suicide attacks.
Very interesting. ....]


Dear INDIAN,
you must get the history correctly first before talking like a singhala modaya (do you know what modaya means?).

TAMILs in shit lanka did follow Gandhism for 30+ years and consistently received violent retaliation from the singhala barbarians. MORE than 3 decades of following GANDHISM shows that the it was NOT easy to transform the TAMILS struggle for self-determination into a violent one!!



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m.q.k said...

MORE PRISON TO BE OPENED...

Apr 10, Colombo: Sri Lanka government has established four new villages[PRISON] in Pulmoddai area in Trincomalee to settle the civilians fleeing from rebel held areas.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Again Nadesan:

"Question: Are Indian soldiers on the battleground fighting the LTTE along side the Sri Lankan army?

I can say that a very high level of military cooperation exists between the Sri Lankan and Indian governments."

I interpret this answer as meaning there are no indian soldiers at the front lines, but there are Indians assisting from command centers, intelligence, etc.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Gandhi only pretended to fast till death. Dileepan was the real Gandhian, even greater than Gandhi himself.

Anonymous said...

[Indian said ...

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Someone said,only 5 more days for elections etc.Elections are a whole 1 month and 3 days away in TN.The first phase goes to polling on 16th.Srilankan problem is a non issue on the states going for polls on 16th. ...]


This Indian thinks, writes like a typical singhala modaya!

Why do you bring in TN elections into this? This election is taking place all over INDIA and attacks on congress using shoes are taking place everywhere and these shoe throwing are not related to Tamil's issue in Shit Lanka. Have I made myself clear to you?


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Editor: "Badrinath" said...

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main41.asp?filename=Ne180409a_ceasefire.asp

m.q.k said...

Editor: "Badrinath" said...
Gandhi only pretended to fast till death. Dileepan was the real Gandhian, even greater than Gandhi himself.

YES..THAT IS SOMETHING EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE NOTICE...

m.q.k said...
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m.q.k said...

donsar EAT UR SHIT AND FUCK OFF...

Indian said...

Bhadri,
//Gandhi only pretended to fast till death. Dileepan was the real Gandhian, even greater than Gandhi himself//
Thats absolute hogwash and you know it.Isnt it?
Comparing the Mahatma with Dileepan.

Anyways,this Tehelka interview by Nadesan,was it done through phone or by email.I think Nadesan's interview to CNN-IBN sometime back was my email.

Gayansphotography said...

Badri.... yes yes.. "Dileepan" is greater than Gandhi...and Praba is a greater hero than everyone else put together and multiplied by 10....
:D

anyways, any battle field news? (hope u won't dodge this question)

Anonymous said...

[Indian said...

//Looking at the 'shoe throwing' protests against the ITALIAN MAFIA Indian government, it appears that BJP is going to capture power and will transform back India from Nazism to Gandhism soon//
Aha.So after "Tamils for Obama",now we have "Tamils for NDA".Oops,let me rephrase that -"Eelam Tamils for Obama" and now "Eelam Tamils for NDA".LOL ...]



THERE IS NOTHING STRANGE in asking for help from everywhere to fight singhala genocide of tamils. Tamils are asking in canada, australia, europe ..... NDA is one of them in the list. Tamils also appealed to the godmother too!!



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m.q.k said...

Indian said..
Anyways,this Tehelka interview by Nadesan,was it done through phone or by email.

..u so are sooo smart...can he laugh through email...thats a new discovery...

Anonymous said...

[m.q.k said...

Indian said..
Anyways,this Tehelka interview by Nadesan,was it done through phone or by email.

..u so are sooo smart...can he laugh through email...thats a new discovery... ]


YES WHY NOT.

"HAAAA HEEEE LAAA HOOO"

did you hear/read me smiling :-)


THIS IS WHAT INDIAN IS GOING TO SAY.



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Indian said...

m.q.k said
Oh ok.I didnt read the interview link posted yet.Just saw that he had given interview.
CNN-IBN did a interview with Nadesan where they had sent questions and got replies.
Same was done by some tamil magazine as well sometime back.

m.q.k said...

{mahindan10 said...

YES WHY NOT.

"HAAAA HEEEE LAAA HOOO"

did you hear/read me smiling :-)

THIS IS WHAT INDIAN IS GOING TO SAY.}

HeHehe..u are soo funny... yes i can hear u...hehehe..

Roy Muller said...

@ m.g.k,

May be Nadeson used smiley icon in the e-mail (wink*wink). God help these RAW agents

m.q.k said...

Isira said...
m.q.k said...

donsar SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT

hahah..great help isira for pointing out donsar is shit..

Indian said...

//m.q.k said...
u so are sooo smart...can he laugh through email...thats a new discovery...//
Just read the interview in the link posted by Bhadri.
This is what is mentioned there.

//What is Prabakaran’s reaction to reports that the Sri Lankan army is trying to capture him alive?
He laughs [at such reports].

How does Prabakaran react to the Sri Lankan government’s charge that he is a coward who does not lead from the front?
Again, he laughs.//

Nadesan has mentioned that VP laughs at those reports.So my question is still valid.I think this too was an email interview.The last time,Nadesan gave a telephonic interview,it was to NDTV

m.q.k said...

indian said..

{Anyways,this Tehelka interview by Nadesan,was it done through phone or by email.}

Roy Muller...

The guy didnt even read the interview yet he could claim with confident it was done by phone or EMAIL..i wonder what is the purpose of indian being here...

Anonymous said...

Indian,

Again, he laughs.//


here 'he' refers to Nadesan!


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Roy Muller said...

@ m.g.k

You shud ask "tn tamilz" to know more abt this character .. to me its merely a RAW plant . Anyway dont feed it's troll. Its on a Intelligence gathering mission

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

If anyone is involved in these protests, tell the participants to always mention chemical weapons when talking to the press. These are key words that people in the west take note of.

Anonymous said...

[ Roy Muller said...

@ m.g.k

You shud ask "tn tamilz" to know more abt this character .. to me its merely a RAW plant . Anyway dont feed it's troll. Its on a Intelligence gathering mission ..]



I AGREE. This agent is worried that if the GODMOTHER is defeated, his job as a RAW agent may be affected!!



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m.q.k said...

Editor: "Badrinath"....

the words are more frequent in most reports... great news...

m.q.k said...

Roy Muller & mahindan10..

The indian agent is not doing proper job here...making silly mistakes..someone must give him some good tips...

m.q.k said...

indian read this up for ur information gathering..

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main41.asp?filename=Ne180409to_catch.asp

"“If you defy us,” said Dixit puffing angrily at his pipe, “We can finish you before I put out this smoke.” Four months later, the Indian army was locked in a disastrous conflict with the LTTE that was expected to finish in under a week but went on to last nearly three years, claiming the lives of 1,155 Indian soldiers."

Indian said...

mahindan10 said
//I AGREE. This agent is worried that if the GODMOTHER is defeated, his job as a RAW agent may be affected//
LOL.You are so dumb arent you?Intelligence wing agents of any country dont get appointed\fired based on a government change.
But its really weird that you people are pinning so much hopes on NDA
1>First coming back to power
2>Even if it does come back to power,which seems highly unlikely as of now,they helping the Tigers.
Hope that this too doesnt turn futile as it happened with Barrack Obama

Indian said...

m.q.k,
Thanks for the link.I read that already.

When you find time,go through this http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/mar/23lanka.htm

Series of articles done by Rediff.Though the article is 9 years old and doesnt talk about current context,it does give insight into the then IPKF fiasco

Saul said...

Indian- 'Banda Modaya', as I discovered on DW, means trench digger! I think.

Badri, Dileepan compared to Gandhi? Come on.

Anyway, it seems we are all waiting for more news.

Peter said...

No Tamil realistically expects any Indian government to help us. But we do think that a non-Sonia-Congress government would prefer to stay out of our business. Same as Obama and Iraq. While he has no love for Iraqis, he'll pull his troops out, unlike Bush.

m.q.k said...

BANDA CANT GO BACK TO VILLAGE, SHIT LANKA CANT PAY

Friday, April 10, 2009, 15:07 GMT, ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.
Apr 10, Colombo: Sri Lanka's Transport Minister Dullas Alahapperuma today urged the state transport employees who recommenced their strike once again to report to work.

Minister Alahapperuma said that he would give only three more days for the Sri Lanka Transport Board employees to report for their duties.

Following the discussions held with the Passenger Transport Minister Lasantha Alagiyawanna yesterday the unions announced that they have decided to call off the strike as the government agreed to meet their demands within this month.

However, following the announcement by the Transport Minister Alahapperuma over the demand for a cost of living allowance, the unions had continued the strike further.

The Minister said the government has already paid the cost of living allowance to the employees last week. As a result of the tug-of-war between the two parties, bus passengers traveling to their home villages from the Colombo Central Bus Stand for the New Year holidays were seen stranded.

m.q.k said...

peter...what u think of the info i posted on ur blog..

Peter said...

Most Tamils see Sonia-Congress as the reason for Indian backing of Sinhalese, and not India in general.

If it is true that India is fully backing Sinhalese, despite government change, LTTE will be defeated as a conventional force, with no hope of returning to its former glory.

In that case, it will function exclusively as a terrorist organization, meaning no overwhelming control of areas but indiscriminate attacks against all enemies. That will be against India's interest. So, the hope is that the clever few in RAW would want to maintain some sticks.

Saul said...

