Wednesday, May 20, 2009
Sri Lanka bans ICRC from IDP camps; let the executions begin
By Robert Bosleigh in Colombo
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has been forced to suspend the distribution of emergency supplies to as many as 300,000 people displaced by the Sri Lankan Army’s victory over the Tamil Tigers after the Government blocked access to aid camps.
Fears have been growing over the welfare of those forced to flee the conflict zone – many of whom are sick or suffering from battlefield injuries – after tight restrictions were placed on the UN and other agencies trying to administer aid.
Urgently needed supplies of food and clothing had been suspended after access to the camps was restricted by the Government, an ICRC spokesperson told The Times this morning.
The ICRC had been the only neutral aid organisation allowed inside the conflict zone. It had between 20 and 25 staff on the ground in the northeastern region where the Tigers made their last stand over the weekend but has not heard from them since last week.
The blocking of access to the battle zone has raised fears for the fate of those civilians too sick or injured to flee the area by foot.
Those who escaped had to wade through a mine-strewn lagoon, journeying several days to reach camps that are struggling to cope.
Accounts of conditions inside the camps — gained from testimony recorded covertly by aid workers — and the journey to them are horrifying.
Preema, a Tamil woman, arrived at the 400-hectare (990-acre) Menic farm camp on Sunday. She had left Mullaivaikal, the centre of the fighting where the Tigers made their final stand, after being shelled heavily.
She set out with her husband, mother and two children, to wade through the Nandikadal lagoon — a waterway strewn with mines — in a desperate attempt to reach safety.
There were deep craters where the lagoon had been bombed and people often drowned, she said. Her mother died in the lagoon. A man offered to carry her ten-year-old daughter. Preema never saw them again. Her husband was taken away by government troops after admitting that he had worked for the Tigers. He was stopped at a checkpoint in Oomanthai where refugees are being forced to strip before being allowed to pass.
“Everything is lost,” said Preema, holding her son, seven. “Please help me find my daughter. Not knowing anything is making me crazy.”
Inside one camp, Nandani, 76, described being forced to stand for up to five hours a day queueing for food.
Kala, a middle-aged woman, spoke about the constant indignities of her new life. “I do not have underwear. I am unable to use the Kotex that the Red Cross handed out,” she said, holding a packet of sanitary towels she had been given before the organisation’s access to the camp was restricted.
Kothai, another woman, said: “There is a bad distribution system within the camp. Every time it is the same people that get. Men crowd around and push the women and children aside.”
Government officials did not answer requests for comment. Access for aid agencies to another 200,000 refugees already in the internment camps — which the Government call “welfare villages” — has been severely restricted since Sunday, preventing the administration of basic care.
Ban Ki Moon, the UN Secretary-General, is due to travel in Sri Lanka on Friday to offer help to rebuild the ravaged northeast of the country and urge the Government to reach out to the Tamil population.
“These people have endured one of the cruellest military sieges of modern times — daily shelling over several months,” an international aid worker said. “They need urgent help.”
There are fears that the camp populations — especially children — will be hit by contagious diseases. Chickenpox, hepatitis A and dysentery outbreaks have been reported. Medical facilities are said to be woefully inadequate.
There are also concerns that the suffering will radicalise previously moderate Tamils, especially amongst the community’s international diaspora, which had been a key source of funding for the Tigers.
Most Sri Lankans are delighted by the defeat of the Tigers, a terrorist force that fought for 26 years for an independent Tamil homeland, propagating a war that left at least 70,000 dead. Many Tamils were against the rebels after they recruited child soldiers and terrorised their own people.
There were doubts over the sincerity of President Rajapakse’s pledge to build bridges between the Sinhalese and Tamil minority. He has seldom brooked dissent, his opponents say.
The Government is worried over the security situation, and is urgently trying to screen any escaped Tamil Tiger fighters from innocent civilians.
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At the risk of sounding politically naive , I would suggest the diaspora emulate the Tibetian model of govt in exile. They should reach out to non Tamils esp. westerners who are very passionate (Greens etc). I have seen them having "Free Tibet" stickers in their car bumpers. Although in Tibet's case theres a spiritual angle
Try setting up a govt in exile with embassies, by work with legal and political law makers. The Malaysian Tamil Wathayamoorthy, of the banned Hindraff movement is exile in London, perhaps you can tap in his expertise in handling a racist regime. Be weary of the Sri Lankan embassies which are serve the GOSL propaganda and spy network
[[Vivek said...
Nothing less than the Federal system is what we should be eying for. We need to pressurise the IC to get the Federal structure in place.]]
Vivek,
Badrinath already explained why the government should NOT give a federal solution.
[[Editor: "Badrinath" said...
Present need is to get a federal solution through peaceful method, and then use the federal solution to get Eelam in the long run.]]
Roy,
You're a genius. In addition you can also establish mini-Eelams in Toronto, London etc.
I went to funeral this evening in Toronto for 3 of my long relatives killed in Wanni on May 15. Guys, eye witness accounts of what happened on May 14,15 and 16 in Wanni would make you into tears. Unprecedented human catastrophe happened in the last week of battle in the war zone. Many kids were on the streets with injuries, parents got killed, no medical service or food. You can't simply imagine what happened there. Where is GOD?
Very sad even to hear. Just feel what would have happened for those who have seen those.
Makkal TV's analysis on VP's death video in youtube have been removed due to terms of use violation. Surprised surprised and wonder why ????
My friend's relative from Colombo on May 16, called my friend on that day said rumors are circling in Colombo as VP is captured and brought into Colombo. But he did not want to tell us because it was just rumors. If half the Colombo population knew VP was in Colombo on May 16, then everything we spoke here is supporting our theories.
Bhairav,
Keep on producing theories. It must be like chicken soup for you guys to get over the grief
Bhairav,
Understandable. But if VP has surrendered, it may be becuase of the fact he was not able to see the suffering of the people and may not be for the well being of himself in the future.
In that case, the SL govt should have treated him atleast like an enemy leader. They way they have deceived is more painful and punishable. But at the same time, it may not be correct as CA, Nadesan and pulidevan and all surrendered only on 17 th morning or 18th morning. So, that may not be true and only may be rumours.
Or even if its true, we need to go ahead. Thats what VP also wanted. Not to bury ourselved in the sadness. More over it may be a propaganda. If somebody blows it up in a crowded place they will keep adding masala for the story and finally they would say, VP wanted to save only his life.
Their only motive is to paint VP as coward so that the entire world would be talking only about this and not the suffering of the civilians. To an extent they have succeeded. Belief is life. common.
Indian is RAW mole here. Obviously he changed the religion for bread and butter. Now he is Roman catholic, when he goes to Colombo, he will become Buddhist.
Bhairav,
[Understandable. But if VP has surrendered, it may be becuase of the fact he was not able to see the suffering of the people and may not be for the well being of himself in the future.]
I dont buy into this, all along SLA has been killing 500 ++ civilians per day and you mean VP was able to see them suffer then, he should have been aware of the final outcome.
Sorry to be blunt here VP played a major role in this tragedy ..
May be Roy,
But are we going to stuck at this point. VP has started the struggle. The tamil community had used him as a soldier. Now if (IF) that soldier is gone, are we going to stop here???
Should we not try and get what ever possible at this moment???
Get the security of IDPs
Get the little bit of autonomy possible.
Roy, that was from Vivek, not me.
[Sorry to be blunt here VP played a major role in this tragedy ..]
I echo the same tone. Whatever decisions he made in last 1 year are pathetic at best.
Vivek said,
//Indian - what do you want????
prabhakaran is not merely a body. Its belief. His body would have lost. But not belief. Got it. Its a belief of a Race. Its a belief of all suppressed. Its belief of Tamils.
One thing is for sure, if VP has not taken arms, the entire Tamils of SL would have been thrown out of that country long time back like the Hill country tamils.
//
My last post here.
I am here because I dont believe none of what you said above.
The man might have started with what he believed was a just cause,but somewhere down the line the cause was lost and he and his wish alone mattered.
I keep on posting about the murder's he did on his own fellow people and all of you turn a blind eye to that and act as if nothing happened.He is a murderer who joined hands with Premadasa and hunted down his own people - Did you make a hue and cry then??Compile a list of Tamil leader's killed in Srilanka.You will be stunned to see who committed most of those murder's.
Today as I believed,the Tiger's have been finished militarily,who will sit and talk with the Srilankan government to get the Tamil's their due.All the moderate's have been murdered by VP and no one can deny that.
Weigh the Pro's and Con's - The man has done his own people so much harm than justice.
Apart from a few fanatics,History will record VP as the mean who lead thousand's of his fellow people to their doom - Remember History is always written by the victor for the vanquished have dissolved in thin air
For God's sake dont pull Hill country Tamil's into this.They are the silent suffering lot,branded as Coolies by the very same peole you eulogise here.
Did you see the 2002 press conference.Why should the leader of ALL Tamil's say he will take their situation into consideration after he gets the package from Srilanka government.SO wasnt he fighting for them as well,werent they Tamil's as well?Why were they looked down by the very same people who euologise here?
...and Vivek its such a shame on you.Those Hill country Tamils are the one's who migrated recently from TN and we should have had more ties with them.
I dont need a certificate from any of you here and I dont care what Sinhalese think about Chrstians for that matter.I think the hate might have emanated by the acts of people like Kaspar,but anycase I have no reason to worry about what they think about my religion
I have the privilege of having my own maternal uncle,who as part of IPKF fought in Srilanka.The numerous incident's he had to narrate upon his return were enough to know about the HERO you euologise here.
...and anti-Indian elements in this forum,its such a shame that you people wish ill for your own country.I have nothing more to say.
Vivek,it was a good joke about the surrender story.Suddenly the man got wind of his people's sufferings and decided to surrender - hahahahahah
Goodbye people
Guys,
Personally i feel that while GOSL must be tried in international Courts for the massacre, i too feel that some breathing time be given for the 2.5 Lakh IDPs languishing in the camps.
We have to check for 6 months to see whether the attitude of GOSL changes or not.
Even if they dont change the attitude, it is essential a Moderate leader emerges from tamils who can be friend with India establishment.
Without India support, Eelam tamils can do NOTHING. this is the sad thing but it is the reality.
Get INDIA support first before proceeding on any other thing.
..oh forgot to add,you people now talk about compromising down with Federal \ autonomy solution.
If only this wisdom was shown by the HERO earlier,this bloodbath would have ended 2 decades back \ Thousands wouldnt have lost their lives \ We would have not lost a visionary leader and that too NOT in Tamilnadu of all places.
Let me say this once again. Prabha is alive and well. The Pro LTTE souces will try to say that he miracously escaped but the truth is that he and most of his commanders would have left before the end.
What makes you think prabha will scarifice his life long ambition to free eelam from Sri Lankan Occupation be left to defending his son. Many people are hoping that by ending the LTTE on paper the protest against Sri Lankan Occupation will end. FAT HOPE.
If you were Prabha and had your own family, left with no choice, you would surrender one of them. As far as things go probabily charles was left behind to signal that he is around and the battle is not lost.
During one battle Napolean brought his wife to the front to signal to his troops that victory was soon. Symbolism to fighting troops is important. This is especially when you are fighting a defencive battle.
If the truth that Prabha left the feild much earlier, it could potray him as a coward. However as I said before nobody looks at Charles de gualle or Douglaus macarthur as cowards. You live another day to fight.
Unfortunately for those indulged in movie war romances think otherwise. Others say that he is "kept" alive by Pro LTTE so that they can collect money and have a good life. As per many estimates there is more then enough money.
AS MUCH AS SRI LANKANS HOPES TO END THE QUEST FOR EELAM. YOU WILL FAIL. BRICK AND STONES CAN BREAK OUR BONES BUT THEY WILL NEVER BREAK OUR SPIRIT.
