Puligal Today: First pictures of the devastated war zone in Sri Lanka

Saturday, May 23, 2009

First pictures of the devastated war zone in Sri Lanka

The following are photographs taken by reporters as they flew over the final war zone in Sri Lanka in a helicopter. No one has been allowed into this area since the final battle. There are reports that tens of thousands of wounded civilians were killed on the final three days of fighting. The Sri Lankan government has since cremated all bodies, and dumped the ashes into the sea.

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aKa said...: sri lanka = military state

only job for sinhala is joining the army; May 26, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Sacktheish said...: two jobs for Sinhalese:

one is army

two is prostitution; May 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Peter said...: ashokkumar2103,

The answer to your question was posted by a banda on DW a few days ago:

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DefenceWire,

We still have many battles to fight.

I have a short plan to silence the diaspora and make sure they never try to recreate the LTTE are restart the war.

1. We must make them believe that VP and all other leaders surrendered, pleaded for their lives and were killed. This will stop Diaspora from thinking of them as martyrs and try to fight in their memory.

2. We must release intelligence informations saying KP planned all this and he is on our side. This will stop them from giving money to KP. All of KP's henchmen collecting money will look like they are doing it for themselves.

That we must do urgently to stop all this nonsense like the Westminster protest which even had several people yesterday when I drove past.

War on the ground is over but war elsewhere has started. So DefenceWire and all patriots please think and act immediately.

May 24, 2009 4:16 PM

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If we do this, we will ADD FUEL to the "war crimes" FIRE and cause additional trouble for the GOSL.

WE SHOULD NOT DO ANY SUCH THING!.

May 24, 2009 4:57 PM

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There are ways of doing this without making this official. We can post news in Tamil newspapers, TV and radio we have in SL.

Yesterday they had a big burial thing in Westminster. All the people were there like their birthday they have in November. I fear they will glorify the dead as martyrs.

I think it is important to make sure no one ever buys into what these guys fought for. Especially the younger generation. War crimes can't do anything to SL. You know if US wants to hammer us it will do with whatever excuse. If it doesn't it won't. So we don't need to worry about it that much.

May 24, 2009 5:02 PM; May 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM
aKa said...: media freedom in Sri lanka

The Sri Lankan government just seized my camera for trying to take pics in hospital packed with war-injured children

Camera returned, no pics

(Doug Saunders - European Bureau Chief, The Globe and Mail)

http://twitter.com/DougSaunders; May 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Malin said...: Guys did you hear what the last speaker had to say... :); May 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM
aKa said...: malin

fuck off to defence shit wire

UN rights chief calls for Sri Lanka probe

UN human rights chief Navi Pillay on Tuesday called for an international investigation into attacks on civilians during the final stages of the civil war in Sri Lanka; May 26, 2009 at 12:13 PM
tn thamilz said...: Anyone know what was the draft resolution adopted by UN HR at the end? I couldn't connect to the webcast.; May 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Malin said...: Double-O-Seven said...
I just want to point out that this is NOT a vote. Rather, my observations based on what they say.

Those who are against are supporting a resolution by the Czech Republic on behalf of EU. The others support the resolution by Cuba on behalf of the Non Aligned Moment (NAM) or by Pakistan on behalf of OIC(?).

Cuba (For NAM))
Brazil (Against?)
Malaysia (For)
UK (Against NAM))
Philippines (For)
Argentina (Against)
Indonesia (For)
Slovenia (Against)
Japan (Intent not clear)
France (Against)
Mexico (Against)
Ghana (For)
Italy (Against)
Nicaragua (For)
Saudi Arabia (For)
South Africa (For)
Double-O-Seven said...
I just want to point out that this is NOT a vote. Rather, my observations based on what they say.

Those who are against are supporting a resolution by the Czech Republic on behalf of EU. The others support the resolution by Cuba on behalf of the Non Aligned Moment (NAM) or by Pakistan on behalf of OIC(?).

Cuba (For NAM))
Brazil (Against?)
Malaysia (For)
UK (Against NAM))
Philippines (For)
Argentina (Against)
Indonesia (For)
Slovenia (Against)
Japan (Intent not clear)
France (Against)
Mexico (Against)
Ghana (For)
Italy (Against)
Nicaragua (For)
Saudi Arabia (For)
South Africa (For); May 26, 2009 at 12:24 PM
aKa said...: [tn thamilz

Anyone know what was the draft resolution adopted by UN HR at the end? I couldn't connect to the webcast
]

day 1 is over

day 2 is tomorrow

10 a.m swiss time; May 26, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Veeran said...: What is the meaning for this Vote when anyway no action will be taken ?; May 26, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Peter said...: No action will be taken at the UN.

But we should be looking to isolate the moda land from the West.

Given more than 2/3rd of its exports are to the West, moda land's economy can then be collapsed.

UN is full of useless countries like Ghana; friendship with which offer little rewards beyond vindication.

Sudan and Iran can survive Western onslaught because they have oil. Sri Lanka will have to bow to the West, sooner or later.; May 26, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Veeran said...: [Sudan and Iran can survive Western onslaught because they have oil. Sri Lanka will have to bow to the West, sooner or later. ]

The First Acid test for USA will be the loan approval of IMF which could come up in few weeks from now.

If USA blinks & decides to give the IMF loan, then it is all over.

But Economic Sanctions by West alone will not give any Political Solution by Srilanka. What is needed is more Pressure by India to implement the 13th amendment in merging North & east first which i see is not happening at all.; May 26, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Veeran said...: Gayan,

[The west only wants to control SL so they can have an upper hand at the maritime power battle between Asia,Russia and EU,USA!!
]

This is TOTAL BS. Sethu canal will make sure that Indian ocean always remains in hands of INDIA.

ur country will have to depend only on pedophiles & sex tourism revenue & has no importance watsoever to west strategically.; May 26, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Anonymous said...: Peter or Freedom Fighter

Why can't something like 'Interim Self Governing Authority' or 'Provisional Institutions of Self-Government' be proposed in Sri Lanka.; May 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Malin said...: One small problem Thileepan.. you tamils have too few numbers for that. The current tamil population in sri lanka is around 12%+ of the total population and far too low number to govern the area of land you ask for..

LTTE had greatest chance to get federal solution from CBK but now realistcally tamils will get certern self governance, but not what you dream off.; May 26, 2009 at 3:07 PM
tn thamilz said...: Thileepan,

For the tamils in SL, following should be the priority for now.

1. Resettle the families living in IDP camps back to their home.
2. Accept Indian state model solution by merging N-E. Many incorrectly think Indian state model is toothless. Look at every state in India and how they are happy in their "space".
3. Remove the military camps in N-E and put a credible police force with tamils in it.
4. Build up a political structure to govern themself like the way tamils in TN govern themself.

To make the above possible, you need to work with IC including(particularly) India.; May 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Anonymous said...: What about Government-In-Exile?; May 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Peter said...: tn thamilz,

Indian model works there because of the number of states.

Imagine there is one large state, which on its own could elect central government, and there is a smaller Tamil Nadu state.

Do you think the model would have worked? For argument's sake, say Karnataka on its own could elect Central government. If people from that state decided to colonize land in TN (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/killings-and-torture-drive-out-tamils-aid-workers-20090526-bm6o.html), do you think Central Government would intervene? Given that the ruling party would be Kannada and it would risk losing majority of votes if it acted against them.