BTW, triggers for coming under suspicion that you're not a disinterested party- using the words 'mate' and 'Bhadri'.

As in how are you doing Bhadri, mate!

Peter said...

m.g.k

Just read your comment; I don't check my blog that often.

Average of about 15 a day for past six months.

Peter said...

மாவீரர் பணிமனை usually circulates name lists at regular intervals to families of cadres. We have to check through the names to identify. Sad, but that's the reality of the struggle. In 97/98 it was about 10 a day.

m.q.k said...
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Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

Most Tamils see Sonia-Congress as the reason for Indian backing of Sinhalese, and not India in general.

If it is true that India is fully backing Sinhalese, despite government change, LTTE will be defeated as a conventional force, with no hope of returning to its former glory.

In that case, it will function exclusively as a terrorist organization, meaning no overwhelming control of areas but indiscriminate attacks against all enemies. That will be against India's interest. So, the hope is that the clever few in RAW would want to maintain some sticks. ...]


"Terrorist" organization? what happened to PETER?


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Roy Muller said...

@ Indian

perhaps u can watch this vid to clear

Anita Pratap meeting VP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQt5YCVqVNI&feature=PlayList&p=E927215234FDB96A&index=0&playnext=1

Saul said...

LOL, good catch.

m.q.k said...

mahindan10...
terrorist organization, meaning no overwhelming control of areas but indiscriminate attacks against all enemies.

what Peter means that tiger will terrorize shit lanka army without mercy...

Anonymous said...

[Indian said...

mahindan10 said
//I AGREE. This agent is worried that if the GODMOTHER is defeated, his job as a RAW agent may be affected//
LOL.You are so dumb arent you?Intelligence wing agents of any country dont get appointed\fired based on a government change.
But its really weird that you people are pinning so much hopes on NDA
1>First coming back to power
2>Even if it does come back to power,which seems highly unlikely as of now,they helping the Tigers. ...]


SURE? IN INDIA OFFICERS GET TRANSFERRED / MADE TO SUFFER/ GET FIRED every time state or central government changes?


DNDA says congress's polciy on TAMILS is wrong. If NDA helps TAMILS, then it is the same as helping tigers!


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Peter said...

mahindan10,

If India, despite tovernment change, goes fully against LTTE, to the extent of putting its troops on the ground, as is now, LTTE can not survive as a semi-conventional force. That is the reality.

So, at the aftermath of this election, if Sonia-Congress remains in power, or some other party takes throne but carry on same rigorous policy, then LTTE will be forced to become a "terrorist" organization.

In that case, it will become like the Iraqi insurgents over whom no sticks can be deployed. Most of IC recognize this; it is why they call for 'political solution' etc. Bandas, of course, are too banda-fied to relaise that.

RAW, as good as it rates itself, does not want India to become an all out enemy of another "terrorist" group. Rajeev this Rajeev that but LTTE has not carried out attacks in India for 18 years.

So, it is unlikely that India would want to reduce all semi-conventional capabilities of LTTE. But, India is a third world country with all the politics characteristic of such a nation. We can never tell what they will do.

But given, LTTE's international, matured network, the entire region would likely experience instability should the unthinkable happen.

Anonymous said...

[m.q.k said...

Editor: "Badrinath"....

the words are more frequent in most reports... great news... ]




PLEASE CHECK COMMENTS BY Laptop who listed 5-10 web links of new media relaying the chemical weapon usage!!


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Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

mahindan10,

If India, despite tovernment change, goes fully against LTTE, to the extent of putting its troops on the ground, as is now, LTTE can not survive as a semi-conventional force. That is the reality.

So, at the aftermath of this election, if Sonia-Congress remains in power, or some other party takes throne but carry on same rigorous policy, then LTTE will be forced to become a "terrorist" organization. ...]


THE CORRECT WORD IS guerrilla freedom fighters?


i disagree with your theory. irrespective of whatever happens, the ltte has to be focused only on fighting against those occupying the Eelam. The violent fighting should not be taken to another country other than singhala south!

If the ltte takes its fight to another country, it is destroying any chances of tamils winning freedom from the singhalas!


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Peter said...

At the moment, or for past decade, RAW has been fairly confident that LTTE would not want to jeopardize the Tamileelam project by targeting anyone or anything in India.

Of course, it has put some resources to fighting LTTE but nowhere near fighting Islamic groups.

However, should India, rather than Sonia-Congress, work to fully destroy LTTE and annihilate any hope of return to conventional warefare, LTTE will probably target India as well as Sri Lanka in "terrorist" attacks.

Its ability to do so can be debated. It may not get popular support from Tamils for such activity. But, it will happen, given the number of people who are suffering daily.

In that case, RAW will have to put far more resources to tackling LTTE, which would be a drain on India's resources. And Mumbai could happen in Bangalore; India certainly wouldn't want anything of the sort.

That's why, despite all Rajeev talk and Sonina worshiping, I feel that RAW would never allow for LTTE to be completely deprived of conventional capabilities.

Roy Muller said...

@ Peter dont spill the beans :))

This is what the Congress/RAW minions lurking around here what to know from knowledgeable bloggers.

Peter said...

mahindan10,

I hope that it will be return to '80s style attacks. But in my view, it won't happen. Back then they took inspiration from Vietnam and other such struggles.

Now, if all conventional capabilities are destroyed, they will look up to Iraqi insurgents as inspiration. After all, it is they who removed word's most advanced troops from their soil.

Given India's level of involvement, if that carries on, I am afraid the emerging "terrorist" group will see increasing cost for India as a way of convincing it to cease its involvement in Eelam affairs. So the question would be, how much would India risk to involve itself in Eelam affairs?

All indications, as I see them, are that a post-conventional, perhaps post-VP, LTTE would be purely a "terrorist" group, seeking to remove Sinhalese troops from Tamil land by all means possible.

Roy Muller said...

Peter, India is more obessed with LTTE and tamils than with Islamic terrorism. Thats what led to the security lapse of Mumbai. And you think RAW and the Hindian/Mallu/Brahmin minions in S block are smart enough to 4 see the consequences ??

Peter said...

@ Roy Muller

I think most of what I am writing is open knowledge. Some people refuse to accept it; others hope against hope.

If someone has something to lose, they won't take huge risks. Take all that the person has and leave them hopeless, they'll take far bigger risks.

But Sonia-Congress really is playing with fire. That, sadly, is the reality of dynastic politics. US paid for Bush dynasty, will India pay for Nehru-Ghandhi dynasty?

Saul said...

What are the going rates to be a congress minion or RAW, and where can I sign up?

Roy, Peter does not represent the voice of all Tamils, far less the LTTE. He definitely knows more on the subject than I do, but it's just one opinion.

Peter said...

@ Roy Muller

My fear is that the likes Hindu Ram, and that shade of society, probably see any "Tamil terrorist" attack in India as means to furthering their grip on TN. Obviously, they have little regard for their country as a whole.

But I do have genuine fear, a sort of gut feeling, that India would become target by a "terrorist" LTTE, if conventional capabilities are nullified.

Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

@ Roy Muller

I think most of what I am writing is open knowledge. Some people refuse to accept it; others hope against hope.

If someone has something to lose, they won't take huge risks. Take all that the person has and leave them hopeless, they'll take far bigger risks.

But Sonia-Congress really is playing with fire. That, sadly, is the reality of dynastic politics. US paid for Bush dynasty, will India pay for Nehru-Ghandhi dynasty? ...]



SHOE THROWING SUGGESTS that the godmother will lose in the next election and the BJP will have an opportunity to correct the blunders of the italian mafia!


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khanthas said...

800 odd fishermen from Tamil Nadu have been killed by SLN during the last 10 years. Neither the Indian government nor Kolainjar (nor Jeya) has taken any action against SLN. These shameless Indian politicians don’t even take care of their own people, how can you expect them to save others? The worst is that the shameless Indians elect them again and again.

Reveilles-toi Mahatma Gandhi, tes enfants sont devenus fous!

Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

@ Roy Muller

My fear is that the likes Hindu Ram, and that shade of society, probably see any "Tamil terrorist" attack in India as means to furthering their grip on TN. Obviously, they have little regard for their country as a whole.

But I do have genuine fear, a sort of gut feeling, that India would become target by a "terrorist" LTTE, if conventional capabilities are nullified. ...]


I'm SURE that THE LTTE IS SMARTER NOT TO SPOIL THE GOOD WILL OF TN BY resorting to terrorist activities in indian soil!


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Anonymous said...

ENCOURAGING VIJIKANTH!


can anyone write articles on tamilwin puthinam, tamilnet, etc. encouraging Vijikanth to join the AIADMK alliance?


Vijikanth can never win a seat. he is only calling for a boycott. his selfish interest to be called as the 3rd political party. instead of boycotting, Vijikanth should join the alliance, win seats and then attempt to help Tamils from Delhi. He is calling the boycott becoz of Tamils. If he is really interested in Tamils, then he should join the alliance!

If he joins Ama-JJ alliance, then it'll be 40-0 for AMMM-JJ alliance!


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Raja said...

I'm in two minds abount Congress/Sonias policy to Sri Lanka. It doesn't appear to be based on self interest. What does India gain by a Sinhalese victory over the LTTE? Remember, if this is their goal they are antagonizing 60 million of their own citizens in Tamil Nadu to achive that outcome. I'm also not sure if this purely motivated by a personal vandetta. Maybe they are just incompetent. Faced with a belligerent Rajapakse who basically says "F*%& You" whenever someone suggests a ceasefire, they were not assertive, but ignored the problem hoping it would go away. Remember this is same indian government that botched up the IPL and didn't do anything after the Mumbai attacks.