Peter,
Sorry I couldn't respond immediately as I was away.
GUYS TELL YOUR HANDLERS NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY HERE, THE PROTEST WILL CARYY ON. CONTARY TO YOUR BEILEF 2ND GENERATION EELAM PEOPLE ARE NOW INVOLVED. THE VOICES ARE BEING HEARD. THE MONEY WILL BE USED FOR LOBBYING.
Gladiator you said KP is a traitor. Prabha trust no one. You desperate attempts to demoralise the eelam people have failed. AFTER 1983, WE DECIDED THAT YOU CAN NEVER HURT US ANYMORE!!!
Your supreme leader is eating well....
Enjoy
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2009/5/43904_space.html
Hi Navindran,
And how are the exchange rates? They must bearound 200LKR/USD now!
[We would have not lost a visionary leader and that too NOT in Tamilnadu of all places.]
LOL! Visionary leader? My arse! Visionary leader did not steal millions of $ from the taxpayers' money on Bofors gun deal? If a guy from rich family as Nehru family likes to steal from its own citizen, what would you think about scumbag, Karunanidhi.
Indian sellout, did you build temple for any movie stars in TN? Why not build a temple for your visionary leader,Rajiv? If you fond of "Pasta Lady", you can build one too.
Well Friends,
Actually the debacle starts from East. VP has not understood that there was no point in taking the civilians along with them. It puts lot of pressure like food, shelter etc.. etc.. only advantage was no moles gets created.
Then the way LTTE lost akkarayankulam was not convincing and it led to the loss of Pooneryn from where there was no stopping.
But having said that, he had painfully created and developed the organisation. He made the whole world understand that there is problem in SL. He would have done mistakes or even blunders.
In fact you cannot fight a army which has got a strngth of close to 300000 with all the modern weapons. Even if you fire a artillary, SLA had all the instruments to find the place. More over, the satellites of India provided pictures on an hourly basis to SLA and there was a big naval cordon. So, its sheer number game and LTTE lost it. Lets admit it and move on.
We need to see whether the cadres had been split and sent to different parts or they have died in the past battles.
Indian, tottaly disagree with about boys not willing to go down the federal model.
In the 87 accord its was india which came down with provincial council model of devolution. which never materialise.
Even in the last peace process the ltte has agreed to do federal solution. But nothing happend. So thast why its always been the position of eelam tamil people that goal should be eelam.
Even now were more then confident that we can achive that if no settlement happens .
Singalese people always are afraid of federal model solution thinking that will become a stepping stone for eelam.
So we will see how things works.
Indian wants to crush our rebellion once and for all, that's why all propaganda. Tamils nationalism and our identity is always a threat to India (they believe). Thats not something you can kill today.
Indian & Singalese can do all they can in terms propaganda to dis credit LTTE, they will always be our hero. The bravest of any fighter any where in the world.
You are wasting your time trying to modify those idea's we have, spent time trying undertsnad the root cause of the rebelion and try resolve it now. Do not show you stupidity now.
Before the Maverrargal rise again.
But lets put our heart together in settling the IDPs,
Getting some dignified solution. All these ifs and buts in a war would be there. If at all this decision had been taken , this could have been achieved etc..
Past is past and i go with Navindran about VP. He would have escaped. If at all he got killed, lets take it. Its a death of warrior.
Indian,
For your info...
You would have known sarathas" in Trichy - he is a SL tamil who came down to TN during riots. Like that go and see every business house in Trichy most of them are from SL. What i was trying to say was, if LTTE was not there almost entire tamils would have been chased to TN. If you do not understand or do not want to understand its ok.
More over Indian,
Just think... Rajiv was visionary. Why there was no vision about SL??? JR had him for his own fantasies...
Not only that, LTTE and Tamil parties have agreed for federal structure. But it was SL which is not ready to devolve even land and police powers.Dont put your garbage here. I think you are trying to put lies very loudly thinking that they would become truth.
no my dear. please know the fact and come back.
Vivek, contrary to popular belief, VP is not good leader who can take critical decisions right on the fly; ie: Rajiv assassination. Without Anton Balasingham, I doubt that LTTE would have lasted this long. The void made by AB's departure wasn't filled by anyone in last 2 years that put LTTE to listen into various sources who had different agenda for their own interests.
After all, VP wasn't the man who helped MR to throne in the last election?
அரசியல்துறைப் பொறுப்பாளர் பா.நடேசனும் சமாதான செயலகப் பொறுப்பாளர் சீ.புலித்தேவனும் கடந்த திங்கட்கிழமை (18.05.09) அதிகாலை 5:45 நிமிடம் வரை செய்மதி தொலைபேசி ஊடாக வெளித் தொடர்பில் இருந்தனர்.
அப்போது, சிறிலங்கா படையினரிடம் சரணடைந்து விடுமாறு அவர்கள் இருவரும் வற்புறுத்தலாக அறிவுறுத்தப்பட்டிருந்தனர்.
சிறிலங்கா அரச தலைவர் மகிந்த ராஜபக்ச மற்றும் பசில் ராஜபக்ச ஆகியோருடன் நேரடியாக ஆலோசிக்கப்பட்ட பின்பே மூன்றாம் தரப்பு ஒன்றினால் இந்த அறிவுறுத்தல் அவர்களுக்கு வழங்கப்பட்டிருந்தது.
இதன்பின்னர், அடுத்த ஒரு மணி நேரத்திற்குள் முன்னேறி வந்த சிறிலங்கா படையினரிடம் அவர்கள் இருவரும் சரணடைந்தனர்.
இவை எல்லாம் நடைபெறும்போது நடேசனின் மனைவியான திருமதி விஜித்ரா நடேசனும் அவர்களுடன் கூடவே இருந்தார்.
பின்பு, அவர்கள் இருவரும் சரணடையும் போது அந்த பகுதியில் இருந்து வெளியேறிய பொதுமக்களுடன் தானும் வெளியேறி சிறிலங்கா படையினரிடம் தன்னை ஒரு சிங்களப் பெண் என அவர் அறிமுகம் செய்தார்.
அந்த நேரத்திலேயே சரணடைந்த நடேசனையும் புலித்தேவனையும் சிறிலங்கா படையினர் சுட்டுக்கொன்றனர்.
அப்போது, துடித்து அழுது கதறிய நடேசனின் மனைவி, தனது கணவர் உட்பட அரசியல்துறையைச் சேர்ந்தவர்கள் சரணடைந்தபோது அவர்களைச் சுட்டுக்கொன்றது மிகவும் கொடூரமான ஒரு தவறு என சிறிலங்கா படையினருடன் கத்தி வாக்குவாதப்பட்டார் என அப்போது அந்த இடத்தில் இருந்த - பாதுகாப்புக் கருதி தனது பெயரை வெளியிட விரும்பாத - ஒரு சிங்கள செய்தியாளர் தெரிவித்திருக்கின்றார்.
நடேசனின் மனைவி ஒரு சிங்களப் பெண்மணியாக இருந்ததால், அவர் சிங்கள மொழியிலேயே படையினருடன் வாக்குவாதப்பட்டதாகவும் ஒரு கட்டத்தில் அந்த வாக்குவாதம் உச்சக்கட்டத்தை அடைந்த போது சிறிலங்கா படையினர் நடேசனின் மனைவியை நோக்கி சரமாரியாகச் சுட்டனர் எனவும் அப்போது அவர் அந்த இடத்திலேயே சுருண்டு விழுந்து உயிரிழந்ததாகவும் அந்த ஊடகவியலாளர் மேலும் தெரிவித்தார்.
நடேசன் முன்னர் சிறிலங்கா காவல்துறையில் பணிபுரிந்தவர். சிறிலங்காவின் தலைநகர் கொழும்பில் உள்ள நாரஹேன்பிட்டி காவல்துறை நிலையத்தில் பணிபுரிந்த காலத்தில் அங்கு பணிபுரிந்த விஜித்திராவை காதலித்து திருமணம் புரிந்து கொண்டார்.
விஜித்திரா, சிறிலங்காவின் தென்பகுதி மாவட்டமான மாத்தறையைச் சேர்ந்தவர்.
1983 ஆம் ஆண்டு ஜூலை மாத தமிழர் இனப் படுகொலைத் தாக்குதலை அடுத்து கொழும்பில் இருந்து வெளியேறி யாழ்ப்பாணம் சென்ற நடேசனும் அவரது மனைவியும் அங்கேயே வசித்து வந்தனர்.
FF starts lying through his a5s again!
Everybody knows LTTE did not want to 87 accord. LTTE withdres much before the accord fell through.
Similarly everybody know VP did not accept the federal solution. AntonBala was the only 'visionary' leader you had in recent times and he realised that what was acheivable was a federal solution. But VP wanted none of that and forced Bala to renounce on the earlier agreement. Why LTTE forced the election boycott was the fear that Ranil will 'trap' LTTE to accepting a federal solution.
As I said many times before VP wanted all or nothing and he got nothing
To an extent I agree with you Bhairav. Always good advisors are required. Then AB is to be blamed for Rajiv's assasination. Becuase as far as i am concerned, VP was used as a soldier by AB and Tamils to fight for their cause.
AB is a idiologist and he has built it stone by stone.he would have known about Rajiv's case before it happened. He did not prevent it.
So, lets not bury our heads in the past and the decisions taken by various people.
Please go to one of the thread i have posted and read the hindu" article. I do not think VP is a bad leader. Infact if possible read Anita PRatap's interview also. In 1986 he said that today india is supporting us but in the future India would fight with us because of its interests. Thats the kind of vision he had.
I do not support VP blindly. In fact in 2001, When LTTE was strong, he should have demanded seperate country and got it. Or atleast federal structure he should have got it.
Election boycott was wrong. Agreed. But every time SLA loses around 5000 to 6000 soldiers they have stopped the war. IC used to be critical. But this time in the initial period when SLA lost more than 10000 also, they did not stop and they kept the recruitment on and on.... During that time, realising the enemy VP should have thrown hat and gone for other options.
But he depended on IC too much this time. There the failure started.
My hats off to Vijithra Nadesan- one heck of Sinhalse woman. You do not find many women like her. The way she had furious argument with SLA for killing her husband, put her in danger that resulted in death. They lived together for more than 3 decades and departed together in the same day.
RIP !!!
Jeyam,
Where is the vision of your Rajeev Gandhi or his mother Indra Gandhi or even his grand father Jawaharlal Nehru for that matter?
India has always had problems with all its neighbours due to the mishandling of foreign policy:
1) Pakistan: UN passed a resolution for a plebicite on Kashmir which 'democratic' India opposed and only Russian veto could save India. Four wars, still issue remains. Latest being Mumbai terror attacks.
2) Interfered in East Pakistan and sent its troops and created Bangladesh.Even Bangladesh is not in good terms with India except for Awami league.
3) Supported the Monarchy in Nepal. After it was thrown out, now interfered in their internal bickerings by backing the army and made Maoists loose power.
4) Lost a war in 1962 with China, lost Aksai chin area, still disputes over Arunachal Pradesh etc. Relations always tense.
5) Could not handle a small nation like srilanka. Tried to utilise Tigers as a bargaining chip to bend Jayawardhane and once the deal was struck, backstabbed the Tamils. Tamil genocide continues.
Such a big nation cannot handle srilanka and fears the formation of Eelam of five million Tamils.
Last sixty years of foreign policy was a big failure. Now his son Rahul Gandhi is stepping into the shoes of his family elders with his latin american girl friend to lead us in the same path!
ashokkumar,
Arming and training LTTE as well as rescuing VP during Vadamarachchi operation should definietly be included on that list of India's foreign policy blunders
Well,I said bye but still was compelled to post here as a man whose anniversary is today is being insulted.
