Tuesday, May 19, 2009

LTTE leadership likely executed after being tricked into surrender

It appears Prabhakaran and senior leaders were betrayed, possibly by an unknown senior leader, and tricked into surrendering to the Sri Lankan army, after which they were all executed with a shot to the head. It is impossible that both Charles Anthony and Prabhakaran could have been shot directly between the eyes in combat. Several Sri Lankan soldiers have been bragging about events surrounding the execution of the LTTE leadership, including members from the non-combatant civil services wing and even family members of LTTE leaders. We will not go into details of what they say, but it seems to confirm that LTTE leaders were all tricked into surrendering and then cruelly executed.

Prabhakaran was never the person communicating with the Sri Lankan army and the IC. So he had no way of knowing what the real position was, except from what he was told. It would have been very easy for a traitor to convince him that the Sri Lankan army had agreed under IC pressure to a laying down of arms and then negotiations.

Soosai's name seems to have been kept out of most defence.lk reports, making him look like a suspect. But if it was him, they would not have mentioned his wife and children being arrested. It would be better just to escort them away and keep everything a secret. Whatever the case, I am sure there is one or more traitors who are still living, but listed as killed by the Sri Lankan army to give them a new identity. There have been moles inside the LTTE for several years, and the many assassinations are proof of this.

Also note this shocking evidence. The two photographs of Charles Anthony released by the Sri Lankan government (one showing him dead, and one showing him alive) are wearing the exact same clothes. In the living photo he is wearing the same shirt that he was killed in. It appears they took this photo after he was arrested, just before executing him. Please see the photos below:





Please note that there has never been a recent photo available with the Sri Lankan government showing Charles Anthony until the day they recovered his dead body. What is the chance of this? In all of the other reports they released over the last several weeks they have been showing very old photos of him in LTTE uniform, which were clearly taken several years ago. But the day they find his dead body (with a bullet wound directly in the head), they also release a new photo of him which perfectly matches his present looks, and is wearing the exact same clothes as when he was killed. The hair and mustache is even cut to the exact same size and shape. It is clear this photo was taken just hours before he was cruelly executed by the Sri Lankan army with a shot to his head.

This is further proven by the fact that in videos of the body, there are pools of fresh wet blood pouring out of the wounds on his body. This is only possible if the video was taken immediately after he was killed. If he had been killed in combat, or if he had committed suicide, the blood would have already coagulated and would not create fresh puddles when they placed him on the tarpaulin.

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wijayapala said...

Chubby Thalaivar Jr. looks like he was going prematurely bald.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

My personal opinion, based on nothing but inference and logical conclusion, is that someone has been misleading Prabhakaran over the last few months of this war, purposely giving bad advice and suggestions. I have no proof for this, but the events seem to indicate it. I am sure Karuna Amman infiltrated to an old friend.

wijayapala said...

I wonder what's going through Mathi Amma and Thuvaraka thangai's minds.

Peter said...

Badri,

The dead one has stubbles and tash looks longer. Photo looks recent but not taken hours or even a day before his death. Same shirt might just be a coincidence.

Upul said...

the pic released by shit lanka army is a complete joke. its not even close to being credible enough to anything VP resembled. VP clearly doesn't look whats in the picture. Whats shown seems to be a wax job, something artificially created.

shit lanka has changed the story 3 or 4 times, trying to make it better every time. each of the previous story failed badly.

treachy did happen but to some of the political wing leadership

onecountry said...

What surrender? LTTE would only surrender to a 3rd party. Remember? If that is the case, Norway tricked them. GOSL is smart, they let so many differing rumors float for few days. Then showed the body. No one knows which version is correct.

KP and tamilnet made a colossal error. They should have said that Velu surrendered to the SLA and still alive in SLA custody. It would have created a major controversy because Velu is dead now. But, as always, they messed it up in the crucial moment.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

It could be coincidence, but it looks very recent to me. Stubble continues to grow even after death, and it would only need a day or so to get that much hair. The photo may have been taken a day before. It's all speculation, but to me it looks like a betrayal after a negotiated surrender.

Where did this photo of Charles Anthony suddenly come from? If they had this recent photo they would have shown it earlier.

Upul said...

Can someone verify this:

"I Agree with Eason .And have u all noticed the ID found from the dead body ? the name was Thruvenkadam......not Velluppillai Pirabaharan."

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

If Prabhakaran had committed suicide, the body would definitely have been burnt to ashes. Only possibilities are he was shot in combat or he was shot in custody. There is no way both him and his son were shot in combat with direct hits to the forhead. It was an execution.

Upul said...

laying down of arms for talks was always under the guise of independent monitors. that never happened here. ltte always insisted that it would never lay down arms to sla or shit lanka government.

onecountry said...

"it would only need a day or so to get that much hair. "

That cracks me up. So, velu's family has this super hair growing gene? Mustash hair grows 1cm per day? Crap!!

onecountry said...

upul:

Norway betrayed you man.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

The idea that its a wax head isn't even remotely possible. Can you imagine the humiliation Sri Lanka would face if Prabhakaran would just show his face in a video. They could have shown a burnt body and said it was him, but they could never show a wax face and say it was him if he was still alive.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["it would only need a day or so to get that much hair. "

That cracks me up. So, velu's family has this super hair growing gene? Mustash hair grows 1cm per day? Crap!!"]

That refers to the stubble. Some people have to shave every day, some every second day. The mustache difference could just be because it is messed up.

Moorthy G said...

Badri, please don't insult the dead.. you think they would have been stupid enough to surrender to the Sri Lankan army?
They were given umpteen opportunities to surrender, but continued to hold on till the Indian elections are over, taking more and more lives of soldiers. You may be stupid, but they would have known their fate if they surrendered after all that un-necessary carnage.

Indian said...

Bhadri,
CA's corpse has more beard than the one on the pic.Same shirt,I think its a mere coincidence.

Being DONE IN is what I too am thinking.Ofcourse needle of suspicion points to Soosai,but you are right about the correspondence part.

Someone in DW was posting about death due to drowning.Quite possible when see the popped out eyes.A postmortem will reveal if the lungs were filled with water.

I suspect what would have happened is :

VP recieves info of a possible escape route,that news goes to him through the betrayer.VP rushes there with his entire entourage without knowing its a box.

Fierce fighting could have killed many and some including CA caught alive but VP missing.But since SLA knew VP was coming their way they could have assumed he too probably dead,while launching a search.They were only speculative of his death yesterday,none of the official channels said he is dead.They always used the word ,presumably.

Injured VP could have drowned in Nandhikadal lagoon - this is possible considering what all we have heard and then after seeing the corpse with those popped out eyes

I dont say this happened,but possible

wijayapala said...

If it is true that Chubby Charles, Nadesan etc. were executed after surrendering, doesn't that mean they had totally betrayed the iyakkam by not swallowing cyanide instead????Peter, over to you.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Badri, please don't insult the dead.. you think they would have been stupid enough to surrender to the Sri Lankan army?"]

Nadesan and KP both were asking for a surrender, and it has been published in multiple newspapers with descriptions from the people on the phone with them. The two main sources, channel 4 news, and the reporter who lost her eye in LTTE territory are both very reliable and pro LTTE.

I am sorry if it sounds negative to you. There could have been good reasons for a surrender, such as claims there were 1,000 or more injured LTTE cadres in the area who would be killed.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

To me it seems someone convinced the leadership and Prabhakaran to stay in the war zone for months with false hopes. To me it was an inside job of betrayal.

If the plan was not to commit suicide and burn the body, then there is no explanation as to why the LTTE leadership should have remained in the war zone. The most logical explanation is someone kept reassuring them that things would be alright and country XYZ was about to get them a ceasefire.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Look back at the Ananthapuram debacle. How did all of the military leaders get clumped up in a very risky location that could easily be cut off and surrounded. How did the Sri Lankan army know to overrun the Charles Anthony brigade defence line and surround all the leaders? There has been an inside Karuna presence from the beginning and it led to this defeat.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["The most logical explanation is someone kept reassuring them that things would be alright and country XYZ was about to get them a ceasefire."]