Peter said...

mahindan10,

I'm sure LTTE won't. But once it has lost all, what would it care for?

What has TN done so far? 'Good will' is as good as its results. TN has not been able to stop Indian soldiers from entering Vanni, Indian spy planes from providing data to Sinhalese, Indian bombs from killing Tamils or even Indian cash from funding the war. What has TN done so far?

Even then, TN has done a lot of good in the past, i.e. '80s. Most Eelam Tamils are grateful for that.

But, I don't think a "terrorist" LTTE would pay heed to Tamil concerns. It will most likely operate on a single track of Tamileelam by all means, as the Iraqi insurgents operated on foreign forces out by all means.

Again, this merely my opinion based on conversations with a cross-section of people. TN would probably never be a target of anything. But other parts of India may become, if India's level of involvement continues at same level.

khanthas said...

Roy,

What is the point of goodwill if it is to no-avail ?

Roy Muller said...

Mahinda10, in 3rd world countries only terrorism talks not human rights. What you think is happening in Kashmir, Manipur , Assam ?

Peter said...

Although most talk in TN is about India imposing ceasefire,

What I, and most of us Eelam Tamils want, is India's non-involvement.

LTTE was able to face Sinhalese military for so many years. It still can.

This Eelam war has been all about India. It is India's direct involvement that has been the main reason for our current predicament.

Remember the two who got injured in Vavuniya; that news was leaked. There sure are several well kept secretes.

Roy Muller said...

khanthas, I am all out for LTTE fighting a non conventional war, which will be to its advantage. Considering what happening to the world today, its pointless for LTTE to maintain goodwill at teh expense of a interantioanl sponsored genocide ..

Anonymous said...

[Raja said...

I'm in two minds abount Congress/Sonias policy to Sri Lanka. It doesn't appear to be based on self interest. What does India gain by a Sinhalese victory over the LTTE? Remember, if this is their goal they are antagonizing 60 million of their own citizens in Tamil Nadu to achive that outcome. I'm also not sure if this purely motivated by a personal vandetta. Maybe they are just incompetent. Faced with a belligerent Rajapakse who basically says "F*%& You" whenever someone suggests a ceasefire, they were not assertive, but ignored the problem hoping it would go away. Remember this is same indian government that botched up the IPL and didn't do anything after the Mumbai attacks. ...]


are you missing somethings?

after mumbai attack, RAW attacked SL cricketers in Lahore?


"by a personal vendetta"

of many ...yes: Dixit & Shiv SM were high commissioners in SL during the IPKF.

MK Naray.. was director of the RAW during the IPKF.

Sonia & Rajiv

Pranab to show he is obedient to Indra Congress. Pranab challenged Rajiv soon after Indira G's murder to become the PM in 1980s. Pranab learned a good lesson and now he is determined to prove his pleasure in licking the ass of any Indira G family!


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Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

Although most talk in TN is about India imposing ceasefire,

What I, and most of us Eelam Tamils want, is India's non-involvement.

LTTE was able to face Sinhalese military for so many years. It still can. ..]



Not correct again. Before 1998:

GOSL was alone. now it has pak, china, india, etc. even if you take away india, pak, china can do almost the same.


ltte was banned only in india before 98. now, almost everywhere!


So, we require +ve help from the NDA.

In the statements of many countries (excluding India & SL), the LTTE is not called a terrorist organization recently!


We need to build on this policy change!


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Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["THE CORRECT WORD IS guerrilla freedom fighters?"]

There is a limit to what anyone can tolerate, and I suspect the LTTE will cross its limit soon (with chemical attacks, indian intervention, etc.). When that happens the gloves come off and they will likely allow terrorist attacks in South. After 5,000 to 10,000 civilians have been killed, I won't blame them for anything they do.

Anonymous said...

[Roy Muller said...

khanthas, I am all out for LTTE fighting a non conventional war, which will be to its advantage. Considering what happening to the world today, its pointless for LTTE to maintain goodwill at teh expense of a interantioanl sponsored genocide .. ..]



SL is an island as opposed to IRAQ, KASHMIR, etc. Hence, the good will of the TN is needed even if the TN does not help, the TN people may accept ltte activities there ... THIS IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE weakened ltte!!


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Ashok Kumar said...

Latest opinion survey about Indian elections done by 'The week':

Congress front 234 (Congress 144)

BJP front 186

Third front (Left, ADMK etc) 112

Still initial stages, trend drastically changes along with campaigning.

But obviously it will be a hung assembly.

Congress front tally shoud drop considerably in the coming days.

Without the major chunk of third front's support, neither BJP nor Congress can form the government.

Peter said...

mahindan10,

Pak-China have always been helping Sinhalese. The point it they sell their weapons; when Sinhalese run out of money, as they have now, they go for cease-fire. But, India gives for free. It given provides funds for Sinhalese to buy from ex-Soviet countries.

US ban was on LTTE in '97. Europe and Canada are the only new additions. These two don't make serious efforts in enforcement; as you could probably tell from the looks of the current wave of protests. Amounts these countries have confiscated from LTTE is less than a few million dollars.

Yes USA carried out a sting operation, but that was on two small groups of four people each.

But, the main difference this time around is total Indian involvement. Free flow of unlimited weapons and ammunitions; intelligence, especially naval and air; funds; radar and other specialized equipment; political help and lobbying at UN; list goes on.

If India can stop all that, Tamils won't have huge difficulty facing the Sinhalese. Any help would be welcome but it won't be an absolute necessity. What is necessary is that India stops its involvement.

Anonymous said...

[Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["THE CORRECT WORD IS guerrilla freedom fighters?"]

There is a limit to what anyone can tolerate, and I suspect the LTTE will cross its limit soon (with chemical attacks, indian intervention, etc.). When that happens the gloves come off and they will likely allow terrorist attacks in South. After 5,000 to 10,000 civilians have been killed, I won't blame them for anything they do. ...]


chemical attacks on the GOSL can be viewed differently from "chemical attacks on civilians'

terrorist attacks in the south is TOTALLY different from terrorist attacks in the north, i.e. in india.

why the ltte did not target economically important places like burning (arson attacks) some garment factories in the FTZ at nights when there is no civilians around?

arson attacks on a couple of big garment factories will be highly destructive if done without harming lives!



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khanthas said...

From where comes the determination of these wonderful Tamil youths fasting unto death?

They are now moving stones following Gandhi..

Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

mahindan10,

Pak-China have always been helping Sinhalese. The point it they sell their weapons; when Sinhalese run out of money, as they have now, they go for cease-fire. But, India gives for free. It given provides funds for Sinhalese to buy from ex-Soviet countries.

US ban was on LTTE in '97. Europe and Canada are the only new additions. These two don't make serious efforts in enforcement; as you could probably tell from the looks of the current wave of protests. Amounts these countries have confiscated from LTTE is less than a few million dollars.

Yes USA carried out a sting operation, but that was on two small groups of four people each.

But, the main difference this time around is total Indian involvement. Free flow of unlimited weapons and ammunitions; intelligence, especially naval and air; funds; radar and other specialized equipment; political help and lobbying at UN; list goes on.

If India can stop all that, Tamils won't have huge difficulty facing the Sinhalese. Any help would be welcome but it won't be an absolute necessity. What is necessary is that India stops its involvement. ...]


i do not agree. Whatever India is doing can be substituted by pak or china. india doing all these to make sure that china / pak do not come close. earlier, there were reports of pak piloets flying slaf fighter planes!


it may be true that usa, canada etc. conficated only a small amount of money. But in reality, 100s of donors and active money collectors would have been deterred from contributing. so, the cost is v. v. high!


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Peter said...

As things stand at the moment, India is 100% acting against Tamils.

'Good will' in TN has made no practical difference to Tamils; India's support for Sinhalese goes unabated.

TN's 'human-chains' and even 'aid' collection have summed to zero. What happened to the money kolaingar collected from everyone including cine stars?

If India's involvement continues as is, and another few thousand Tamils are killed while LTTE's conventional capabilities are nullified, that organization will have to reassess its options.

TN's 'good will' would be weighted in terms of what it was able to achieve. Since 2006, TN's 'good will' has not been able to stop a single Tamil death; it has not been able to reduce the number Indian shells falling on Tamil heads by even one.

What is TN's 'good will' worth? Sorry if I sound ungrateful, but I care about lives, not mere sentiments.

Ashok Kumar said...

Ramadoss and Vaiko are literally boiling over Karunanidhi's speech yesterday.

It is totally unacceptable.

He had appealed to Rajapakse that he should treat the defeated Prabhakaran with dignity like Great Alexander did for King Purushothaman alias Paras.

Mahinda the butcher of civilians,compared to Alexander?

Prabhakaran defeated?

Is this Karunanidhi wishful thinking?

Anonymous said...

[ashokkumar2103 said...

Latest opinion survey about Indian elections done by 'The week':

Congress front 234 (Congress 144)

BJP front 186

Third front (Left, ADMK etc) 112

Congress front tally shoud drop considerably in the coming days.

Without the major chunk of third front's support, neither BJP nor Congress can form the government. ...]




videos of shoe throwing will have some effects soon. we can only pray for more 'shoes to fly at congress"



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Peter said...

mahindan10,

LTTE's funds have not dried. There have been no complaints or SOS for funds. We would know if they needed more money.