That doesnt come as a suprise to me at all.I listed a whole lot of points yet we have ended with Rajiv.
I stick by what I said,he was a visionary who thought and acted in the best interests of my country.
No point unless you people also start discussing about Amirthalingam \ Yogeshwaran \ Sabaratnam \ Padhmanabha \ Sarojini Yogeshwaran \ Neelan Thiruchelvam \Kadirgamar and numerous others.You people pretend as if they never existed.
//Bhairav,
This is for you//
With due credits to Martin Niemöller:
"I went for Amirthalingam ; People were busy building temples to actors
I went for Padhmabana ; People were busy building temples to actors
I killed , I killed , I killed ; People were busy building temples to actors
and then
THEY came for me ; People still busy building temples to actors"
PS:Seems Nakeeran has comeup with a botched work
Anycase,goodbyeee
35000 இற்கும் மேற்பட்ட எண்ணிக்கையிலான மக்கள் கொல்லப்பட்டிருக்கின்றார்களbr />? ��. இதனை அனைத்து ஊடகங்களும் மறைத்து வருகின்றன. கடந்த 4 நாள் சிங்கள அரசின் கோரப்பசிக்கு 35000 பொதுமக்கள் கொல்லப்பட்டுள்ளார்கள். 3.5 இலட்சம் மக்கள் இருந்த பூமியிலிருந்து 145,674 மக்கள் மட்டுமே இராணுவக்கட்டுப்பாட்டுப் பகுதிக்குள் வந்துள்ளார்கள் என இராணுவத்தின் இணையத்தளமே தெரிவிக்கின்றது. அப்படியானால் மீதமானவர்கள் எங்கே? அனைவரும் கொல்லப்பட்டுவிட்டார்களா? இதனை எந்த நாடுகளும் கேட்பதற்கு நாதியற்றா நிற்கின்றன?
முல்லைத்தீவில் இன்னமும் படுகாயம் அடைந்தவர்கள் 25000 இக்கும் மேல் உள்ளார்கள். எங்கும் பிணங்களின் அழுகிய நாற்றம். அகழிகளுக்குள்ளேயே முடங்கிப்போன மக்கள், உறவுகள் எல்லாம் உயிருடனேயே அடக்கம் செய்யப்பட்டு விட்டார்கள். சர்வதேசமே, இன்னமும் நீ மௌனியா? ஏன் இவ்வளவு இழக்கப்பட்ட உயிர்களும் போதாதா? இது இன்னமும் உனக்கு இன அழிப்பாக தெரியவில்லையா? ஐ.நா சபை என்று நூறு தடவை கத்துபவர்களே, மனிதாபிமானம், மிருகவதை என்று குரல் கொடுப்பவர்களே, மிருக வதைக்கே வழக்குப்போடும் நீங்கள் மனிதனுக்கு மதிப்பளிக்கவில்லையா? எங்கே மானிடம்? எங்கே மனிதாபிமானம்?
கொல்லப்பட்ட உறவுகளின் கொல்லப்பட்ட தமிழர்களின் எண்ணிக்கை எவ்வளவு? ஏன் சுதந்திர ஊடகம் ஒன்றையும் ஐ.நா அனுப்பவில்லை? ஏன் மருந்து, உணவினை அனுப்பவில்லை? ஏன் நடுநிலமையாளர்களை ஐ.நா அனுப்பவில்லை. உரத்துக்கேளுங்கள். நீங்கள் இன்று கேட்காது விடும் ஒவ்வொரு நிமிடமும் நாளை உங்கள் வாழ்வே கேள்விக்குறியாகும். நாளை நீங்கள் உயிருடனிருப்பீர்கள் என்று என்ன நிச்சயம்? இன்றே ஆட்டம் காணத்தொடங்கி இருக்கின்றது சிங்கள இனம்.
தமிழர்களின் சொத்துக்களைப் பறிக்கின்றார்கள். கடைகளிலே பொருட்கள் வாங்கிவிட்டு காசு கொடுக்காமல் செல்கின்றார்கள். உணவங்களிலே சாப்பிட்டுவிட்டு காசு கொடுக்காமல் செல்கின்றார்கள். சோதனைச்சாவடிகளில் சோதனை செய்யும் இராணுவத்தினர் தொலைபேசி, பணம் என்பவற்றை எடுத்துக்கொண்டு போ என்கின்றார்கள். திருப்பிக்கேட்டால் தொலைபேசி இணைப்பு அட்டையை மட்டும் திருப்பிக்கொடுக்கின்றார்களbr />?
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�. தமிழர்கள் மீது அழுக்கு நீர் ஊற்றப்படுகின்றது. முகத்திலே வெற்றிலைத் துப்பல் துப்பியுள்ளார்கள். இன்றே இவ்வாறு ஆரம்பிக்கும் அவர்களது போக்கு நாளை எப்படி இருக்குமோ தெரியவில்லை. சர்வதேசம் எங்கும் வாழும் தமிழர்களே! இனியும் நீங்கள் காத்திருந்தால் உங்கள் வீட்டில் நாளை வந்து குடியேறிவிட்டு உங்களை வீதியில் விடுவான் அது மட்டும் நிச்சயம். எதிர்த்துக்கேட்க எவன் இருக்கின்றான்? பொலீஸில் புகார் கொடுக்கப்போனால் புலி என்று உள்ளே போட்டு சித்திரவதை. நீதிமன்றில் வழக்குத் தொடர்ந்தால் பல வருடம் ஓடியும் உங்களிடம் இருக்கும் பணம் மட்டுமே செல்வழியும் உங்களுக்கான நீதியான தீர்ப்பு கிடைக்கப்போவதில்லை.
எதிர்த்துப்பேச முடியாது. எதிர்த்துப்பேசினால் புலி, கைது, கொலை. இதை இன்னமுமா பார்த்திருக்கப்போறீர்கள்? கொல்லப்பட்ட மக்களின் நிலை சர்வதேச நிலைக்கு தெரியவில்லை. காயப்பட்டவர்களின் எண்ணிக்கை மட்டுமே 50000 தாண்டி ஓடிக்கொண்டு இருக்கின்றது. ஏன் சர்வதேச நாடுகளே இன்னமும் அமைதி? கேளுங்கள். வீதிகளில் முற்றாக இறங்கிக் கேளுங்கள் இல்லையேல் நாளை நீங்களும் சுவடழிந்து போவீர்கள்.
this is my first post here.
I do not think thalaivar surrendered to SLA.
here are my reasons
1. When Nadesan surrendered or asked to surrender, SLA wouldnt have come up with van story if they had thalaivar under custody.
2. He had ample opportunity escape barring the last few hours. But he seemed to preferred to die on the land he treasured. He would have been happy to see that part of that land (mud) was rubbed on him.
3. If there was execution, given the anger SLA had on thalaivar, they would have gone for more prominent features of his face. Like his eyes for example. It is quite unlikely the executioner chose to fire at the top of the fore head.
4. What I think is he would have taken cyanide and asked his body guard to blow his head. (Like his most admired cadre Seelan has done). The body guard due to the respect he had still avoided damaging the face. Cyanide in the blood stream would have stunned his nerves when his head was blown, leaving his eyes open (I have expert advise on this).
5. We are certainly horrified by the barbarism displayed by the SLA and colombo govt over innocents and we want to find an excuse to blame, but thalaivar had walked the talk and did not surrender.
Despite the genocide conducted by SLA, despite all the barbarisom they displayed in bulldozing the injured civilians, despite the unfair war launched by SLA using chemical weapons (definitely white phosporous, am not sure about other chemicals), we tamil community must give opportunity and time for Rajapakse to prove his bonafides (his claim on home grown solution). He is victorious, and as such he gets to control the destiny of the island. That is bitter to most of us, but that is the rule of war.
I am talking about not launching any guerilla attacks for few year at least. (It doesnt exempt Rajapakes/Fonseka from facing the music for the war crimes they have committed)
This confrontation has become a vicious cycle. This is potentially a point we can break the vicious cycle on violence. For the sake of innocents on both sides, we tamils should be gracious in accepting military defeat.
We need to remind the countries that have banned LTTE and obstructed its fight for tamil emancipation to take responsibility for tamil emancipation.
They will try their best to ignore us. But by banning our military arm and obstructing its function, the countries (India, US, Canada, UK, EU etc) have assumed stake in tamil stuggle for emancipation. Now the excuse LTTE and its methods are no more, they should tamils get control over their destiny, so their language, culture, economy, education etc are preserved.
This also applies to all the ardent critics of LTTE (douglous devananda, Karuna, ananda sangari, karunanithi and indian govt).
of course we cannot excempt scribes who blamed LTTE for every ill, like DBJ. Btw, guys have you notices DBJ often complains that LTTE deprived him of freedom of speech by restricting his publication in Canada, but the funny part is he doesnt practice it. I have tried to comment on his blog mildly critical of his role, but he didnt publish my comment. freedom of speeach my ass is probably what he said as a reply.
He wrote in metronews (Toronto) that tamils need to tone down the protests as Canada doesnt have clout with Sri Lanka. My argument with him was, since Canada banned LTTE (esp during CFA) it has become partner in struggle for tamil emancipation. If Canada had remained as neutral, then they can wash off their hands on tamil protests. Since they have banned LTTE, now it is their responsibility to ensure the rights of tamils.
Vivek
[VP has started the struggle. The tamil community had used him as a soldier. Now if (IF) that soldier is gone, are we going to stop here???]
We have to work on the premises that VP and LTTE are "gone" . Indirectly, this works well for the Tamil struggle for nationhood as the IC, saw LTTE/VP as terrorist outfits (thru' SL propaganda) and they were a stumbling block for any international support. IMO, LTTE/VP is a spent force.
Whats ins tore in the future , I can say for now but concur with Veeran's view i.e
[We have to check for 6 months to see whether the attitude of GOSL changes or not.
Even if they dont change the attitude, it is essential a Moderate leader emerges from tamils who can be friend with India establishment.]
I have also made a few other suggestions like following the "Tibetian model" are they feasible ?
At this juncture, would also consider KA as an alternative. Lately, my opnions about him are changing, but others here might dispute my opnion. I think he is a master strategist
Tamil protests in western nations must continue. We must hold the nations, esp the ones that banned LTTE and obstructed its function, responsible for tamil rights.
I believe that should be the thrust of protests.
In UK, the protests should continue to impress them of their mistake as colonial power.
In all places, we need to pressures all countries to force Sri Lanka to allow ICRC and UNHCR immediate access to the wounded and starved civilians in the North. These countries must be pressured to establish a UN truth commission. While truth commission will not bring back the innocent lives lost, it will help heal the families devastated by the missing loved ones.
We all have roles to play in this.
If diaspora tamils disagree on the need for moratorium on violence, then they should launch attacks against sri lanka without recruiting tamils in the island. The tamils on the island have suffered enough.
First thing all diaspora tamils can do is to handicap sri lankan economy by boycotting the products 100%, and not sending too much money to their relatives in the island. (the relatives splurge that money, and GOSL happily taxes that money).
Certainly the brave ones among the diaspora may attack shipping in and out of lanka. Even a mere threat of such attacks will increase insurance premiums and cripple the economy. LTTE didnt use such option as it was controlling people who were depended on food shipments.
Diaspora also may consider the option of using mercenery soldiers.
The island is not out of woods in terms of future bloodshed. So it is essential every stake holder uses this opportunity to find a long lasting peace.
During CFA there was only one party that submitted blue prints for solution (ISGA). That was maximalist demand for sure, but that was intended as a starting point for negotiation. This action alone vindiates Thalaivar for trying to translate his military victory into political victory.