Attempts to create provinces within Sinhala areas, to dress up the 'solution' as Indian model, ended up being a total waste of money. Modern history says Sinhalese vote for Sinhalese parties which attempt to outbid each other on who can most subjugate the Tamils.

You are a rational person. I hope you would give a considered answer.; May 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Peter said...: Thileepan,

I think the challenge now is to bring all Diaspora organization under one umbrella with a single agenda.

To be effective, the Diaspora must remain outside of GoSL's sphere of influence.

As an independent advocacy group, using shoots of militancy back home as cause of expedition, Diaspora ought to keep the ball rolling with the IC.

In my opinion, current priorities are threefold:

1. UN should take responsibility to internment camps; thereby, converting them to genuine IDP camps.

2. All areas, including so called 'high security zone', must be demilitarized, allowing unhindered access for people to their privately owned land and properties.

3. Power devolution that allows people to decide how and by whom they want to be governed.

I think all three could be done simultaneously and progressively.

Most importantly, we are not at loggerheads with the IC on the above three. IC is promoting a theoretical'reconciliation'. What I've suggest above are practical processes that allow implementation of 'reconciliation'.; May 26, 2009 at 3:54 PM
tn thamilz said...: >> If people from that state decided to colonize land in TN

Peter, the main concern for all eelam tamils are the above quoted line. That is the root cause of the past 60 years issue and made SL a hell hole for everyone. From my understanding, Indian state have sole rights to the lands within it's boundaries. That is why I proposed that solution. I might be wrong however (as I am not well versed in fine prints of state power). It is better for everyone in sl to go for a compromised solution to have a lasting peace. I know there will be die-hard from both side who would like to see the extream in both side.

IC seems to be making the right noise in the current HR meeting. Let us hope that they will stay on course and bring a lasting peace.; May 26, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Anonymous said...: thanks Peter for the reply, I get you...; May 26, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Peter said...: tn thamilz,

That's just one of several issues Tamils have to face. I hope you got the basic gist as to why many Tamils say Indian model will not work in the Eelam scenario.

The example I have above was of Trincomalee, which is in the Eastern provincial government. Pilliyan can speak against it, but if he is firm, he or his administration will be dismissed by the central government which is sponsoring the colonization to begin with.

In India, you have many states that balance out each other's interests. A Sinhala central government will always act in the interests of the Sinhala state. Natural solution is to vest less power in the central government, for minority interests to be safeguarded.

Of course, we need proper devolution, but, in my opinion, Indian model is as bad as no 'solution' at all.; May 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: TNA MP who was in the war zone till last day is in police custody and cannot say anything. He may mysteriously die of old age, heart attack or some other disease:

["Now Mr.Kanagaretnam is being detained by the Crime Intelligence Unit in Colombo, sources said."]; May 26, 2009 at 7:27 PM
abc said...: Badri, even if TNA MP says something substantial against GoSL, there won't be any action. All world is behind this Tamil genocide. You do not need to look further than Tamilnadu.; May 26, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Bhairav said...: Badri, even if TNA MP says something substantial against GoSL, there won't be any action. All world is behind this Tamil genocide. You do not need to look further than Tamilnadu.; May 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Bhairav said...: Badri, you see any solutions for Tamils in near future?; May 26, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Malin said...: Why does Bhairav has two handles "abc"..

???; May 26, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["Badri, even if TNA MP says something substantial against GoSL, there won't be any action. All world is behind this Tamil genocide. You do not need to look further than Tamilnadu."]

I was speaking more in regards to him being the last witness in the war zone. He will know if some people surrendered and were murdered, if there will disabled cadres killed there, if Prabhakaran was keeping a beard till the last day, etc. As one of the last witnesses his future testimony is vital, but the government will not let him speak freely. He may die before being released.; May 26, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: After looking at the closeup of the wound again, my opinion is it definitely is not a bullet wound. The flesh and skull is bent inward as if an axe hit the spot. If it was a bullet passing from the front to back (the line of the wound) the skull would not be bent in in that manner.; May 26, 2009 at 11:36 PM
abc said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; May 26, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Bhairav said...: [The flesh and skull is bent inward as if an axe hit the spot. If it was a bullet passing from the front to back (the line of the wound) the skull would not be bent in in that manner.]

If it is true, then they killed his family in front of him as one poster mentioned in DW earlier. Let the truth comes out, other than going through depressing details. Regardless of the call from third party, I can't imagine why he handed over himself and his family to SLA.; May 26, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Bhairav said...: Remember, Karuna showed his face a bit by looking at the VP's body, the wound clearly made him to make face, not that he showed some concern for death of VP.; May 26, 2009 at 11:51 PM
Bhairav said...: Lets treat the MR,GR and SF same way. Comes around and goes around.; May 26, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Veeran said...: [The flesh and skull is bent inward as if an axe hit the spot. If it was a bullet passing from the front to back (the line of the wound) the skull would not be bent in in that manner ]

It seems VP was most Stupid in giving up himself or was he lured into a trap by Mahinda that he will be rehabiliated since it was Prabha who placed Mahinda in the throne ?; May 27, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Bhairav said...: Solving the mystery around KP can shed some lights on our doubts. Why he advocates Tamils to go for political solution through all party system? It is really fishy here.; May 27, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Malin said...: GR and SF already got your treatment they treated back VP with even more hospitality...

You very true what goes around comes around. Best example LTTE Leadership...

LOL :).. still you havent learned. there is rule if you try to kill somebody dont miss the target.. Hak hak hak..... poor beggers..; May 27, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: The Hindu dated 27th:

Accounts pieced together from Mr. Aryanathan and others from the last batch of refugees reveal that the Tigers did indeed spread an informal message among the civilians under their custody on May 10 that it was all over for them and the civilians should move to the government-controlled areas. “On May 11, we saw the Tigers dismantling their sentry points and abandoning their defence posts. Perhaps, they wanted to demonstrate practically to us that they meant what they told us. Having lost all their men and weaponry, the Tigers were perhaps left with no choice,” said another refugee.; May 27, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Bhairav said...: [said another refugee.]

Another refugee? no name?; May 27, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Bhairav,

No name is given. The report says that Aryanathan was one of the two in the tent who could converse in English and became the narrator of the gory tales of the rest.; May 27, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Bhairav said...: When did Hindu say any truth about our struggles? They have been mouth piece of GoSL, and they will continue to do so.

Ashok, stop mentioning Hindu here.; May 27, 2009 at 12:23 AM
Bhairav said...: Ashok, by mentioning "another refugee" itself is very offensive term.; May 27, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Bhairav,

It is true. I quoted this report because it says that Tigers informed civilians to move to government controlled areas on 10th itself.

If it is correct, it is a significant information. I just wanted others to take note of it.; May 27, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Veeran said...: Can anyone confirm the status of Pottu Amman, whether he is killed or alive ?

His status will be holding the key to various turns & twists to the situation.; May 27, 2009 at 1:12 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["Can anyone confirm the status of Pottu Amman, whether he is killed or alive ?"]

He has been reported dead and identified by Sri Lankan government, but no body was shown. Subsequently some reports say he is dead but not yet identified. The same is the case with Prabhakaran's children. First they were announced as dead and identified, then changed to dead and not identified, and finally changed to status of youngest son unknown.

The reason for saying this about the children is obvious. They want the sinhalese to know they "punished" them and killed their children, but they don't want to be blamed for doing such a terrible crime as killing children. So they changed their statement to "bodies not found".

