It appears Prabhakaran and senior leaders were betrayed, possibly by an unknown senior leader, and tricked into surrendering to the Sri Lankan army, after which they were all executed with a shot to the head. It is impossible that both Charles Anthony and Prabhakaran could have been shot directly between the eyes in combat. Several Sri Lankan soldiers have been bragging about events surrounding the execution of the LTTE leadership, including members from the non-combatant civil services wing and even family members of LTTE leaders. We will not go into details of what they say, but it seems to confirm that LTTE leaders were all tricked into surrendering and then cruelly executed.
Prabhakaran was never the person communicating with the Sri Lankan army and the IC. So he had no way of knowing what the real position was, except from what he was told. It would have been very easy for a traitor to convince him that the Sri Lankan army had agreed under IC pressure to a laying down of arms and then negotiations.
Soosai's name seems to have been kept out of most defence.lk reports, making him look like a suspect. But if it was him, they would not have mentioned his wife and children being arrested. It would be better just to escort them away and keep everything a secret. Whatever the case, I am sure there is one or more traitors who are still living, but listed as killed by the Sri Lankan army to give them a new identity. There have been moles inside the LTTE for several years, and the many assassinations are proof of this.
Also note this shocking evidence. The two photographs of Charles Anthony released by the Sri Lankan government (one showing him dead, and one showing him alive) are wearing the exact same clothes. In the living photo he is wearing the same shirt that he was killed in. It appears they took this photo after he was arrested, just before executing him. Please see the photos below:
Please note that there has never been a recent photo available with the Sri Lankan government showing Charles Anthony until the day they recovered his dead body. What is the chance of this? In all of the other reports they released over the last several weeks they have been showing very old photos of him in LTTE uniform, which were clearly taken several years ago. But the day they find his dead body (with a bullet wound directly in the head), they also release a new photo of him which perfectly matches his present looks, and is wearing the exact same clothes as when he was killed. The hair and mustache is even cut to the exact same size and shape. It is clear this photo was taken just hours before he was cruelly executed by the Sri Lankan army with a shot to his head.
This is further proven by the fact that in videos of the body, there are pools of fresh wet blood pouring out of the wounds on his body. This is only possible if the video was taken immediately after he was killed. If he had been killed in combat, or if he had committed suicide, the blood would have already coagulated and would not create fresh puddles when they placed him on the tarpaulin.
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
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Badri, due to the security reason, it will take some time for them to come up with something. Until then, it is better to stop spreading rumours about their "murder". surrendering to sl army means they accept the defeat which in my opinion would be much worse than escape and fight another day or die in battle.
I ALSO THINK SOMETHING FISHY
I THINK MAYBE VP WANTED CA TO BE WITH LTTE CIVIL AUTHORITIES TO BE SURRENDERED, BECAUSE CA WAS NOT GIVING ORDERS HE COULD HAVE BEEN ESCAPED IN TRIALS.
THEN VP SOOSAI POTTU WHO GIVE ORDERS TRY TO FLEE INTO JUNGLES AND GOT KILLED IN THE PROCESS. VP'S BODY IS IN THE WATER FOR A LONG SO THATS WHY IT LOOK BLOATED. THIS IS THE ASSUMPTION I COME UP WITH AFTER READING EVERYONE COMMENTS.
SLA DELAYED VP'S BODY BECAUSE IT WAS INSIDE THE WATER. AS FOR THE PICTURES OF OTHER LEADERS IT DIDN'T MATTER. NO ONE CARES ONLY US KEYBOARD WARRIORS DO.
BUT AS MAKKAL TV SAID. ANOTHER PRABAHARAN WILL RISE TO POWER IN NO TIME. I JUST WONDER IF SLA GOVT WILL LEARN FROM LTTE1.
IF NOT LTTE2 WILL RISE TO POWER
[Present need is to get a federal solution through peaceful method]
absolutely right. The first priority should be to arrest the population decline. If this struggle go on for another 10-20 years, eelam tamil population would be readuced to < 5%. LTTE should have realized it in 2004 and gone for a federal solution instead of sticking to it's own version of solution.
[I would not take KP's word as absolute evidence unless he can show something solid - and that means either a video or a recording of Prabhakaran.]
Surrender story never will go well with the image VP built among the global Tamils. Expecting KP to release the info of VP surrendered with SLA, then subsequently killed after tortured will give negative impact. I doubt that KP will publicly announce the VP's surrender/execution since whatever said about VP- fearless leader and military genius- would become myth in overnight.
["Badri, due to the security reason, it will take some time for them to come up with something. Until then, it is better to stop spreading rumours about their "murder". surrendering to sl army means they accept the defeat which in my opinion would be much worse than escape and fight another day or die in battle."]
It really isn't a rumor. They DID surrender. The only rumor is if Prabhakaran, Soosai and Poddu Amman were involved in that surrender. Tamilnet has admitted (and several reporters have spoken with Nadesan on the phone and got the same message) that Nadesan, Charles Anthony, Pulidevan and many others surrendered to the Sri Lankan army and were "massacred" along with 1,000 wounded cadres.
The surrender story is not the rumor, that is already proven. The only rumor is whether Prabhakaran was involved in that surrender.
1) Prabhakaran and Charles Anthony have the exact same wound in the forhead. Charles Anthony is confirmed as execution by Tamilnet. It is logical to assume Prabhakaran's similar wound is caused by the same method.
2) The body is not a mask. They have taken photos over two days, and the photo has aged as a dead body should.
3) The alternative is to accept that Prabhakaran tried to escape while leaving Nadesan, Charles Anthony, Pulidevan and 1,000 wounded cadres to surrender to the Sri Lankan army. Does that make any sense? What would be the use of Prabhakaran escaping while his son was in the hands of the Sri Lankan army?
4) It is known that Prabhakaran was in the tiny LTTE area of control (800 square meters) when the surrender negotiations were on. It is only logical to conclude he was to be included in it. The alternative is to think that everyone else was going to surrender, but Prabhakaran alone was going to try to escape while being surrounded by 50,000 soldiers. If he was in the area while surrender was being negotiated, then it is safe to assume the surrender included him as well.
5) The body of Prabhakaran did not have the watch, gun belt or ID tag on as it would normally. This suggests these items had been confiscated during a surrender.
6) Both the body of Charles Anthony and Prabhakaran were very fresh when the press took the videos. Charles Anthony even had fresh blood pouring out of his wounds. This shows they had been killed just prior to filming. Prabhakaran's body also had very bright eyes and skin was perfectly clean and bright. The claim that he was killed the day before in a fire fight, but then found one day later cannot be true. The body was not one day old by the condition.
I will be extremely happy when KP proves me wrong, and I will personally post that I am an idiot when it happens. But I don't expect he will be proving me wrong.
If everyone including pottu and VP did surrender and got killed as you claimed, good riddance. Now, the tamils should be careful in choosing the leader who walk the talk.
The island says the following:
["Military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara told The Island the body of Prabhakaran’s second son hadn’t been found."]
I suspect if they do kill his younger son, they will burn the body and never reveal it. Same with his wife. It is a war crime to kill minors and civilians, so they will never publicize it, but I am sure they have done it. They had already reported that both were in the war zone.
From Island:
"The ICRC last night said the LTTE had wanted to surrender to the Sri Lankan Government through the ICRC.
ICRC spokesperson Sarasi Wijeratne told The Island the LTTE request had been passed to the relevant Sri Lankan authorities.
She said the message was given to the Government before Monday’s killing of LTTE leader, Velupillai Prabhakaran."
VP POTTU SOOSAI did not surrender
rest did thinking they can get out
but they didn't know SLA kills 30% of youths in 1990 when they capture civilians thinking they may be ltte
I wonder what is their percentage in 2009 when capturing civilians
but ltte civil authorities are 100% ltte so that is why SLA killed them all
VP tried to flee into jungles so he can regroup later
["VP tried to flee into jungles so he can regroup later"]
That is a possibility. What about Charles Anthony? His body was together with Nadesan, so it seems he was part of the surrender process. Would Prabhakaran plan to surrender his son to the Sri Lankan army? That would severely compromise things in the future.
It's possible all of them were captured at the same time, but all others were killed on day one, and Prabhakaran was killed on day two after torturing. There seems to be several burn marks on the body, which have been covered by mud.
Velu in Amuda.
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090519_03
hi.
anyone see the new photos on army.lk. there are new faces and lies. i need some analyses about the earliest photos of VP(?) and the new one.
I believe the chronology of events could be like this
1. Tigers waited for election results of india on May 16th which cong won.so they know there will be none to bail out them. They made a request thru ICRC for surrender which was relayed to GOSL.
2. First trio of Nadesan, Pulidevan & CA surrender & they were treated nicely with even
CA posing nicely for the photo. GOSL was just waiting for the big Fish Praba , Susai etc to surrender.
3. After a day seeing the good response recevived by the trio, the MIlitary guys Praba,Soosai & Pottu agree to surrender to save the lifes of civilians.Once they are captured, CA was killed along with Nadesan & pulidevan.that explains the one day old beard
on the face of CA when he was killed & the smiling photo release by army.
4. After that Prabha was asked to talk to KP which he did & gave statement to lay down arms.
KP was not aware taht Prabha has surrendered & talking in custody of army.
5. Then Praba & Soosai are murdered after torture with Pottu yet alive just to get more intelligence information from him.Soon he will also float in some canal.
6. All the 25000 civvies including Prabha wife & second son massacred with none to defend them.
End of Eelam...
SAD but reality.