It is quite baffling to me, that many seems to sing Colombo's tune, that he was not willing to compromise during CFA. He made the biggest compromise, by stepping down from seperate state. Ask DBJ, he will preach about how VP was stubborn without appreciating the above fact.
btw, DBJ also talked about severely injured VP (lost arm?), assuming the body found was that of VP, I didnt see any significant injury to his body. Most likely DBJ pulled out of his arse about VP severely getting injured in Visvamadu air attack.
After doing all he can to demoralize the diaspora and by extension weaken the struggle of LTTE, DBJ will of course absolve any blame on himself, but place all of them squarely on LTTE.
Badri,
I certainly agree with you whether it would have been better not to drag this war to the end.
This war was declared by LTTE as the *last war*, and VP had told a number of people that this is the last one, and either he will achieve seperate country or he will die fighing.
It is really unfortunate we have witnessed the latter option.
But, there were many thing going against him in this round. Post 9/11 world greatly restricted his access to modern weapons. SLA's air strikes and artillery became accurate due to tactical intelligence provided by israli UAV's, destruction of supply ships in high seas (I dont think it is insider job, it is most likely intelligence tip off from India), SLA's willingness to ignore its own casualties (mostly by throwing greenhorns to the front line), strategic intelligence provided by Karuna etc.
Certainly by thrwoing in towel early he could have saved close to 10000 youngsters who were conscripted. But on the flip side, if all the innocents killed/injured by SLA had taken arms, the outcome would have been different.
I for one not faulting vanni people, I am talking about the what-if possibilities.
Bottomline, VP fought like a warrier and kissed the earth he treasured in his death. He didnt runaway and he didnt surrender.
Let us focus on what needs to be done for the still suffering Vanni makkal.
The “Blame game” has started.
Falling into some trap (even Peter !) of keywords such as “Surrender”, “Shot dead on heads”, “Human shield of people ” etc…
This very last word is “insulting” to those people who were massacred at Mullai.
Right, we dignified spectators of this 30 years of wars are nearing the gospel Truth as we didn’t know anything before.
The best one is that some Tamil Traitor tricking VP, while willing to die in NFZ for SLA under the very SLA’s artillery rains. …
Indian,
Why did your visionary leader decide to impose his solution on people fighing for freedom (note the accord was between India and Sri lanka, not between GOSL and tamils as one would expect if that accord was meant to resolve issues between GOSL and tamils). And on top of that displayed arrogance that there would be no repurcussions for his actions by trying to militarily defeat LTTE.
Everyone seems to agree that it was a mistake on VP's part to assasinate Rajiv. However, I believe, other than revenge, VP believed that if Rajiv came to power he would send the IPKF again to sri lanka. I believe that was the calculation.
Ofcourse, if Rajiv had again meddled in sri lanka, all those who critisize VP for Rajiv assasination would have blamed VP for not taking Rajiv out.
If revenge alone was the reason for Rajiv assasination, can any one care to explain why VP didnt try to assasinate JRJ after he was out of power. JRJ was a sitting duck, and killing him would have been purely for revenge and that would have helped VP to collect lots of money from the tamil diaspora (83 victims).
Killing of Rajiv was to prevent him from meddling in sri lanka.
Ofcourse now the latest Ghandis are pretending to believe there will be no repercussions for their active assistance to Colombo. History often repeats.
Many often blame VP for electing Mahinda. There is nothing further from truth. VP negotiated with Ranil to start with ISGA as a starting point for negotiation, in return he promised he will not block tamil participation. Ranil refused to even discuss the possibility of using ISGA as starter blue print. So VP has decided to prevent tamil participation in polls, and his reason is let the sinhala people elect their representative. Of course, when Mahinda offered money to VP do what he was anyways going to do, he accepted that money. The money didnt influnce the decision. The decision was foregone at that time.
It is the sinhala people who elected Mahinda and they are now being rewarded for that.
If anything it is Ranil that prevented LTTE from translating their military victory into political arrangement. Ranil used his international influence to trap LTTE(washington visit for example), and at the same time modernizing the military. He also significantly increased maritime surveillance capabilities of GOSL by acquiring aircraft and systems from US. (either that or Indian tipoff played a key role in the destruction of LTTE ships).
Ranil acted like friend of tamils but undercut behind them. Rajapakse clearly declared that he is a enemy of tamil rights. Do you want to deal with one how is honest or the dishonest one. Choice was easy for VP when it came to the election time.
Dear Freedom Fighter,
"Singalese people always are afraid of federal model solution thinking that will become a stepping stone for eelam."
Badrinath has openly stated that federalism will be a stepping stone for Tamileelam. So it is not simply a fear of the Sinhalese. It is real.
A final (last and long) clear up of what I was told, not told and now told of what happened on the last week:
Prior or May 17th, I was told that senior leadership, along with all 'sensitive' families had been removed from LTTE controlled areas. Several thousand that remained were distant relatives and injured (some long-term; 'high risk' but likely to survive under ICRC supervision.
In addition, there remained LTTE doctors and civil officers to look after the remaining people and that negotiations were ongoing with ICRC for the organization to take responsibility for all.
I was told that SLA was being resisted by 200 cadres and a colonel assigned for the final 'pulipaachal' type defensive.
I know for sure that until May 1st Tigers were able to move safely from the Mulaithevu area to Trincomalee.
I suspect, that any debacle in Mulivaaykal was due to a collective misjudgement of mood in TN.
For weeks, LTTE maintained that if there is a change of government in India or mass show of support in TN, due to its dependency on New Delhi, Colombo would have to enter into some kind of ceasefire. For this to be possible, Tigers had to be in control of at least one village.
The other option, if Sonia-Congress came back to power, LTTE would become a purely "terrorist" group. I am sure I've being including the above two options in my comments for weeks now.
The misjudgement, I think, was to do with the week leading up to May 13th. Most people, including I, had assumed that SLA would go easy in that period to avoid upheaval in TN. But, what happened was the opposite. May 11th was one of the worst days; around 3, 000 people were killed and SLA took the coast. The 200 cadres were clearly not enough.
Misjudgement of TN was partly intelligence failure. It was also due to so many political parties taking up the issue as their pillar. Why would Jayalalitha declare she will send army to Eelam, this is Jayalaithitha we are talking about, if the Eelam issue didn't enjoy popular support in TN? So, it is not a case of blaming a person or a department; it was collective failure on all our parts.
Who died and who survived will be made clear in due course.
I know Bhairav seems to be privy to information on the status of his relatives.
I am not. My sister and youngest child returned to our home in Trinco on May 1st. Sea Tigers, she says, were in reasonable control till then. Her husband and two elder children (both in LTTE) staid. Thus far, there have been no updates on them.
They could be in jungles, under SLA detention or dead. Nobody has enough information to confirm either way. Our presumption in alive until things are cleared up, i.e. those in jungles are given enough time to reach any bases.
He refused to speculate on the circumstances of their deaths, but commented that "Sri Lanka is just one big violation of the Geneva Conventions."http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hh_jUzJqN5SWjJzM7j3pPD2rkMUA
That article, along with records of conversations with Norway and ICRC is enough to have a high profile Sinhalese tried for war crimes.
While they may not be punished and trial dragged on for years, war crimes publicity will cement moda land's place in the list of rouge states along with Burma and Sudan.
Also on the issue, "reconstruction" aid should not be allowed to go directly to the GoSL.
In the UK, there is some success on this front. Both ruling party, and the opposition which will most definitely come to power soon, have agreed on an "international mechanism" for aid. This panel is likely also to include Diaspora representatives.
http://www.epolitix.com/latestnews/article-detail/newsarticle/sri-lanka-relief-fund-should-be-internationally-managed/
The same should be pressed in other countries. More international involvement, more Diaspora say, would ensure money does not benefit the moda land but goes directly to rebuild our homeland.
wijayapala,
my personal view , federalism not going to end with separate country. in 20 years there going to be no religious or language influence. since sri lanka started English medium everything will change
Some newspaper photoshopped a fake picture of Prabhakaran watching a television. This website shows the original photo it was taken from:
http://champika-nirosh.blogspot.com/2009/05/prabakaran-is-not-dead.html
["Makkal TV's analysis on VP's death video in youtube have been removed due to terms of use violation. Surprised surprised and wonder why ????"]
All LTTE videos have been removed over the last 6 months. The Sri Lankan government has a team flag each video as TOS violation. When a certain number of people flag it, it is deleted automatically. They even posted a video showing people how to flag the videos to help them delete them.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KE20Df03.html
FOR EXILED ELAM TAMILS
You will not get what you want.(Confirmed) You will be presented with solution and you have two choices... Take it or leave it. Thats what you get for been too greedy.
I dont want to explain much to you idiot, no matter how much you cry we will be dictating term not you. YOU MAY ASK BUT DONT BE TOO SURE OF GETTING IT.
I believe in justified package for tamils but we will not give the way you lot want demand. remember your bunch of looser...
Beggers are not choosers
Badri,
That's just silly.
Even the so called original photo isn't original. That in itself was a Photoshop job. Nitharsanam.com was never associated with the LTTE.
People should stop worrying about VP; that'll be cleared when possible.
Our focus should now be to internationally isolate and economically paralyze the Sinhala state.
I'm encouraged by the international media response, so far.
I think I have some verifiable evidence that indicates the body shit lanka is claiming to show is not VP.
Forget about the night time image, which some believe is a mask over body image.
This is the higher res image published by AFP
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/slideshow/ALeqM5hh_jUzJqN5SWjJzM7j3pPD2rkMUA?index=0
Here is the picture of VP from pulikalinkural:
http://www.pulikalinkural.com/
There is huge number of differences, cheek shape, marking on his right cheek, ear lobe shape is different (the real one has ear tissue pushed in, the afp picture shows ear tissue raised out), double chin, eye glasses markings - different locations, skin colour all don't match.
I am now completely sure these are different people. I think my confidence here is a lot higher, since both images are high res as opposed to tv images being shown elsewhere.
I think true federal solution with genuine reconciliation can solve the Tamil problems based on full internal self determination.
But I will guarantee you that they will not allow that. From 1946 that's why the fight is on on.
Any way they sign agreements after agreements only to tear them a part or not even implement it.Racist mentality and fear of Tamils will never let us have peace.
At the moment the politician will be interested in milking as much funds as possible from others so they spend it in south to keep the happy. While killing the Tamils in the camp.
Upul,
I think it is better to forget VP story for a bit and concentrate on prosecuting GoSL. I'm sure LTTE will release video, either way, when appropriate.
Freedom Fighter,
A federal solution, i.e. 13th amendment(indo-lanka) with some 'tweaks', that allows us to hold UN sponsored referendum at a time of our choosing is Tamileelam guaranteed.
I am also fully confident that GoSL will give nothing. In fact, we are already witnessing hardening of resolves to fully colonize the entire island.
KP called on all Tamil parties to work for 'solution'. Meaning, everyone is sure that people like Andandasangaree and Devandna, who have been talking of federal by negotiations, will not be able to deliver.
In the meantime, we must seek to internationally isolate and economically paralyze the Sinhala state.
what's the string on the neck of VP?
http://tamilpower.com/x003.jpg
http://tamilpower.com/x002.jpg
http://tamilpower.com/x001.jpg
Standard & Poor's (S&P) has lowered the outlook of Sri Lanka's 'B' sovereign rating to negative from stable, on weak budgets, fallen foreign reserves and uncertainty over an International Monetary Fund loan.
[A federal solution, i.e. 13th amendment(indo-lanka) with some 'tweaks', that allows us to hold UN sponsored referendum at a time of our choosing is Tamil eelam guaranteed.]
Hopefully our politician's know this is a very important time , not to make mistake we made during 1946 independence. If we do not ask right thing we wont get it.