As far as Poddu Amman, unfortunately the most probably thing is he is in custody being tortured to reveal the locations of other groups in South. That is why no body has been shown. But his fate is already decided, because the Sri Lankan government has already announced him being confirmed dead. What does that mean? It means when they are done using him, they will just kill him and dispose of the body without telling anyone.

The only person who really had intelligence information they needed was Pottu Amman. Prabhakaran didn't have any usable intelligence for the Sri Lankan government. Pottu Amman on the the other hand has important information on possible suicide bombers in the South.; May 27, 2009 at 1:56 AM
MrBrown said...: ''As far as Poddu Amman, unfortunately the most probably thing is he is in custody being tortured to reveal the locations of other groups in South. That is why no body has been shown. But his fate is already decided, because the Sri Lankan government has already announced him being confirmed dead. What does that mean? It means when they are done using him, they will just kill him and dispose of the body without telling anyone.''

Badri.. If u say that pottu still in custody.. do u still beleive VP& co surrendered to SLA? which is absolutely hard to beleive for many..; May 27, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Veeran said...: [If u say that pottu still in custody.. do u still beleive VP& co surrendered to SLA? which is absolutely hard to beleive for many ]

The More the Pictures come out of SLA, the more the fingers are pointing to that direction.; May 27, 2009 at 2:24 AM
FreedomFighter said...: Some observation of the new picture - :

-this body looks younger then Praba.
-head is axed or hit to damaged
-There are strange red marks on hands in the second picture.
-can see a watch on hand in 1st picture not in 2nd; May 27, 2009 at 3:23 AM
MrBrown said...: hmmm According to many Diaspora VP still alive..Not only diaspora..Many LTTE carders out side Sri Lanka also confused..KP himself doesn't have 100% prove to say VP is no more..KP is blabbering in his interviews..Aljazeera says VP dead on tuesday (which is 19th of May) quoating KP..and BBC says 17th of May ( which is sunday)..I am not sure whther KP is confused or media.. how ever I think VP is no more..I feel like KP is misleading some thing here..; May 27, 2009 at 3:39 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Has anyone heard about 'Soosai Raj?'. His body structure is similar to that of Prabhakaran and he was under army custody according to some reports.

Even Anita Pratap in 'The Week' talks about a lookalike 'double' of Prabhakaran.; May 27, 2009 at 3:56 AM
MrBrown said...: ''Has anyone heard about 'Soosai Raj?'. His body structure is similar to that of Prabhakaran and he was under army custody according to some reports.''
I dont have any idea about names.. I heard there were 2-3 people in Vanni who have similar body structure of VP.. any way VP cant bring anything good to Tamil people any more..its better to make VP dead than alive unless if he comes and blow whole south rather than exploding few claymore which kills 2 SLA inreturn 20 Tamils disappears.; May 27, 2009 at 4:05 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["Badri.. If u say that pottu still in custody.. do u still beleive VP& co surrendered to SLA? which is absolutely hard to beleive for many.."]

From the beginning I believed they were executed, either after surrendering or being captured. Everything points to that. Nadesan may have been mislead that a negotiation and political settlement would be given if they surrender.

Everything will come out once the Vanni IDPs eventually get out and witnesses are able to speak. Also Sri Lankan soldiers involved will eventually start telling people what they did.; May 27, 2009 at 4:29 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["Has anyone heard about 'Soosai Raj?'. His body structure is similar to that of Prabhakaran and he was under army custody according to some reports."]

The fact that his entire family was killed pretty much rules out a body double. Plus all leadership pretty much dead as well. A body double would only be useful if other people survived. The plan could not be "let family and everyone else die, but for me I will show a body double and escape".; May 27, 2009 at 4:34 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["Even Anita Pratap in 'The Week' talks about a lookalike 'double' of Prabhakaran."]

People like Anita Pratap just tried to live off of their fame from the 80's. She really had no more information about LTTE than anyone else, even much less than any of us here. Her only claim to fame was an interview she conducted with Prabhakaran in 80's, other than that she isn't up to date on the situation and has no ground contacts.

The same is the case with the stupid IPKF generals like that Hariharan. They just try to live off of the fame from their old connection, but they have no idea of current ground realities. Hariharan kept saying how the jungles in the no fire zone are so thick and impenetrable, but there were no jungles there in reality. If anyone read what he wrote, it was obvious he had no clue and was just giving his opinion based on the fact that he led a failed IPKF mission 20 years ago.; May 27, 2009 at 4:38 AM
MrBrown said...: ''The fact that his entire family was killed pretty much rules out a body double. Plus all leadership pretty much dead as well. A body double would only be useful if other people survived. The plan could not be "let family and everyone else die, but for me I will show a body double and escape". ''
I strongly disagree with you regaridng VP's family sentiment.. U may think Vp lives with family and meet them every day or so..He meets them like every one else does in LTTE.. there is no important for family in LTTE's agenda..ur argument that by holding charles antony, they can bargain anything with VP is really childish..I am sure VP's family was treated like every one else in the LTTE's family. if not so How VP let their children to join LTTE and fight for the course..I dont say VP is alive now.. I am sure there is a strong possiblity for VP to be alive even after his family is dead.; May 27, 2009 at 4:44 AM
Sacktheish said...: karuna said he doubted it was VP; May 27, 2009 at 4:47 AM
Sacktheish said...: the fact people are not believing VP is dead is because long time LTTE had less resources and survived but now LTTE had a lot resources, people think it is harder to kill VP.; May 27, 2009 at 4:51 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["karuna said he doubted it was VP"]

Except for the fact that in every single television and newspaper interview he said he guarantees it is Prabhakaran. Can we neglect all of those statements of his and instead go by a rumor that he may have said the opposite.; May 27, 2009 at 4:52 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["the fact people are not believing VP is dead is because long time LTTE had less resources and survived but now LTTE had a lot resources, people think it is harder to kill VP."]

It would have been impossible to kill VP and any of his leaders if they wanted to avoid it. For some reason they chose to trap themselves into a tiny beach area and not try to escape.; May 27, 2009 at 4:55 AM
Sacktheish said...: This is where I got Karuna's statement:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8068982.stm; May 27, 2009 at 5:07 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: That's a poorly worded sentence. It actually says "one tamil parliamentarian", it isn't referring to Karuna:

"Even before the cremation was announced, and despite the body being publicly identified by LTTE defector and minister Vinayagamurthy Muralitharan ("Colonel Karuna"), one Tamil parliamentarian was saying he doubted it was really Prabhakaran."

The tamil MP is a different person from Karuna.; May 27, 2009 at 5:20 AM
Sacktheish said...: my bad, i was reading to fast. :); May 27, 2009 at 5:42 AM
Peter said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; May 27, 2009 at 6:00 AM
Peter said...: [Except for the fact that in every single television and newspaper interview he said he guarantees it is Prabhakaran. Can we neglect all of those statements of his and instead go by a rumor that he may have said the opposite.]

Badri,

Can we expect Karuna to say otherwise? I am not saying that he is not telling the truth, but he only has option to give one answer.[From the beginning I believed they were executed, either after surrendering or being captured. Everything points to that. Nadesan may have been mislead that a negotiation and political settlement would be given if they surrender]

Bloated face, as shown initially, with deep wounds to the head still baffles me. Even the only docs I've contacted say that the head injuries were inflicted around a day after death.; May 27, 2009 at 6:01 AM
Peter said...: Karuna's real assessment will spill through his wife; that will take some time.; May 27, 2009 at 6:03 AM
Sacktheish said...: does karuna's whole family live in london or sri lanka; May 27, 2009 at 6:08 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Then they all must have decided to fight till the end and die as martyrs as Fr. Jagath Kasper wrote almost a month back in Nakkeran quoting Prabhakaran's lecture to his commanders.