Just to add to that, KP has always been the negotiator. I'm not accusing him, but if I was not involved with either side, as a neutral observer I would immediately doubt him and one inside commander close to VP. All of the LTTE money is in the control of KP. He is also the only negotiator on behalf of the LTTE, and he is feeding information back to them about the responses from different countries. If anyone can assure them that everything is fine and another country is about to intervene, it is only KP who had that power.

Peter said...

Badri,

Look at the sides of the tash. It is clearly longer. I agree that the stubbles could have grown in a day, but tash takes much longer. On the original photo he has a straight trim, so even when messed it wouldn't look the the dead photo. The photo could have been found on a camera or computer that the team had with it at the end.

Peter said...

I also think you are reading too into the Soosai missed off the list. There are many senior missing from the list, Soosai happens to be one of them. If DefenceLK had thought about it, they would have also missed out Col. Ramesh, who is married to Soosai's sister. Anyway, I have read papers quoting state media saying Soosai and Pottu were the other two that dies in the ambulance.

For said...

And… Tamilnet says this is a “war crime”!!@@#!

Somebody PLEASE tell me! Why is this a war crime but blowing up government ministers, mayors, bankers, and ordinary citizens is not?

You scream bloody murder when the SLA killed your leaders and you accuse them of war crimes.

But pray tell me how this is any different to say blowing up Premadasa? or Fernandopulle, or Kadiragama when they were not in combat and not holding weapons?

So
cold blooded execution of LTTE leaders = war crime
cold blooded assassination of government leaders = freedom struggle

go figure!!!

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["a) VP doesn't go out to battle field without having a full clean shave"]

Defence.lk had previously reported that Prabhakaran was keeping a long beard as a disguise while staying in the no fire zone.

A perfectly clean shave seems to indicate he was in Sri Lankan army custody and instructed to shave so that the body would match his photos and there would be no dispute it was him.

For said...

"The most logical explanation is someone kept reassuring them that things would be alright and country XYZ was about to get them a ceasefire."

Oh for Pete's sake folks is not XYZ India? They were holding out waiting for the Indian election results! when the Congress won they realized the game was up. SLA too went all out thinking the BJP might win. Isn't that obvious?

Indian said...

Bhadri,
I dont know how much role Karuna had to play in this.

Though I have read in LongRanger's blog how highhly SLDF rate Karuna for his military prowess.Loosing might have affected VP militarily.

But I think it was a set of people in close interval that led to this downfall for Tiger's.
Anton Balasingham \ Balraj \ Karuna all being lost in immediate succesion dealt a major blow from which VP never recovered.

Also there is a lot of weightage to your argument that SOMEONE kept saying VP "everything will be fine just hangon there".
Else I dont see any reason why he chose to stayon after the fall of PTK and he lost almost his entire second rung there.

An interesting incident heard\read."All the then Tamil organisation leader's assembled in a hotel in then Madras.Power supply went off suddenly and all of them were talking as usual.When power supply returned VP was seen standing near the door with pistol in his hands" - That shows his survival instincts.I dont think he would have waited like a sitting duck unless he got false promises from someone who mattered the most.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Another odd point was a few days ago when Tamilnet asked other militant groups in Sri Lanka to join their cause and work together. All the other militant groups as far as I can thing are on the Sri Lankan government's side. What was that supposed to mean.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

The video of the general inspecting Prabhakaran's body is taken less than a foot from the lagoon, trying to show like the body was found in the water, but the clothes are all completely dry.

Peter said...

Badri,

VP isn't someone who would listen to anyone's assurances over anything.

He didn't even trust Mathaya. And after an incident like Mathaya, no one would trust anyone anyway.

He often repeated "எல்லோருக்கும் பலவீனம் உண்டு". That's what kept him alive against all odds for so many decades.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Someone managed to steal his watch too.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

ITN says they are going to show Soosai's body. Let's wait and see.

Upul said...

can you show me a link to the watch ?

m.q.k said...

most media are asking questions about the ID card...

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Please read the following statements from Laxman Hulugalle, Defence Spokesperson for Sri Lankan army:

["Replying to a question as to why no injury marks or burn marks were seen on his body, he said that Prabhakaran's back side of the head is damaged and also that there were injuries on his body though only a mark was visible from his forehead. The spokesperson said that the LTTE chief must have died only with the effect of one bullet that he faced on his head."]

["Briefing further, he said that the LTTE chief might have known about his son's death much before his own death."]

So the back of the head is blown out (exit wound), and there is a hole in the center of his forehead (entry wound). Clearly he was shot in the head at short range. Also he hints that Prabhakaran knew his son had died, but doesn't say how.

දේශපාලුවා said...

The greatest tricksters of SL history tricked in to death you mean.


The injuries on the bodies of all LTTE leaders show that they were sustained by close quarter gun fights, proving again that SLA didn't use artillery let alone excessive even after all civilians were removed from the area.

Redemption at last, pro LTTE western media and government have to eat their bitter pill now.

andare said...

fatpig brought to the bank of the lagoon to wash the body for easy identification. Because, he was found dead inside a earth hole and mud was all around his body.

andare said...

now winners are KP and the gang, who collect money in Europe and canada....
KP trick his leader to hold unnecessarily to get killed by ARMY. Civilians also release on his advice to give a avenue for ARMY to kill all the pigs inside.

Semmozhi said...

Badrinath,

You look like a Srilankan mole trying to confuse the Tamil Diaspora. You are shooting on everyone..Soosai, KP, Nadesan , Tamilnet ..Almost everyone. You are not beyond doubt. Tamils beware.

දේශපාලුවා said...

Prabakaran's injury was very common among SLA casualties , specialy new recruits. It is very consistent with a close quarter wound sustained at a distance of about 50-100 Meters by a heavy caliber bullet. (its Ironic if SLA used the heavy calibur anti air craft guns captured from LTTE against them).

The rule is to lie down and keep ur head down during heavy fire and retreat. Most new recruits lift their head up instinctively at the first moment they sense that the fire is dying down, just to get hit on the forehead by a bullet.

Experienced soldiers never do this, you will never see such wounds on experienced soldiers. But if u have gone to funerals of your friends who died just after joining the army you would see a body with the top part of their head wrapped with bandages.

Prabakaran who never faught after the thinnaveli junction fight (Jul 7 1983) would not have behaved like an experienced fighter. He did the mortal mistake that thousands of fresh SLA soldiers who fell victim to him did even a few of my dear friends. Lift his head up during a fire fight.

Semmozhi said...

I just noticed that Pripaharan uniform is wet.

m.q.k said...

No minorities in Sri Lanka? Really?John Boonstra - May 19, 2009 - 10:36am

I don't want to be seen as reflexively comparing everything to Rwanda, but Sri Lanka's situation bears some similarities as well: an extremist (and terrorist) group of violent separatists, squashed by an aggressive military offensive, creating a dangerous glut of displaced persons and the need to deftly manage potentially volatile post-conflict ethnic politics. And now, Sri Lanka's president, Mahinda Rajapaksa, seems to be taking a page from Paul Kagame's book in simply declaring that there is no such thing as ethnicity in Sri Lanka. And his seemingly sincere words of reconciliation -- spoken, not insignificantly, in the Tamil language -- notwithstanding, my legitimate concerns of ethnicity-based reprisals were not exactly assuaged by this comment by Rajapaksa:

"There are no minority communities in this country. There are only two communities, one that loves this country and another that does not," he said.

I don't think that kind of confrontational rhetoric is exactly the way to win the hearts and minds of moderate Tamils still interested in some sort of autonomy. The dangerous ambiguity and Manichean articulation of patriotism in this statement should give pause to anyone worried about the fragile state of post-LTTE society in Sri Lanka.

Rajah said...