What noticed about these pictures is that only if you look at it from specific angle they resemble VP. Thats the reason they guys thing to hold his head this way and that way. Lighting plays lot of tricks. The current pictures on defence are nothing like him.
Any way its bloody hard to believe he was there until last minute or to believe that he took lot of risk having every single leader in the area including the potential replacement for him Charles Anthony.
He fought for us all his life what to allow everything to get destroyed in this one day ?
Nop i do not think so.
We have to continue our fight until Tamils are free. I will be going to some more protest with in few hours.
We will asking for
1) self determination for tamils
2) immediate ICRC UN access to Tamils
3) justice for crimes commited
4) free tamils from detention camps
etc
No time to lose.
Bandas have done a great favor unwittingly to Tamils by announcing that there are no more Tigers and their leaders are all killed.
Now, the IC and the international media start speaking for Tamils openly. They are out of their schizophrenic “Terrorist” mind that the Bandas have used to maximum.
Let Bandas celebrate their hate towards Eelam Tamils. Their wake-up is going to be terrible. In all aspects.
Nakkeran:
போர்க்களத்தைவிட்டு வெறியேற மறுத்த தலைவர்
களத்தில் இழப்புகள் சகஜமானதுதான் என்பதைப் புலிகள் அறிவார்கள். ஆனால், தங்களின் இலட்சியமான தமிழீழத் தாயகம் அமைவதற்கு எதை இழக்கவேண்டும் எதைக் காப்பாற்ற வேண்டும் என்பதிலும் அவர்கள் கவனமாக இருப்பார்கள். அதனால், மே 17-ந் தேதியன்று புலிகளின் மூத்த தளபதிகள் அனைவரும், தங்களுக்கு வழக்கமாகக் கட்டளையிடும் பிரபாகரனிடம், கோரிக்கை வடிவில் ஒரு கட்டளை பிறப்பித்தனர் என்கிறார்கள் தொடர்பில் உள்ள வட்டாரத்தினர்.
தமிழீழத் தேசியத் தலைவர் அவர்கள் இங்கிருந்து வெளியேற வேண்டிய தருணம் இது. ஏணென்டால், சிங்கள ராணுவம் தனது பாரிய படைகளோடு நெருங்கி விட்டது. இது இந்தப் போரின் இறுதிக்கட்டம். இதிலிருந்து தலைவர் அவர்கள் மீண்டால்தான் அடுத்த கட்ட போராட்டத்தை முன்னெடுக்க முடியும்.
நம்முடைய இலட்சியமான தமிழீழத்தை வென்றெடுக்க முடியும் என்று தளபதிகள் சொன்னதை பிரபாகரன் ஏற்றுக் கொள்ளவில்லையாம். நமது மண்ணின் விடுதலைக்காகத்தான் நான் போராடுகிறேன். அதனால் கடைசிவரை இந்த மண்ணில்தான் இருப்பேன் என பிரபாகரன் உறுதியான குரலில் கூற, தளபதிகள் அவரிடம் நீண்ட நேரம் வாதாடியுள்ளனர்.
இந்த மண்ணில் உங்கட மகன் நின்று போராடட்டும். எங்கட தலைவராகிய நீங்கள் பாதுகாப்பான இடத்துக்குப் போயாக வேண்டும். அப்போதுதான் இந்தப் போராட்டம் எழுச்சியோடு தொடரும் என்று தங்களுடைய கோரிக்கைக்கு அழுத்தம் கொடுத்திருக்கிறார்கள்.
தன்னுடைய இடைவெளிக்காக மகனை முன்நிறுத்திய தலைவர்
தளபதிகளின் கோரிக்கையை யோசித்த பிரபாகரன், தனது மகன் சார்லஸ் அந்தோணியை ஈழமண்ணில் இருக்கச் செய்து போரை தொடர்ந்து நடத்தச் சொல்லிவிட்டு, தளபதிகள் கூறுவதுபோல, அங்கிருந்து பாதுகாப்பாக வெளியேற நீண்ட யோசனைக்குப்பின் சம்மதித்துள்ளார்.
இதையடுத்துஇ மே 17-ந் தேதி ஞாயிறன்று இந்தியாவின் ஆங்கில ஊடகங்களில் ஈழநிலவரம் குறித்து சிங்கள அரசு பரப்பிய தகவல்கள் திரும்பத் திரும்ப ஒளிபரப்பாகிக் கொண்டிருந்த நேரத்தில், புலிகள் ஒரு பெருந் தாக்குதல் திட்டத்திற்குத் தங்களைத் தயார்படுத்தியிருந்தனர் என்கிறது கள நிலவரம். மிகச் சரியாக வியூகம் வகுக்கப்பட்டு நிறைவேற்றப்பட்ட அந்தத் திட்டம் இதுதான் என்றும் அங்கிருந்து வரும் தகவல்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றன.
3000 கிலோ வெடிமருத்துகளை உடலில் கட்டிய 60க்கும் அதிகமான கரும்புலிவீரர்கள்
3000 கிலோ வெடிமருந்துகளை தங்கள் உடலில் கட்டிக்கொண்டு 60-க்கும் அதிகமான கரும்புலிகள் ஊடறுப்புத் தாக்குதல் நடத்துவது என்ற திட் டத்தின்படி இருவரணி, மூவரணியாக கரும்புலிகள் பிரிந்து, முன்னேறி வந்த சிங்கள ராணுவத்தினர் மீது தற்கொலைத் தாக்குதலை நடத்தினர். விடுதலைப்புலிகளின் மற்ற படையணியினரும் சரமாரியாக சுட்டுக்கொண்டே ராணுவத்தை எதிர்த்து வீரச்சமர் புரிந்தனர்.
தொடர்ந்து முன்னேற்றம் கண்டு வந்த சிங்கள ராணுவம் இதனை எதிர்பார்க்க வில்லை. தங்கள் உயிரைப் பற்றிக் கவலைப்படாமல் தலைவரைப் பாது காப்பதற்கான ஊடறுப்புத் தாக்குதலில் ஈடுபட்ட புலிகளை ராணுவத்தால் கட்டுப்படுத்த முடியவில்லை.
இருதரப்பிலும் கடும் சண்டை நடந்த அவ்வேளையில், வெடிமருந்துகளுடன் பாயும் புலிகளைக் கண்டு ராணுவம் சிதறியது. இந்தத் தருணத்தைப் பயன்படுத்தி, பிரபாகரனை அங்கிருந்து பாதுகாப்பாக கொண்டு சென்றனர் தளபதிகள்.
Nakkeran:
சுரங்கப்பாதை வழியே சென்ற தலைவர் மற்றும் தளபதிகள்
புலிகளின் வசமிருந்த கடல்பகுதியில் போர்த்துகீசியர்கள் காலத்தில் கட்டப் பட்டிருந்த கோட்டை ஒன்று உண்டு. அந்தக் கோட்டைக்குள் பிரபாகரனை அழைத்துச் சென்றனர். அந்தக் கோட்டையின் கீழ்ப் பகுதியில் பழையகாலத்து சுரங்கப்பாதை உள்ளது. அந்த சுரங்கப்பாதை வழியாக பிரபாகரனை முள்ளிவாய்க்கால் கடற் பகுதிக்கு அழைத்துச்சென்றனர். அங்கே கடற்புலிகளின் படகு தயாராக இருந்தது. அதில் பிரபாகரனை ஏறச் செய்தனர்.
அதேவேளையில், வன்னிக்காட்டில் ராணுவம் மீண்டும் தாக்குதல் நடத்தியது. அப்போது, இன்னொரு தற்கொலைப் படையும் படையணியும் வீரம் செறிந்த தாக்குதலைத் தொடர்ந்தது. மீண்டும் ராணுவத்தினர் சிதற, அந்தத் தருணத்தில் பொட்டு அம்மான் பாதுகாப்பாக வெளியேற்றப்பட்டார்.
அப்போது திறம்படக் களமாடியவர் சார்லஸ் அந்தோணி. புலிகளின் தாக்குதலில் சிதறி ஓடுவதும், மீண்டும் ராணுவம் தாக்க வருவதுமாக வன்னிக் களம் அதிர்ந்து கொண்டிருந்த நிலையில், கடற்புலிகளின் தளபதியான சூசையை பாதுகாப்பாக வெளியே அனுப்பும் முயற்சி மேற்கொள்ளப் பட்டது.
தன் குடும்பத்தின் மீது அதிகப் பாசம் கொண்டவர் சூசை. அவரது மனைவியும் 17 வயது மகளும் ராணுவத்தின் பிடியில் சிக்கி சில நாட்கள்தான் ஆகின்றன.
இரண்டாயிரத்திற்கும் அதிகமான இராணுவத்தை கொன்ற கரும்புலிவீரர்கள்
புலிகளின் அடுத்தடுத்து 23 கரும்பலித்தாக்குதல் சம்பவங்களால் இரண்டாயிரத்திற்கும் அதிகமான சிங்கள ராணுவத்தினர் செத்து விழுந்தனர். இந்தத் தாக்குதல்களை முன்னின்று நடத்திய பிரபாகரனின் மகன் சார்லஸ் அந்தோணி, சிங்கள ராணுவத்தின் தாக்குதலுக்குள்ளாகி களப்பலியானார்.
புலிகளின் கடைசிநேர அதிரடித் தாக்குதல், சிங்கள ராணுவத்தின் 58-வது டிவிஷனை நிலைகுலைய வைத்தது. புலிகள் அடிக்கத் தொடங்கிவிட்டார்கள் என்ற பயபீதியில் ராணுவத்தினர் சிதறி ஓடினர்.வன்னிக்காடு புகை மண்டலமானது. கடைசி இலக்கை நெருங்கிவிடலாம் என நினைத்த ராணுவத்தின் கண்களை கரும்புகை மறைத்து, முன்னேற் றத்தை முடக்கியது.
இதனால் பிரபாகரனையும் பொட்டு அம்மான், சூசை ஆகி யோரையும் பாதுகாப்பாக வெளியேற்றுவது சாத்திய மானது. அவர்கள் தனித்தனி படகில் ஒருவர் பின் ஒருவராகப் பயணித்தனர். கடற்புலிகள் பயன் படுத்தும் படகுகளின் வேகம் சிங்கள ராணுவத்தை மிரள வைக்கக்கூடியது.
உதாரணத்திற்கு, ராமேஸ்வரத்திலிருந்து இலங்கைக்குச் செல்ல வேண்டுமென்றால் 12 நிமி டங்களில் அந்தப் படகின் மூலமாகச் சென்று விடலாம். மின்னல் பாய்ச்சலில் செல்லும் அத்தகைய படகுகளில் பிரபாகரனும் முக்கியத் தளபதிகளும் பயணித்து, இலங்கையிலிருந்து கிழக்குத் திசை நோக்கி 3 மணி நேரப்பயணத்தில் பாதுகாப்பான இடத்தை அடைந்துள்ளதாக கள நிலவரங்கள் தெரிவிக்கின்றன.
சிறீலங்கா கடற்படையின் கண்களில் மண்ணைத்துாவிய கடற்புலிகள்
சிங்கள கடல் எல்லைக்குட்பட்ட ராணுவக் கப்பல்களை ஏமாற்றி விட்டுச் செல்வது புலிகளுக்கு கைவந்த கலை. அதே நேரத்தில், சர்வதேச கடல் எல்லையில் இலங்கைக்காகத் தீவிரக் கண்காணிப்பை மேற்கொண்டிருக்கும் இந்தியக் கடற் படைக் கப்பல்களின் கண்ணில் மணலை அள்ளிக்கொட்ட முடியுமா என்ற தயக்கம் புலிகள் தரப்பிலேயே இருந் திருக்கிறது.