Another rumor posted by a sinhala:
""LTTE top leaders made contact with a 3rd party party and GoSL arranged for their surrender provided they release thousands of civilians. It happened around the time MR was in Jordan. Upon release of the civilians, top brass of the ltte was released to the 3rd party. The 3rd party basically handed over the leaders to GoSL, double crossing ltte. This explains why Pottu was not there, as ltte could have gotten a little suspicious, or may be Pottu was released and still in custody? Praba along with others were captured, interrogated and then killed. I believe this for many reasons."
even if LTTE leader was caught and he talked to KP. The sinhalese don't that much Tamil.
He could of said 'day, ennai pidithegal'
Badri,
"It really isn't a rumor. They DID surrender. The only rumor is if Prabhakaran, Soosai and Poddu Amman were involved in that surrender. Tamilnet has admitted (and several reporters have spoken with Nadesan on the phone and got the same message) that Nadesan, Charles Anthony, Pulidevan and many others surrendered to the Sri Lankan army and were "massacred" along with 1,000 wounded cadres."
Why did they surrender instead of taking cyanide?
["Why did they surrender instead of taking cyanide?"]
There will be different explanations. No one will know the truth.
1) To save the 1,000 wounded cadres and 25,000 wounded civilians.
2) Because they were told it wasn't a surrender, but a laying down of arms followed by negotiations.
3) After everyone else died, they decided they didn't want to die.
4) I have no idea.
Maybe someone else can come up with ideas.
old video i know, but i have just seen this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbstRgPft-0
with the vp saga, i also believe the kidnap and torture theory. notice that he wasn't even wearing a bulletproof vest? if kp can prove that he is alive, i really hope he does it soon...
Sri Lanka's pathetic answer to the killing of Nadesan:
"Last night, Sri Lanka's foreign affairs secretary Palitha Kohona admitted that the men had contacted him to ask how they could surrender.
Dr Kohona said he believed they had been shot "in the back" by their own comrades."
Veeran,
". Tigers waited for election results of india on May 16th which cong won.so they know there will be none to bail out them. They made a request thru ICRC for surrender which was relayed to GOSL."
It seems that amidst all the conspiracy theories, the Eelamoids here are all ducking the simple question: weren't the Tigers supposed to suck cyanide instead of surrendering???
Was wearing the cyanide pill just for show??????
Badri, thanks a lot for at least trying to answer this question.
When you talk in a straightforward manner, it is very hard to make jokes. That's a lot more than I can say for Peter's "Thalaivar is an immortal God" crap.
"1) To save the 1,000 wounded cadres and 25,000 wounded civilians."
Taking cyanide would have saved the civilians anyway, since with all of the Tigers dead there would be no need for further hostilities. The wounded cadres more than anyone else should have taken cyanide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbstRgPft-0
I know this is an old video, but still leaves me speechless and with a tear in my eye.
With the whole capture theory... i beleive it. Initial photos showed vp even without a bulletproof vest. Would you venture out to 50,000 sinhala soldiers without even wearing a bulletproof vest? I don't think so... As much as I feel for the movement, I can't help but feel disappointed. I know this may make a few internet moddayas happy, but I am disappointed in the leadership for even wanting to surrender... :(
Whether vp is dead or not, it's really pointless atm. the struggle has changed dimension and we must adapt to that. We have to esnure that Eelam is one day acheived. We must carry on the movement... the responsibility relies on our shoulders more now than ever before....
[weren't the Tigers supposed to suck cyanide instead of surrendering ]
The reason could be that the TOP level GOSL must have convinced them to surrender like Karuna.
As per Badri quote, it is clear that Nadesan was talking to top level Foreign Minister of GOSL.
So to save the civilians & for negotiations for Political settlement Tiger top level team might have surrendered only to be fucked up.
It is a COLLECTIVE failure of top brass of tigers.
wait for kp to clear everything up. to disprove shit lankan govt. claims, vp would need to make a video announcement disproving all this. at this point it would be very risky for his staff to upload this electronically, coz it could be traced - even if its via satellite internet, which pulithevan used. therefore this would have to be done by someone physically taking the video/video file and hand delivering through multiple anonymous human couriers to somewhere outside shit lanka. this would at the least take a week or more.
Upul,
I dont know whether to laugh or cry at ur comments.
Why dont u wait till Maaveerar day 2009 for Prabha to come up ?
Let us try to liberate eelam Politically but whether eelam tamils in srilanka have the same resolve or not, i am not sure.
people the first rule of offensive propaganda is FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). Remember a lot of interested parties are working overtime to break up the eelam project.
rule number 1) can you trust the source that puts out all this stuff about VP and tiger leadership ?
rule number 2) can you verify stuff from existing reliable sources.
people are having a field day with sickening conspiracy theories. it will only make yourself feel down.
Further speculations. It is possible Charles Anthony was in the first batch of surrenders with Nadesan, and with that they could blackmail Prabhakaran to surrender. Also it appears they were given guarantees from the Sri Lankan foreign minister as well as ICRC that they would be safe and negotiations would be done for Tamil problem.
It was all a lie obviously. But just getting into a situation where you have to surrender is a huge failure of the leadership, and I feel it would only be possible if someone tricked them to stay in the war zone with false assurances.
Even if we say they surrendered to save the 1,000 injured cadres, that isn't an acceptable answer. You do not need top level leaders to remain in the war zone and surrender in order to look after 1,000 injured cadre. Lower level cadre can do that. Their fate will be the same whether or not the leaders remained there, so the leaders should have escaped long before, if their plan was not to die. There was no reason for basically the entire LTTE leadership to stay behind.
Still bodies of Soosai and Poddu Amman not displayed, but both declared found.
veeran,
I have only said this to people going back and forth with this rumour and that rumout.
regardless the eelam project is independent of vp.
Upul,
rule no 1)
Did u not trust the loss of Kilinochi from the same source ? after all tamilnet never said Kilinochi fell to SLA.
rule no 2 )
can u TRUST the RELIABLE tamilnet site which did not mention theepan death but only abt Traitor Ilanthirayan death ?
Veeran, the tamil pretender:
You have blown your cover.
Upul,
Ungalukku ennoda character assasinate pannanuma pannunga...
Ennakku kavalai illai...
Aanal naan pachai tamilan.
விடுதலைப் புலிகளின் மூத்த தளபதிகள் அனைவரும் கொல்லப்பட்டதாக கூறும் இலங்கை அரசாங்கம் அவர்களின் சடலங்களை அடையாளம் கண்டதாக தகவல்களை வெளியிட்டு வருகின்றது.
விடுதலைப் புலிகளின் தலைவர் வேலுப்பிள்ளை பிரபாகரன் கொல்லப்பட்டதாக வெளியிடப்பட்டுள்ள அவரது உருவத்தை பிரதிபலிக்கும் சடலத்தை பார்வையிட்ட தமிழ் மக்கள், புலம்பெயர்ந்தவர்கள், இந்தியாவின் தமிழக மக்கள் பெருளவில் அதிர்ந்து போயுள்ளனர்.
இந்த நிலையைச் சாதகமாகப் பயன்படுத்த தீர்மானித்துள்ள இலங்கையின் ஜனாதிபதி மஹிந்த ராஜபக்ஸ தலமையிலான அணியினர் அதன் பின்னால் நடைபெற்ற நடை பெற்றுக் கொண்டிருக்கிற பாரிய மனிதப் படு கொலையை இனப் படுகொலையை மூடி மறைக்க முற்படுவதாக கரைமுள்ளி வாய்க்கால் பகுதியில் இருந்து வெளியேறிய ஒருவர் அவலக் குரல் எழுப்பியுள்ளதாக எமது விசேட செய்தியாளர் தெரிவிக்கிறார்.
கடந்த 72 மணி நேரத்தில் பல ஆயிரக்கணக்கான மக்களை படையினர் சுட்டுக் கொன்றுள்ளதாக அவர் தன்னிடம் கூறியதாக அதிர்ச்சித் தகவலை வெளியிட்டுள்ளார்.
படையினரிடம் சரணடைய முற்பட்ட பெண்கள் குழந்தைகள் என்ற வித்தியாசம் இல்லாமல் பலர் சுட்டுக் கொல்லப்பட்டு உள்ளதாகவும் பல பெண்கள் இளம் யுவதிகள் இளைஞர்கள் யுத்தம் இடம் பெற்ற பிரதேசங்களிலேயே தடுத்து வைக்கப்பட்டு உள்ளதாகவும் அவர் கவலை வெளியிட்டுள்ளார்.
காயம் அடைந்த பலர் கவனிப்பார் இன்றி மரணித்துக் கொண்டு இருப்பதாகவும் தெரிவித்துள்ள அந்த பாதிக்கப்பட்ட பிரதேச வாசி தனது குடும்ப உறுப்பினர்கள் பலரது நிலை என்ன என்பது பற்றி தனக்குத் தெரியாது எனவும் கூறியுள்ளார்.
விடுதலைப் புலிகளின் தலைவர் உள்ளிட்ட மூத்த தளபதிகளின் கொலைபற்றிய தகவல்களுக்குள் சர்வதேசம் முடங்கிக் கிடப்பதாகவும் இந்த மக்களின் அவலங்களில் இருந்து அவர்களை மீட்பதற்கு அனைத்து தரப்பினரும் முயல வேண்டும் என்ற கோரிக்கையை ஊடகங்களுக்கு தெரியப்படுத்துமாறும் அவர் தமிழ்ச் செய்தியாளரிடம் தளதளத்த குரலில் வேண்டியுள்ளார்.