Hello,
guys
KP - Kumaran pathmanathan and ltte negotiator selvaraja pathmanathan am i correct ? .

onecountry said...

"Someone managed to steal his watch too"

And.. none of the leaders had the cynide neckless. Do what I saw, not what I do. LMAO.

onecountry said...

Channel 4 and KP lost credibility. Yes channel 4 keep on interviewing known terrorists. LMAO.

Sri Lankan at the Stanford GSB said...

They are all dead, and deservedly.

Who cares how they died. The people in Sri Lanka Tamil, Sinhala and Muslim alike can rejoice.

What we should be worrying about is making sure enough international aid and support gets through to the country to help the displaced persons and civilians in the North who have been freed from the LTTE reign of terror.

Revenge said...

"KP - Kumaran pathmanathan and ltte negotiator selvaraja pathmanathan am i correct ? ."

Yes not the same person, many on both sides are confused by this and think the current International Negotiator is KP who used to run the procurement department. I too was confused about it until I clarified with someone in the know some time ago.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["You look like a Srilankan mole trying to confuse the Tamil Diaspora."]

I realize some of the statements here won't be palatable to most people. I have also thought about deleting this article because it will hurt some peoples sentiments. I will likely delete this article in a short bit and let the propaganda be accepted by everyone.

Having said that, to me its a fact that both Nadesan and KP were trying to organize a surrender at the last minute. Even Peter mentioned it but said it was to test the International community. It obviously wasn't a test, it was a factual attempt to save the lives of the leaders and the injured cadres as well. I am not criticizing Nadesan for this. I am just pointing out there was an attempt to surrender. Tamilnet later reported that they DID surrender, and were massacred afterwards.

So Nadesan, Pulidevan, and Charles Anthony were massacred after surrender (accepted by Tamilnet), but Prabhakaran, Soosai and Pottu Amman didn't participate in that surrender? Maybe that's the case, but it doesn't make sense to me.

Charles Anthony has the exact same wound as Prabhakaran. Tamilnet accepts Charles Anthony's wound as an execution wound. So why shouldn't we think Prabhakaran's wound is an execution wound?

KP is busy telling people Prabhakaran is fine and in a safe place. Please explain about this safe place. Just a few days ago Nadesan was telling everyone how we are winning the war and the Singhala armies are being decimated. It was only a matter of days before their forces would be broken and pushed out of the Vanni. A couple weaks ago he said the same thing. In fact everyone has been saying the exact same thing, while the lines kept being pushed further and further back. You may accept everything on Tamilnet as 100% truth, but both sides have been using propaganda, and the full truth is rarely presented to the public.

What has happened is a terrible tragic loss. You may want to accept the polished version that everything is alright, but its not true. There has been irreparable damage to the Tamil struggle. Thousands of heroic fighters have layed down their lives, and all of the leadership has been decimated. There is no acceptable explanation for how this is possible.

You may still be trying to convince people that Deepan and Amuthab are alive, but the fact is every single one of the leaders are dead. This could not have happened without a traitor involved very high in the leadership.

m.q.k said...

The announcement of the death of LTTE leader V Prabhakaran by the Sri Lankan Army has not created any flutter in the Lankan refugee camps in these two towns, but most inmates dismissed the reports as false.

"Prabhakaran is not dead. He will emerge stronger... nobody can touch even his shadow," Andrews, a refugee at Mandapam camp said, referring to pictures of Prabhakaran's body shown by TV channels.

"Prabhakaran has been fighting for us for more than 30 years, we know his strength, calibre, as well as the strength of the Lankan army," Sivagnanam, a refugee at Dindigul camp felt.

The refugees are also sceptical about returning to Sri Lanka, in spite of the promises held out by Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksha.

"Even if unfortunately Prabhakaran had died, another Prabhakaran will emerge. The LTTE was crippled by lack of arms and ammunition. It was not a real war, but a one-sided war," another refugee and a retired policeman, Velmurugan said.

Referring to the Sri lankan president's assurance that Tamils would be given equal rights, refugees at a camp near Tiruvathavur said they did not believe his words.

"We want the Indian government's assurance for our safe return," said S Malini, a graduate from Colombo University. "When we stayed there, the Lankan government failed to protect us. It was LTTE which protected us.

Vijayarani, another refugee, says they will return to Sri Lanka only if there is a separate Eelam. She lost her husband in the battle in the island and came here as a refugee. Her children did not know anything about Jaffna. Though they were eager to see Lanka, they fear the Army, she says.

Meanwhile, security around all the refugee camps has been tightened to prevent any infiltration. Additional armed police guard have been posted in all the camps.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Yes not the same person, many on both sides are confused by this and think the current International Negotiator is KP who used to run the procurement department."]

Soosai referred to him as KP in the audio recording. I believe they are one and the same.

Rajah said...

Revenge
so Negotiator KP do not have control over money. i think sl govt trying its best to brake Tamil diaspora network,we have to be vigilant.

m.q.k said...

EU states sell arms to Sri Lanka while condemning violencehttp://euobserver.com/13/28155

LankaBoy_007 said...

I totally agree with bardi. After trick him to surrender with lollypop they arrest the CA. then they take him to a nice place. Then army tickle him to laugh to get a photograph (say cheers smiles..) show he is looks like happy. Then BANG… just under the left eye. They kill him. One more thing after they killed him army spray some uria(preferably urine) on his face to get grow up some bearded coz in the pic CA shine and clean . Everything sorted airlifted to vellamulli waikal done. damn..... They forgot to change the shirt idiots..

m.q.k said...

The United Nations Human Rights Council will hold a special session on the situation in Sri Lanka next week, after finally gathering enough signatures of member states.

'The Human Rights Council cannot be silent when innocent civilians are caught up in armed conflicts,' the council's President Martin Ihoeghian Uhomoibhi said in a statement.


Upul said...

people who think the picture indicate a dead VP, please goto madam tussauds wax museum.

LankaBoy_007 said...

i havent seen any pig in madam tussads?

Revenge said...

"Soosai referred to him as KP in the audio recording. I believe they are one and the same.
"

I will have to confirm again then...but I insisted if the person was sure that they were not the same and they said so. They are quite connected so I am asuming they would know...oh well doesn't matter much now though does it.

Rajah said...

Kumaran pathmanathan is aa arm dealer, i dont think ltte use Kumaran pathmanathan for negotiation while they have political rep (especially ex peace talk negotiators) available in overseas.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

So you think Prabhakaran escaped, but Nadesan, Charles Anthony, Pulidevan and dozens of others, plus 1,000 injured cadres were left to die. I realize it is terrible news and most people will be in denial.

The Sri Lankan government could never dare show a fake wax Prabhakaran. They would be made fools as soon as he showed up.

m.q.k said...

[They would be made fools as soon as he showed up.]

no need..they are proven fools...

m.q.k said...

anyone think the human right special session on shit lanka will have any effect?

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["They are quite connected so I am asuming they would know..."]

Again this next comment most won't find comfortable, and I am sorry for having to say it. Most who are highly connected will say what they are instructed to say, even if is not necessarily 100% true.

They are trained to follow orders and to speak for the good of the cause. If that means saying Deepan is alive, then they will say Deepan is alive. If that means saying Prabhakaran is in a safe place, then they will say Prabhakaran is in a safe place. If it means saying the Singhalam army is decimated and the LTTE will retake the Vanni any day now, then they will say that as well. If it means saying there were only 4,000 LTTE casualties over the last 2 years but there were 22,000 Sri Lankan casualties, then they will say that.

I am not criticizing them for this. But just saying we all have to hear things and then interpret what we hear based on who said it and what strings are pulling them.

For the last months we have been hearing so many things from all sorts of people, some highly connected, and today we can look back and check off which ones weren't true. It's an unfortunate and terrible position the Tamil people are in right now. Denial and misleading information for the sake of softening the pain is not going to help the Tamil cause at this point.

Rajah said...

my 2nd hand information ltte negotiate for injured and civil officers.