India is substituting Pak-China for free, that is the problem. Pak pilots flew for money. That's why taking out economic targets in '90s and early '00 had some impact. India does it all for free. And Pak soldiers never went on the ground to fight LTTE.

Take radar for example. China sold one for US$ 8million. India gave two for free. Countries sell military equipment; I won't be bothered by that. But, giving for free is equal to waging war by proxy.

So many raids in the past never cause injuries to Pak or Chinese 'technicians'. We all know what happened in Vavuniya.

Roy Muller said...

Mahinda10, there is something you should have realised by now, you cant depend on India (TN) and IC ....

Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

As things stand at the moment, India is 100% acting against Tamils.

'Good will' in TN has made no practical difference to Tamils; India's support for Sinhalese goes unabated. ...]


Yes, becoz all actors in the central have grudge against tamils from the 1987-1992 (I listed these in my comments above) period and the state-TN cannot do as the DMK-KK is also with the centre.


if the centre does not have such a heavy grudge against the eelam tamils, then goodwill of the TN can work and we'll have to give the opportunity to c the outcome!


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Ashok Kumar said...

Karunanidhi will not speak anything just like that. He is very clever in playing with words and knows what he wants to convey.

Why did he speak like this?

He must be getting intelligence reports.

Or he must be aware of the centre's military moves. They must be planning to trap Prabhakaran somehow.

Still, how can he compare Mahinda with Alexander? Even sinhalese have not told something so stupid.

Anonymous said...

[Roy Muller said...

Mahinda10, there is something you should have realised by now, you cant depend on India (TN) and IC .... ]


100% correct. Irrespective of this, can we afford to antagonize all at once?

I'm really glad to see the LTTE mentioned without 'terrorist' label by officials politicians from EU, USA, Canada, etc. WE MUST BUILD ON THIS!


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Peter said...

mahindan10,

It is a 'grudge' that hasn't dissipated in 18 years. It probably never will. That's what I said was the sad reality of dynastic politics.

World has changed in 18 years, but Indian foreign policy hasn't. World is such now that the LTTE can survive as a "terrorist" entity of a hundred or so cadres without the overwhelming help of TN.

LTTE needs India and TN to survive as a conventional force and gain independence for Tamileelam in the 'traditional' manner. If TN can not help LTTE survive as a conventional entity by influencing India to pull out of the war, then TN's value for LTTE would be zero.

Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

mahindan10,

LTTE's funds have not dried. There have been no complaints or SOS for funds. We would know if they needed more money.

India is substituting Pak-China for free, that is the problem. Pak pilots flew for money. That's why taking out economic targets in '90s and early '00 had some impact. India does it all for free. And Pak soldiers never went on the ground to fight LTTE.

Take radar for example. China sold one for US$ 8million. India gave two for free. Countries sell military equipment; I won't be bothered by that. But, giving for free is equal to waging war by proxy.

So many raids in the past never cause injuries to Pak or Chinese 'technicians'. We all know what happened in Vavuniya. ..]



all these are becoz of "old grudge" + "trying to keep away pak & China.

china also gave many soft loans to the gosl. as i said before, India can be replaced perfectly by selling trinco, palali, etc. to china.


we'll have to pray for the BJP government and then have to watch how the BJP handles the gosl's threat that "if india does not help, i'll go to china" !


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Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

mahindan10,

It is a 'grudge' that hasn't dissipated in 18 years. It probably never will. That's what I said was the sad reality of dynastic politics. ..]


without the godmother, all other former indian governments (including congress N. Rao's) had genuinely hands-off policy! so, we'll have to pray for NDA-BJP victory!



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Peter said...

mahindan10,

India can be replaced, but at a cost. So do we want India doing the dirty work for free or China et. al, doing it at a cost?

"Old grudge" can't age for much longer without serious consequences.

I too hope that Sonia-Congress is removed from power for the betterment of our people. At the same time, I am also resigned to the fact that events may out pace diplomacy when we have 300 Tamils dieing every single day.

Peter said...

I have to go for the day. This has been a 'healthy' discussion.

No more time for treating India as the 'elephant in the room'.

We can't save Tamils unless we are very clear on who is doing the killing.

Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

mahindan10,

India can be replaced, but at a cost. So do we want India doing the dirty work for free or China et. al, doing it at a cost?

"Old grudge" can't age for much longer without serious consequences.

I too hope that Sonia-Congress is removed from power for the betterment of our people. At the same time, I am also resigned to the fact that events may out pace diplomacy when we have 300 Tamils dieing every single day. ..]


i agree now :-) our strategy to India's new BJP government should be "Singhala only SL is much worse than two nations (Tamil & Sinhala) for India" AND "Tamils in India will never demand separation as long as they're treated well by the centre as has been the case since india's independence" (while tamils in shit lanka are subjected to a genocide)!


yes, it's been around 200-300 hundreds from 21st of Jan and we cannot last like this much longer!


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Anonymous said...

[Peter said...

I have to go for the day. This has been a 'healthy' discussion. ...]

i also think so ... time to go to bed!

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Eelam Tamil said...

Some Collection of Articles which analyzes the India's fate at the Hand of Sinhella Sri Lanka

Will Sri Lanka continue to be `pro-India` once the LTTE threat ends?


http://www.topix.net/forum/world/sri-lanka/TDI2JB4DB0OU45VHP#c15

Unknown said...

End of puligals sooooooooooooooooooon

Thusitha said...

this is what TamilNet has to say

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29000

SLA loudspeakers calling for the civilians to 'surrender' were heard faintly and unintelligibly amidst shell blasts, civilians said.

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Your supreme LTTE fighters are now inside NFZ. Is this how you guys want to be known as one day. Fighters who hid within civilians? When U.S attacked Iraq, if Bath party did the same thing, they would have prolonged the war as well. But even they didn't do this, because they care about the people. If they said the American are going to rape our women, Genocide blah blah blah, they could have prolonged the war for every one.

Saul said...

Oh, oh. Why do I think you're not the original Badri?

Unknown said...

fake people on this blog just shows how cowardly you are just like the sla.

http://www.tamileelamonline.com/en/Main_Page

TamilPower.com said...

Sinhala people are talking that few of our leaders and few hundreds of LTTE fighters were killed in the latest attack but they don't know that around 1500 SLAF were killed by our fighters on the same day. SLAF suffered heavily that's the reason they didn't start the fighting until April 8th. I think latest fighting would probably give a lesson to the SLAF how our fighters are very brave. LTTE is not over yet. Wait and See.

Unknown said...

இலங்கையில் ஏற்பட்டுள்ள மனித அவலம் குறித்து ஜக்கிய நாடுகள் பாதுகாப்பு சபையில் விவாதம் ஒன்று இடம்பெற்றுவருகின்றது.



அமெரிக்காவின் தெற்காசிய விவகாரங்களுக்கான பிரதி அமைச்சர் ரிச்சட் பௌச்சர் தலைமையில் இந்த விவாதம் இடம்பெற்றுவருவதாக தெரிவிக்கப்படுகிறது.

ஓஸ்திரியா, கொஸ்டாரிக்கா, அமெரிக்கா, பிரான்ஸ், நோர்வே, யப்பான், இங்கிலாந்து மற்றும் சீனா உள்ளிட்ட நாடுகள் இந்த விவாதத்தில் கலந்து கொண்டுள்ளதாக மேலும் தெரிவிக்கப்படுகிறது. தற்போது இடம்பெற்றுவருகின்ற இந்த விவாதம் இலங்கையில் ஏற்பட்டுள்ள மனித அவலம் தொடர்பாக இடம்பெறுகின்ற 2 ஆவது விவாதம் என்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது.

Thusitha said...

SuthaS said...
Sinhala people are talking that few of our leaders and few hundreds of LTTE fighters were killed in the latest attack but they don't know that around 1500 SLAF were killed by our fighters on the same day. SLAF suffered heavily that's the reason they didn't start the fighting until April 8th. I think latest fighting would probably give a lesson to the SLAF how our fighters are very brave. LTTE is not over yet. Wait and See.

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Upload some photos, the same way SLA have done. That would be a good moral boost for you guys. It would be a moral boost for all Tamil people.

TamilPower.com said...

Thushitha Said..
Upload some photos, the same way SLA have done. That would be a good moral boost for you guys. It would be a moral boost for all Tamil people.

Thushitha you know that LTTE is fighting very hard and they even leave their dead fighters when they leave the zone. How they can provide details of dead SLAF? You know many SLAF were killed on the Unceasing Waves and the SriLankan Government didn't publish any pictures of them. Please find the reality. No other media is presenting on the battle field except Sinhalese Pro-Government media. We Tamils know the truth and we know the pain of the war. Sinhala people will know their own casualaties when the war is over and that time Rajapakse Brothers will have to answer to the questions provided by lost SLAF soldiers.

TamilPower.com said...

Mr Wijayapal you know that DBS Jeyaraj is an asshole*. What does he know about LTTE? Moreon. I can even write an article beautifully like him but I am a patriotic guy and not a traitor. DBS Jeyaraj modified the same story of Sri Lankan Government. Now think about Taleban. Nato Forces are fighting against Taleban and they cannot win the war and the American now wants to have a talk with Taliban. As I said earlier LTTE is not over yet.

Saul said...

Dude he's not Badri.

Or, if he is, then we have Mahen Mark II. But I doubt it.