சற்று முன்னர் எமக்கு கிடைத்த இந்த தகவலில் பிரபாகரனின் சடலத்தை அடையாளம் காணச் சென்ற கருணா என்ற அமைச்சர் முரளீதரன் அல்லது அவருடன் கூடச் சென்றவர்கள், மற்றும் கொழும்பில் நிலை கொண்டுள்ள ஏனைய தமிழ்க் கட்சிகளின் தலமைகள் கடந்த 72 மணி நேரத்துள் மிகப்பெரிய அவலத்தைச் சந்தித்துள்ள தற்போதும் அவலத்தில் சிக்கியுள்ள இந்த மக்கள் குறித்து இதுவரை அரசாங்கத்திற்கான அழுத்தங்களை கொடுக்காமை வருந்தத்தக்கது எனவும் அவர் குறிப்பிட்டுள்ளார்.
Not meaning to offend anyone, but Kilinochi will never fall, its a pipe dream of Mahinda's. Tamilnet has not been 100% honest and clear about the situation, so right now the evidence points to all leaders being dead.
If Tamilnet wants to clear something up, I'm still waiting for them to clear up Ananthapuram. Tell us what happened there first. 15 military leaders apparently died there, but not a single word from Tamilnet. You may say it was all government propaganda, but I have come to admit it was true. If they won't clear that up after 2 months, then I don't see what's the point of waiting for them before I accept the truth.
The Tamil heroes have fought valiantly and lost this battle. We were out manned 20 to 1, and out gunned with 5 countries supplying weapons to Sri Lanka. The new helicopters and airplanes were the key. Our anti aircraft missiles were old generation and couldn't intercept them. Their massive amounts of artillery guns allowed them to rain bombs on our people before the battles even began. It was an unfair battle, but our people sacrificed everything and fought bravely to the death. I would like their sacrifices to at least be acknowledged in places like Tamilnet.
Badri.
"I don't want to be negative at this time, but it is a fact that certain leaders have been misleading the diaspora and the Tamils about the war status for a while. Such things as the number of LTTE cadres killed - it must be at least 30,000, not the 4,000 they have claimed. The fact that the Sri Lankan army is decimated and destroyed, and its just another few days before we over run them and liberate the Vanni."
Oh im sorry but wasn't it YOU who said the SL army's reserves are about to run out and then the tigers will launch operation kiss of death and whack SLA out of Wanni?
It wasn't only the tiger leadership and tamilnet that mislead you, it was your own ignorance and denial that made this scenario more humiliating.
And your leaders were too pussy to swallow cyanide. Just admit it. Initially they may have had fought for the people but as of late, they've only been saving themselves at the expense of civilians and low level cadres.
You folks have been taken for a ride in the past 10+ years. Come to your senses and help rebuild sri lanka as after all we are all sri lankans no matter what the race is.
My point is Prabhakaran is 54 years old and he should have a grey moustache but we see clearly in the latest picture that there is no grey moustache of him. In early 80's Anita Pratab interviewed Prabhakaran and asked for the shaved Moustache, Prabhakaran replied her that I am ageing and that's what I keep shaving Moustache. It's a misery and I still get confused. Only god knows the truth.
Assume all LTTE leaders surrendered.
Assume 90% are dead and remainder are held captive by SLA.
Assume all LTTE cadres are dead.
Now, what difference does that make?
Assume LTTE no longer exists.
Do the needy to find a 'solution' for the Tamils in whatever way you feel fit.
This is the opportunity for those who did not agree with VP and LTTE to prove themselves. KP has called on all Tamil parties to try their best.
There have been no acts of "terrorism" since GoSL broke the news. There are no one to blame now; no LTTE, no VP and no "terrorism".
If a 'solution' is found by next Heroes' Day, there will never be an LTTE.
Faithful should remain so. Don't get angry. Let's allow everyone a chance to try their hands at implementation.
Upul, isn't that you were adamant Theepan wasn't killed in Anandhapura after looking into his picture, according to you, the face on the body wasn't chubby looks compared to original one etc?
We do not want you to hold onto these conspiracy theories but you should prove us your stand why these images are fake.
We are fighting for the lives of ordinary Eelam tamil who are caught up in Srilanka.
Now that we have lost Militarily, we have to fight it out in other ways atleast for a merger of east & north to be ruled by a tamil.
Our energy shld be focussed more on this .
Dear Badri,veeran,TN thamizh...
The therories you are posting are valid. But the way peter & TN thamizh says it cannot be also has got valid points.
It might not have been necessary to take cyanide during that time.
Even if they have surrendered, they would have done for so many reasons like,
1. To save the civilians
2. Hoping for further negotiations (no one is alive to negotiate)
3. Families were with them
But one thing we have to keep in mind. They fought for the freedom of tamils. If they have surrrendered and then got killed, the sinhalese had deceived us. That should give more anger on the single cells and not on the Tamil leaders who surrendered for the life of the 25000 civilians.
They also would have known that they would get killed by surrendering(atleast 50%). Still they have gone for that option. Ground realities would have forced them to do that. Or that would have been the best option as far as they were thinking during that time.
More over, please see the recently released photos. The head of VP is not covered.
In the first set of pictures released yesterday, they have covered his ears and head. In fact in the video, go to time 1.51 to 1.58, you can see there was no ear at all. But the ear is at 5.05 - it is not the ear of VP. More over he has double chin which was not there in the yesterdays video. It was clean and he was with the Uniform etc....
But in today's photos yes it seems the ear is of VP and the entire structure of the face is VP. And the body has not got clean shave.
But today, he is stripped off clothes etc.
May be yesterday they tried to do some idiotic things by doing some mask. But by yesterday night they could have found the body of VP some where in the logoon. I think by around 1.30 pm SL time they started announcing this - during that time i was talking to one of my friend in colombo and he said just hold for a moment - they are showing VP's body on the TV.
But by midnight they came with different body altogether. DNA test required atleast 2 days to confirm. not in 3 to 5 hours.
May be the Army would have released some stupid masked photos but was on continious search for the body.
They could have found the body by the evening and could have taken Karuna to the spot to identify the body. Then they have uploaded the photos at the site by midnight. But Karuna's face shows - its inevitable.
So the leaders would not have surrendered but would have got injured or dead in the battle. Probably Pottu would have got injured and gone to unconcious state and would have got captured alive.
I think the entire Ogre posting on DW is to fool the tamils and make us to think that VP has surrendered so that we start feeling low. Thats why he was acting as if he has leaked some news which is a top secret one and trying to cover it up. Otherwise they would not have come with different stories.
Mahinda's coming to the country on Saturday - 16th may be due to the fact that CA, Nadesan, Pulidevan have got surrendered and not for VP as KP has not called for silencing the guns upto Sunday.
But if VP is dead, its a death of a soldier and not a coward. Even if he has surrendered and shot it is the death of a warrior.
He took the arm for the dignity of the TAMILS and not for himself. He fought with somany countries simultaneously and kept the bigger nations on their feet for 25 long years.
He had been killed at least 4 times before, only to come back very strongly.
His death should be the inspiration to all the Tamils and if he had been shot after surrendering, then it should give us more anger towards the deceivers and we need to do waht ever possible in the future.
This is my view as a common tamil.
I just wish, if there was going to be a surrender, it should have been in January before everyone was killed.
"Wait for any official statement from LTTE leaders about this incident."
There is only one problem with that - in this case it's the leaders who are killed.
Bhairav,
Three possibilities:
1. VP is safe in an undisclosed location.
2. VP surrendered, was tortured and killed.
3. VP was killed in battle.
What difference does any of the above three permutations make to you?
For all those speculating on VP's status and last hours, assume the worst.
But don't forget, harping on about it will not make an iota of differnce to the status-quo.
Instead,
1. Do all you can to bring to justice the Sri Lankan regime that ordered and carried out the killing of seriously injured and long-term disabled people.
2. Try to find out what happened to the last 30, 000 civilians whom SLA still hasn't declared captured or "rescued".
3. Now that "conflict is over", demand that independent personal from media, aid agencies and UN be given unrestricted access to the Tamil civilian population.
[ just wish, if there was going to be a surrender, it should have been in January before everyone was killed ]
When Kilinochi was lost even in the face of putting in heavy defences by tigers, they should have decided.
Now it is too late to talk abt spilled milk.
World must be pressurised by us for a Decent Political Soln to govern tamils destiny themselves.
What peter says is sensible.
More over, always, IC has said that LTTE and VP are the blocks for any political solution.
Now VP is either killed or not going to surface for another 6 months - there should be good progress towards the political solution.
If a accepatable solution is tabled and VP comes back after 6 months, people would say "Thank yuo VP - but your struggle is not required, stay calm"/. Else people would take arms again with VP (in case he comes back) or under a new leader.
Please remember VPs interview with Anita pratap.
"Even if I am dead, i will create a organisation which will take the struggle forward for the next 40 years if needed"
[1. Do all you can to bring to justice the Sri Lankan regime that ordered and carried out the killing of seriously injured and long-term disabled people.
2. Try to find out what happened to the last 30, 000 civilians whom SLA still hasn't declared captured or "rescued".
3. Now that "conflict is over", demand that independent personal from media, aid agencies and UN be given unrestricted access to the Tamil civilian population.]
Just as another Tamil, I feel saddened by the events unfolding lately. By the time UN aid workers are there, they would have mopped up their war crime evidences from the ground.
Apologies if I've come across as rude in last few comments. I understand people's frustrations, but I think most recent comments have been needless.
If leadership made mistakes, surrendered and died, then going on about it makes no difference as those who made the mistakes are not around any longer.
If leadership is alive and well, most of the comments here would be void anyway.
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Therefore, it is essential that we concentrate on the civilian issue.
How many times have we come across Western states naming VP as stumbling block who would not settle for maximum devolution?