ஆனால், இந்தியக் கடற்படைக்கு ஏற்கனவே உரிய உத்தரவுகள் இடப்பட்டிருந்தன. இலங்கையிலிருந்து வெளியேறும் படகுகளைப் பிடித்துக் கொடுப்பது நமது வேலையல்ல என்பதுதான் அந்த உத்தரவு.
பலவித அழுj;தங்களால் இந்த உத்தரவு இடப்பட்டிருந்தது. அதனால், அந்த மின்னல் வேகப்படகு சீறிச் சென்றபோது, மேலிடத்து உத்தரவுக்கேற்ப இந்தியக் கடற்படை தனது செயல்பாடுகள் எதையும் மேற்கொள்ளவில்லையாம்.
ashokkumar2103,
I think Nakeeran is speculating. There have been no confirmations of anything. They will only use communication sparingly. We will have to wait in the same way we used to in the '80s.
khanthas,
You make a brilliant point. West no longer has "terrorism" argument. Those who voice for us, e.g. Jeremy Page, need no longer fear the "apologist for terrorists" slur.
FreedomFighter,
As you say, what ever may have happened in Mulivaaykal does not shed us of our responsibilities.
We are not military strategists to speculate on how and where to escape or ambush.
Our strength is ability to gain and maintain international support for Tamil civilians.
Our duty now is internationally issolate and economically paralyze the Sinhala state until it:
1. Frees all detainees in the internment camps.
2. Demilitarises our homeland, including our homes and lands in so called "high security zone".
3. Allows our people to govern themselves.
Some comments to various messages above.
["will the video be made public?"]
There will not be a video, so don't hold your breath. Charles Anthony is dead, Prabhakaran's wife and children are dead, Soosai is dead, around 100 LTTE leaders are dead. If anyone is waiting for a video to show Prabhakaran is alive, then we are stuck in denial of what just happened. Can anyone believe the plan was for all of Prabhakaran's family to be killed, all the LTTE leaders to be killed, all of the LTTE cadres to be killed, and then for Prabhakaran to show up 6 months later and say "look I'm still alive, I win"?
["I wonder why Tamilnet reported LTTE casualties first time in ages."]
Its a psychological game. They are trying to show the LTTE still exists by reporting casualties in the east. For six months they didn't report any casualties, but suddenly they are ready to report 5 unknown cadres died in the east.
They still haven't announced Deepans death. They haven't announced the 10,000 cadres that died defending the no fire zone. What does it mean to announce 5 cadres died in the east? I am certain the announcements will become fewer and fewer over the next few months. It has already happened actually. There hasn't been an attack in Amparai or Baticaloa for a couple months. Last few announcements have been ambushes against LTTE forces there. The number of arrested and tortured cadres from Vanni will be huge right now. All sorts of information is going to come out to the government. Thousands of files and photographs have been recovered in Vanni. The government has all advantages right now, so the best thing for the remaining cadres is to merge into civilian life until things cool off. I'm not saying that's what they will do, but that's the only way they will stay alive.
["pottu amman escaped to carry on ltte...he is next after prabha."]
Even if he did, so what? The entire leadership was killed. All of the cadres were destroyed in their last defence of the leadership. There are no more regiments, no heavy weapons, no more sea tigers. What will Pottu Amman do in this situation even if he is alive?
Karuna Amman was right when he said a couple days ago that the LTTE should have spread its leaders and cadres out throughout the island as soon as it became clear Kilinochi was going to fall. Even if Karuna was a traitor, he was a much more intelligent tactician.
["Lets take the case of VPs death.
a) There were two photos released - one video and one photo - both are different
b) When people said that the vidio released on the first day was masked one -second photo was released - body without clothes etc..."]
The only difference in the two photos are that the body has decayed, and stubble has grown more. Dead bodies continue to grow hair even after they are burried. You can search for it on the internet.
The eyes were open and now are half closed, but thats just part of the decay process. If you closed the eye lids with your fingers they will remain closed. You have seen that in a thousands movies. His body has been dragged here and there, unchanged, smeared with mud - so change in the eyelids being a little closed is only natural.
["Between all the three of the instances, it does not make any difference for the next six months. So, lets not keep on arguing on this."]
The important thing now is to save the civilians. There will be thousands of disappearances and murders now. That's why the ICRC is kicked out of the camps, so they cannot document the population.
As far as war crimes, if you are lucky (very hard) you could maybe get three people arrested and even then with minor sentences. Practically no one has been found guilty in Yugoslavia. Practically no one has been found guilty in Rwanda. No one has been found guilty in Cambodia. The United Nations and international courts are jokes. If you want to punish these people, then you have to do it yourself, but then the cycle of violence will keep going. There is no good solution that will bring peace.
See the following report form a newspaper today:
["Calling for increased access so the international community could make a decision on war crimes, the outgoing US Ambassador to Sri Lanka gave a final press conference on Wednesday before his departure from the country.
"On the question of war crimes we think it's important for the international community to have more information about what happened on both sides during the recent offensive in northern Sri Lanka," said US Ambassador to Sri Lanka Robert Blake."]
Basically the UN is asking Sri Lanka to allow us access so that we can document war crimes against you. Its like asking a murderer is we can have permission to search his house to find evidence against him. There is no way a criminal is going to voluntarily provide evidence against himself to a court.
["If a leader can surrender and save 25000 people he has to surrender. Then only he is a true leader. If VP has surrendered to save 25000 people then there is no harm. And if he had been executed after that then its cowardice from the SLA part and we need to take revenge for that."]
I have serious doubts about claims of 30,000 civilians still in the war zone along with 1,000 wounded cadres. After the leaders were killed there isn't a single mention about these civilians and wounded cadre.
To me, unless there is some evidence, or at least Tamilnet raising the issue further, it was just a bargaining tool during the negotiations with Norway to get a chance to extract the leaders. We should note one of the conditions mentioned for surrendering was to release all the remaining civilians. I will have to look up who mentioned this, but I think it was the Norway minister or ICRC. They said the LTTE agreed to it and released them.
I believe the LTTE did this sometime before the 16th. That's when the Sri Lankan army announced no more civilians in safe zone.
After releasing the civilians the LTTE was supposed to be allowed to surrender, but negotiations kept getting stuck. And from the words of the Sri Lankan foreign minister it was clear they never wanted the LTTE to surrender. His answer shows he was not serious. He sent them a text message saying "go out and try carrying a white flag, thats what people usually do in war." That is not the answer to give as an official. He should have informed the military and they should have been waiting for them to come out and surrender officially. Instead he sends a sarcastic message back to them, and when they tried it they were massacred.
Tamilnet does not include Charles Anthony's name in the surrender list, but his body was shown together with Nadesan and Pulidevan and announced at the same time. Even Vaiko mentions they went together with Charles Anthony. So I think Tamilnet avoided mentioning Charles Anthony's name because it would look bad for Prabhakaran's family to have tried to surrender.
As others have said, there is no point looking for a traitor as it will only make us doubt some of those who sacrificed their lives. It is obvious Norway and the ICRC were clearly traitors though. They had negotiated a surrender and told the LTTE leaders they would be safe.
latest article by DBS and RAM did not mention anything about VP.but they talk about post-war scenario.
-It is time for the Tamils to reignite their struggle for freedom with more vigour and commitment.
-It is time for the Tamils to learn from the mistakes of the past and march forward towards their dream homeland.
-It is time for the Tamils to mobilise their global resources to launch a diplomatic & economic offensives against the Sri Lanka
-It is time for the Tamils to avenge Sinhala Buddhist regime which has humiliated us in defeat in the courts of justice
-It is time for the Tamils to act, act immediately and act wisely
I am also thinking that if Sri Lanka refuse to all UN and ICRC in there we must ask International Intervention of some sort. To Stop the genocide. Stop executions of tamils. There are serious crime being committed in these areas. We need immediate actions. there is not the time morn the deaths of the people, if we do not do something. there want be any tamils left in sri lanka.
Our protests and our voices should be as strong as what we had before end safe zone.
how can the civilians be saved? they are in their homeland. Only way is by sla leaving...there is no other option
Having said whatever I said, I will give my final opinion (speculation) on what happened and then stop talking about it. In my view, just based on reason, this is what I believe happened:
Prabhakaran planned to have a final battle to the death, a glorious last stand against the Sinhala state in which he was aware they would lose. This explains why every single LTTE leader was present in the battle zone.
The final battle would show the international community the cruelty of the Sri Lankan army and make it clear the two sides could never live together peacefully. He would go down in history as a glorious leader who gave his life fighting to protect his people, like the great kings of the past.
I believe he was tired of things he had been seeing around him. Not everyone was as dedicated to the cause. Some close leaders had betrayed him like Karuna Amman, others had stolen money, etc. After ruling an independent Tamil nation for 10 years, after having attained all battlefield successes against the Sri Lankan army, he was not prepared to go into hiding or to relocate to a foreign country. He preferred to fight and die for his people.
As the inevitable end came closer, he was left mostly with civil and political leaders around him, and their families - more importantly his own family. All of the fearless military leaders died bravely defending the people. But as the last days came closer, he was not surrounding by the fearless fighters. As such it is only naturally his wife and children, who would not be as brave, would have begun crying and looking for a way out. Even some of the political cadres were probably also weak in the final moments, and looking for a way out.
What could he do in that situation? His own wife and daughter probably crying and begging him to surrender. This is why LTTE cadres were instructed not to marry. As long as you are married you will have natural attachment to your wife and children. This is not something wrong, it is a natural human instinct.
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Thinking for their welfare and to pacify them, as well as some of the civil service leaders who were not brave fighters, he agreed to a surrender through Norway, and was assured all of them would be spared - but of course he would have to face trial and be executed.
After Soosai had already sent his own family to the Sri Lankan army days before, it seemed they would be good to their promise of not harming the innocent family members.
Prabhakaran and all of the leaders approached the army unarmed as instructed (which explains the rusted old gun claimed to be Prabhakaran's gun - clearly not his gun). After surrendering, they were all executed, including young children. The useless one's were killed first - that would include the civil and political cadres like Nadesan as well as Charles Anthony, who wouldn't have any vital military information. The more useful people like Prabhakaran and Soosai were kept an extra day, maybe even tortured before being shot in the head. Only Pottu Amman was invaluable to the Sri Lankan army, as he has information on all of the cells throughout the country. So he has been kept in custody and will probably be tortured for a month before they kill him. Once he is killed they will not show the body, as they have already announced he died a few days ago.
Do to the capture of Pottu Amman, you will find many arrests being made in other parts of the country. I am sure most of the cells have already fled into hiding, knowing they are compromised.
I am certain the true events will be known in a few years, as many low ranking soldiers were involved in the arrest and murder of these people. They will slowly tell people, and information will leak out.
If the decision making process was based on the decisions of many leaders, such an end would never have come. But the fact that Prabhakaran was to absolute authority and whatever he decided was carried out allowed for a final fight to the death, which was doomed to end in defeat.
The official version of what happened will be touched up by both sides to present the image they wish to be perpetuated. The Sri Lankan army will try to show everyone was a coward, and the remaining LTTE leaders like KP will try to show everyone fought valiantly till the end. The truth will likely be somewhere in between. Whatever the case, the entire war was a disaster and a tragedy, probably based on lack of intelligent advisers such as Anton Balasingham, Balraj and even Karuna Amman. People like Karuna Amman, who are more interested in material opulence, will always try to dissuade people from a final fight to the death. That would have actually been helpful in this case. A balancing between complete detachment and attachment to life.
Now hopefully I will forget about what happened and focus on the suffering civilians.
Lankan media reports that the 'so called' body of VP is going to be buried in Vanni by the government(of sri lanka). No body to claim?