LankaBoy_007 said...

According to badri u cant trust tamils.. They betrayed vp. Even ur umbilical brothers in TN betray u. I couldn’t c the blood bath promise by Vaiko(loser).. hmm seems like people disappear with ur hard earn money. I can understand ur feelings. Been a stateless must have been hard for u. only relief at the moment for u that velu is alive™.. so donate some money to final war™ and more and more listen to the badris fairy tales.

agentx said...

well this doesnt make any difference to me..they had to pay for their crimes...this is not what id give them if i get ma hands on those two bastards..they killed thousands of civilians and u ask us to let them just walk away...may be ua mom did that but not us..rot in hell u ass holes jz rot in hell.death is too good for u

Revenge said...

"Denial and misleading information for the sake of softening the pain is not going to help the Tamil cause at this point.
"

Agreed, we need to face reality and move forward so that all the sacrifice is not for naught, don't get me wrong I always take what even the connected say with a pinch of salt... always I belive in 'trust but verify'.

Everyone of our girls and boys from leaders on down had already knowlingly forefit their lives when they took up the struggle. Let us use this last sacrifice to achieve what they fought for, freedom for the Tamil people. If the LTTE is no more there is no longer an excuse for Hindia and the BIC (Blind IC) to deny the very real grieviances of our people.

Rajah said...

ok i have listen again soosai interview he saying k.p.pathmanaathan not KP

Revenge said...

"they killed thousands of civilians and u ask us to let them just walk away..."

So what should we do with your leaders? Who started it? Don't act as if there is no blood on your hands.

m.q.k said...

anyone think the human right special session on shit lanka will have any effect?

agentx said...

i too have been looking for what others promised that would happen after the death of the great good for nothing sole representative of tamils...no offense for u guys but u seriously should have selected some other guy vt some brains as ua representative...

LankaBoy_007 said...

Badri the editor removed article after reading my comment. Coz he understood he was stupid enough to made such a stupid conspiracy theory.

agentx said...

well dude human rights only have effect on the civilians not the fuckin terrorists...if there have been any real cases,of course am sure there are none,then human rights have something to do...and dude where were these human rights guys when ltte attacked civilian busses,trains,villages???? come on have a look around...those are total fake working for the terrorists..what can civilians get from such a bunch od cocksuckers????

Rajah said...

agentx,
do you have any idea how many tamils kiled by Sri lankan bombardment ?

agentx said...

@ revenge....dude why on earth area u trying to justify the terrorists...we all know what they were doing vt civilians as a human shield???? u want to become a part of the LTTE gay parade.fine go ahead..but remember thare are enough straight people around...ua choice is not there choice

agentx said...

rajah,just because there are tamils in the ltte and the army is slaying them u cant say that the army is slaying tamils...terrorism should end...they were the ones who picked the guns...the army already had them in their hands

agentx said...

and rajah..u got any idea of how many civilians the LTTe has killed???

Arshed said...

Prabhakaran's dead and his reign of terror and mayhem is over... Better fuckin face it.. The SL Army presented its evidence and if conspiracy theorists believe otherwise please present at least equally credible evidence to counter the govt's claims.. Prbahkaran'sa goner... it's a pity to see so many thamils being misled by his false and pretentious ideology which no doubt over the course of time has transpired into a means of self sustainability.. How can one trust a leader who didn't lead by example? But there is hope and we have to strive to safeguard the right s of everyone thru mutual cooperation and trust cuz we are the minority and we have to co-exist..

Rajah said...

agentx,
ok how about sending mig and battle tank to maharagama. i have reliable information black tiger hiding in magaragama. start your bombardment in magaragam

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["ok i have listen again soosai interview he saying k.p.pathmanaathan not KP"]

I think that is the same as saying KP.

Gayan said...

Hello most enlightened janitor Peelamists!!

Did you have a nice day??

I bet you did!!!

:-)))

Gayan said...

[I think that is the same as saying KP.]

Who in the world cares what that faggot, arms dealer s name is???
(except for Peelamists)

Rajah said...

agentx

"and rajah..u got any idea of how many civilians the LTTe has killed???"

if your want healthy discussion i am ready, i am not ready to waste time

Arshed said...

@Rajah how the fuck can u credibly state the no of thamils killed by the SL army.., Just shove ur bullshit false figures up ur ass... This sort of false allegations of genocide not only screws up the image of the country in the face of the int. community but it creates unnecessary hatred amonsgt ppl... either give credible evidence or fuck off... by saying false things u are screwing ur own country's ppl and it's image... keep that in mind and careful who u listen because there's no plausible reason as to why the SL army would attempt genocide or ethnic cleansing because if there was a conflict it was between the SL army and the LTTE... get ur facts straight...

Gayan said...

[ok how about sending mig and battle tank to maharagama.]

We don't need battle tanks to weed out/kill one rat!!
But when you are talking of thousands of rats, that is a different question!!

Gayan said...

[Prabhakaran's dead and his reign of terror and mayhem is over..]

Amen to that brother!!

Arshed said...

@ Rajah ...pls send ur credible info to the SL army and they will bombard or do whatever the fuck they deem suitable to safeguard the integrity and safety of all sri lankans... against any form of terrorism...

Gayan said...

[if your want healthy discussion i am ready]

ditto!

Rajah said...

arshed

with all the respect, why you did not voiced when your follow citizen (if u respect Tamils as sri lankan) being killed by govt bombardment and denied access food and medicine.

Gayan said...

[with all the respect, why you did not voiced when your follow citizen (if u respect Tamils as sri lankan) being killed by govt bombardment and denied access food and medicine.]

Would LTTP listen to us and put down their arms to save the innocent??
Never!!
We can't ask the govt forces to put down their arms or stop killing terrorists, can we??
And what the heck are Sri Lankans to do if the LTTE placed their artillery inside the safe zone and kept the civilians by force as shields??

Bhairav said...

[Also he hints that Prabhakaran knew his son had died, but doesn't say how.]

There were rumors circling around yesterday that VP's family was executed in front him. So events pointing into CA's execution, may have been carried out in front of VP to give more sufferings. If that's the case, I pray, Mathivathani and other children weren't in the war zone.

SLA clearly said yesterday that they've collected 400+ bodies of LTTE. It simply tells SLA simply executed some of the family members of LTTE leadership.

I do not know what to say, but, I clearly see VP wasn't the man many thought he was capable of, at least, for last 2 years.

Being said that, if GoSL can get away by killing and wounding of 65,000+ innocent Tamils in less than 4 months, Tamils will hold the grudge against them for years to come. When the price is right, Sri Lanka will be dealt with severe blow that they won't recover for decades and centuries. How can they look forward to the future of SL? Federal solution is only way forward to current conflict.

Laptop Kumara Ramawickrama said...

See the updated Video in Daily mirror. Mouth is slightly opening and closing. Is it possible in a dead body?

agentx said...

rajah..i cant see why such an intelligent person,like u taking the side of the terrorists...and if there is a black tiger in maharagama am sure the dehiwala zoo will take good care of him..so please tell him to go back to his cage...and one more thing,if ua talking numbers talk numbers not the cum outa a mouth of a good for nothing terrorist...prove that the slaf bombed civilians..i mean real proof.not the play produced at the LTTE theatres..u lack facts my friend...seriously

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["my 2nd hand information ltte negotiate for injured and civil officers."]

And one of those civil officers is Prabhakaran's son. Do you really believe the LTTE could allow Prabhakaran's son to be arrested without it affecting the freedom struggle. There is no way they could have planned to hand Prabhakaran's son over to the Sri Lankan Army while Prabhakaran remained free to fight the war.

Everything points to a complete disaster having unfolded. We can pretend it was part of the plan to hand Charles Anthony and Nadesan over to the Sri Lankan army, but it just doesn't make any sense at all. The LTTE could never have handed Prabhakaran's son over to the Sri Lankan army as part of a "standard plan". It was simply an emergency situation that arose due to no options remaining.