Now that VP is "dead", demand for that devolution they promised.
How many times have the "conflict" been used as an excuse to limit independent access to Tamil areas? Any one remembers post-tsunami?
Now that the "conflict is over" demand that independent personal be given unrestricted access to the Tamil region.
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More than 300, 000 people are detained in internment camps to avoid LTTE "regrouping".
LTTE can't survive without VP they say. All LTTE leaders are "dead"; who can "foot soldiers" regroup around? Given LTTE is "wiped out" is the detention of so many thousands justified?
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Vivek has made a very sensible comment. Apparent demise of LTTE and VP, offers everyone an opportunity to put IC's promises to the test. Should IC fail us, VP will return (or for those who believe he is dead, a new VP will be made).
I think it is important to keep the protests going to show that it was for the civilians and not just to save the LTTE leadership. The sinhalese have always charged that the protests were not actually about the civilians. Now the IC has no excuse to pressure Sri Lanka to help the civilians.
Did they really need to kill Nadesan's wife? Everything that they do is just despicable. We are all helpless to watch.
Tamilnet has not properly highlighted the 1,000 injured LTTE cadres that were rumored to have been killed (not sure if it was confirmed by Tamilnet or not). Newspapers have not even reported it. That is a much more important headline, than saying 2 LTTE leaders were killed as they surrendered. Both are terrible, but 1,000 compared to 2.
I just rechecked the Tamilnet postings, except Soosai's original statement, there is not even a mention of the 25,000 injured civilians that are supposed to be in the war zone. Not sure what to make of it. Did they disappear and then Tamilnet decide not to report it and instead report 2 leaders were murdered? If the stories are true, they need to highlight the 25,000 civilians and 1,000 wounded cadres.
Editor: "Badrinath" said...
I just wish, if there was going to be a surrender, it should have been in January before everyone was killed.
I feel exactly the same and to be honest this has sapped the energy out of a lot of tamil people. But it is vital that the protests continue. As mentioned earlier, the fact that the LTTE no longer exists militarily, gives the West no excuse at all to step in. We must push for war crimes to be investigated, as well as unrestricted aid and media. How useful the latter will be remains to be seen, as GoSL will clean everything up before they grant them entry. I still feel that we should push forward with a referendum for a separate state. I know it seems unfeasible, but we must push for it. Does anyone know how the referndum in East Timor came about?
Again, I'm not sure how useful this will be because colonisation is already gearing up. They want to destroy the idea of a Tamil homeland and the only way to erase that ideology is by colonisation...
East Timor became a Portuguese colony in the 16th century, while much of the rest of the region was controlled by the Dutch, and known as the Dutch East Indies. The former Dutch colony emerged as the independent Republic of Indonesia in the 1950s, while East Timor remained under Portuguese control until 1975. While 90% of Indonesians are Muslim, the East Timorese are primarily Roman Catholic, a result of Portugese influence.
Read East Timor's Country Profile
East Timor was annexed by Indonesia after the Portuguese withdrawal, and its people began an independence movement almost immediately. East Timor's struggle for independence was brutally repressed by Indonesian military forces for over 25 years. More than 200,000 Timorese are reported to have died from famine, disease, and fighting since the annexation.
International Attention on East Timor
The most publicized of Indonesia's conflicts, East Timor has received international attention because of the many reports of human rights abuses. In 1996 two East Timorese activists, Bishop Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo and José Ramos-Horta, received the Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts to bring about a peaceful resolution to East Timor's situation.
Another internationally known rebel leader, José Alexandre Gusmão, was recently released from an Indonesian prison. He was elected the first president of East Timor in April 2002.
The Independence Referendum
East Timor President José Alexandre “Xanana” Gusmão
In Feb. 1999, Suharto's successor, President B. J. Habibie, unexpectedly announced that he was willing to hold a referendum on East Timorese independence. Though many Timorese had long hoped for this news, the sudden Indonesian about-face exacerbated fighting between separatist guerrillas and the paramilitary forces, who are against Indonesia's withdrawal.
Twice rescheduled because of violence, a U.N.-organized referendum to decide whether East Timor would secede from Indonesia took place on Aug. 30, 1999. The East Timorese voted overwhelmingly for independence from Indonesia and when the results were announced, the region descended into a state of anarchy:
veeran, I am sorry I mistook you for someone else.
I also strongly believe whatever happened happened, I am not sure whether there are witnesses or not. The technology exists to fake someones face. Thats an undisputed fact. Shit Lanka has the power and resources to buy that service - it is desperately trying to quash all these protests, because it needs that IMF loan.
Tamil Eelam struggle is not about VP or his family. Our focus needs to continue with the protest, I strongly believe the vp pictures are all psyops to collapse the tamil opinion here.
we need to work overtime to show our struggle is about free tamil eelam. if we stop now it will just look like this was just about ltte.
I feel that first of all things need to be kept clear here. Prabha is still alive. He was probaily never in the war zone in the last few days. Senior LTTE leaders were also not around. Its people like Nadesan, pulidevan who were left behind.
Why? simple. They are in the civil division and leadership is required for the last cadres. Its not good for cadres to see that their leaders have left. Charles Anthony is not mentioned anywhere in tamilnet that he was killed. Yet I see that repeated here.
Even if charles anthony is killed or left behind its simple. Prabha wants his men to take a last stand yet he is not there. Hence he leaves his son who is supposedly in the civil division for this. At least his son is seen around, the cadres would not dispair.
Many people are desperate to know what happen to commanders like deepan. Whathever happen and however is left will not be revealed. Simply because should another fight occur, the "dead" people will lead it.
The only reason nadesan and pulidevan wanted to surrender is to save the cadres who were badly injured as well as their family members. Sri Lankan army knew the remants were Pro tiger and would not hestitate.
The problem here with both the Sri Lankan and eelam blog posters is that most of you have not served in an armed forces before. Thats the reason why you speculate many things.
Most of the leadership would have anticipted things to come when kilinocchi fell. Unless one is stupid to think that when Mahindha censors the military deaths that he would care whether another 10000 died.
Its simple and I have stated this before. Its LTTE's time to wait. The BJP outcome in India would have left the leaders to return and fight as they would have expected support and pressure from India.
When my dad was in the cadets he went camping with the gurkhas. One father and son team was there. The father a sergaent and the son a leiutant. The father saluted the son. My father asked why and he said it the army my son is my superior and at my home I am.
This applies to charles. If he was not a capable military commander, then prabha must have transfered him to the civil side. Secondly charles who never have been choosen to suceed the organistation. This will cause division in the organisation.
I do not whether why the father prabha is not balding yet gentically linked son is. If it is really prabha, now that charles scarificed himself to the organisation he is a matyr.
Or like his family they will not be in Eelam or Sri Lanka. I mean if soosai's family can try to escape, do you think prabha's would not have gone first.
I do not know how some of you think. You mix flim romance of wars with reality. Douglas Mac Arhtur left the philipines only to promise to return which he did. Likewise charles de gaulle. Does anyone look at them as cowards for not dying at the last stand.
Of all the people the least likely to be killed would be pottu amman. I mean the mastermind of so many assinations yet he had no inteligence on what was happening.
Now the situation will continue to get worst in sri lanka once the euphoria dies down and reality strikes. The LTTE on the other hand will start rebuilding the organisation.
Someone mentioned no sucide bombings etc. Well simple because now the advatage is tamils. Apparently no more terrorist but victims like in 1983. Hence build on the sympathy and they will clamour their self governing state.
The Sri Lankan racist will prevent this at all cost. Give 6 months and the maverar day speech to come out. Its just like the east. Slowly infiltrate build from there and do gurellia attacks.
Thanks vivek. Seems it came about because the President had a change of heart? Unlikely to happen with Mahinda or any subsequent Sri Lankan Presidents. What we all need to do is pull together and see what we can do now.
All of them surrendered and died like cowards, without eating cyanide?
A psychology lesson for you guys
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The following phases describes the human behavior in an event of a death of a loved one. Our diaspora goons (including tamilnut) are currently in the second phase (denial phase). The third phase is more dangerous. Let's wait until the complete all the phases.
* The first phase is shock. Similar to learning of a terminal illness, the first reaction of a person who is told that a loved one has died is, "No." A feeling of numbness sets in. Some people simply say that life seems unreal.
* The second phase is denial. We are a death denying society. Even our language tends to deny the reality of death by using terms such as "passed away" instead of the word "dead." We want to deny that death has taken place. In the denial phase, people hope that it isn't true. They may feel like this is just a bad dream and when they wake up, every thing will be all right. However, healing from grief can not take place until the person is past this step and has accepted the reality of death.
* The third phase is anger. Once our minds accept the fact that death has indeed taken place, anger usually erupts. Again, this anger may be directed at God (which for a religious person results in a feeling of guilt for feeling that way about the Almighty) or it may be directed to doctors, medicine in general, another family member or even directed inwards ("If only I had"). Again, guilt enters. Anger may also be directed at the world in general. "How can everyone just go about their business when such a tragedy has just happened?"
* The fourth phase is mourning. This is usually the longest lasting phase. It can last for months or years. It may be characterized by feelings of depression, continued guilt, physical illness, loneliness, panic, and periods of crying triggered for no apparent reason.
* The fifth phase is recovery. Some would not call this phase recovery, because it can be said that one never "recovers" from a death. Death changes our lives forever. Things will never be "right" again. Although the pain of death will diminish in time, it never goes away. We will always long for a person we truly loved. But at some point, we usually find ourselves re-establishing our lives and moving on. That is seen in this phase.