Only political wing leaders like Nadesan must have been left behind to negoitiate and take care of remaining civilians and injured.

LTTE military commanders would have never even thought of surrendering.

But some of them could have been captured during the fight.

KP might have got an earlier information that Prabhakaran had escaped during the encounter but later he could have been caught or killed.

But how KP got the confirmation of VP's death?

Why remaining LTTE and TNA members and TN leaders deny the death?

Why KP is talking only about political solution?

Why Nedumaran says that guerilla warfare will continue after regrouping?

Nedumaran and Vaiko have proper addresses and leading political persoanlities in TN. Can they get away by telling a big lie now?

Is it all only for inheriting the LTTE's fortunes?

What is the role of intelligence agencies in the whole drama?

Who is speaking the truth?; May 27, 2009 at 6:18 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Only one thing is difficult to digest. If Prabhakaran had decided to fight till the end and die with all his commanders, it means that he had come to the conclusion that it was not possible for him anymore to continue military conflict successfully to protect his people.

If he had thought otherwise, he would have escaped from the NFZ much earlier.

If Prabhakaran after three decades of fight had decided so, is it possible to for any another leader to emerge soon to carry on further on the same path?; May 27, 2009 at 6:32 AM
Peter said...: ashokkumar2103,

I think it is a case of keeping all doors open.

In deed, in my opinion, the initial reaction of Pathivu and Sankathi, both official websites, of KP's statement was unwarranted. Offending articles have now been removed.

As the BBC reported today:

"One is Mr Padmanathan's approach - to acknowledge the death and continue some form of struggle for Tamil rights - according to his interview, within a democratic framework.

"The other - aired on tamilnet.com - is not to acknowledge that Prabhakaran was killed by the Sri Lankan military, and to perpetuate the idea that he is somehow invincible.

"The question, then, would be which will hold sway." It goes on:

"Given his seniority, his acknowledgement of Prabhakaran's death might in due course take a firmer hold.

"So, too, might his message of giving up violence."Conclusion is that many Tamils are willing to give KP's diplomacy approach a chance.

For KP top maintain that, without violent elements taking over, he needs to be able to show results.

Come next Heroes' Day, if 300, 000 people are in internment camps, if a 3rd of Tincro, Jaffna, Batti, Amaparai and entire Vanni are held out of bounds of civilians, then, KP might find it difficult to hold sway.

In my opinion, Tamils are doing the right thing by being diplomatic, but also, at the same time, evolving a firm 'threat' of action.; May 27, 2009 at 6:37 AM
Roy Muller said...: As a gesture of our sorrow, for the dead Tamil civilians( mercilessly slaughted by Sinhala terrorists) in Wanni, I suggest all Tamils (and non Tamil sympathisers) observe a 1 year mourning. Abstain from celebrating all festivals etc and if possible wear a black arm band; May 27, 2009 at 6:54 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Peter,

What happened to the various military divisions of LTTE like 'Charles Antony Kavasa padai ani'...etc..

We have no information that all of them have been wiped out.

Earlier report was that many of them had been dispersed across north and east as small groups and would regroup when required.

Lots of weaponry were also supposed to have been stored in safe hideouts for future use.

Vasanthan Perumal in a talk show in Doordharshan had said that around 500 odd hardcore Tigers remain in various parts of the north and east.

Do you have any information regarding the military strength of LTTE still in tact?; May 27, 2009 at 6:58 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Peter,

What happened to the various military divisions of LTTE like 'Charles Antony Kavasa padai ani'...etc..

We have no information that all of them have been wiped out.

Earlier report was that many of them had been dispersed across north and east as small groups and would regroup when required.

Lots of weaponry were also supposed to have been stored in safe hideouts for future use.

Vasanthan Perumal in a talk show in Doordharshan had said that around 500 odd hardcore Tigers remain in various parts of the north and east.

Do you have any information regarding the military strength of LTTE still in tact?; May 27, 2009 at 6:59 AM
MrBrown said...: I am really angry with VP...well he may be brave and bold..but not better tactician.. what all he did was fighting for more than 30 yrs which killed more than 100,000 innocent Tamil civilians and more 40,000 Cardres..and finally put all vanni civilians inside razor wire. ..what a pathetic..Do we still need VP..and again Kp to lead us?; May 27, 2009 at 7:02 AM
Sacktheish said...: MrBrown,

VP did something, what have you done. We just go on this blog and talk politics and say what should be done.

When LTTE was strong there was less civilian deaths, but when it became weak more civilians died.

When LTTE was there the SLA was targeting them and not the civilians. This shows LTTE were protecting them.; May 27, 2009 at 7:16 AM
MrBrown said...: ''Do you have any information regarding the military strength of LTTE still in tact? ''

Please dont say that still they are capable of carrying out attacks which may cause another 20,000 tamil disappears.:-(; May 27, 2009 at 7:24 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["Then they all must have decided to fight till the end and die as martyrs as Fr. Jagath Kasper wrote almost a month back in Nakkeran quoting Prabhakaran's lecture to his commanders."]

I think that was the plan, but some things may have gone wrong near the end. From the beginning they were saying it was the final war and no one would leave the area to escape. So it looks like everyone planned to die as martyrs. I don't think that was a good plan as far as the long term struggle goes.

As to what may have gone wrong, I speculated that it had to do with their family members. They could easily take cyanide themselves, but then their family members would be left alone to be tortured to death by the Sinhalese army. They may have felt it was better to accompany their family to give them a better chance to avoid being tortured. Also there is a chance they were offered a political settlement, but it was false and just a plan to kill them all.

["Only political wing leaders like Nadesan must have been left behind to negoitiate and take care of remaining civilians and injured."]

Nadesan and others were not fighters, so they had a right to surrender as well as other civil servants. Unfortunately the Sri Lankan government wanted to kill all civil servant members as well. They even wanted to kill family members.; May 27, 2009 at 7:24 AM
Peter said...: ashokkumar2103,

I have no knowledge of LTTE's overall strength. Anyone who says that they know are lying.

What I do know is that my parents in Trinco give food to a number of 'people' who moved there months ago. From what my parents say, situation is much like the '80s.

What I also know is that my sister and her youngest child moved from Mulaitheevu to Trinco on May 1st. So, for anyone who wanted to 'escape' from Mullivaykal, route was definitely available at least until May 1st.

I think it is time we acknowledge that Tamils' can not exercise their rights by conventionally defeating Sri Lanka and India. At one time, when only Sinhalese were directly involved, that was feasible. But no longer.

In my opinion, it is only by dealing effectively with the West we can bring about any solution.

Illusion or real: --KP is senior enough to muster support amongst Tamils, but does not carry same level of baggage as VP. However, there also remains sizable portion of Tamils, at home in 'cells' and in Diaspora, who believe that Iraqi style "terrorism" is the way forward.--

I think, for sake of regional stability, the West wants to ensure that Tamils remain under KP's diplomatic approach. That means timely delivery of results.

It is the main reason why they are pressing for internment camps to be 'opened up'. Diplomacy or militancy on their own could not have stimulated that action. Diplomacy alone would have been ignored, since there would be no consequences and militancy alone would have been used as an excuse, since basic instinct is not to directly respond in favorable terms to violence.; May 27, 2009 at 7:25 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["If Prabhakaran after three decades of fight had decided so, is it possible to for any another leader to emerge soon to carry on further on the same path?"]