In my mind I can't come up with any logical reason that the entire LTTE leadership could end up in a situation where they are wiped out unless there was an intricate plot, a coup, plotted from within to destroy the leadership.

Gayan said...

[There were rumors circling around yesterday that VP's family was executed in front him. So events pointing into CA's execution, may have been carried out in front of VP to give more sufferings.]

What goes around comes around buddy!! KARMA does work!! How many families do you think VP, the dead faggot, has torn apart???

[SLA clearly said yesterday that they've collected 400+ bodies of LTTE.]

Bravo!!

[Being said that, if GoSL can get away by killing and wounding of 65,000+ innocent Tamils in less than 4 months,]

More bs for Peelamists to savor!!!

[Tamils will hold the grudge against them for years to come.]

Yeah! The Tamils will never forget how bad the LTTP faggots treated them!! They'll never forgive LTTP!!

[When the price is right, Sri Lanka will be dealt with severe blow that they won't recover for decades and centuries.]

WAIT AND SEE(TM)!!
Don't these Peelamists ever stop waiting???

[How can they look forward to the future of SL?]
With optimism, faith and pride!!!

Rajah said...

gayan .

you could have asked your govt to stop bombardment. if your govt had let free media and NGO inside safezone you would have learned truth. any past is past. how about voice for decent political solution for Tamils. can u ask your govt to give back Rs. 75,000,000 TRO money and Rs. 30bn(Rs 30 000 000 000) tamils dormant accounts . so we can rebuild with our own money

agentx said...

laptop kuma...dude how will ua mouth move when ua head is half blown away??? lets talk sense shall we????

Gayan said...

[and if there is a black tiger in maharagama am sure the dehiwala zoo will take good care of him..so please tell him to go back to his cage...]

Good one agentx!!
LMAO

Peter said...

SLA has actually collected in excess of 1,000 bodies. They are reluctant to say or show photos of the disabled and bedridden cadres they had massacred.

ICRC and IC knows for sure that cadres from Navam Arivukoodam, Mayuri Illam, and recently injured were all in the area on Monday morning.

There were significant number of civilians, blind/deaf housed at Iniyalvalavu Illam and a number of civil cadres.

agentx said...

well this is the country of us all and we shall rebuild that..plus its not only tamils who belong there..so fuck the tro..its gona go under government supervision..dude tro had that money for a long time..so wheres the promise development in wanni???? is it only for the LTTE development of is that for the civilians??

Rajah said...

agentx,

i was a pro govt person , do you know who change me to pro ealam person ?
1. cinnamon garden police pro govt - anti govt.
2. Rajepakse brothes and ramukola anti govt pro eelam

Gayan said...

[if your govt had let free media and NGO inside safezone you would have learned truth.]

Yeah!! Right!!
May I ask you how did you get to know the 210% TRUTH(R)???
Through Tamilnut and the rest of the joke sites attached to 'comedy central' I suppose!!

Laptop Kumara Ramawickrama said...

Defence.lk announced 18 names yesterday. Why didn't they show those 18 leaders dead bodies and faces? Is it time consuming to make 18 masks?

Laptop Kumara Ramawickrama said...

Why can't they bring the body to colombo and show to the international media to take the Video?

Gayan said...

Peeter,
[SLA has actually collected in excess of 1,000 bodies. They are reluctant to say or show photos of the disabled and bedridden cadres they had massacred.]

If that's so then the SLA just put them out of their misery!! If it happened the way you said, it was done out of mercy, not hate!!

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["See the updated Video in Daily mirror. Mouth is slightly opening and closing. Is it possible in a dead body?"]

Video quality is poor, same video is there on youtube in higher quality, but I dont see any movement in the mouth.

Gayan said...

[Why can't they bring the body to colombo and show to the international media to take the Video?]

It will happen after the body is seen by SL and Indian officials!
But, why would anyone waste that much time and money over a dead terrorist??

Rajah said...

gayan

yes gayan i don't know the truth as well. but i kown SLA and SLAF will do from my past experience. any its past and no point of talking

can u ask your govt to give tamils money to tamils [Rs 75,000,000 TRO money and Rs. 30bn(Rs 30 000 000 000) Tamils dormant accounts . so we can rebuild with our own money]

Bhairav said...

Badri, I admire you for your great analytical skills. No need to worry for when you call a spade a spade.



WORD IS OUT JUST A WHILE AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THE BIGGEST TRAITOR OF ALL, KARUNA, showed all the family members of LTTE leadership to SLA, subsequently many of those family members were executed by SLA.

Gayan said...

Laptop Kumara,
[Defence.lk announced 18 names yesterday. Why didn't they show those 18 leaders dead bodies and faces? Is it time consuming to make 18 masks?]

Even your precious Tamilnut.com admits many top leaders died!! Why the heck are you still denying the obvious??
Poor Laptop Kumara must be soooo disappointed that he doesn't trust anyone anymore!!

agentx said...

for ua information i think there was this picture showing clearly how the LTTE is showing u dumbheads how the slaf is bombing the civilians.....and are u guys thinking that all those people went from kilnochchi to p'k'irippu and the NFZ according to the free will???come on blow me if so

Gayan said...

[THE BIGGEST TRAITOR OF ALL, KARUNA,]]

No!
Karuna is the only one who understood terrorism is not the way!! No one thought more of Tamils in SL!!

Bhairav said...

As Badri said, Karuna's moles played a huge hand in these treacherous acts.

Gayan said...

[can u ask your govt to give tamils money to tamils]

Hey! We don't have it!!
Ask the EU and USA for the money in the banned accounts!!

Laptop Kumara Ramawickrama said...

See the video analysis is here from Makkal TV.
http://www.kalakam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1009#p1112

Gayan said...

[but i kown SLA and SLAF will do from my past experience.]

SLA, SLN and SLAF are the most disciplined military outfits in the world!! They would never harm civilians intentionally!!

Look at the people in IDP centers, see how glad they are to be with SLDF!!

agentx said...

guys isnt this rather confusing coz tamils are asking for money back??? y cant u ask to rebuild the place for u guys???huh that will save u guys a lot of hard work ne...why on earth are u guys interested in money?? its the last thing u need

Rajah said...

gayan

TRo fund frozen by Central bank (from sri lankan bank) and all dormant accounts i am tallking about sri lankan govt took all non operating (more than 10 years ) bank account holded by north tamil individuals, trust, charity and temples , this money in sri lanka (may be rajapakse bro took ot US)

Gayan said...

[See the video analysis is here from Makkal TV.]

And we should care what a dumb TV channel says because????

Peter said...

There are two videos on YouTube.

The first one where the body is shown, face isn't very visible. I would have been skeptical about this video.

The second one shows a face that is 100% like VP's but hair and ears are covered.

Handkerchief used to cover the head are different on both videos.

Where the face is visible, soldier pulls out VP's tag from his shirt pocket. Tags are worn around neck, on arm and on leg. This is suspicious.

They also show is LTTE ID card, which looks genuine.

No pistol or belt is visible in either videos.

Would VP have took his ID with him but not a pistol? Perhaps pistol had been thrown or dropped.

Where the face is shown, I am tempted to believe the mask story because the edges of face, including neck, are not shown; they are hidden by one effort or another.

Equally puzzling is the manner in which his body is said to be found. On its own at the bank of the lagoon. I think he would have always traveled with around two to four body guards. Where were their bodies?

SLA had already shown, in a single report, people who were part of the 100 man team in the final assault and the important political wing cadres who staid behind.

Already they have brushed aside the earlier, apparent lie, about the ambulance where VP's body was charred. Both BBC and The Times have pointed out discrepancies, but bandas have ignored them. Simply deleted the story from DefenceLK.

Likewise, if VP shows up later, they will say LTTE had killed and dumped a body double to purposely mislead the hunt for VP. A day later they will say real VP killed again.