Gayansphotography said...

hey badri....what happened to the blog about 6 hours back? it was redirecting to tamilnet. I thought that u too had closed down shop had accidentley achieved Ealam...

anyways, how successful have you been in getting the IC n your side? after 20 years of trying and stratergising a lot must have been achieved, don't you think so?

So so....according to you (and the other LTTE coolies here) everything that has happened from Maavilaru to this point is nothing but a cunning LTTE plan, am I correct?

And for the LTTE what matters most is not whether they hold 1/3 of the country and 15000Sq.Km blah blah..but how many protests are done in London and how many telegrams are sent by TN politicians to Delhi, isnt it?

And according to you as the 59th,58th and the 53rd are "decimated" (with 5381 SLA killed, who would forget that report) who is fighting against the LTTE is Indian soldiers using Pakistani and Chinese weapons and American/British backing...seems like the whole world is out to get you. So what is the guarantee that the same IC will suddenly come to your help? (maybe u guys need to think of moving ur struggle to Canada or Africa, with the kind of firepower the LTTE "had" you could have easily held 1/2 of africa, against the Somalians and Ethiopians)

So so.....will Ealam be achieved this week end? What are ur thoughts? Will the SLA capture the remaining 15Sq.Km, get the people in to IDP camps, clear the area, dig up all the hidden weapons, and White-Van the 1000 odd LTTE's mingling with the civilians, allow the rest to return to their homes and develop the north and east so all the people in those areas can live better lives and develop their own lives, OR will the "freedom struggle" go on indefinitely for the next 30+ years(so u can extend your refugee visas in canada/UK), killing the remaining tamil population in SL (LTTE= Leading Tamils To Extinction)???

Unknown said...

All Sinhala Bastards,

Go and Fuck in DW. Why bastards are here?

Thusitha said...

Laptop Kumara Ramawickrama said...
All Sinhala Bastards,

Go and Fuck in DW. Why bastards are here?

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That is because, you guys started writing lot of crap and DW restricted the access. Talk to peter and Upul and find out. They are the reasons why we are here. Otherwise we would have been happy blogging in defence wire.

Unknown said...

'That is because, you guys started writing lot of crap and DW restricted the access.'

If DW restricted access, go and fuck in Defence Net. Nothing wrong with you. Sinhala Bastards' mentality is same everywhere. That is enter into tamil places whether it is in the internet or at home in the tamil land.

Roy Muller said...

Saul, SuthaS. that fake is not Badri .. click on his profile to verify his authenicity

TamilPower.com said...

Thushitha... You told me that you admit your own casualities and we don't accept. If you listen the Voice of Tigers everyday they give details of their causalities. Thushitha! Can you give me a total figure of your casualties since Jan 2009. I don't think so. It's an Electronical war of your Sinhala Government and you people believe it.

Unknown said...

'You guys are the ones who entered defence wire and started crapping in it. If you (Tamil people like peter and upul) listen to your own advice we would not be having this conversation.'

What conversation would be in the future left with barbarians. Only conversation in the future would be is to settle down the Vanni civilian casuality figures in the sinhala villages and in the south.

Thusitha said...

THEEPAN OF THE LTTE: HEROIC SAGA OF A NORTHERN WARRIOR

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=45956

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You guys give shit to D.B.S Jeyaraj, but he has written a good column on Theepan.

wijayapala said...

My Dear Mr SuthaS,

"Mr Wijayapal you know that DBS Jeyaraj is an asshole*. What does he know about LTTE?"

Out of the 187 comments left in response to Jeyaraj's article, I couldn't find a single Tamil who refuted his story. On the other hand there were LTTE supporters who praised Theepan & Friends for fighting to the end. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

"Moreon."

What should we call Eelamoid dimwits who can't spell "moron"?

"DBS Jeyaraj modified the same story of Sri Lankan Government."

Jeyaraj's story came out on the 6th, while the defence.lk story was released on the 8th. Again, please correct me if I am mistaken.

wijayapala said...
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Roy Muller said...

Thusitha

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7985155.stm
By Swaminathan Natarajan
BBC Tamil service

If you think there is press freedom in SL, then you are just a deluded fool. I am sure Swaminthan Natarajan dont want a white van ride like Lasantha

wijayapala said...

One more comment, SuthaS,

"There would be a huge casualty. But the thing is we admit it."

You seem to be having a hard time admitting the deaths of Theepan & Co.

Are you waiting for Peter's sister-in-law's nephew to confirm that they are happy and well in the Vanni??

wijayapala said...

Roy Muller,

"I am sure Swaminthan Natarajan dont want a white van ride like Lasantha"

For a second I thought you were going to accuse Mr Natarajan of being a traitor and paid agent of Gotabhaya.

Saul said...

THEEPAN OF THE LTTE: HEROIC SAGA OF A NORTHERN WARRIOR

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=45956


Well, I am pro SLA/ anti LTTE, but by God this was a brave soldier.

Roy Muller said...

wijayapala, hmm did I say that ??? You are stretching your imgaination a little too far, rite now just stick to Lasantha !!

read this to refresh your greying cells

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1870440,00.html

m.q.k said...

SRI LANKA PRESIDENT WENT TO LIBYA TO BEG FOR MONEY

Presidential Secretariat says that the president’s visit to Libya will benefit Sri Lanka in several ways. As an immediate response Libya has agreed to grant a sum of 500 million US dollars.

Roy Muller said...

Thusitha , why are you make such a hullabaloo about the article ? Its an open secret and the whole world knows the situation of the people captured and herded into the concentration camps. Swaminathan Natarajan didnt reveal anything "new" apart from what is already known to all.

Eelam Tamil said...

"With a major humanitarian crisis and war crimes clearly taking place, the government must heed the international community's calls for a ceasefire and for better access for humanitarian workers and journalists," Reporters Without Borders said. "It is a disgrace that this war is being waged without independent journalists present. And by preventing thousands of innocent civilians from moving freely, the Tamil Tiger rebels bear a large share of the responsibility for these crimes."

The press freedom organisation added: "By limiting media coverage to guided tours with the purpose of confirming military victories, the armed forces are preventing the press from doing its job and are disregarding the public's right to be informed in an independent manner."

Reporters Without Borders also condemns the propaganda being orchestrated by both the government and the rebel Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eeelam (LTTE) about the fate of the civilians who have been trapped by the military offensive against the rebels.

The organisation calls on the Sri Lankan and international media to join in its condemnation of the obstacles put in the way of the news media in war zones by using its campaign ad: "Whenever blood flows, reporters' ink should flow too":

http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=111&id_mot=888

Full report:

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/MUMA-7QZ3KQ?OpenDocument

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Real Badri here. The defence.lk writers are so stupid, when they make up their stories they forget the LTTE is deep within the no fire zone. So they claim to have killed LTTE in the no fire zone, and then they "recovered the LTTE bodies". Exactly how does the army recover LTTE bodies inside the no fire zone? The writers at defence.lk are just too stupid to think through their stories before writing:

["Troops following the clashes, found nine bodies of slain LTTE cadres, 22 T-56 rifles, one rocket propeller grenade launcher, one pistol, three radio communication sets, and a stock of 25000 ammunition used for T-56 rifles."]

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Bhairav, your name is in the picasa link, please upload them with another account, unless you don't mind it.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Just see how the Sri Lankan government uses lies to deceive. Today Tamilnet published an article that 69% of children in the no fire zone are malnourished. In order to stop the press from publishing it, the Sri Lankan government releases the SAME news, but makes the number 25%. Naturally the press is going to publish the government's number. So by doing this the government smokescreens the real facts and presents a more acceptable number:

"At least one in four children displaced by Sri Lanka's ongoing fighting between troops and Tamil Tigers was malnourished, the health ministry said Saturday."

Unknown said...

sla brings cameras and ltte bring guns

http://www.tamileelamonline.com

m.q.k said...

peter, laptop ...is this true??

UK orders the LTTE aid ship to return to Britain
Saturday, April 11, 2009, 6:29 GMT, ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.
Apr 11, Colombo: The British government had ordered the Sri Lanka's battlefield-bound ship that was carrying cargo destined to the Tamil Tiger terrorist group, LTTE to turn back and return to Britain.

The order has been issued to the captain of the ship, named 'Vanangaman' following a request made by the Sri Lankan Government

Anonymous said...

I just read that at some points the GOSL-SLA has almost reached the "killing zone". I pray that the fighters will escape out of this area and we cannot do much for the fate of civilians - possibly more than 1/2 will disappear :-(


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Anonymous said...

[Lalith Kuruwita said...

"m.q.k said...

SRI LANKA PRESIDENT WENT TO LIBYA TO BEG FOR MONEY"

MR begs and gets ...]



GREAT ACHIEVEMENT BY modayas ... in 1940s when British handed over the ceylon (anaged predoinantly by Tamils), it was no#1 in asia. now it s the lowest begger well known for domestic servants and violence!

Modayas are very proud of this!


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Anonymous said...

[Lalith Kuruwita said...

"mahindan10 said...

I just read that at some points the GOSL-SLA has almost reached the "killing zone". I pray that the fighters will escape out of this area and we cannot do much for the fate of civilians - possibly more than 1/2 will disappear :-("

It is very sad and SLA's effort will be in vain if LTTP kill half of Tamil Civilians. ...]



TAMILS KNOW ALL TOO WELL who killed tamils from 1956, 1958, 1983, ...., no need to tell this to tamils by barbarians!


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m.q.k said...
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Anonymous said...

[Lalith Kuruwita said...

I mean LTTP suppoerters ar begging but getting nothing. ...]