Even Col R Hariharan raises doubt on the abulance story and the fact if they were travelling together. He blames battle conditions. Now you know why the IPKF lost when their inteligence man is so stupid. Defence.lk says they found soosai's body and comming up shortly.
Again if you were killed in a van. you should all appear together. The SLA is the one which is stuck in its own spin.
Many people forget prabha has the secrets on all the killings done on political leadership and also the Sri Lankan and Indian collabrators. You mean he is going down without threatening to reveal them.
If you assume thats why they were killed, wrong again. People like KP would have the information and use them to discredit mahindha and congress. What if he sells them for money. Wrong again because he will be dead before that. All boils to the fact that since nothing is revealed is why prabha is alive.
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/notes6/note518.html
This will be my last post on this blog.
Badrinath, navindran, m.g.k and Peter,
I must admit I am amazed with the tenacity of yours to keep denying things.
I think now the time has come for your guys to accept what has happened. Your international guy ‘KP’ has taken you guys for a ride and, by the looks of it, he will continue to do so for years to come.
It however, appears, from reading some comments, Peter and Badri have come to some senses to some extent. But I don’t see others have come to that level yet.
The Eelam struggle has failed miserably. Tamils have lost two generations and it is time to draw a line in the sand and move on.
Tamils have much to offer to Sri Lanka and Sri Lanka will welcome that. Some Tamils may never do that and it is up to them. Equal opportunities don’t mean more - It means nothing more, nothing less.
It is up to peace loving Tamils now to move on. Sinhalese will accept them from both arms. Time to be united and promote one and only identity which maters “:Sri Lankan” identity within a united Sri Lanka.
Dear Nutty Navindran,
Badri's posts today had put me in a somber mood, but you quickly pulled me out of it!
"They are in the civil division and leadership is required for the last cadres. Its not good for cadres to see that their leaders have left. Charles Anthony is not mentioned anywhere in tamilnet that he was killed."
Contrary to what you think, the overweight poruppalars do not lead the fighting cadres. The LTTE is (sorry, was) an organization where the military wing was dominant and the political wing subordinate. Nadesan, Pulithevan, and Chubby Charles were nobodies compared to commanders like Theepan and Sornam.
"The problem here with both the Sri Lankan and eelam blog posters is that most of you have not served in an armed forces before. Thats the reason why you speculate many things."
The Eelamoids should be extremely grateful to hear your insights as an experienced combat veteran.
So what is your military experience???
"When my dad was in the cadets he went camping with the gurkhas."
LMAO!!! Thanks for the answer!
Vivek,
"The East Timorese voted overwhelmingly for independence from Indonesia and when the results were announced, the region descended into a state of anarchy:"
Thank you for giving the best evidence why SL should avoid what happened with Indonesia.
Badri,
"Did they really need to kill Nadesan's wife?"
If they didn't, then people like you would claim that Sinhala Tigers are spared while only Tamils are killed.
"I just rechecked the Tamilnet postings, except Soosai's original statement, there is not even a mention of the 25,000 injured civilians that are supposed to be in the war zone. Not sure what to make of it. Did they disappear and then Tamilnet decide not to report it and instead report 2 leaders were murdered? If the stories are true, they need to highlight the 25,000 civilians and 1,000 wounded cadres."
You raise a very good question- why is Tamilnet more interested in 2 dead LTTE leaders than thousands of Tamils???
Can anyone answer that?
"For all those speculating on VP's status and last hours, assume the worst."
Wow!
Quite a far cry from Peter's tortured meanderings why Thalaivar is still alive.
Has somebody dumped a bucket of cold water over Puthu Pete's head?
"2. Try to find out what happened to the last 30, 000 civilians whom SLA still hasn't declared captured or "rescued"."
I totally agree with Peter- let's gloss over the fact that Kumaran Pathmanathan most probably lied to the world about Thalaivar's fate, and instead focus on the civilians whom we'd forgotten for the past few months when we were waving LTTE flags in London and Paris.
You raise a very good question- why is Tamilnet more interested in 2 dead LTTE leaders than thousands of Tamils???
Can anyone answer that?Because these 2 Tamils are more equal than thousands of Tamils, excuse my doublethinkspeak.
if VP found this fate then i doubt him as a leader, no mater what the circumstance is.
please do not make the GoSL to use this opportunity to hide the war crimes of innocent tamils.
please lower the VP profile and escalate the innocent tamils death for justice.
"Now VP is either killed or not going to surface for another 6 months - there should be good progress towards the political solution."
Things are not so simple.
Before we can even begin to address the "political solution," Tamil society is going to have to recover from the mess that the LTTE had put it in. For example, there are no independent Tamil leaders because the LTTE killed all of them. The only ones who have survived- Douglas and Karuna- had to adopt LTTE-like anti-democratic qualities.
If Puthu Pete thinks things will be solved in 6 months he might as well go back to blabbering about Iraqi-style insurgency. It took the Indian Constituent Assembly over 2 years to come up with a constitution- and this took place under relatively ideal circumstances- an Indian polity unified with the victory over the British, and no post-war reconstruction or shattered societies to fix.
Political solutions generally require time and patience. You also can't rely too much on confrontational activity- it worked against the British, because their country was thousands of miles away from S. Asia. The Sinhalese are not going anywhere, so you'll have to reconsider the failed approaches of the past (as will we).
Saul,
"Because these 2 Tamils are more equal than thousands of Tamils, excuse my doublethinkspeak."
I would actually welcome the conversion of Eelamoids into human beings who care about other humans. If they want to dump the LTTE and focus their efforts on securing the well-being of those in the welfare centers, then more power to them.
That would make me that much more grateful to the SLA/SLN/SLAF/police for wiping out the LTTE and giving the Tamil diaspora something more constructive to work on.
Peter said...
"VP isn't dead, that I am very sure about. SL can always show photo of the body which they sent for examination. I think we will get a video of him in another six weeks or so.
"VP is not an ordinary human to die surrounded by SLA. He fought two countries for 30 years, and survived. Anyone remembers July 1989 front-page obituary published in The Hindu? For more than 20 years RAW has been gunning for him. ***God can't die***."
May 18, 2009 8:33 PM"
Wow!!
Peter's emotional state certainly has been on a roller-coaster over the last 24 hours!
What will he say next??
God is Dead- Puthukkudiyiruppu Peter
Badri,
If VP was killed after surrender, SLA is sure that is VP. Why should SLA take Karuna and Thaya master to confirm again?
"Why should SLA take Karuna and Thaya master to confirm again?"
All part of the act that the SLA did not kill Thalaivar after he threw away his cyanide and begged for mercy. Karuna and Thaya Master may not have known that either, but it made for a great photo op.
I'm very intrigued with the theory here that Sun God had surrendered- confirmed our suspicions that he was a coward all along.
"Present need is to get a federal solution through peaceful method, *and then use the federal solution to get Eelam in the long run*."
Congratulations Badri, your post was copied on DW for everyone to see. Now not only will you not get Tamileelam, but you won't even get federalism as a consolation prize either.
Laptop - you got it right...
Not only that, why should they bring a clean shaved and look - like of VP first with uniforms etc and then they bring the other one with totally different structure.
Please remember, SL announced about VP body around 1.30 pm SL time and took Karuna to the place only by 4.30 pm. So, first was a gimmick and second was a doubt or reality.
[Not only that, why should they bring a clean shaved and look ]
Look closely!!
He has a beard of two to three days unshaved!!
You can't notice it cause the beard is white in color when it grows(he's 54 years old) and he keeps his mustache dyed in black, which was also done two to three days earlier!!
For all who think the chief retard is not dead,
WAIT AND SEE(TM)! till he brings you Peelam!!
dear follow blogers,
Please dont make IDPs life more miserable by posting your wisdom,
please do some think to save/improve IDPs life.
it not the time for VP faith or last minute of VP
[please do some think to save/improve IDPs life.
Exactly!!
http://www.nerudal.com/nerudal.6362.html
Badri..
I didnt see Laurance name in the list. He is one who escaped from the Ananthapuram battle. He has been net killed by SLA many times. What do u think?
On the idea of reconciliation. I do nhot think rajpooka is not on the right track.
1) He start already talking about a solution based on Buddhist principles.
2) He has rejected UN help to sort the civilian catastrophe
3) complete denial of basic truth about Tamils struggle for freedom and equity
4) complete denial of atrocities committed against Tamils.
If people have to move forward the political solution must come first at least in formal written agreement with UN acceptance and then reconciliation can only begin if sri lankan government is willing to face the people over the killings they done.
Karuna Amman as well have face the 500 police family he murdered.
Also any agreements made by internlay can not be trusted by tamils since they did that sort of thing before only break it up.
Vivek,
Your link makes sense. It's really hard to go either way. Only time can answer these mysteries.
[I didnt see Laurance name in the list.]
Ohhh!! That must mean he is alive!! That also means Peelam is soooo close!!
And we should give a damn because???
[Your link makes sense.]
And 'VP still alive!' makes none!!
:-)))
The SL government knows they can easily fool racist sinhala south. The SL seems to be very creative on how VP was killed there times with there different ways ( Killed inside the bunker, Blown up inside the ambulance , then found dead in lagoon ). This is hilarious and sounds kill a good bollywood movie.
The SL might have won the battle with LTTE but war is not yet won. The Tamil needs to work harder than ever before to achieve the free land for the Tamils.
Badri, I have second thoughts about VP's death now. I saw his head was moving in free motion from the "makkal TV's analysis" when the guy tried to tilt his head into sideways. We're all fooled by GoSL's propaganda. Oh man, I'm much relieved now.
Lets fight for the war crimes GoSL inflicted against innocent Tamils in Wanni.