Rajah said...

gayan sain "Look at the people in IDP centers, see how glad they are to be with SLDF!"

you have never seen them in battle field. i have seen them, as i say past is past.

give all Total known tamils fund Rs 30,075000000 back to tamils and let un and ICRC , free media insite. we will build north. you can give some morel support

Laptop Kumara Ramawickrama said...

All these Video gimmicks are to divert the EU, UN actions against MR,GR and SF for war crimes.

[The United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) will hold a special session on the situation in Sri Lanka next week, after finally gathering enough signatures of member states. "The Human Rights Council cannot be silent when innocent civilians are caught up in armed conflicts," the council's President Martin Ihoeghian Uhomoibhi said in a statement.]

[The council had just over one third of the 47 members signatures, with 17 members, including France, Germany and Britain, calling for the session.]

Peter said...

Gayan said...

SLA, SLN and SLAF are the most disciplined military outfits in the world!! They would never harm civilians intentionally!!

Look at the people in IDP centers, see how glad they are to be with SLDF!!

-----------

I hope you are a Tamil having a laugh. A banda would never say "look at the people in IDP centers" when their government has banned ever outside person from these places. Even deported those who sneaked out a video.

Reality said...

>>
you could have asked your govt to stop bombardment. if your govt had let free media and NGO inside safezone you would have learned truth. any past is past. how about voice for decent political solution for Tamils. can u ask your govt to give back Rs. 75,000,000 TRO money and Rs. 30bn(Rs 30 000 000 000) tamils dormant accounts . so we can rebuild with our own money


hehe, yes of cource, you can rebuild terror group with that money, and also we c what NGO's did at kilinochchi when army liberated it, ..helping people, yeah, come on ,..

Gayan said...

[i am tallking about sri lankan govt took all non operating (more than 10 years ) bank account holded by north tamil individuals, trust, charity and temples ]

TRO never gave a damn penny to poor Tamils, their money was handled by the LTTP according to their whims and fancies!! A government can't let money go to a terrorist organization!!

Reality said...

and hey peter, real Tamils have smile in their faces after 26 years,..

Gayan said...

Peter,

Don't you know ICRC, Care, Oxfam, Lions, Rotary, SL NGO's SL media and Indian media are allowed inside IDP centres??
We don't want LTTP supporting media to go inside IDP centers!!

agentx said...

well who brought them to the battle fields????? who needed the human shield???and what the fuck happened to prabas cynide capsule??? dudez u gota be kidding me vt all this shit...seems like u guys have even emptier brains than that dead pig

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Defence.lk announced 18 names yesterday. Why didn't they show those 18 leaders dead bodies and faces? Is it time consuming to make 18 masks?"]

I suspect they are all shot in the head, so it will look very suspicious if they show them.

Rajah said...

Gayan,

if you can't trust as how can we trust you
ok can we do this way
can you ask your govt to distribute each IDPS RS 100250 from Tamils fund

30 075 000 000 / aprox 300 000 IDP = RS 100 250

Chamitha said...

SL is free of terror at last. It is a fortune that Tamil community was set free from this deadly menace from now on. Long live Sri Lanka...!!

Rajah said...

gayan we are talking about FREE MEDIA not guided toure

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Here is a post from someone in DBS Jeyaraj blog comments section:

139. shanthi krish | May 19th, 2009 at 5:33 am

I just saw thalaivar’s body on local TV. it’s obvious he was not killed while trying to escape. looks like he was kept, tortured & executed by a shot in the head. the utube video will be out soon. take a look at the fingers. they look crushed.

the day mahinda rushed back was the day thalaivar was captured. so he must have suffered in army custody for a day or two. my guess is that he was tricked into a bogus surrender. the proof for this theory lies in the fact that MR boldly declared tuesday’s speech in parliament.

if thalaivar was not in custody he would have never done that. he could not have made the speech with thalaivar loose. so the army obviously got the set of LTTE leaders earlier & announced their deaths in batches. thalaivar’s death was announced last in a very dramatic fashion.

the whole thing was timed & set up.

agentx said...

rajah,they had this money before they were displaced..so why ask now?? were u waiting for this sorta situation to come ???? what were the TRO doing vt that money all this time??where is the so called development???

Rajah said...

agentx
i am not asking for me i am asking for idp re settlement and cover idp basic needs

can i take your answer as NO ? to my request then don't united sri lanka or tamils too your follow citizen

Rajah said...

agentx , gayan
this money not from idps this money blongs to tamil live in overseas govt took this money due to account not operated for mote than 10 years we are willing to give to our tamil idp

Gayan said...

[gayan we are talking about FREE MEDIA not guided toure]

Once inside an IDP center, it IS free media!!
You guys were shouting media wasn't let inside IDP camps!!

Rajah said...

Gayan why don't u answer my question about money

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

The video shows flies landing on the face. It is definitely a real face. Flies accumulate and land on dead bodies.

Gayan said...

[this money blongs to tamil live in overseas]

We all know why the diaspora are sending money to SL! They want terrorism to continue so their refugee visas are not canceled!!

The account was not operated for ten years TRO was not let by the govt. for things to be done their way, unlike EU and USA!!

Peter said...

Badri,

I'll have to disagree with the captured/tortured theory.

If they had caught him alive, they could have had a one month trial and hung him. That would have been all Bandas dream.

Even if they didn't want the hassle of a trial, they would have tried to get info from him before killing him. Given the value of info VP would have, it would have been well worth for them to delay his photo-op by a week.

As for other leaders, I don't think Bandas really give a damn about shots to head. They would show as many as they can, as they've done with CA.

Gayan said...

[Gayan why don't u answer my question about money]

Just did man!!

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Where the face is visible, soldier pulls out VP's tag from his shirt pocket. Tags are worn around neck, on arm and on leg. This is suspicious.

They also show is LTTE ID card, which looks genuine.

No pistol or belt is visible in either videos."]

Good point, but I believe it supports he was executed. When he was taken into custody they would have made him remove everything, such as gun, ID tag, and watch. Notice his watch is missing from the body. Either they stole it after they found the body, or they took it off him when he surrendered. I believe everything points to a surrender and then execution.

Gayan said...

You know smthing Rajah!!
Tamil protests are costing 8 million and rising!!
Why don't you use that money to help the IDP s in SL??

http://www.thelondondailynews.com/tamil-protests-costing-million-costs-rising-p-2935.html

Peter said...

[The video shows flies landing on the face. It is definitely a real face. Flies accumulate and land on dead bodies.]

Yes, on the one where full face isn't shown. No flies on second. Even then, the theory is that of a mask on an existing body.

Honestly, I am not sure either way. It may or may not be VP. If only bandas were involved I would have said it is VP, but RAW is capable of many things.

Rajah said...

please read and ask question if need explanation just don't answers without reading it

do you know what is dormant accounts ?

FreedomFighter said...

Tribute to VP
.....

Peter said...

Gayan,

You are simply jokes. It is costing the police, not the people.

Gayan said...

[No pistol or belt is visible in either videos.]

The pistol and belt was shown in Rupavahini news, which was in Shavendra Silva s hands.. They even showed it to Karuna Amman and Daya Master!!
They all recognized the body and the belongings..

Rajah said...

Sri lankan govt have 30,0750 million tamils Fund and u r taking 8 million i am missing somthink


all i can relise your here to entertine your self than building unity

Peter said...

FreedomFighter,

I am reluctant to click on tinyurl. If you are the real guy, not fake, pls post the long link.

khanthas said...

Well played GOSL ! While everyone is talking about VP, the massacre of thousands civilians is obliterated.

The IC jokers are asking MR gently to be magnanimous in victory. Ha Ha Ha….

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

For the time being I have restored the article. If it offends too many of you I will remove it. I apologize for raising doubts about some of the LTTE leaders, but I feel there was a conspiracy involving an unknown number of people, otherwise there is no way the entire LTTE leadership could have been wiped out in this manner.

Peter said...

Daya Master has probably only met VP on two or three occasions.