IT ALSO HAPPENED TO THE JEWS DURING THE early stages of genocide by hitler. many countries allowed them to be killed ...eventually, genocide was recognized and hitler suffered his fate ....


so, you consider transforming ceylon into a begger nation by singhala modayas as a great achievement :-)?



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Anonymous said...

[Lalith Kuruwita said...

See what London LTTP suppoerters have done

A Nehru statue placed outside the India House in London has been beheaded and protesting Sri Lankan Tamils are being blamed for the desecration. Police investigations are on but the vandals turned away CCTV cameras so there's no record of the actual crime. Earlier on Friday, Sri Lankan protesters had staged a demonstration outside the Indian High Commission in London against the war against their country Sri Lanka. ...]



IN SHIT LANKA, GOSL's barbarians are killing tamils and blaming LTTE.

In Melbourne the barbarians are attacking Tamils cars and blaming the Tamils.

The same happening in London!


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Anonymous said...

[m.q.k said...


Lashit Kuruwita said..

{MR begs and gets}


U ARE PROUD TO BE BEGGARS... HAHA... LOW LIFE. :)))

TRY TO MAKE UR OWN MONEY..DONT BEG..

LAZY PIG..HAVE SOME DIGNITY...

DONT JUST FUCK AND SLEEP ONLY

U DEPEND ON OTHER COUNTRIES MERCY FOR SURVIVAL... ..]




NOT SO LAZY ... happy to send the females of their family to mid-east and other countries as domestic servants where they screwed for free. Modayas do not mind as long as they get money.

after all, these barbarians screw dead bodies, screw minors in Haiti as PEAC keepers, etc.


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Anonymous said...

[ Modaya can only fight war ]


YES, WHATEVER THE circumstances, barbarian modayas want to see blood. bt modayas have different names for it:

1956,58, 83 riots, JVP-72, JVP-89, war ...

ONLY OBJECTIVE IS SEEING BLOOD AND ENJOYING IT ...


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Anonymous said...

[Lalith Kuruwita said...

Moda Army will rescue all Tamil civillians and evaporate all LTTPiers very soon if not already started. ..]




YES IT IS HAPPENING SINCE 1956 AND WE KNOW THAT THE barbarians are very good at it ...


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Anonymous said...

[Lalith Kuruwita said...

I chased all Monkeys away. ..]



YES hitler chased away all JEWS too and was very proud of the achievement.


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Lalith Kuruwita said...

See the link

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=46001

Indian said...

//Peter said

It is a 'grudge' that hasn't dissipated in 18 years. It probably never will. That's what I said was the sad reality of dynastic politics.

World has changed in 18 years, but Indian foreign policy hasn't. World is such now that the LTTE can survive as a "terrorist" entity of a hundred or so cadres without the overwhelming help of TN.

LTTE needs India and TN to survive as a conventional force and gain independence for Tamileelam in the 'traditional' manner. If TN can not help LTTE survive as a conventional entity by influencing India to pull out of the war, then TN's value for LTTE would be zero//

Perfectly said Peter.Couldnt agree with you more.

But its not just the "grudge" that guides India's actions,but the changed world - the geo politics of the Region.It is this changed world that the Tiger's need to worry off.In 80's / 90's Pakistan & China didnt get their hands dirtied in the affairs of Lanka.More Lanka too wasnt looking beyond India in this struggle.I am not sure when this changed,if you know - please do let me know,but the GoSL getting closer to Pakistan and China does have the Indian government worried,naturally so.

With problems in the East and West,India doesnt want to have a hostile south as well.Also I would say India and Srilanka are natural allies.

Let me explain:India will help GoSL to keep China and Pak out of the picture.Lets leave out Pak as of now.With reports that Taliban are within striking distance of Islamabad,Pak will not have any sustained interest in Srilanka in a long term basis.Its China that India needs to worry about.The Chinese help\supplies will definitely come at a cost to GoSL.
What I am eagerly waiting for is,how the GoSL handles its relation with China post these war.I am sure the Chinese would definitely like to have a strategical presence to counter India in the region.Is the GoSL ready for that is a big question.Under these context you will have to see India's plight.It will help GoSL to keep China out but will not insist on a strategical presence.Its like " I help you and you dont let my rival in and I am happy with that".
Compare that to China's stand "I help you and I need a strategical presence to counter my rival".

Its not difficult to see which option the GoSL will choose.Thats explicitly why I also insist that a change in guard in the centre,even if it happens,will not aid Tiger's.So TN will not be able to be a sanctuary to the Tiger's as it did in the 80's - It had the support of the then State and Central government and more it had the support of the people.But now they have lost the support of the Governments and of the commoner as well - The commoner worries about the civilians but not about the Tigers.

Indian said...

Also coming back to electoral politics in TN,the Congress will not loose when it comes to numbers.
If the DMK+Congress alliance wins around 20-22 seats,which is likely to happen,the Congree will not worry much.
But,if JJ wins around 25-30 seats,I predict a immediate switch in alliances.Congress \ ADMK will cite the pro LTTE stance taken by their partners and join hands.JJ gets double tango in this.She will get the State government and also have a say in the Central politics.PMK+JJ+Congress can form a state government and also get the numbers up in Centre.Dont rule this out.Only rider for this to happen is that the Congress has to do well in rest of the states and emerge as the Single largest party.
It did in 2004 and formed the government.It failed to do that in 1999 and lost to BJP.

Indian said...

//Saul said,
BTW, triggers for coming under suspicion that you're not a disinterested party- using the words 'mate' and 'Bhadri'.
As in how are you doing Bhadri, mate//

Saul,I believe you are posting this message for me."Mate" is a common word used in any of the online forums most frequently.I hang out a lot on web and it could be that influence.

I am not sure on "Bhadri" though.Someone here suspected that I was a NorthIndian as I used "h".Honestly speaking I thought it was the other way round.NorthIndians have Badrinath\Kedarnath.You get my point?South Indian's used to have that "h' for all.Like say,when I was working in Maharashtra for 5 years,my colleagues used to tease me for writing\saying "Maruthi" car.Its actualy Maruti.So I still dont understand this "Bhadri" "Badri" business

Internet is a virtual world and hence its not possible to convince people who suspect me.But for the interested,I was born\brought up and spent a good 30 years of my life in place which is hardly 45 minutes by sea to Lanka

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Tamil EElam falling down, falling down , falling down

Tamil EElam falling down, falling down , falling down

Lalith Kuruwita said...

Badri is deleting my comments.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

If the LTTE still hasn't vacated PTK (which from what I understand most of the fighters have already left), they will be staying in the far south of the no fire zone. Puthumatalan side will be given up first, and slowly the Sri Lankan army will move South till they hit Vellamullivaikal. If the LTTE is still there, that's where they are going to fight. But that is assuming they are still there, which I strongly doubt.

By the way, DBS's latest story on Theepan is again stupid with no logical basis. He tries to convince the Tamils of his story by glorifying Theepan, saying he refused to escape so that he could die with his men. If there was a chance to break a hole through and escape for one person (Theepan), they could as well have taken the entire group of 200 LTTE fighters out as well. Don't believe DBS just because he glorifies Theepan. His method is to pile up a bunch of horse crap, and then give you a table spoon of glorification so that you swallow it all together.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Badri is deleting my comments."]

Well you aren't communicating, you are just spamming dozens of meaningless comments.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

And everyone already reads the "Daily wahtever", the island, etc. So just post the links, not pages of articles.

Peter said...

Badri,

Lalith is fully focused on diverting attention by posting nonsense or 'copy & paste' jobs of censored reports. Block him if you can, otherwise just delete his posts in the hope that he learns to discuss instead of disrupt.

Peter said...

“Indian”,

I think you are digging a bigger hole in the 'I'm Tamil' case.

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South Indian's used to have that "h' for all.Like say,when I was working in Maharashtra for 5 years,my colleagues used to tease me for writing\saying "Maruthi" car.Its actualy Maruti.So I still dont understand this "Bhadri" "Badri" business
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The 'h' sound is not the same in 'BH' and 'TH' (த்); தனபாலசிங்கம் - Thanabalasingam; granted 'h' is used generously, but 'bh' is very rare amongst most native Tamils.

Peter said...

"Indian",

As for your argument in influence of China v. India in Lanka, your thinking is linear and akin to RAW's thinking in '70s. When RAW trained Tamil militants, it saw them as means to gain total influence over Sinhalese but never had an 'exist strategy' for the 'struggle'.

I am sure RAW is now dynamic enough to consider repercussions for India in its war to 'annihilate' the LTTE's conventional capabilities. Much of what I wrote yesterday centred around the theme of Indian interests becoming foremost targets of a purely “terrorist” LTTE that may emerge from the ashes of the India/Lanka – LTTE war.

thiru said...

the protests are continuing here in ottawa, it seems as though none of the politicians care about the tamil blood being spilled....the only positive thing i see from these prostests is that we as tamil brothers and sisters are standing together hand in hand worldwide....however, i do believe that a political solution is possible only after the singhalese are brought down from their cureent position in one way or another, there is no point entering a peace negotiation while the ltte is down because there won't be any reasonable committments from the GOSL in this scenario....the ltte has to show how bad a war can be to the singhalese, right now all the singhalese are worried about is their economy and that alone is not enough to stop the war, they have to be know how ugly a war can be and then only will they pressure their government to stop the war.

Roy Muller said...

"I would say India and Srilanka are natural allies.'