If he decided it was time for a final battle, he likely wanted the next phase to be carried on through political pressure and utilizing the international community. He appointed KP for a reason. He knew all military leaders in the country would be dead, and only KP would be left alive (since he was outside the country). Exactly what KP can do remains to be seen. The remnants of a "terrorist" group, with no ability to carry out attacks will have very little political influence. LTTE should remain only as a threat, while the diaspora forms a seperate nonviolent, democratic front to push the IC for change.; May 27, 2009 at 7:29 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["Earlier report was that many of them had been dispersed across north and east as small groups and would regroup when required."]

My view is that such statements were false. All of the fighting units were deployed in the final battles and very few survived. Take for example the Anandapuram case. The Charles Anthony brigade was left with just a couple hundred fighters at that point, and both leaders were in the front lines with them. In the overall battle in Anandapuram there were around 15 high ranking commanders killed. The percentage of leaders to regular cadre was so mismatched, that it indicated all cadres had been depleted at that point.; May 27, 2009 at 7:34 AM
Peter said...: My comment above was summarized by Ireland:

"The fact that the armed conflict is over will not in and of itself achieve stability in Sri Lanka," the Irish delegate said, encouraging the government to pursue "a negotiated settlement with the Tamil community" as soon as possible.

http://in.reuters.com/article/southAsiaNews/idINIndia-39915120090527; May 27, 2009 at 7:43 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: A new version of the fake story:

"On the evening of May 18, a commando handed over to his CO, a pistol and a hip holster, the mid-week newspaper said. The pistol carried the inscription T.V.P 001, raising suspicion that it belonged to Prabhakaran."

So by this they claim they shot Prabhakaran, went and took the gun from his body, but didn't realize who it was. Then the next day the came back because of the inscription on the rusted gun.; May 27, 2009 at 7:53 AM
TamilPower.com said...: T V Sriram
Colombo, May 27 (PTI) Slain Tiger supremo V Prabhakaran's wife and teenage son had fled last year to Tamil Nadu from where they were to fly to Singapore and then to an undisclosed location, a key aide of the rebel chief said amid speculation that the entire family had been wiped out in the conflict.

"When intelligence agents interrogated a close aide of Prabhakaran, he had said that, last year, Prabhakaran's wife (Mathivathani) and younger son (13-year-old) Balachandran had escaped by boat to Tamil Nadu, where they were to meet with an LTTE cadre who was to arrange for them to fly to Singapore, from there to an unknown destination," the 'Bottomline' newspaper reported.

The newspaper did not reveal the name of Prabhakaran's aide in its report while noting that there were rumours that the LTTE chief's wife, younger son and daughter Duwarka too had been killed during the final battles.

However, an officer from the battlefront said they had not recovered any bodies of children, it said.

"Prabhakaran's daughter, Duwarka, who was said to be studying in Ireland, during the height of the final battle, hadn't returned to Sri Lanka, but had been in touch with her father via phone," it said quoting "a credible source" from Norway. PTI

http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/486CBAF1E6E8C718652575C3003EE0A4?OpenDocument; May 27, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Indian said...: //Bhadri said,
The pistol carried the inscription T.V.P 001, raising suspicion that it belonged to Prabhakaran//

Bhadri,I think they got the story wrong just like "Nakheeran" Gopal with his half baked photoshop version

The pistol had TVP 002 embossed on it.Its clearly visible on the pics.

But,VP is a proud man.He always ensured his pride was never hurt.Did he just find some solace by surrendering someone else's pistol.

Questions,questions and more questions; May 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM
perein said...: Peter,

It's been long time since we said hello to each other. Hope you are fine mate.

Just a quick question towards you mate.
Is there any way Tamil community outside Sri Lanka, can join the fellow Sri Lankans to help Northern camps?; May 27, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Peter said...: VP's family will remain as a mystery for the next 20 years as it had done for the past 20.

Judging by the route CA and other adult children of senior leaders took, I suspect Dwaraka is in the LTTE.

Badri,

The part you've quoted, I suspect, is from the version of events which said LTTE tried to create diversion by discarding a pistol and other items of VP. I think that version was floated by D'BS'J amongst others.; May 27, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Peter said...: I hope West is defeated at the UNHRC, so that it abandons the UN and takes practical action.

UNHRC BS means nothing to us. What we need are end to GSP+ and economic sanctions.; May 27, 2009 at 11:15 AM
MPJ said...: Peter,

Too bad...given up on UNHCR...now it has become BS???; May 27, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Peter said...: That Dayan dude should be promoted to FM. We need a canal breed like him to keep taking pot-shots at the West.

US, via its proxy Mexico, has more or less concluded that multilateral action outside of the UNHCR is now necessary.

Bandas can bash around bushes with Ghana, India, Cuba & Co.

All developed countries want war crimes investigations. What the West wants, West gets.; May 27, 2009 at 11:42 AM
MPJ said...: Badri,

I live in SL & a sinhalese. I am amazed after reading this blog about the venom you guys have for SL . It seems that non of you live in SL. We in the south sent truck loads of food & other essentials on everyday basis to the IDP s in the camps. Still collections are being carried out. Ordinary people on the street donate what ever they can.

I am yet to read in this blog, any action taken by tamils living outside SL trying to genuinely help IDP s.

GOSL fought a war against a ruthless terrorist band. All Sri Lankans suffered for 30 odd years because of one mad person that was VP. Now we are free. It is a great feeling to know that we don't now die on a bus or a train in a bomb blast while going to work, school, etc.

GOSL is going to great length that it is not repeated. We in SL are all for it.

You guys destroyed your own people by funding VP. You should have known when to stop. They are paying dearly for it. So don't try again to destroy what is left as well; May 27, 2009 at 11:53 AM
TamilPower.com said...: This article may hurt some ltte supporters but I think we have to come to a reality by reading it. Judge yourself.

http://www.thayagam.info/Editorial/amir.pdf; May 27, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Bhairav said...: Suthas, there is nothing to read. Whether LTTE is there or not, we will go forward in our struggles.

May be we won't reach our ultimate goal in next few decades, but it is surely coming in this century.; May 27, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Bhairav said...: Suthas, stop promoting the eddapan views here. Yes, LTTE made many mistakes, overall the goods outweighs the bad here. I'm not fond of LTTE but you can't live with barbaric Sinhalse anymore.; May 27, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Rajah said...: MPJ
you never been lived in war zone. i have lived in both north and south. in north govsl bombed and shell our village. in south police arrest us again and again without any reason (other than money).

[any action taken by tamils living outside SL trying to genuinely help IDP s]
we have send ship (on the way) full of essential food and medicine. but your king did not give permission for lading and saying if ship reach SL water SL navy will destroy it.

[GOSL fought a war against a ruthless terrorist band]

war was against Tamils. casualties 200,000 Tamils and around 30,000 ltte. SALF bomed temple, schools, churches , civilian house.

[GOSL is going to great length that it is not repeated]
we are not in the mood to go into arm struggle again.

you could be one of the good heard Sinhalese but your govt is the worse govt in the world; May 27, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Rajah said...: VP யை பர்க்கமலும் பழகாமலுமே அவரை பின்தொடர்ந்தோம் எனவே என்னை போருத்த வரையில்
VP = ஒரு எழிச்சி,
VP =ஒரு சுகந்திர தாகம்.
எனவே VP க்கு இறப்பிலை தொடர்ந்து போராடுவோம் இலக்கை அடைவோம்; May 27, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Peter said...: I read the Thayagam editorial out of curiosity. Same old, same old. Now that these jokers have an opportunity act upon their age old talks, all they want to do is talk even more.