[The SL seems to be very creative on how VP was killed there times with there different ways ( Killed inside the bunker, Blown up inside the ambulance , then found dead in lagoon ). ]
Yeah! The fat pig must have died many a times in his head over the past 2-3 years!! Serves the bastard right!!
[The SL might have won the battle with LTTE but war is not yet won.]
WAIT AND SEE(TM)!! as always!!
[The Tamil needs to work harder than ever before to achieve the free land for the Tamils.]
Yeah! Drop your toilet brushes! Do the donkey dance in white man s streets! Then take a can of gasoline and a lighter to finish your sorry selves!!
LMAO :-D :-D :-D
[This is hilarious and sounds kill a good bollywood movie.]
You dumb faggots are hilarious alright!! The Peelamists are a race of sad clowns!!
LMAO :-D
We need continue with the demonstration in the west. We need work with the IC to charge the MR&GR and SF for war cimes. These three racist needs to be punished for the crimes. This should be the uttermost important duty for every single Tamil.
I hope all the Tamils in the west are talking to the MPs / Senators to make this happens. we should never let the GR , MR and SF get away with this crime.
[Badri, I have second thoughts about VP's death now. ]
Bhairav,
Who the heck cares what you, a retarded terrorist supporting janitor, thinks???
:-DDD
["makkal TV's analysis"]
Aaaah! 374% TRUTH(R) is given in these ultra smart Kazuthai TV stations!!
May the rotting carcass of Thalaivar bless the mighty intelligent street-poopers of 'Mongal TV'!!!
LMAO
Gayan, cool down , you seems to get upset on hearing the truth. I don't blame the racist sinhala , they don't have access to free media , so have belive what ever the SL says
[We need continue with the demonstration in the west.]
Yeah!! You should!! Specially since stinking up western streets have done wonders in the past for you toilet scrubbing retards!!]
[This should be the uttermost important duty for every single Tamil.]
The uttermost duty of refugee Tamules is to keep the toilets and shoes of their white masters in west squeaky and sparkly clean!!
:-))) :-)))
Nedumaran and Vaiko have once again strongly denied that Prabhakaran has been killed. (Makkal TV).
Nedumaran gave a long interview in 'Zee TV Tamil' yesterday:
- Prabhakaran is alive. I am saying this with all certainity.
- Visuals shown are fake.
- No reason for the LTTE or for us to deny if he had been really killed.
- The face in the visual looks much younger.
- Army had announced that DNA tests were conducted. Facilities for that test is not available in srilanka and it takes a minimum of 10 days to get the results.
- KP had spoken once again and confirmed that it is fake.
- LTTE has many divisions. After the loss of Killinochi they were disbursed into small groups through out north and east.
- Decision to switch over to guerilla warfare was taken after Killinochi war.
- Most of their arms and ammunitions have also been shifted accordingly.
- (Karunanidhi also told the reporters that he cannot make any comment on Prabhakaran's death as it has not been confirmed)
- (Tag looks fresh and the ID card reads as 'Thiruvengadam'?)
- (And the neck rotates so easily which is not possible in a dead body).
[Gayan, cool down , you seems to get upset on hearing the truth.]
Who?? Me??
I'm over the moon these days man!!
Sri Lankans are partying like 1969 over in SL and all over the world!!
We are lighting crackers, waving flags, dancing in streets and many more great new ways of celebrating are to be seen!! Even Tamils in south joined us in the celebrations!! You should come and join the party!!
Jayawewa!!!!
The MR , GR and SF have betrayed the racist south. I pity on the racist south, they are celebrating the victory but they are not aware what is coming in couple of months
[we should never let the GR , MR and SF get away with this crime.]
Even if they escape from IC's punishment, they won't escape from us. It's matter of time before where/when/how they would be given their gifts.
Its sad to see treachery.
KP and Pottu did it for the money.
First Karuna now these two.
I guess the Thambi traded ahead of the curve.
The bubble bursts.
Where the money came from...
Treachery treachery
Who says that Sri Lanka does not have the facilities to match DNA?
http://www.genetechlanka.org/index.html
Also someone said that samples were sent to India for testing where they have Velu's perantal DNA to match.
While doing the demonstration, we should also be talking to senators/mp. Talking to the MP/Senators in person has more impact than mass demonstration. I found that senators are very keen to meet the voters from his/her constitution. It helps a great deal when pictures and statements of HRW and UN are shown to the senators.
It surprised me how little these senators know about the war crime committed by the SL and they are very keen on hearing more when they show UN.HRW and pictures of conflict zone , dead bodies seen in the conflict zone.
Shaun,
Also inform the senators about the ways of extortion that you people conducted for collecting money for the ltte. They'll be happy to hear about welfare-scams, credit-card frauds and drug trafficking experience of yours.
According to the SL, the LTTE is done and dusterd. The SL needs to remove the occuping SL forces from the tamil home land.
The senators wants to hear about the kidnapping , killing , rapping of innocent civilian by SL. Killing poor civilians in IDP camps without food and medicine.. Kicking out channel 4 journalist from SL and banning independent media.
Th SL lies can only fool the racist south, not the west nor the the tamils.
"According to the SL, the LTTE is done and dusterd. The SL needs to remove the occuping SL forces from the tamil home land."
I don't know that Sri Lankan security forces are occupying tamilnadu territories?
Ashok,
I saw those videos again today morning.
This is what the id card says:
முதலெழுத்துக்கு(Later portion is not visible as the person is holding the card)
திருவேங்கடம்(Its followed by something again not visible as the person is holding the card)
பெயர் : பிரபாகரன்
வேறு பெயர் : கரிகாலன்
You can check this http://www.army.lk/vgallery.php?galid=29 and pause the video at 00:38.
...and about neck rotating thats a joke - medics say the other way round.Ever wondered why in villages when old people die,their head is tied with a cloth running from top of head to below the chin - especially if the corpse is made sitting on a chair?
Now LTTE is gone ( According to the SL), no one support the LTTE. All the tamils only want is to remove the occuping SL force from Tamil Home land and stop mass kiling of civilian by the SL
Is this Prabhakaran? Are you really sure? By: S Suresh Kumar
Some reasons this body may not be Prabhakaran's
Is the Sri Lankan government playing a trick on the international community by showing a body double and claiming it to be Prabhakaran? Here are some questions observers are asking.
Why is he so good looking?
Not matching: The skin tone on the face and the ear aren't the same. His son (inset), also killed in the battle, looks older than him.
Prabhakaran is 54, but the picture shows him without a single wrinkle. His son Charles looks older in the picture the Lankan army has released. There's something dubious about the way his face is shown. If his skull were blown off, as claimed by the army, how come his face is so neat and untouched? If he were hiding and on the run, as claimed by the army, how come he looks fresh and clean-shaven? Have the soldiers put a Prabhakaran mask on someone's face?
Why isn't his ear matching his face?The skin tone of his ear is darker than the tone of his face. Have the soldiers hired a prosthetic expert to graft a face on to some corpse? Are they doing a Dasavatharam gag in real life? It looks like the mask is peeling off when the soldiers move the body.
How could they do a DNA test in two hours? Experts say it takes at least four days to do a DNA test. How could the army do it in two hours, that when they say they found the body in a remote jungle? How did they move his blood or bone marrow sample to a forensic lab so quickly? Did the army have an ante-mortem report (say, tissue or blood samples from before his death) against which they could corroborate their theory that it was Prabhakaran who was dead? Questions, questions…
Do Tamil politicians know something we don't?Nedumaran of Tamil Desiya Iyakkam said he knew for sure that Prabhakaran was alive. Tamil Nadu chief minister Karunanidhi said he wouldn't react to reports of Prabhakaran's death. What's stopping them from accepting the footage released by the Lankan army?
Wasn't cyanide Prabhakaran's preferred mode of exit? He gave capsules to all his Tigers so that they could kill themselves instantaneously when cornered. Why didn't he bite his cyanide capsule when he knew his game was up? Few believe he was shot in battle. Tamil lore has it that he always carried two capsules with him. The army claimed to have identified him with the help of rebel LTTE leaders Karuna and Daya Master, and posted a picture of the body on the country's army website. The body here and the body in the TV footage don't match.
(These questions were asked as of 3.30 am today. Lanka may come up with some explanations through the day, but many questions are likely to remain unanswered).
DNA in 2 hours? Just impossibleChandrashekhar G was a part of the forensic team assigned the Rajiv Gandhi assassination case. Now retired, he lives in Yelahanka. We asked him what he thought of the Lankan army claims about Prabhakaran, and he was incredulous they had done a DNA test within two hours. "It is impossible," he told MiD DAY. "We need at least four days to put it through a DNA sequencer and arrive at some conclusion."In his own words:
When I visited Sri Lanka some years ago, they had no lab to do DNA tests. I had several questions when I saw the footage. I wondered if a prosthetic expert had been at work to put a face on top of some other. Ante-mortem reports, or reports from before death, are always necessary to confirm identity.
Whenever a leader dies, they need to keep the body till the case is done. But governments are sometimes in a hurry to dispose of the body… like Pakistan did when Benazir was blown up. If they preserve the body, they can always get tissue samples for culture. I don't know if Lanka will keep this body and allow cross verification.
Hey donkey tamule shaun,
[Talking to the MP/Senators in person has more impact than mass demonstration.]
Perhaps having a private quality time with them as many Peelamist money grabbing street whores do in western countries would help!!!
[I found that senators are very keen to meet the voters from his/her constitution.]
Who doesn't like to meet their toilet scrubbers when their toilets get smelly and sh#%y!!