Rift between DMK and Congress over ministerial berths. DMK has decided not to join the ministry. T.R.Balu has made the press announcement.
There are rumours that ADMK has offered to support Congress.
Badrinath, what do you mean by 'cells'?
Even if Tamil Eelam is independent, the people who tried to achieve it, are not alive to see and to live in it.
There won't be happiness there, as the best people have died.
Badri : I do not understand why would VP would take down an entire LTTE leadership with him in so called 'final stand' ? does not make sense.
It is hard to overcome on what happened in Wanni for last few days.
["Badri : I do not understand why would VP would take down an entire LTTE leadership with him in so called 'final stand' ? does not make sense."]
Study most dictators in history. That's what they have all done. "Dictator" is not a bad word, it just means someone who has ultimate authority. All of the dictators in the past did the same thing. In the end they decided for a last stand where everyone would fight and die. Hitler did the same thing. The losers are always made out to be villains, and the winners are the "good guys".
guys stop talking about VP
focus on civilians
after all they are the ones being executed and their organs are being exported
we(tamils) had our fun killing sinhalese
I hope sinhalese govt learned the lesson and treat tamils as equals
my only worry is VP didn't plan a massive suicide attack among some high profile monks, that is something I will miss
I am pretty sure I am not the only one thinking this, so even this will happen soon, when everything goes back to normal :)
'Last stand' still remains a conspiracy theory. Since the event only took place on Monday morning, by Thursday night it is still early days to draw conclusions.
Evidence for all leaders dead is as weak as evidence for all leaders alive. Based in GoSL photos of what appear to be VP, CA and Soosai and TamilNet reports of death of Nadeason and Pulidevan, we can not conclude all leaders are dead.
GoSL has shown most decomposed photos and even questionable one of what appears to be Soosai where there is a medical caste on left hand. There is still no reasonable explanation for missing photos of Col. Bhanu, Col. Luxman, Col. Jenathran or any of the others, whom GoSL claims to have killed on Monday.
Talks of cells and last stand of a dictator are contradictory. Last stand would have been total destruction of all. That means no KP, no cells and no Col. Jeyam or Col. Ram in east.
What I find most interesting is GoSL's refusal to move VP's body to Colombo or display it to international media. They don't even want to bury it, but cremate.
From what happened in last 2 months, i can tell, VP is equally as war criminal as MR and his clan. He put so many innocent civilian lives, his family members, other leaders' families, and civil admin workers in grave danger by sticking there until the last days. US and India behind Norway triggered this treacherous acts by convincing the LTTE leadership to surrender with SLA. If you're newbie to politics, you won't understand how corporate world, and geopolitics work. In my opinion, Norway triple crossed the LTTE. Being said that what's the option LTTE had in last few days when the SLA encircled them within 500m? All the LTTE leadership would be killed in the battle - that's the best thing should have happened in LTTE's and Tamils' perspective.
Typical Tamil mentality folks are still in denial mode.
Being said that no Tamil will forgive Sinhalese for what they did to innocent Tamils in Wanni.
[From what happened in last 2 months, i can tell, VP is equally as war criminal as MR and his clan. He put so many innocent civilian lives, his family members, other leaders' families, and civil admin workers in grave danger by sticking there until the last days. US and India behind Norway triggered this treacherous acts by convincing the LTTE leadership to surrender with SLA. If you're newbie to politics, you won't understand how corporate world, and geopolitics work. In my opinion, Norway triple crossed the LTTE. Being said that what's the option LTTE had in last few days when the SLA encircled them within 500m? All the LTTE leadership would be killed in the battle - that's the best thing should have happened in LTTE's and Tamils' perspective.]
I agree with your comments because if vp would go with his cadres to the jungles when the fall of killinochi and leave the civilians in their place they could come back and fight with slarmy in the help of the people. vp even had a last chance to go back to jungles in the fall of puthukudiyiruppu. He did a great mistake and got the wrong advice and had many traitors. If you compare this theory with Sadam Hussein, world powers involved in this fighting. They tricked ltte to trapped into small place and ended the game. 33 year old ltte was destroyed in 3 months or 3 days. It's hard to believe but we have to accept the fate of LTTE.
The brutal military campaign unleashed by GoSL simply put all the Geneva conventions into ashes. Not only they wanted to destroy LTTE, they also wanted to destroy Wanni people to make a statement.
[What I find most interesting is GoSL's refusal to move VP's body to Colombo or display it to international media. They don't even want to bury it, but cremate.]
This might be another smart idea of world powers that I guess. SL have to leave a suspicion of VP to the Tamil diaspora and to the TN Tamils otherwise violence would spark all over the world.
what do u think of this article
http://www.ilankainet.com/2009/05/blog-post_3135.html
GoSL knows if they take the body to Colombo that, Sinhalese will get mad, some will start to wank.
Remember when they took down Saddam Husseins' statue, some one took the head and starting running with.
Sinhalese might do the same. For them Tamils are terrorists and not humans.
Also Tamils will get angry when they do that.There will be riots
I bet the army kicks VPs' body everyday just for the fun of it.
[What I find most interesting is GoSL's refusal to move VP's body to Colombo or display it to international media. They don't even want to bury it, but cremate]
They simply don't want to glorify VP as great martyr among global Tamils by giving publicity in Colombo. In my opinion, they did right in their perspective to finish off the VP/LTTE picture as soon as possible.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qKP1tij2zvQ/ShUU_rRj8PI/AAAAAAAADXo/GvfLGLiaJ8k/s1600-h/pirabakarans+bodyi2.jpg
The assumption that the LTTE is gone forever also works in our favor. Perhaps, at least for the time being, that might be a good line to maintain.
What thats means is Tamil Diaspora have to redouble their efforts as all responsibility rests on our shoulders.
Secondly, we must also be fiercely independent of the GoSL as we have to negotiate on behalf of our relatives.
My parents in Trinco or sister's family in Jaffna, for example, can not dare to open their mouths to negotiate with GoSL. They can not ask to be allowed to farm our land or use some of our houses, because reply would be death. I am sure that is the case for all Tamils.
We should be careful not to become entangled in the GoSL itself in the way EPDP, Karuna and Anandasangree are.
The absence of LTTE only strengthens the case for an independent Diaspora that negotiates with the GoSL, inclusive of its Tamil speaking 'paramilitary' elements, in the best interest of our relatives.
Ilankainet is operated by elements within Sri Lankan Military Intelligence. Whatever it says are likely to be misleading. Why would it want to tell the truth?
It tries level best to want to appear to be pro-Karuna, but, in fact, it has no connection to him.
Prabhakaran’s entire family dead- Report
[http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=49560]
Could this be true?? I don't think dead VP kept all his family in NFZ, being the hypocrite he is!!
["'Last stand' still remains a conspiracy theory. Since the event only took place on Monday morning, by Thursday night it is still early days to draw conclusions."]
Everything I say is all theories and speculation, so no one please take what I say as anything more than my opinion.
As far as the idea of a last stand, it was actually what Prabhakaran has been telling everyone, but no one actually believed he meant it literally. The "Final Battle" was even broadcast on loudspeakers across Vanni, asking people to come forward to join the final war. Prabhakaran repeatedly said "I will not leave the area". Nadesan continuously said the LTTE will not leave the war zone. I think the last stand was pretty much the standard statement coming out of LTTE for the last six months.
I simply can't imagine the traitors- Karuna,DD/AS- as our Tamil representatives. It will be sickening to see those faces come in coat and suit giving advises how we should run our lives after all their hands are filled with Tamil blood.
We should stick to Sampathan & Co but I seriously doubt that MR would give any solutions to Tamils.
paramilitary are stupid, they wanted to create tamil eelam but their aim was to destroy ltte. they could of worked aside ltte.
["paramilitary are stupid, they wanted to create tamil eelam but their aim was to destroy ltte. they could of worked aside ltte."]
To be fair, LTTE killed all paramilitary from the beginning. There is no option to be paramilitary and also work along side LTTE for a seperate Eelam.
What ended up happening is sincere people who wanted Eelam went to LTTE, with scoundrels and criminal low lifes going to paramilitary (they wouldn't be welcome in LTTE anyway). That's why paramilitary mostly involves in kidnaps, murder and rape of small children, etc. The paramilitaries don't care about Eelam. They are made up of low class criminals with a few leaders to guide them around.
Second guessing doesn't really help now. We may say, "Maybe LTTE shouldn't have fought other Tamil paramilitaries", but we will never know what would have happened if they didn't. RAW was heavily in control of paramilitaries, so they would have used them to assassinate Prabhakaran, and then when one of the paramilitaries became strong they would use another paramilitary to destroy them.
We have to admit that India has been toying with both sides from the beginning. India wants to interfere with Sri Lanka, but doesn't want a group strong enough to form an Eelam. LTTE broke free from their enslavement and thats why India wanted to destroy LTTE.
Badrinath, you could be right about the final war thing. Balraj said this was the final war. I think LTTE understood they were losing, especially because after 2006 more countries called them terrorists mainly by EU countries. They lost more land.
Paramilitary and Pro-Eelam are contradictory terms.
There were early day militant movements like EROS that went with the LTTE for Tamileelam. Suresh's EPRLF and TELO also joined TNA in the pro-Tamileelam lobby.
Paramilitaries are a part of the GoSL. Devanda and Karuna are Ministers in the GoSL. They have to go with government decisions if they want to be alive.
Thus, the important objective for Tamils now is to free detainees at internment camps, demilitarize our homeland and devolve power.
Devolution of power doesn't mean a Tamil minister or a an east style election that is neither free nor fair.
Devolution must be UN supervised granting of autonomy to people, which leads to a UN sponsored 'free and fair' elections.
In order to demand and negotiate this Tamils must remain independent of the GoSL mechanism.
I am sure Karuna does not approve of the rape of our women in the internment camps, but he can't do anything about it because he is a part of the GoSL. He would either ignore it, or worse, find excuses to justify it.
Only a wholly independent Diaspora can being international attention, and action, to the appalling conditions in which our people are detained in the internment camps.
"Prisons under the open sky"
Lindner said many of the refugees were suffering from dehydration and undernourishment, some had gunshot wounds or other injuries and there were thousands of cases of Hepatitis A and chicken pox.
Typhoid too had broken out in some pockets, he said, adding that the last time he witnessed a comparable situation was after the genocide in Ruanda in 1994.
Lindner criticized the supply of food to the camps, saying the distribution of drinking water was hugely insufficient. He also said the government was restricting access to the camps by aid agencies.
Aid group Caritas Internationalis has slammed the government in Colombo for failing to improve conditions in the camps.
Caritas said the Sri Lankan military was patrolling camps in the Vavuniya region in the northeast of the country and refugees were not allowed to leave or have any contact with the outside world.
Its aid workers on the ground had described the camps as "prisons under the open sky," the group said.
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4269695,00.html
I just re-watched the video that shows the bodies of Charles Anthony,Nadesan, Pulidevan and others. Every single one of them has a towel wrapped near their heads, either hiding a head wound, or mopping up blood coming out from the wound. Very clear they were all executed, as Tamilnet said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZraHKgZNSA
The saddest thing is any LTTE video or song you watch showing cadres, you can know everyone of them is dead. They were heroes and extremely brave, but it is sad to know they are all gone.
Bhairav,
Did some of your relatives make it to Vavuniya, bypassing military check points? I am curious how easy it was to "escape" from the area.
I reproduce what Ogre said about VP on May 17 (SLST) or May 18 Est(USA).
Badri, you can speculate few things from this guy, Ogre?-------------------------------------------
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May 18, 2009 10:18 AM
Blogger Ogre said...