Rajah,

As you said, VP = எந்த சக்திக்கும் விலைபோகாத, இலட்சிய நெறி பிறளாத தலைவன்.

விலைபோகாத இலட்சியம் = அழியாத VP; May 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM
gladiator said...: Pete,

HOW IS FUND RISING NOW.... DOING WELL ???; May 27, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Malin said...: Peter Said,

"I hope West is defeated at the UNHRC, so that it abandons the UN and takes practical action.

UNHRC BS means nothing to us. What we need are end to GSP+ and economic sanctions."

Sour Grapes... :) huk huk huk.. Told you Mahinda is cunining bugger.. ;); May 27, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Rajah said...: gladiator
don't worry about if possible save your country from money hunkers(rajapakse bros). sri lanka soon going to be kingdom of rajapakse.; May 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Rajah said...: Malin,
you are not living lk, people in sri lanka know the pain.; May 27, 2009 at 1:22 PM
abc said...: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/opinion/27wed3.html?_r=1&ref=opinion; May 27, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Malin said...: Hi Bhairav.. how are you? why u use "abc"; May 27, 2009 at 1:35 PM
abc said...: whenever I open my personal gmail account(abc), that's the name will appear on the posting. If you want to post on your usual gmail add,in my case- bhairav, you have to log out from your personal gmail account, then choose your intended gmail account for posting. This happens in firefox, not sure about the IE.; May 27, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Sacktheish said...: Malin, why do you care if Bhairav is abc? Are you going to report it to mahinda or something.; May 27, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Veeran said...: there is no hope of any Solution for tamils as can be seen from the way these Sinhalese are celebrating the Victory over tamils.

Tamils are stuck between rock & hard place now.; May 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Unknown said...: info
[Malin, why do you care if Bhairav is abc? Are you going to report it to mahinda or something.]

mahinda,mahinda...mahinda...... worst nightmare peelamists ever had; May 27, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Unknown said...: veeran

[there is no hope of any Solution for tamils as can be seen from the way these Sinhalese are celebrating the Victory over tamils]

why cant you live with us side by side like muslims.wat the hek do you want more?? we can give you anythin but eelam or solutions towards it. you got to undertand; May 27, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Malin said...: "Sinhalese are celebrating the Victory over tamils."

Let me correct it Sinhalese are celebrating the Victory over Elam tamils.

The day you accept your country as Sri Lanka, that day I will come and join your side and i will try to do all that i can for you.

But as longs as you belive in your elam we sri lankans will fight you to the last man standing. Sinhalese has done mistakes we learned from it after 30 years of war. I belive Tamil has also leraned thier lessons too.

United we shall stand, devided we all fall...; May 27, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Veeran said...: [we can give you anythin but eelam or solutions towards it. you got to undertand ]

So u are the Master & we have to wait for watever thing that u deem is good for us ?

Good Days never last forever for u. you got to understand that too.; May 27, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Unknown said...: Malin, Veeran

[Sinhalese has done mistakes we learned from it after 30 years of war. I belive Tamil has also leraned thier lessons too.]

Veeran - read above comment , thats how every sinhalies think. but I dont think you guys have lernt it yet.

[So u are the Master & we have to wait for watever thing that u deem is good for us ?]

Wat do you want?; May 27, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Malin said...: You guys take a lesson from the todays UNHRC result..

West tried to force a resolution on Sri Lanks, MR and team sat down and came up with a resolution that is favouble to sri lanka but gave something for the others also stick.

In the end the resolution that was forced on us was defeated and the resolution that we gave modified to siute certain changes. basicly MR and co.. beat the west.

Come up with something like that for your problems also.. dont take everything that MR force on you but come up with something that is acceptable to moderate sinhalese. if you stick with ur elam or something similar to it you will never get anything..; May 27, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Unknown said...: Veeran

Sri Lanka is not a property of Mahindas or mine to do wat ever we want wth it. Its being built during 3000 years. we cant give one third of it to bunch of blood thirsty babarions (LTTE).; May 27, 2009 at 2:25 PM
MrBrown said...: ''As you said, VP = எந்த சக்திக்கும் விலைபோகாத, இலட்சிய நெறி பிறளாத தலைவன்.

விலைபோகாத இலட்சியம் = அழியாத VP
''
I am really suprised that you make this comment after witnessing dead of 140,000 Tamils and all the wanni people behind razor wire.. still do u think VP had good vision..? AS Badri said ealier..If the war cant not be won It shoundt have been fought...Pity you guys still Glorifying VP..VP died for the course..I accept it..But VP gampled big time and You see the result now..; May 27, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Upul said...: hi bhairav,

did you happen to extract exif tag info from the supposed vp body pics ? Were you successful ? Please let me know.; May 27, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Bhairav said...: upul, I haven't.; May 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM
KB said...: Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule.

Cheers!; May 27, 2009 at 4:00 PM
KB said...: Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.

Cheers!; May 27, 2009 at 4:01 PM
TamilPower.com said...: ###Any one got any glue on this article?###

Duplicate Prabhakaran was a rich businessman in Colombo
Thu, 2009-05-28 03:00
Hilary Rajakarunanayake, Editor – Sri Lanka, Asian Tribune

Colombo, 28 May, (Asiantribune.com): A certain photograh of the late LTTE leader Prabhakaran with a person resembling him in facial features and in the physical build has been found to be that of a ‘double’ for Prabhakaran. This photograph was discovered by the Army in a bunker at Kilinochchi where Prabhakaran was hiding for some time, while the Army was combing the bunker for secret information about Prabhakaran.

Police have now found out that this duplicate Prabhakaran was Satgunarajaha a certain rich businessman from Kotahena in Colombo who had been transporting goods to the North by lorry. After the facsimile photograph was discovered Satgunarajah has fled to India recently.

The son of Satgunarajah has been attacked and shot at by a mob on Tuesday (26) at Kotahena, and he is hospitalized with serious injuries. The son of Prabhakaran’s double had been attacked by an unknown mob at New Chetty Street, Kotahena.

Police investigations have revealed that Satgunarajah has had very intimate relations with Prabhakaran and that he had been visiting the LTTE leader quite often. A senior Police official confirmed this. Further investigations in this connection are being handled under the supervision of OIC Neranjan Abeywardene.

As a matter of interest all Fascist leaders like Hitler and Mussolini have had ‘doubles’ and look alikes who were sent before the public whenever there was suspicion of an assassination attempt.

- Asian Tribune -

http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/17963; May 27, 2009 at 4:43 PM
TamilPower.com said...: ###Regarding to my previous post there is something wrong somewhere else. The following article from Srilankan News Paper tell same story but hide the 'double' story. I am still confused.###

Tamil businessman shot in Kotahena

A 26-year-old Tamil businessman was shot by an unidentified gunman in Kotahena yesterday afternoon and was admitted to the National Hospital with severe injuries.
Police Spokesman SSP Ranjith Gunasekara told Daily Mirror that unknown persons in a trishaw had fired several shots at the victim named Sathgunaraja Wimalan in New Chetty Street around 12.55pm.

He was immediately rushed to the National Hospital and his condition was said to be critical.