:-))
[Is this Prabhakaran? Are you really sure?]
Shivshankar Menon and Pranab Mukharjee are visiting SL in two days... You Peelamists can ask from them if it is true or not!!
Also, Ban Ki Mun is visiting Sri Lanka today to talk about the IDp situation in North. He'll also get to see the pig!!
So WAIT AND SEE(TM) losers!!
:-)))
I'm glad the Peelam bloggers are still here in Puligal.blog!! Most of the other Peelamic bloggers have left their blogs it seems!!
Wonder why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's really hard to find Peelamistani bloggers these days!!
:-)))
fcuk u guys there is nothing called tamil homeland....its always one flag one nation..if u cant take it that way leave it.there are zilllions who like it the way it is....pee lame is never to come not vt this bunch of gay clowns
See your Thalaivar in his wet and muddy Peelamic glory with his former buddy Hon. Minister Vinayaagamurthy Muralidaran standing beside him!!
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=0&mode=head
Hello!!
Peelamists!!!
Any1 there?????
Oh nooooo!!! They have left THIS blog toooo!!!
Probably self immolating, clogging traffic and jumping off bridges now!!!
How wonderful!!!!
Now where are we gonna find more clowns for some entertainment???
I know!! Let's all go to comedycentral!!
Or better yet, let's all go and read Tamilnut.com!!
Donkey Gayan is braying non stop.
As a Concerned Tamil, i am suggesting to the Tamil Diaspora all over the World.
Eelam tamils plight is now like arasanai nambi purusanai vitta kathai achu.
They have hitched onto the bandwagon of VP after ditching fatherland India.Now that VP is nomore, Stop demonstrating against India & its interests all over the world.
Make rapproachment with India which is the ONLY way tamils interests can be further addressed in Srilanka.
So Stop all demos against India & select a Democratic leader who is acceptable to India & tamils can give full support to him for merging North & east.
[Donkey Gayan is braying non stop.]
Let's see who is braying non-stop!!
http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=49466
http://www.tamilnet.tv/index.php/lies-statement?blog=1
Happy Peelam in streets losers!!
LMAO
[So Stop all demos against India & select a Democratic leader who is acceptable to India & tamils can give full support to him]
How about Mahinda Rajapaksha???
He is the best leader who took up the fight against terrorists and freed his country and people!!
[ for merging North & east]
ummmmm..... NO!!! In your face!! One country! One Flag!
Heheee!!
[Let's see who is braying non-stop!!
]
Go n See how many of the Maimed village boys are also braying non stop ...
MOnkey does not know the value of State .
Kurangu kaile poomalai pola...
[As a Concerned Tamil, i am suggesting to the Tamil Diaspora all over the World]
to go to your jobs and start scrubbing again!!
Pee-lame is a lost cause!!
[Go n See how many of the Maimed village boys are also braying non stop ...]
In IDP centers??? WOW!!
[MOnkey does not know the value of State .]
Yeah!! Peelam monkeys only know the value of toilets and kerosene!!
[Kurangu kaile poomalai pola...]
Pala ammata hukanna yanda... Aawa methana ratak illanda.. Dup yanda....HOOIYAAA!!
:-))))
[ummmmm..... NO!!! In your face!! One country! One Flag!
Heheee!!]
Tiger Flag is nomore as tigers are not there.
then why not allow tamils to have something that will allow them to develop their future ?
NE will be under Srilanka only ...
well, why is it not possible to track by all satellite calls taken at the last few hours by the LTTE leaders. that may tell you the whole story.
KP must be able to do that for sure.
//Veeran said,
They have hitched onto the bandwagon of VP after ditching fatherland India.Now that VP is nomore, Stop demonstrating against India & its interests all over the world//
Thanks,but No Thanks.You can continue your demonstrations against us and Pete has given so much - "Information" as likes to call his threats - we will wait for it eagerly like the much publicised counter attack.
Obviously it seems our new Home minister will have to start the screening from his Home itself considering how Vivek showed his true colors.
Forget Motherland \ Fatherland \ umbilical chord whatever
Indian,
Prabhakaran has chosen this elusive life as his choice for the past 36 years. He was never afraid of his life, so he would not have surrendered.
Capturing him was also not possible. As he was supposed to have holed up in small patch of land surrounded by thousands of troops, he would have expected the danger every moment. At the worst, he would have commited suicide.
Another possibility is that he would have been killed while fleeing. A leader who had planned meticulously so many wars and masterminded innumerable operations would not have remained inside NFZ till the end if that was his intention.
Even if he was killed, Tigers would not have left his body stranded. He had said many times that if anything goes wrong, his enemies should not get hold of even his ashes.
Finally, Prabhakaran is not the type who would give up so easily.
I stand by what Nedumaran had said.
[Obviously it seems our new Home minister will have to start the screening from his Home itself considering how Vivek showed his true colors ]
Mother can never disown her Children even if they have hurt the Mother with all their Foolishness.
Similarly the healing has to take place between Eelam tamils & India so that they can mutually be beneficial.
Eelam tamils must Come forward & i would suggest Senior TNA leaders like Sampanthan could lead in this aspect.
[[- Army had announced that DNA tests were conducted. Facilities for that test is not available in srilanka and it takes a minimum of 10 days to get the results.]]
lol. I'am laughing from my a***. My brother is working at DNA lab (molecular biology) lab of Ragama (Kelaniya university). There is another privet lab at Colombo called geantech. Both of them conducted the DNA test.
poor idiots.
[KP must be able to do that for sure.]
Yeah!! Of anyone with a d!%k can masturbate!!
You too can achieve Peelam if you have one!!
ROFLMAO!!
The most favorable story that can be recreated would be:
1) Nadesan, Pulidevan and Charles Anthony surrender to the Sri Lankan army to protect some injured LTTE cadres and are massacred
2) Prabhakaran, Soosai and Poddu Amman separately try to escape through the lagoon and are all shot. By coincidence the bullet is a direct hit on Prabhakaran's forehead. Soosai and Poddu Amman's bodies are never shown by the government for some reason. Prabhakaran decided not to wear any bullet proof vest during the escape, and freshly shaved the morning of the escape so that he looks like he does in the photos.
Sounds completely illogical, but could still be possible, and will likely be the official version accepted by Tamils.
According to you guys, VP is alive!!!
But, CA's DNA matches with the DNA dead body (supposed to be VP).
So, what is the conclusion?!!
VP is alive, but CA's father is no more!!!
[Even if he was killed, Tigers would not have left his body stranded. He had said many times that if anything goes wrong, his enemies should not get hold of even his ashes. ]
Forget abt VP. he is GONE for sure & no need to talk non stop abt his death.
Let us look at the Future of Tamils who are helpless & hopeless. Tamil Diaspora MUST make peace with India to salvage any tamil there.
If not, It is the end of Tamil race in Srilanka.
London, May 20 - ANI: The Sri Lankan Army has been reportedly accused of killing two senior LTTE leaders of the political wing, who were trapped in the war zone and wanted to surrender as per the Lankan Governments instructions.
In a flurry of emails, text messages and telephone calls that passed between NGOs, a Norwegian Government and Sri Lankan officials in Colombo, the two LTTE political leaders frantically inquired as to how they could give themselves up.
But the attempt to surrender by the head of the LTTEs political wing Balasingham Nadesan and Seevaratnam Pulidevan, who led the Tamil Tigers peace secretariat, failed, The Independent reports.
They were shot dead sometime between midnight on May 17 and the early hours of the next morning.
The chief intermediary for the two men was the Norwegian Governments Environment Minister Erik Solheim, apparently received calls from LTTE figures who said they wanted to surrender.
Trine Eskedal, a spokeswoman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Oslo, said: The minister said he spoke with Pulidevan at midnight, who gave him the message that the political leaders wanted to surrender (to the ICRC). At the time he could hear gunshots in the background. She said that an official, then contacted both the ICRC and the Sri Lankan Government.
The ICRC confirmed last night that it had received word from the Norwegians that the two leaders were looking to give themselves up.
The Sri Lankan Governments point man in the negotiations appears to have been Foreign Secretary Palitha Kohona. He said that in the days leading up to Sunday evening, he had received a number of messages indicating that Nadesan and Pulidevan wanted a way out.
Kohona said that his response had been that there was only one way to surrender that is recognised by military practice. He said they should obtain a white flag and give themselves up. I kept saying this for three days, he added.
Kohona produced a text message stored on his phone which he had sent to the NGO at 8.46 a.m. on Sunday, 16 hours before the Norwegian minister had his final conversation with the LTTE leaders.
The message in response to a question from the NGO as to whether the two political leaders would be safe if they gave themselves up read: Just walk across to the troops, slowly! With a white flag and comply with instructions carefully. The soldiers are nervous about suicide bombers.
LTTEs International Relations Head S. Pathmanathan on Tuesday accused Colombo of treachery in the killing of the political wing leaders, and said it is a crime against humanity that needs to be investigated.
We were instructed to make contact with the 58th Division of the Sri Lankan forces in the war zone, un-armed and carrying white flags. B. Nadesan and Puleedevan were un-armed and carrying white flags and were called on by the Officers of the 58th Division to come forward for discussions. When they complied they were both shot and killed, he added. - ANI
Defence.lk has removed the naked photos of Prabhakaran from the website to avoid bad publicity. The fact is they are happy to desecrate the body of a dead enemy, but they just don't want to show it to non-sinhalese.
Nadesan, Pulidevan and Charles Anthony tried to divert the attention while the rest escape. but that never went to plan. After hearing the news LTTE leader went back maybe becuase he heard the story of his son and everyone got slaughtered.