Oh really, Sri lanka will never trust India, just like the rest of India's neigbours.

Pan Indian Nationalist out of delusion might want to believe otherwise.

Roy Muller said...

Peter, if your prediction comes true, then we know with whom LTTE shud be working closely :))

Peter said...

Yep.

What RAW failed to realize:

Sinhalese under Chinese influence, could be buffered by Tamileelam in the north-east. India would lose a little.

Sinhalese with Indian influence, as is now, would create a Tamil "terrorist" organization viewing India as a legitimate and necessary target. Given the presence of TN and large Tamil communities in Bangalore, Mumbai, etc., this could be harder to tackle. India would lose more.

In RAW's linear thinking, Indian support for Sinhalese does not have any side-effects. It was the same thinking that gave arrogance to Rajeev in, first, thinking that IPKF-LTTE war would never materialize, and then believing that he would not have to pay a price for the actions of his troops.

At the moment India to Eelam Tamils is like US to Palestinians.

wijayapala said...

Dear Thiru,

"the ltte has to show how bad a war can be to the singhalese, right now all the singhalese are worried about is their economy and that alone is not enough to stop the war, they have to be know how ugly a war can be and then only will they pressure their government to stop the war."

To my understanding, it was this reasoning which compelled the LTTE to start Eelam War IV in July/Aug 2006- to give the Sinhalese a good lesson on messing with the iyakkam. The LTTE had over 4 years to prepare for Eelam War IV, and Eelamoids like Peter were bleating that the LTTE was stronger than it had ever been, even after Karuna's defection. There seemed to be no better opportunity to teach Sinhalese a lesson.

Now it seems that the Eelamoids who were screaming for war in 2006 are now whining for a ceasefire in 2009! Gota and Fonseka deserve immense credit for producing this mental shift in the LTTE supporters' minds!

The sad truth is that Thalaivar has let you down. With the recent debacle at Anandapuram the LTTE is finished as a conventional force. The Tamils in Sri Lanka have no interest in continuing to fight, as demonstrated by the Jaffna and Batticaloa Tamils' acceptance of the situation however unpleasant it is.

The opinion of the LTTE supporters living abroad does not matter because they are not in SL and therefore cannot really influence anything. They cannot push India or any other country to stop the war because the world is fed up with the LTTE as an essentially terrorist organization.

Indian said...

Peter,
I think I will stay clear on wether I am a Tamil or not.Just becoz some netizens say I am Ariyan Brahmin\NorthIndian doesnt make me one.

Anycase,coming back to India Vs China,I would like to differ from what you say.In 70's China had no strategic interest in Srilanka.They were happy with their equations in Pakistan and Srilankan issue too hadnt taken centrestage.

However the situation is completely different now.India's handsoff policy post May21,left a vaccum which has been filled by China.India knows it and wants to make a course correction.It cant afford to keep aloof when PR of China gets a strategic presence right at its backdoor and that explains India's current behaviour.It wont change even if a change of guard occurs at Centre.

m.q.k said...

ANYONE.....is this true??

UK orders the LTTE aid ship to return to Britain
Saturday, April 11, 2009, 6:29 GMT, ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.
Apr 11, Colombo: The British government had ordered the Sri Lanka's battlefield-bound ship that was carrying cargo destined to the Tamil Tiger terrorist group, LTTE to turn back and return to Britain.

The order has been issued to the captain of the ship, named 'Vanangaman' following a request made by the Sri Lankan Government

Indian said...

//Sinhalese under Chinese influence, could be buffered by Tamileelam in the north-east. India would lose a little//
Thats a double edged sword.
On one hand India would have had to counter a bullish China right at its backyard.

Secondly they would have trouble in TN as well,if not by much but still a trouble.

Peter said...

"Indian",

No argument about reasons for India's support for Sinhalese.

But geo-politics is dynamic. If India thinks it can reduce LTTE's conventional capabilities without a scratch to itself, it'll most likely end up getting a rude awakening. US once thought it could reduce Palestinians without earning the wrath of the Muslim community, simply because Israel would always be seen as the 'enemy'.

Peter said...

m.q.k,

I doubt it. Sinhalese complained to Britain even before a month ago, I think the news made it to British press but no one took any action about it.

Roy Muller said...

wijayapala , whats teh strength of the soldiers stationed in Jaffna ? 1,000 ++ or 30,000 ++

Peter said...

@ Roy Muller,

I think its 0. No Sinhalese troops in Jaffna.

And, there are no Jaffna or Batticaloa natives in the LTTE, fighting and dieing while operating as a centralized semi-conventional force.

Indian said...

//I refused to understand//
Rajiv was hit on head as Sinhalese believed,he gave them a pro-Tamil accord.IPKF-Tiger war occured as Tiger's believed India had done them in.

Both sides detested India on that accord.

Was it the execution or was it ill-conceived in the first place,I am still not able to understand.

//Rajiv life worth the thousands of Tamils killed//
Well,me thinks its not just about a life.Rajiv was a leader who had a vision for India.Who thought ahead of his time,when compared to the other leader's we had,India's development during his tenure was good.He revolutionized the IT\Telecom sector - do you know that he was one who recongnized the reach of PC's and passed a GO allowing PC's to be manufactured by pvt sectors?The then opposition,including the BJP and Commies,opposed it tooth and nail.
I still have memories of going with my dad to the local post office to make long distance call at a specific time - a time which was conveyed well in advance by a postcard.
He changed all that.

With him on May21,also evaporated the dreams he had for India.Remember,whatever Rajiv did,he did so as the elected representative of crore's of India.Killing him for that means,you launch an all out assault against India and you will HAVE to face the consequences of that

Indian said...

//But geo-politics is dynamic//
Well said and I agree 100%.India's actions right now,are as the situation demands now.

Who knows in future,if India is still not able to counter Chinese presence in the region effectively,in future,we both might be on another blog similar to this one,arguing together.

About Palestinian issue,I dont have any interest and never followed it.

Peter said...

Not to forget that Rajeev was much loved leader who was elected, and re-elected on merit. He was killed while PM of India; hence, regarded as an all-out attack on that country.

"Indian",

You speak of consequences for LTTE, but brush aside the consequences for India of making a purely "terrorist" organization with India as its number one enemy.

Raja said...

India shouldn't be fighting to prevent Chinese influence in Sri Lanka because it's too late. The hambantota harbour is already under way fully funded by China. It doesn't take a genius to fugure out that the Chinese navy might one day dock there. So what does India get out of suporting the GOSL? Nothing. Their policy is based on weakness. They should know that the GOSL can't be trusted. Any promises they make to not allow more Chinese influence is not worth the paper it's written on. On the otherhand, if India were to put it's weight behind the Eelam cause, the Tamil people would happily give them permanent bases in the prized Trincolmalee port and the palali air base. This is the best option if Indian Geo-political interest is it's only motivation. Hopefully, a more muscular BJP led goverment will be willing to execute this strategy.

Roy Muller said...

Peter, India doesnt need LTTE, it already has Kashmir, Khalistan, NE states militancy to handle.

From my sources, there are about 50,000 Indian soldiers occupying Kashmir, with an ave. of 10 soldiers killed per week ...

Roy Muller said...

Peter have the sinhalese forgiven India for arming and training LTTE, thus creating a mess in SL ? Perhaps, ignoramous Indians need to little lesson on history

Peter said...

@Roy Muller

One of the saddest aspects of dynastic politics is that egos are laid to rest at the expense of the country.

Remember how Bush Jnr took US to war in Iraq.

Sonia-Congress has little thought for India. It wants LTTE to face "consequences" for Rajeev assassination of 18 years ago. It does not have any thought or regard for what could happen if LTTE is reduced to a pure "terrorist" group with India as main target.

AK said...

Hi Badri, any truth in the rumors that SLA is trying to enter the NFZ?

Peter said...

@ Roy Muller,

"have the sinhalese forgiven India"

I hope Indians are different to "Indian"/Sonia-Congress worshipers.

Indian said...

Peter,
He was killed during election campaigning.Tiger's observed he would return back to power and meddle again in Lanka and eliminated him,in true Tiger functioning - eliminate the threat as soon as you sense it.

About the consequences,I still dont understand how they could target India.The free reign they enjoyed in India is no longer available to them - remember June 19.They could do anything anywhere as they felt,such was the situation.
The situation in TN is not conducive as of now.Infact the GoSL also has a say in how the future will pan out.This war is nearing its logistical end very soon and how the GoSL handles the NorthEast will tell us what the future has in store for us.
I can cite you Punjab in India as an example.The Khalistan movement was crushed ruthlessly and people won over.

I need your thoughts on this.I think the Tiger's are in the current situation as they were a tad over ambitious.For example at a time when the world had awakened to the dangers of extremism\terrorism,dont you think it was a mistake to flaunt the newly aquired air power etc.It did set alarm bells ringing,not only in the region,but across the globe.What do you think?

Peter said...

"Indian",

How do you think Mumbai happened? Did they have as much support as LTTE had in TN in '80s?

I am talking about the prospects of a purely terrorist organization with a global, mature structure targeting India.

Now, I have no doubt that India would be able to tackle this threat. However, it will have to be achieved at a cost. Uncertainty is the killer of emerging states.

wijayapala said...

What Peter failed to realize:

The Eelam War, particularly from 1990 onward, brought Sri Lanka much closer to Pakistan and China than if the war had never started. The longer the LTTE remained in the picture, the closer the SL govt would move towards countries which could provide for its military needs. Hence India's interests in seeing the LTTE annihilated at the earliest opportunity.