Bhairav
I am not here to argue with you. I am a professional man. You are hearing from a man who has witnessed the most brutal warfare known to man in modern times. I have seen what your LTTE does to your people, the horrors committed against a hapless bunch of Tamils by a half Tamil blooded man who claimed to liberate them.
Just like a Grandmasters Chess Match, piece by piece each foot soldier eliminated, gone are the ponies, left are the leaders. They are no more. A badly burned disfigured Prabhakarans Arm now lying in Colombo would be cremated soon. India helped with forensics since they had his DNA.
The facts stand, your leader wept for his life like a 2 year old baby. He begged on his knees and it was a pathetic site. He said he paid Balasingham over 20 million British Pounds to talk for LTTE. But in the end, he could not even save himself. He died a covered under pathetic conditions.
Again this could be my own imagination. Forget this man, go home and make a good life for yourself. Try to be a better man tomorrow. There is one life to live.
May 18, 2009 10:19 AM
He mentions Prabhakaran's burned arm, so obviously the rest of the story is not true, because the final body had no burnt arm. But since his family is involved in the military, he likely heard the rumors coming out from soldiers in the Vanni. Some rumors will be true, and some will not be.
His statement that Anton Balasingham was paid 20 million pounds is ridiculous to me. He may have been maintained at LTTE expense, but there was no need to pay him or any other LTTE member a huge lump some of money to serve their country. So again his statement is false, as Prabhakaran would never say on his death bed that "I paid 20 million pounds to Anton Balasingham".
I expect within a few years the real information will be leaked by low level soldiers who witnessed these things and participated in the killings.
I guess 20m pounds used to lobby foreign governments in favor of LTTE if what he said was right.
Lo1! What would Balasingham have done with that much money? He lived in a modest rented flat and died. He doesn't even have any children to make up stories about daughter in Ireland or son in Norway.
Bhairav, I understand that you are hysterical, but some of your latest posts and re-posts are just pathetic.
GoSL also knows the current mental state of Tamils, which is why it is giving random and at times contradictory stories.
If VP was in GoSL custody as early as Monday morning, why was the burnt ambulance story floated about? They are trying to cause confusion amongst us.
Best thing is to spend our energy in getting people released from the internment camps and Sinhalese troops withdrawn from our villages. They are the things GoSL does not want us to do.
my few relatives actually made it though. On the 20th May. They were the last ones to make it. The rest are dead dead.
Indians are now attempting to mislead and save GoSL by giving the "resettlement" within six months story.
Same guys visited in Feb. and said 70, 000 people were in Mulaithevu. Now we know there were four times as many.
didn't mean to write 'dead' twice
Prabhakaran made every tamil including himself from HERO to ZERO. I had in over confidence of LTTE before and lost all the confidence now. When the SLarmy found the mass weapons and dead bodies of LTTE, we used to say it was lie but I realize everything is true. Pro LTTE medias should come to publish Prabha and other leaders' deads because we have to honour them in the right way. We cannot ignore it. We have to know that 20000 plus maveerars were honoured by VP and the Tamils every year and we have to do the samething for VP as well.
SuthaS,
Of course, every sacrifice must be acknowledged and respected.
However, I don't think you understand the difficulty of getting confirmation of someone's death or the difficulty for families when someone is confirmed as dead when they may actually be alive.
How is any media meant to know if Col. Bhanu, for example, is dead? They have no info from LTTE and GoSL is notorious for net-kills. Just look at the case of Chellaiyan; he was killed every year for past few years.
We are overlooking the fact that the battle was on Monday morning, much less than a week ago.
[Did some of your relatives make it to Vavuniya, bypassing military check points? I am curious how easy it was to "escape" from the area.]
Few relatives were injured, so they were taken by ICRC ship for treatment in Feb or March. Few others were part of that 40,000 people went into government controlled area 3 or 4 weeks back.
Of remaining relatives until the last day, 3 were killed on May 15 or 16. They do not want to escape into government controlled area since one of my relatives had 2 daughters, aged 15 and 16, so they worried that SLA can sexually assault their daughters, so they decided to say in the safe zone. When everyone started to run into govern controlled area on the last day, they were also part of that group. Unfortunately, 3 of them were killed on the spot by artillery or aerial bombardment. According to them, LTTE prevented people going into SLA zone earlier.
male - 36 years old
female - 28 years old
female - 65 years old
Peter,
Sorry, I understand it now..
On Sri Lanka, IMF Said Ready to Lend, Dodges Ethnic Cleansing, Where Are Obama, UK?
Byline: Matthew Russell Lee of Inner City Press at the UN: News Analysis
UNITED NATIONS, May 20 – With the Red Cross blocked from access in Sri Lanka to the wounded and dying, with NGOs increasingly barred from the UN-financed camps for IDPs, in Washington the International Monetary Fund said Thursday that it looks forward to presenting for approval to its Board Sri Lanka's request for a $1.9 billion loan.
The statement was made by the IMF's director of external relations Caroline Atkinson. Inner City Press online asked a follow-up during the Fund's biweekly press briefing, which Ms. Atkinson re-stated: please state whether as the Sri Lankan government says the proceeds of any IMF loan would support re-housing in the north, which some would described as ethnic cleansing?
The IMF's Ms. Atkinson responded, “Perhaps it's just helpful to clarify that when the IMF lends, it is not for specific projects. We lend to support a country's finances. We make a loan to the Central Bank to support reserves. Any other question?”
http://www.innercitypress.com/imf4srilanka052109.html
women are being raped in Sri Lankan camps set up for Tamils who have fled the country’s war zone
sky video
http://www.sibernews.com/200905213031.html
http://www.sibernews.com/200905213028.html
Tamils’ demand for rights will now be stronger than ever
Posted on Thursday, May 21, 2009
The Tamils’ demands for proper democratic representation and equal rights to the Sinhalese majority will not have been washed away by the blood spilt in the recent fighting. Indeed it is likely they will now be stronger than ever, fuelled by the horrors they have witnessed.
For weeks the world has watched almost powerlessly as the Sri Lankan government pushed on with its vicious military campaign with scant regard for Tamil civilians.
Journalists demanded access to the war zone to verify what was happening but were denied. Aid agencies pleaded for the chance to offer humanitarian assistance to the civilians but were refused. The UN, the UK and just about every other international organisation that demanded a ceasefire was rebuffed.
Meanwhile, the Sri Lankan military established holding camps for refugees, where reports emerge of appalling conditions verging on those in concentration camps. A quarter of a million Tamils remain behind barbed wire fences.
Unless the Sri Lankan government rapidly shows signs that it is recognising its responsibilities as a member of the UN and the Commonwealth, this is not a country to which we should send cricket teams nor encourage tourists to visit.
Sri Lankan minister admits army killed civilians http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5362832/Sri-Lankan-minister-admits-army-killed-civilians.html
IMF: In "Advanced" Talks On Sri Lanka Economic Bailout
Thursday May 21st, 2009 / 18h19
WASHINGTON (AFP)--The International Monetary Fund said Thursday it was in "advanced" talks with war-battered Sri Lanka on an economic bailout program, despite reservations expressed by Washington.
Following Sri Lanka's victory this week over the Tamil Tiger rebels after a long civil war, the IMF said it looked forward to "improvements" in the country, where about 250,000 civilians who poured out of the war zone are still detained in temporary shelters.
"We are at an advanced stage in the discussions with the authorities. We do not have a definitive schedule executive board but we look forward to having a program brought to the board for approval in the coming weeks," IMF spokeswoman Caroline Atkinson told reporters in Washington.
"We have been discussing with the Sri Lankan authorities a normal stand-by arrangement, which we believe is appropriate given the nature of the problems and the need for an adjustment and for sufficient financing," she said.
Bhairav said...
From what happened in last 2 months, i can tell, VP is equally as war criminal as MR and his clan. He put so many innocent civilian lives, his family members, other leaders' families, and civil admin workers in grave danger by sticking there until the last days.
WHEN THE TIGERS WERE SUCCESSFUL..WINNNING THE BATTLE...
WE WERE PROUD AND SUPPORTIVE OF THEM...GLORIFY THEM...
AS THEY SEEM TO BE WEAK NOW AND LOST THE BATTLE...
THE SAME PEOPLE CRITICISE AND CONDEMN THEIR ACTIONS NOW...
VP VICTORY UPTO NOW IS ITSELF IS A GREAT SUCCESS...
SOMEONE WHO CANT BE BOUGHT BY MONEY..DETERMINED TO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM OF TAMIL...
I DOUBT ANYONE ONE ELSE COULD HAVE LASTED SO LONG FIGHTING WITH A COUNTRY'S ARMY WHICH IS LARGER AND HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF AIRFORCE..AND THE FUNDS, WEAPON FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES..
PEOPLE WITH THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE WOULD EVENTUALLY END UP WITH THE SAME PATH OF KARUNA...
WITHOUT TIGERS THE MOST OF TAMIL POPULATION WOULD HAVE BEEN WIPED OUT A LONG TIME BACK...
[WHEN THE TIGERS WERE SUCCESSFUL..WINNNING THE BATTLE...]
[WE WERE PROUD AND SUPPORTIVE OF THEM...GLORIFY THEM...]
[AS THEY SEEM TO BE WEAK NOW AND LOST THE BATTLE...]
m.q.k, I agree with you 100%.
Tigers made our voices be heard.
[WHEN THE TIGERS WERE SUCCESSFUL..WINNNING THE BATTLE... ]
We were supporting the Tigers for last two years, even though they were suffering defeats after defeats from Mavilaru to PTK. Did we complain? Every time they lost a battle, we would say, oh yes, no worries, they will come back. That's the story for last 2 years. When you look at the civilian catastrophe in last few weeks, you will realize the truth. We all understand that enemy is evil and ruthless but you have to blame yourself for the position you gave to this enemy who was dreaming for this favorable opportunity for years. In the end, what we have? Where we stand at?
mgk,
Well said.
Yes, something has gone wrong somewhere.
But that should not be the reason, to play the blaming game now...
They cannot fight agaisnt the world, against all all odds..
One question: Have we all done enough to get the Eelam on a mouse click ?
This is a very critical period for Tamils.
Let us do our little best, and leave the time to time....
It appears that tigers underestimated the resolve of Sinhalese in finishing the war.
May be it is coz of the fact that everytime tigers were able to stop SLA from finishing them in all previous wars.
So this time too they thought they will be bailed out by Norway, USA , India.
But it did not happen unfortunately & tigers had to pay a very heavy price. It will not be easy for tamils to wage another military war against Srilanka within next 30 yrs or so.
Ok guys, it is taking emotional toll on all our lives. Keep what you have to do to protect the remaining Wanni people in these slave camps.
I will quit blogging for next few weeks to avoid the current emotional stress becoming worse.
["According to them, LTTE prevented people going into SLA zone earlier."]
I think we all knew that was true, but just ignored it and kept quiet because it was a difficult time and we didn't want to make it worse for them. The LTTE did use these people as a type of human shield, and it cost a lot of innocent lives. Bad strategies all around. Thats why the claim of surrendering in the end to protect the civilians can't be accepted. They forced most of the civilians to be in danger for six months, and then on the last day when no one is left they want to surrender to protect these civilians - 90% of whom had already gone to the Sri Lankan army's side.
We can give a lot of excuses as to why the people were not allowed to go to Sri Lankan controlled area, but it will just be to cover the truth that people were not allowed to move freely by either side. Going over to the Sri Lankan army was not a sign that they liked the army. It was the only place not being bombed. You can't blame them for wanting to be safe.
On the other side, the LTTE felt their people should not abandon them in their final battle. There will be mixed feelings about this on both sides. When the emotion is high, I also may think the people should have stood by the LTTE, but then the situation was pure hell and no one should have to go through that. Its easy to make sacrifices for others when I am sitting comfortably in a safe place.
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