Ashok,
There have been many instances which have showed what the facts are but not inclined to post them now.
Giving respect to a deceased,I think thats the least I can do to a fellow Tamil.
Everyone's free to stand by whoever they like.But logic given by those bunch of jokers doesnt hold good and is childish - I already posted 2 reasons on that.
One point I agree though,the death might not have been clean and not for nothing did MR return abruptly from a abroad visit nor was it a coincidence that SF was here this week.
[Soosai and Poddu Amman's bodies are never shown by the government for some reason. ]
That is coz Holes will be punched abt their Bodies & hence they are not releasing it.
I am sure that most of the tiger leaders were tricked up before their death.
When LTTE sent the plane, the pilot wrote a letter telling youth to join, if they did LTTE would of had a better chance. They could of had a chance of holding back the sla for another 3 weeks or so.
also it is not possible that he was shoot after talking cyanide ?
But I believe this is not Prabaharan, its his body double. I am certain now. Long time ago i knew a guy who looked like prabaharn if you look from specific angle. But he had dark complextion.
Ok.. guys..why defence keep changing the photos at their web site. Are they trying to show their so ethical ?
after killing people with the white flag. this sms story about the surrender is all over the press.
how low can these people go.
I think we should ask for a land in Canada. It is so far the best place also Canada has lot of empty lads with no use of it. And also the political parties in Canada love us. I am sure, they will try to accomadate us. If any one can start a petition to send to PM Harper requesting him to accomadate all our LTTE lovers., I would definitely support it.
And also we can move the border line during the night and make our land bigger and bigger. Krishna will help us in this course. Siri langa is too small for our cause. If Canada refuse, Norway, swededn, Finland are very good places too. All the PM s in these countries are gay. I am sure they will not mind to do something about this.
I am so tired of protesting now. Siri Langa is too far, so they can't actually here us from Canada. If anyone of you have problem with this, please let me know ok.
praba is not dead i saw him going on trip to see yeti vt santa clause......he will be back and he will bring bigfoot vt him...after that we can achive eelam together in the beaches of atlantic city..all hail the great thaleivar....kizz ma round ass
praba is not dead..am certain of that as im certain that most of ua fathers are not the ones in ua birth certificates...i suggest u guys find ua real fathers in the time u spend to achieve peelam..dats a more worthy cause for ua moms...
I think Prabhakaran was shot several times in the forehead. The new photo on defence.lk has the handkerchief a little bit up and two distint holes are clearly visible, probably more under the cloth. It would be impossible to be shot multiple times in the forehead in combat.
I suppose we are also supposed to believe that Prabhakaran made this escape attempt while barefoot.
Bhadri,
Seems SLA has promoted Soosai as Brigadier,thats how it is reported in the new link with photos.
But no idea who is who,its so pathetic looking.
There is less news on tamilnet now becuase there was a reporter who gives the main news there. He is now probably dead.
Here is your political solution: ICRC banned from IDP camps
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has been forced to suspend the distribution of emergency supplies to as many as 300,000 people displaced by the Sri Lankan Army’s victory over the Tamil Tigers after the Government blocked access to aid camps.
Fears have been growing over the welfare of those forced to flee the conflict zone – many of whom are sick or suffering from battlefield injuries – after tight restrictions were placed on the UN and other agencies trying to administer aid.
Urgently needed supplies of food and clothing had been suspended after access to the camps was restricted by the Government, an ICRC spokesperson told The Times this morning.
Most of ICRC staff likely dead in the fighting:
The ICRC had been the only neutral aid organisation allowed inside the conflict zone. It had between 20 and 25 staff on the ground in the northeastern region where the Tigers made their last stand over the weekend but has not heard from them since last week.
[It would be impossible to be shot multiple times in the forehead in combat.
]
Badri,
Wat do u think of Charles Anthony Smiling on a photo taken by SLA ?
Will any enemy combatant will be posing & smiling for the Sinhalese ?
This Photo is what is making everything hazy.
Is it true that Semi nude Prabha body had some injury marks ?
Can u pls clarify on that ?
Let us ASSUME that VP and all other leaders are killed. What TNA and tamil people should do now? Before 1987, India was with tmil people. After JR's cunning work, all went wrong. Now, India (Congress) settled the revenge for Rajiv with the killing or maiming of 50,000 Vanni civilians. Now, only option for tamil people and TNA is to lobby the Indian Govt through DMK for a federal solution first. DMK should also lobby the Central Govt to remove the malayali advisors (Narayanan, Menon etc..). If these malayalis are not removed from the advisor positions, no political solution would be possible for tamil people as these malayalis are in the GOSL payroll.
The photo of Charles Anthony may be coincidence. I just find it odd that the face is exactly matching the death photo, which means it is a very, very recent photo. The fact that the shirt was the same also made it odd. And the fact that the photo turned up only the day he died. The shirt also looks too clean, but then I suspect they were cheated and told they were safe and advised to shave, wear fresh clothes for photo purposes.
As far as the smile, in that situation, if you think you are meeting them to negotiate an end to the conflict, you will be polite, shake their hand, smile to them. At that point you don't know you are going to be tortured and killed.
Again the photo is not really so important. I feel the circumstances surrounding the deaths are more relevant. The head wounds, the calls to ICRC to negotiate surrender, the Sri Lanka foreign minister confirming he gave advice how to surrender to the army.
I hope that now, we can all try and do the necessary to stop any further deaths amongst all communities and look forwards towards a peaceful and prosperous future for all.
just on the discussions here about contact from within the ltte leadership team and the outside world, eric solheim was interviewed on the bbc radio yesterday and he mentioned that even on the night before their deaths, he had been talking to pulidevan. So maybe thats your mole right there? you guys know more about the ins and outs than me, but theres direct proof that he was int contact with the outside world. It also tend to say that they werent captured and and shot later, because it was the night before, unless ofcourse solheim is telling lies.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/p0031jfj
interview with him starts at 8:25. At the end he says that he was in contact with pulidevan and had talked to him the night before the tamil leadership was destroyed.
Pulidevan was executed as he tried to surrender along with Nadesan.
You say that Charles Anthony wares the same shirt before and after. Stupid idiot take a closer look at his mustache.
Has he grown the mustache in couple of hours?
This is how you liars try to spin baseless stories.
Pulidevan was executed as he tried to surrender along with Nadesan.
- good, the ltte never showed mercy to the 600 cops they slaughtered nor to the hundreds of solders that surrendered in mullativu. Being rounded up and shot like the animals they were was what they deserved. Maybe your white master solheim should be jacked up for failing to provide a safe haven for the leaders.
Watch for 6 more juicy pics of LTTP leaders!!
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=3330
Also watch the breaking news video in
adaderana.lk to see Sea tiger leader Sooseis' rotting body in all its' glory!!
:-) Feisty!!
See how the traitorous,low-caste Jaffna Tamils celebrated the death(sorry, ascent to Peelam) of glorious Thalaivar Velupundei!!
http://www.army.lk/detailed.php?NewsId=497
Those bastards!! May the mighty Peelamic rage of Thalaivar s rotting body curse them to pieces, just like he blew some o'them to pieces in the past!!
Pics of more 'Freedom Fighters(TM)!', having naps after the exhausting process, which is achieving Peelam!!
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090520_02
Rest pussies!!(In Pieces)
LOL
In the picture Charles Anthony is in a good mood. very unlikely for a captured person.
Prabhakaran can't be that daft in surrendering (if he did that)without an external mediation of someone like KP. KP kept on saying his leader was alive even after pictures were released. All conspiracy theories.
My two cousins and their mother were killed in the bunker, 3 days back( May 15 or 16), another 2 more relatives seriously wounded. Surviving family member called from Vavuniya few hours back.
Guys, civilian losses are unprecedented in last 10 days of battle. As the Tamilnet reported figure of 25,000+ killed and wounded in last 3 days of battle, could be right.
Out of 20 relatives, 11 were killed, 3 were seriously wounded, 2 made it to the vavuniya camp, and what happened to the rest is unknown.
If people can be killed in the bunker, you can imagine how the bombing campaign can be carried out.
Call from Yama raja saying that the hell is crowded today and they are demanding a part of hell for them to settle. He wonders where the hell have they come from?
He is considering to build a new one for them so that they will rot in HELL forever. Bala has made all arrangements to show them to their new place.
Finally they have achieved liberation.
Good theory. Could be true. They didn't have any other option then. Oh so. They didn't swallow cyanide capsule then. Good leaders.
Hey mr. Editor go get ur eyes checked!!! Anyone can clearly see that the tash is longer and its curled up in the dead body against the original photograph! He's wearing the same shirt so wut???? Do u wear a shirt only once??? Wut ever said and done he's a bloody terrorist!!!!!!!!!!! GONG HARAKA!!!!!!!!!!!!
All LTTE supporters here must understand this is the end that VP was looking for,He has bi traded all the Tamils around the world and this is what a terrorist deserves itself.So anybody raise weapons against any Sri Lankan or against this proud nation will end up,like a pig in the mud (VP)as happened to VP.
Any comment on this guys?
http://onlymovienews.blogspot.com/2009/05/prabhakaran-alive-nakeeran-tamil.html
The Roachbane blogspot has published reports relating to an alleged execution of Prabhakaran -
http://roachbane.blogspot.com/
What about Prabhakaran's wife and daughter ?
What about Prabhakaran's wife and daughter ?
Yes . My face and many mens faces have stubble growing back the next day after shaving.
Well now in 2023 hey have got their karma. Severe economic crisis
VP was a diabetic during his final years. It's unlikely he went onto the battlefield. But he would have also not have been found by the enemy as he stated that before
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