According to the police the reason for the attempted killing is yet to be ascertained but the detectives have found some connection between the victim’s father and the LTTE leadership.

The intelligence units have reportedly found some pictures of the victim’s father photographed with the LTTE leader Velupillai Prabhakaran.

Pettah police are conducting further investigations.

http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=50106; May 27, 2009 at 4:58 PM
TamilPower.com said...: The reason why I am arising doubt is when I spoke to an ex LTTE cadre, he told me that when Chandrika try to occupy Jaffna in August 1995, LTTE already knew it and they knew that they have to withdraw from Jaffna and LTTE moved most of cadres and weapons from Jaffna to Vanni from January 1995. It means LTTE's intelligence was powerful and they're well prepared. My conclusion is some smart ideas happened in the last battle. It's my guess.; May 27, 2009 at 5:12 PM
TamilPower.com said...: ஆங்கிலேயப்பிரபுவின் அரண்மணை நோக்கி
நடந்துபோகிறான் எட்டப்பன்
அவன் காலடியில் கொட்டுகின்றன
தங்க நாணயங்கள்
ஆனால் அதன்பால் ஓடிய இரத்தஆறு
பின்னர் வரலாறு

பண்டாரவன்னியனின் பரணிபாடும்
வன்னிக்காடுகளின் மரப்பட்டைகளுக்குள்
இன்னும் காக்கைவன்னியன் ஒளிந்திருக்கிறான்

வரலாற்றை மெல்லத்தடவிப் பார்க்கிறேன்
அதன் நியாயத்தராசு இன்றுவரை
ஏனோ சரியாய் இருந்ததில்லை

சரித்திரத்தில் ஒரு மாவீரனை
பிரசவிக்கும் வரலாறு
பின்பக்கமாய் ஒரு புழுவையும் துப்பிவிடுகிறது
அதன் வலி துளித்துளியாய் சிதறிக்கிடக்கிறது.

இது காலக்காகிதத்தில்
ஆங்காங்கே தெறித்திருக்கும் கறுப்பு மை
ஒரு இன முரண்பாட்டின்மேல் திணிக்கப்பட்ட
மைய இழை

வரலாற்றின் வீதிவழியே
மெல்ல சுவாசித்தால்;
காலம் புரிந்த பலாத்காரத்தின் வடு புரியும்
துரோகத்தனங்கள் நெருஞ்சிகளாய் துருத்திக்கொண்டிருப்பது தெரியும்

யார் இவர்கள்
இழிதொழில்தொங்கும் மரங்காய்ச்சிகள்
மரணக்காற்றொடு கைகோர்த்து நகர்வலம் வருவார்கள்
இரத்தக்கறைகளிலிருந்து வெள்ளிக்காசை எண்ணுகிறார்கள்

தமிழ் பக்கங்கள் ஒவ்வொன்றிலும்
ஒரு சிவப்புச்சாயம் பூசப்பட்டிருக்கிறது
இந்த மொழி விபச்சாரர்களின் கைகளினால்
பூமி சிதைக்கப்பட்டுக்கொண்டிருக்கிறது

இதோ
இந்த நூற்றாண்டின் துரோகம்
அந்தத் தீவிற்குள் மெல்ல நுழைகிறது
கூடு அறுக்கப்பட்டது
அடுத்தடுத்து நடந்தவை காலத்தின் கண்ணாடி

மரபறுந்த அணுக்களுடன் வரலாறு புணரும்போது
இந்த நீலிகள் ஜனிக்கிறார்கள்
அதனால் பிறப்பு வேரறுந்துபோகிறது

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சாமிசுரேஸ்; May 27, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Unknown said...: [It means LTTE's intelligence was powerful and they're well prepared. My conclusion is some smart ideas happened in the last battle. It's my guess]

the thing which I cant understand is how these 'smart 'LTTE lost all the teritory and carders while 'moda' bandas win the war.

I strongly believe that tamil ppl r intelligent but guys, still something wrong with your thinking.; May 27, 2009 at 5:26 PM
TamilPower.com said...: [the thing which I cant understand is how these 'smart 'LTTE lost all the teritory and carders while 'moda' bandas win the war.

I strongly believe that tamil ppl r intelligent but guys, still something wrong with your thinking.]

You already accepted that tamil ppl r intelligent. Thanks for that. There is nothing wrong with our thinking but we want to know the truth behind the scenes. I am mostly happy if VP is alive and that's the reason I raise my doubts in this blog to clear up my mind.; May 27, 2009 at 6:06 PM
FreedomFighter said...: The question of the day

How can minority tamil live securely in sri lanka ? after all this slaughter ?

Does our diaspora activity alone in west will stop abuse ? when they them self losing influence in Sri Lanka ? How they ever going to be able to help us ?

Look at Burma, See how west unable to do anything.

Why can't the west accept the Tamils right to self determination ? nation hood ?; May 27, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Anonymous said...: [ FreedomFighter said...

The question of the day

How can minority tamil live securely in sri lanka ? after all this slaughter ? ...]

GOOD QUESTIONS ...

The west was thrashing the ltte left and right and helping the shit lanka. as soon as the ltte is beaten, the shit lanka can simply tell the west "get lost". now, is there anything for the west to do to help tamils? it appears that there is nothing much as now tamils have no one to protect them!

as soon as the ltte is defeated, eelam tamils have to look at countries like burma. Burma can survive without any help from the west and only with the assistance from india and china. so, the west has created another burma by its actions against the ltte!

it is incredible that south africa also joined hands against tamils even after so many statements from them ... appalling.

the usa was not even able to encourage egypt, saudi arabia, etc.!

UNHRC resolution even supports the barbed wired concentration camps with no access to even Red Cross!

....; May 27, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Peter said...: South Africa has to block vote with rest of Africa and Indian influence is tremendous there.

China and its minions, India and its minions.

At least West has an opportunity to impose sanctions. That's what we should be pushing for.; May 27, 2009 at 8:00 PM
FreedomFighter said...: Every country is only have its own interest. The west's support to Tamils at the moment is because they are loosing the grip on Sri Lanka.
They want to get them in to their influence that had all gone bad now.

West has to realise that they wont be able to continue depend on UN / UNHRC to do thing for them. Because west is a minority in the world.

what are the options they have ?; May 27, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Anonymous said...: [FreedomFighter said...

Every country is only have its own interest.

West has to realise that they wont be able to continue depend on UN / UNHRC to do thing for them. Because west is a minority in the world.
what are the options they have ? ]

This vote has gone even against the UN's chief and John Holmes as both were asking for free access to the concentration camps and the resolution says that it is not acceptable!

In the west (Kosovo, etc.), the NATO can just send their forces. This is near India and sending forces can be hard for the NATO! NATO is also overloaded with iraq, afghan, north korea, iran, etc.!

They can now think of recognizing Tamils right to self-determination, etc.

Economic sanctions will not work as India and china will fund the shit lanka as done in burma and the common man will suffer.

The west hammered the ltte and now it can do nothing to help eelam tamils!

...; May 27, 2009 at 8:31 PM
FreedomFighter said...: Well, I feel these are the options

1) accepting rights of Tamils, calling the situation in sri lanka as genocide

2) covertly helping the ltte re group
US does this all time

3) Be in a position accept a separate state if and when LTTE re emerge.

Lets hope that LTTE has not given up everything already. I see that definitely no way that non armed struggle gaining any security for Tamils.; May 27, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Anonymous said...: [FreedomFighter said...