Only Karuna Amman would know. But is he saying what ever he has to stay alive?

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["Equally puzzling is the manner in which his body is said to be found. On its own at the bank of the lagoon. I think he would have always traveled with around two to four body guards. Where were their bodies?"]

Makes perfect sense if he was executed in custody and then carried on a stretcher to the side of the lagoon.

Bhairav said...

All point to surrender/capture and then execution.

Rajah said...

i just read your link. i cant disagree with peter comment about you

Gayan said...

[You are simply jokes. It is costing the police, not the people.]

If that money were saved, the Brits and also other countries of EU who always help the Tamils could have used that money to help the IDP s instead of giving tear gas showers to janitors!!
Also, if you janitors used that time to scrub toilets instead of protesting, you could have saved millions to help the IDPs!!

Use your brain Pee-ter (if you have one)!!

agentx said...

there were no idps when the accounts were opened...so why???? and if it was for tamil people why wasnt it operated for that long?? were the tamils happy with what they had or did they have more in overseas than needed???comeon pussy make apoint...ua money my money idp whats this bulshit??? there were no idps at the time when the accounts were seized...what are u gona tell about that?? the looser praba knew this would happen and that they should be ready??? may be thats y they took those money bags when escaping leaving their follwers..explain those please

Gayan said...

[Daya Master has probably only met VP on two or three occasions. ]

How the heck do you know that??

Peter said...

Badri,

I think it is better to have the article up as well.

Everyone is doing their own analysis on what may or may not have happened. No one ought to be offended by anyone else's person's perceptions.

My view on KP's denial:

1. VP isn't dead and SLA video is mask.

2. KP announcing death of VP on TamilNet is code for sleeper cells. Usually it would be announcement day + predefined number of days:hours. When CNN-IBN announced VP as dead on Sunday, it was the handiwork of RAW to test sleepers.

agentx said...

executed killed suicide or what ever that asshole is dead...people can live free once again..save ua prayers lil vermins of peelaam...ua thalevar awaits u in a rotting pit full of shit with fingers crossed and a few in his arse... lmao :DDD

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["If they had caught him alive, they could have had a one month trial and hung him. That would have been all Bandas dream."]

From JVP history we know they don't operate like that. They know that the LTTE would take thousands of hostages and other terroristic attacks and try to bargain. Tamil Nadu would also start to heat up. Many complications with a trial. They wanted revenge, and their past history shows how they deal with leaders of insurrections. They are executed and the story ends. At least that is their plan.

["Even if they didn't want the hassle of a trial, they would have tried to get info from him before killing him. Given the value of info VP would have, it would have been well worth for them to delay his photo-op by a week."]

I think after destroying the entire LTTE leadership, they do not need information from Prabhakaran. They have 300,000 people in jails who they can sift through and torture to get information. Col. Karuna is going through them now pointing out the victims. Strategically they did not need Prabhakaran at this stage. From their view point, he is better off dead.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Further, they didnt try to get information from Nadesan, or Pulidevan, or Charles Anthony. Everything points to a predetermined order to execute all LTTE leadership without trial.

Gayan said...

Peter,
[1. VP isn't dead and SLA video is mask.

2. KP announcing death of VP on TamilNet is code for sleeper cells. Usually it would be announcement day + predefined number of days:hours. When CNN-IBN announced VP as dead on Sunday, it was the handiwork of RAW to test sleepers.]

Keep dreaming Pee-ter!! It'll surely give you your Glorious Pee-lame!!
WAIT AND SEE(TM)!!

දේශපාලුවා said...

Dear friends please read my analysis and tribute.
Prabakarans Died like an Inexperienced Soldier.

agentx said...

They know that the LTTE would take thousands of hostages and other terroristic attacks and try to bargain.........???? so why the fuck should we let all that happen???? screw him on stop and shoot in the head..lol..now thats funny..screw and shoot..wonder if thats what happend to praba ant gay anthony..of course they would have loved the feeling of big sinhala dick going inside their tiny ass..damn those gay buggers...rot in hell may u be

Peter said...

Badri,

But VP had much more info than anyone. LTTE and JVP did not operate in the same league. Even if they didn't fancy a trial, they would have tried to interrogate him behind the scene.

Nadeason and Pulidevan were only as senior as Karuna. There weren't that much 'sensitive' info for them to milk from anyone other than VP.

Gayan said...

Have you seen Thalaivar s body in all it's Peelamic glory?? No dignity for terrorists here!! Look how happy Karuna is!!

http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090519_12

agentx said...

do u guys want dna tests to prove that ua the child of ua mom and dad???? peter and badri ,do u????? thats the same thing as prabas trial..we all know that m*fckr did all those crimes..what the heck..screw him right away

Thoughtful Guy said...

Hey Badri.... I'm impressed by your analysis and how you've kept your emotions at bay...

Gayan said...

Even if VP was arrested, as Badri says, I'm glad they didn't mess around with trials!! The whole world knows the crimes he did, so why waste time?? It was done for the good of Tamils mostly, cause in the later years of his life, he was more a meance to Tamil civilians rather than Sinhalese or Muslims!!

Peter said...

VP? http://www.defence.lk/img/20090519_B17.jpg

Look on Karuna Amman's face makes me think yes. http://www.defence.lk/img/20090519_B14.jpg

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

I think we all expected the Sri Lankan army to execute who ever they captured. So the key point is not that they executed them, but how did they get them.

How is it that the entire LTTE leadership was tricked into staying in the war zone beyond any sustainable amount of time. They had thousands of opportunities to leave. Even fishermen were leaving and some ended up in Indonesia, some in Jaffna, some in India.

It isn't enough to say "we expected to win the Indian elections". The Indian elections, even if BJP won, couldn't have been decided till end of May realistically. The LTTE was in deep trouble in February. They needed to have vacated war zone then itself, and anyone in the world knew that.

Many people waited for the ceaseless waves assault, then complained that it never happened. It did happen, in February 1st. The PTK counter assault was the ceaseless waves attack, but when its launched against 50,000 soldiers it doesn't have the same effect as when it is against 1200 soldiers isolated in Mullaitivu. Still, the 59 division never recovered, and never entered combat after that attack. An entire division is nearly 8,000 soldiers, but they were completely decimated.

That assault could have been used to reach the jungles and get out - someone advised the LTTE leadership to stay put and not leave. Even after that, they could have left by boat or plane. There were even boats smuggling mortars into the no fire zone at that time. The LTTE leadership could have left at any time.

Someone obviously was continuously advising them to stay put and not leave. Should we believe that the plan was to stay put till the last day when no one was left and then to try to run across the lagoon with 50,000 soldiers standing guard? That makes no sense. If the plan was to escape, then escape should have come when the option was readily available.

So coming back to the topic. The real point is not that the Sri Lankan army executed them all. The real point is who tricked them to fall into the hand of the Sri Lankan army?

It didn't happen once either. The ananthapuram trap was obviously the original plan to destroy all the LTTE leadership. Who convinced them all to mass in a very dangerous and undefendable location? And who signalled to the Sri Lankan army to box them in and then finish off the military leaders.

From that point itself everyone should have realized the traitors were in deep. But maybe by then it was too late to escape. That was in April. Still there was one and a half months to try to escape, but instead someone told all the leaders to remain in the war zone waiting for the "IC" to intervene. It all looks like a carefully layed plan to make the LTTE leadership extinct.

We can expect some of the bodies that are not shown on the news videos are actually not dead at all. They were hand in hand with the enemy (Karuna), and in the end they will disappear as dead and live a new life with government funding.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Notice how one day later he has a beard. Same thing with Charles Anthony in the photos. Also this means the original photos were extremely fresh. The eyes were very bright in the original photos, almost looking like a doll. But now the eyes are dull. To me this means they executed him and then took the photos very soon.