After the departure of the IPKF and the murder of Rajiv Gandhi by the LTTE, India had very limited opportunities to involve itself with SL due to internal considerations. India obviously could not use the LTTE as a lever against the SL govt given that the LTTE is a terrorist organization, and at the same time could not support the govt because of the TN factor.

With the LTTE out of the picture, India's opportunities in SL will be wide open again, particularly in the area of post-LTTE reconstruction where India can get in good graces with all communities. It remains to be seen whether India will utilize these opportunities or yield them to other countries like China and Japan.

"Sinhalese with Indian influence, as is now, would create a Tamil "terrorist" organization viewing India as a legitimate and necessary target. Given the presence of TN and large Tamil communities in Bangalore, Mumbai, etc., this could be harder to tackle."

Peter has clearly failed to grasp that LTTE terrorist attacks against India will not win any sympathy from the Tamils in India, but will drive the Indian Tamils further against the LTTE and SL Tamils in general. That was the outcome of the Rajiv Gandhi assassination. The Indians would crack down hard against such terrorism because it would give them a chance to show that they're not anti-Muslim. Peter should learn a little more from history.

I hope more Indians visit this blog to see what the Eelamoids have in mind for India when the LTTE is crushed.

Roy Muller said...

Raja .. have you heard off China's "string of pearls" :)) Development of Hambantota port is part of that strategy

thiru said...

to the singhalese who think that our mind has shifted to a ceasefire because we are weak, we are not begging for a ceasefire because we think the ltte is weak, we are begging for a ceasefire because of the humanitarian catastrophe that is taking place to the civilians in vanni due to your racist governments policies.....you talk about ltte not being able to fight conventionally, it is due to ur cowardness that you knew that u couldn't face even a contingent of 500-700 ltte cadres head on that u resorted to using chemical gas, from what i hear fonsi boy was shitting in his pants about an impending ltte attack and knew everything would topple as ur modaya troops would start doing what they do best-run!....this is why he begged india and they supplied you morons the chemical weapon.....now what happened after is a war crime and the world's acceptance of war crimes on ur side is only going to lead to a slaughter of civilians on ur side, if u modayas are to stupid to understand this eventuality then it you who are going realize the hard way.

wijayapala said...

"I am talking about the prospects of a purely terrorist organization with a global, mature structure targeting India."

The sad history of the LTTE is that it had a global, **immature** structure, leading the terrorists towards truly idiotic moves such as targeting R. Gandhi and attacking SLMM monitors at sea.

Continuing in the Eelamoid tradition of immaturity, Peter is now threatening the Indians with a terrorist campaign!!

LOL!

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["The order has been issued to the captain of the ship, named 'Vanangaman' following a request made by the Sri Lankan Government."]

Neither England nor Sri Lanka has jurisdiction over the ship since the ship is only transporting up to an intermediary port. At a half way point the cargo will be loaded to a third party ship which will complete the journey. Thus this ship is neither entering Sri Lanka waters, nor doing anything England can complain against.

Indian said...

Not just 26/11,but we have been facing insurgency since Independence for the last 60 years.Its inevitable.

When a country with 24996 sq area and having 2 sets of people faces so much problem,imagine a country with 1.3 million square miles and more than 1billion people.

India will face it,no other go.

m.q.k said...

Sri lanka 'a disgrace': rights group


COLOMBO (AFP) — An international rights group Saturday urged Sri Lanka to allow journalists access to the war zone in the northeast where a "humanitarian crisis is unfolding" without a media presence.

"It is a disgrace that this war is being waged without independent journalists present," Paris-based Reporters Without Borders (RSF) said.

"With a major humanitarian crisis and war crimes clearly taking place, the government must heed the international community?s calls for a ceasefire and for better access for humanitarian workers and journalists."

The United Nations estimates around 100,000 people trapped along Sri Lanka's northeastern shoreline are at risk from intense fighting between troops and Tamil Tiger rebels.

Security forces have now hemmed the Tigers into a narrow strip of coastal jungle where they have retreated together with the civilians.

The authorities have severely restricted access into the war zone for journalists and humanitarian agencies.

"By limiting media coverage to guided tours with the purpose of confirming military victories, the armed forces are preventing the press from doing its job," RSF said in a statement.

"They are disregarding the public?s right to be informed in an independent manner," it said.

Rights groups regard Sri Lanka as one of the most dangerous places in the world for journalists.

In January, the government said nine journalists had been killed and another 27 assaulted over the past three years, while independent activists say more than a dozen journalists have been killed.

A newspaper editor critical of the government's military campaign was shot dead by unidentified gunmen in January. Several others have been arrested using draconian anti-terrorism laws.

RSF also accused the Tigers, who have been fighting for a homeland since 1972, of preventing civilians from leaving the shrinking areas they control and seeking refuge in government-controlled areas.

"The Tamil Tiger rebels bear a large share of the responsibility for these crimes," RSF said.

Peter said...

wijayapala,

Perhaps the discussion is moving too quickly for you. I had already conceded that there is no argument for India's reasons for support to the Sinhalese.

Again, my comment was based on the emergence of a "purely terrorist" organization. That is perhaps a group of 100 or 200 people based around the world.

The expense of filtering a single Tamil suicide bomber in India is likely to be a difficult task. Thus, India's war on LTTE is unlikely to be without "consequences".

As for "attacking SLMM monitors at sea"; a net-event I missed?

"Peter is now threatening," opinions are threatening?

Indian said...

forgot to add,when one incident threw the Tiger's out of TN for almost a decade,imagine what would happen if they indulge in any such misadventure in the future.
To explain,I know you hate Sonia to the core,the BJP should worry more about Sonia's security prior to elections than the Congress,get the drift?

Roy Muller said...

wijayapala, the political landscape of Tamilnadu is changing. The need is to work on the existing Tamils anti-India sentiments, together with the Sikhs , Kashmiris. Tamils living in India should be educated to realise that their enemy isnt Pakistan , Talibans, or China but India

Peter said...

"India",

Yes. India will probably have to face it. How international investors react to uncertainty in Bangalore, etc., will be interesting.

wijayapala said...

Roy Muller,

"wijayapala , whats teh strength of the soldiers stationed in Jaffna ? 1,000 ++ or 30,000 ++"

Seems like you're arguing that the massive presence of the SLA is deterring the Tamils in Jaffna from militant activities. Is that what you were arguing?

In any case, the redeployment of the 53 and 55 Divs to smacking the LTTE in the Vanni demonstrates that the govt isn't very concerned about the LTTE having much if any influence over Jaffna in the near future.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Just another point, in all of the videos of the no fire zone, you can clearly see civilians moving about on the very edges or the NFZ without any LTTE presence, sometimes just a few hundred meters from Sri Lankan army positions. There is no question of the LTTE forcibly restricting them, as the LTTE is not even present on the edges of the NFZ. If these civilians wanted to, they could easily leave the no fire zone and walk 200 meters to the Sri Lankan army positions. This is proof the LTTE is not forcing anyone to stay in the NFZ.

Bhairav said...

[Bhairav, your name is in the picasa link, please upload them with another account, unless you don't mind it.]

Badri, thanks for pointing out but that's not even my real name.

Here it is the link for some of the pictures from Ottawa protest(April 10th, 09)

I also added few snaps of scenery from the back site of parliament view.


Link for pictures of Ottawa Protest on April 10th.

khanthas said...

Wijayapala, you are in a heck of a mood. Enjoy as much. You amply merit it. All credit to you. I congratulate you because you earned it hard way, you have made a hell lot of sacrifices.

Firstly, you have given up democracy and replaced it with a gang who steals the people and who kills anyone opposing it Good sacrifice indeed !

Further, you have let your mothers and sisters work in countries where they get terribly abused (as the Tamil women by SLA in Vavunia and Jaffna camps). These Singhalese ladies come for help to your embassies but to no avail, because you don’t want to loose their blood money. Another great sacrifice in fact!

Still more, your kids are getting abused in southern beaches, but you don’t utter a word of protest because you need Whites’ money. Thus scarifying your own kids, nobody else in the world will ever do. Again a wonderful a sacrifice..

I can add all the other sacrifices you made, but I’ll stop here because in your euphoria you may not want to hear all.

Above all, the supreme sacrifice is that you have made your country a sh$$ hole for a longtime to come ( pardon me Wijaya, I don’t normally use these words, but I haven’t other replacements)

Congrats again Wijayapala…

Roy Muller said...

@Indian

You need to update yourself on the ground reality. eg like these lawyers in Madurai. Man I love it, its getting hot in Tamilnadu .

http://www.timeschennai.com/index.php?mod=article&cat=TamilNadu&article=14483

AK said...

Sri Lankan troops enter no fire zone - The Hindu

Can Badri/Peter or anybody comment if the above is true?

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

I feel the best way to raise support for LTTE in Tamil Nadu is LTTE should contest the elections, perhaps even having Prabhakaran contesting. First they would need the ban to be lifted of course, otherwise their party workers will be arrested. But once the ban is lifted, there is nothing stopping the LTTE from officially runningin Tamil Nadu elections, not to win, but just to show the level of support amongst the Tamil population. Imagine if people had to choose between DMK, ADMK or Prabhakaran? I am sure he would easily get a large chunk of votes, at least more than Vijayakant. If you can control 10 to 20% of the votebank, you can control the winning party.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Not true.

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