There is no way they killed him on 17th in a fire fight, and then recovered the body a day later, and it was still looking so fresh.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

I suspect inside Karuna Amman is very sad for what he did.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

How low class to strip Prabhakaran naked to insult him.

frackster said...

[How is it that the entire LTTE leadership was tricked into staying in the war zone beyond any sustainable amount of time.]

if what you say is true you got to hand it over to the SLDF to be able to hatch a plot like this..as you know it is not easy.. MI needs to approach the right ppl or person and offer the right price or whatever at the same time be mindful of a double game from LTTE..

all in all as badri said earlier about how the security in Colombo is better now..the SLDF has become very effective ...by one way or other they got the target !!!

and u all seem to say soosai ....soosai !!!! where is pottu !!! remember it was pottu who was rumored to have had a defected (mahen and SF@LNP)

Rajah said...

karuna saying killed Tuesday (bbc tamil)

info said...

Badrinath and peter can you verify this pls.

http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090519_12

Veeran said...

Badri,

The more i see reports of Mole deep in Ltte leadership, more i am ashamed of being a tamil.

This Image of dead Prabha will haunt tamils for long time.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

["if what you say is true you got to hand it over to the SLDF to be able to hatch a plot like this..as you know it is not easy.. MI needs to approach the right ppl or person and offer the right price or whatever at the same time be mindful of a double game from LTTE.."]

Everything is Karuna. He had contacts with all of the LTTE leadership, and he must have been communicating with many of them over the last year. Somehow he found a weakness in someone. Who knows whether he used money or maybe he kidnapped a relative, or maybe anything. I would not say it is the credit of the Sri Lankan intelligence. Without Karuna nothing could have happened.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

We need to see the bodies of Soosai and Podu Amman so we can give them the respect they deserve without doubt.

Veeran said...

Soosai has been executed as well.

May be he got the rewards ?

Now that badri has picked holes in the theory of SLA killing Ca in combat, they will think twice before releasing any Photos of dead leaders..

Peter said...

Karuna didn't have issues with VP. All his troubles were with Pottu.

If anything, he would have wanted to kill Pottu.

There is no chance of Karuna and Pottu working together against VP.

All these theories still remain as rumors. We should refrain from slurring heroes who fought till their last breath by speculating they may have been traitors.

I think we should give KP another 48 hours to clear things out. On Sunday, when VP rumors were at their height, message was that everything will be cleared on Wednesday, I think I posted it here as well.

Karuna's look on one of the photos tells me that the body is VP. But I seriously doubt he would have had anything to do with VP's killing.

There are hundreds of LTTE families in Trinco, who still harbor LTTE, of whom Karuna knew but did nothing.

Yes he is a traitor, yes he has done a lot of harm. But as a native of Trinco I can firmly say he didn't do as much harm as he could have.

Some of his associates were idiots of first degree, but not Karuna.

LankaBoy_007 said...

Hi badri
So you are saying that praba was in army custody (most probably others too) for 2 or 3days then executed? According to the KP “praba is alive™” until Monday morning and he himself contact and gave orders to silence the guns but never to surrender???? Tamilnet said “praba is alive™” and well even this morning. So then who’s lying? KP or VP or U or Tamilnet?????

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

I just want to say that I feel bad to bring up any names, because obviously some or most of these people will be Maaverars, even if some may be traitors. But the upper level leaders are limited to several people. A plot so deep and complex could only have come from deep inside, perhaps the top advisors. That's why I say we need to see the bodies of the top leaders to be completely free of doubt. Karuna was obviously close friends with most of these people at one time. It would be easy for him to influence one or two old palls under the right circumstances.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Peter, are you aware who Soosai held responsible for his sons death? Did he consider it an accident or an assassination attempt?

His "bullet riddled body" was supposedly recovered, but yet to be shown on TV. Of course both him, Pottu Amman and Prabhakaran were supposedly in the ambulance, which was a pretty stupid story.

Its almost as though the ambulance story was the fall back story in case they didn't find Prabhakaran. I would speculate that Prabhakaran was in a bunker during the Nadesan negotiations, and at that time the Sri Lankan army came out with the ambulance story thinking they wouldn't find him. So they had a half burned body which they would pretend was his. But then once the surrender was negotiated, they canceled that story and eventually betrayed everyone with a masacre. Just a speculation.

info said...

why is LTTE leaders' eyes wipe opened in the first and in the second it is closed.

When someone shoots someone in the head, their eyes automatically closes.

Bhairav said...

I'm more convinced that Pottu is still in SLA custody, so that they can milk more info from him regards to sleeper cells and some of its international links. As you know, some of Tamils prosecuted for buying weapons for LTTE in NY had direct contacts with Poddu.

LankaBoy_007 said...

badri how are u mate. Hope you feeling well. maybe not. Coz once you eat the elam bait it is very hard to digest the facts? may be you wont be recover. It’s a trauma that comes with every morning when you get up and until you pass out in the night and not stopping there it haunted on ur dreams you will sweat and frighten and get up middle of night when you see half headed velu running around ur dreams. hmm what to do? their is a medicine call self immolation. I know very intelligent tamiz like you know how to do that.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Sri Lankan government has now stripped Prabhakaran naked, and rubbed mud all over his naked body, to insult him. They removed all the previous photos showing him in his military uniform, and replaced them with these photos. What a low class thing to do.

Editor: "Badrinath" said...

Always remember the aim is Tamil Eelam. It is not about a single leader or a single person. All the maaveerars are great heroes, but the aim is Eelam at any cost.

info said...

Editor: "Badrinath",

we save these photos for proof.

if they do this to ltte leaders, cadres and so on what would they do to Tamil civilians?

Tamil civilians speak the same language as ltte, same culture as ltte and there are no differences between them.

tn thamilz said...

I am shell shocked to read all these comments from eelam tamils about this "surrender conspiracy".

1. Do you think VP is so dump to listen someone and let entire core of top commanders stay in the zone and hoping that none of the 1000's of shells hit them?
2. Do you think he is really stupid enough to hand himself over and all the top commanders including pottu to sl army?
3. Do you think he and all the top commanders surrender to sl army at the last miniute after 1000`s of innocent civilians got killed?
4. Is he a coward to surrender to the army instead of taking the pill like the way he asked his followers to do (save the 'he did it to save the people' answer. It is not going to fly. 1000's already dead before this 'surrender' option)?

If you say yes to anyone of the above, I lost respect to LTTE leadership and I would say they deserved the fate they got now.

I still believe in what KP said and I feel all these "surrendered-murdered", "captured-murdered" are all just there to put the tamil people's moral down and create a second thought on tamils even if he emerges later.

Bhairav said...

[rubbed mud all over his naked body, to insult him.]

That was clearly to hide the torture marks. Look at his chest, there were some holes.

SuthaS said...

See how we are talking about LTTE leaders... This is the reason SL Government published VP's photos because they know that we're going to talk about this matter and not the thousands of innocent Tamils killed by SL Army. This propaganda really works. The truth behind the genocide is hide behind this story.

tn thamilz said...

SuthaS, exactly.. there is no talk of 25000+ injured civilians or the death 6000+ civilians. Now, we are reduced to talk about how VP got scammed into surrendering at the last minute and tortured murdered.

Bhairav, I know you are very upset but please take a deep breath, stop going to singala site for few days and have faith in the leadership. KP is one of the leader and he says Prabaharan is still alive. Wait for any official statement from LTTE leaders about this incident. Let us not spread rumours about torture and murder. People are already down with his death message and you guys are adding more pain to it with the surrender-torture story.

Bhairav said...

I agree, Eelam is the way forward. Sorry to say but the leadership qualities VP exhibited in last 2 years worse at best. Maintaining the conventional capabilities one thing and advertising to the world different thing, especially when you're banned organization in key countries.

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Veeran said...

Bhairav,

Forget abt Eelam for atleast five years since cong govt will rule in Delhi for next five years .

Tamils have lost completely & it is time to make peace with sinhalas. Otherwise within this year, there will be no tamil left in Srilanka.

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