Well, I feel these are the options

1) accepting rights of Tamils, calling the situation in sri lanka as genocide

2) covertly helping the ltte re group
US does this all time

3) Be in a position accept a separate state if and when LTTE re emerge.

I see that definitely no way that non armed struggle gaining any security for Tamils. ]

i guess that these are not choices, but all MUST be done simultaneously by the west.

there is no way for the ltte to re-emerge in shit lanka. it has to build from outside as al qaeda and others do!

...; May 27, 2009 at 8:59 PM
FreedomFighter said...: other options is request commonwealth country's to take some actions.; May 27, 2009 at 9:25 PM
FreedomFighter said...: Tamil nadu need to continue its agitations to put pressure on state and central government.; May 27, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Gayansphotography said...: FF....... yes...and also developing Nuclear Weapons (In Canada tamils garages) shud be high on the list... ;); May 27, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["Regarding to my previous post there is something wrong somewhere else. The following article from Srilankan News Paper tell same story but hide the 'double' story. I am still confused."]

Do you think someone can look exactly like Prabhakaran and live in Colombo as a big business man without being seen? And what is the use of keeping a body double in Colombo. This has to be the stupidest story yet.

The real story is some Tamil person has been shot at by Sinhala mobs because they hate Tamils. The newspaper tries to cover that by making up idiotic stories.; May 27, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["The reason why I am arising doubt is when I spoke to an ex LTTE cadre, he told me that when Chandrika try to occupy Jaffna in August 1995, LTTE already knew it and they knew that they have to withdraw from Jaffna and LTTE moved most of cadres and weapons from Jaffna to Vanni from January 1995. It means LTTE's intelligence was powerful and they're well prepared. My conclusion is some smart ideas happened in the last battle. It's my guess."]

That all depends on the mental state of the leaders and advisors. If the key advisors were still living like in 1995, and if the leaders mental state was stable and sharp, then this war would have had a different outcome. In a dictatorship, the strategy is only as good as the dictators mental state.; May 27, 2009 at 9:38 PM
FreedomFighter said...: Like Alexander, Napoleon and Thipu Sulthan.
The great hero rise and fall but their fame and what they achieved live. What Prabaharen achived already is far beyond any Tamil leader achieved in last 300 years. No point in criticising him now.

Where we diaspora must have risen early to the occasion to get recognition eelam when we had it. Only when some of us were asking world to help, reset of us hide behind giving silly reasons not to take part.

At least now many people who never open their mouth about plight of people, waking to fact Prabaharan is not their to save them. Now cry and morn.; May 27, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["What Prabaharen achived already is far beyond any Tamil leader achieved in last 300 years. No point in criticising him now."]

What he achieved in the first 25 years was great. What he achieved in the last 6 months was ludicrous. Basically wiping out the entire Tamil army, which was at one point quite large and powerful, destroying all Tamil military leadership in a pointless battle, letting 50,000 civilians to be killed and injured, and leaving an entire race of people with no leader, because he was the only leader for the last 30 years.

Let him be remembered for the 25 year struggle he led brilliantly, but we can't pretend the last six months made any sense at all.; May 27, 2009 at 10:23 PM
CriMeWatCh said...: Application calling for a new democratic leader for tamils...

Now there wont be a chance to enter via democratic to LTTE. THAT'S IT; May 27, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Ashok Kumar said...: The Hindu dated 28th:

(Bhairav, excuse me for quoting again Hindu)

A random conversation with the last batch of refugees reveals that the overwhelming majority of civilians chose to move with the Tigers every time the military advanced into Vanni as they were ‘afraid’ of the forces. Do they think the Tigers should have reviewed their strategy after the fall of Kilinochchi and are they angry with the LTTE?

The response: “Well, in retrospect many things could be said. The Tigers thought till the second week of May that they would somehow turn the tables on the military and we believed it too.; May 28, 2009 at 12:24 AM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["The Tigers thought till the second week of May that they would somehow turn the tables on the military and we believed it too."]

I don't think they ever thought they would win. Their numbers were not comparable and there was no way they could have won. The statements that "we are just about to win the battle" were just morale boosters. Everyone who said that died a few days after making their statements. Amuthab, Ilanthirayan, Nadesan and maybe a few others all died within days of saying we were about to win the war. Looking back it is clear we were nowhere near winning the war. Those who had lists of the number of LTTE cadres certainly didn't think they were going to win the war.; May 28, 2009 at 12:42 AM
Unknown said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; May 28, 2009 at 1:07 AM
Raja said...: The sovereignty argument is preventing any relief for Tamils. We have to openly challenge the borders of Sri Lanka as they are drawn today. In Kosovo there was a secret referendum that led to the declaration of independence of Kosovo. The conflict that led to NATO intervention came many months later. We can certainly have a referendum amongst the diaspora, not sure about a secret referendum on the ground. Perhaps a secret ballot for elected representatives (TNA etc) in addition to the diaspora referendum?

The government in exile concept has been floated by many, but does anyone know if there is any mobilization underway right now to make this a reality?; May 28, 2009 at 1:13 AM
Veeran said...: The UNHRC victory will embolden Srilanka in no small way. There will be more Human rights abuses in the IDP camps & detained tamils will never be able to come out of the camps in good shape.

Now the West must have realised the truth behind the armed struggle taken by tigers & there has to be a Economic Embargo that should detract people from western nations to visit Srilanka.; May 28, 2009 at 1:23 AM
Anonymous said...: [Raja said...

The government in exile concept has been floated by many, but does anyone know if there is any mobilization underway right now to make this a reality?

....

Veeran said...

Now the West must have realised the truth behind the armed struggle taken by tigers & there has to be a Economic Embargo that should detract people from western nations to visit Srilanka. ...]

Now the west has to do many things. All these time, they were blaming the tigers. Now, without tigers, they can see the genocidal shit lanka in action. shit lanka can simply tell the west "go o hell". the west has to understand this and do many things ... a long list of things:

sanctions against shit lanka, recognition of genocide of eelam tamils, recognition of eelam tamils struggle for self-determination, recognition of eelam government in exile, etc., etc.

in short, exile government would be meaningful only if there is some recognition for the struggle of eelam tamils!

...; May 28, 2009 at 1:33 AM
Veeran said...: [sanctions against shit lanka, recognition of genocide of eelam tamils, recognition of eelam tamils struggle for self-determination, recognition of eelam government in exile ]

Before asking west for concrete actions, there has to be a self introspection among Eelam tamils.

Blaming one or someone else will not help us & Person who is capable of taking Western nations & Asian nations must take over the mantle of tamils worldwide & fight with GOSL Politically.

I would suggest Jayalalitha in this aspect for she is powerful & her voices will find resonance among tamils worldwide & in India too.; May 28, 2009 at 1:55 AM
TamilPower.com said...: முகாபே வழியில் மஹிந்த ராஜபக்ஷ?

[28 மே 2009, வியாழக்கிழமை 5:50 மு.ப இலங்கை]/td>

ஜெயமுரசுகொட்டும் இலங்கை அரசுஇந்த யுத்தத் தில் இறுதி வெற்றி பெற்றுவிட்டதாகக் கூறுவது எவ்வளவு தூரம் உண்மை என்பதைப் பொறுத்திருந்துதான் பார்க்க வேண்டும். காலம்தான் அதற்குச் சரியான பதில் கூறும்.
ஆனால் பொருளாதார யுத்தத்தில் அது தோற்றுத் தடுமாறும் நிலையில்தான் உள்ளது. உள்நாட்டு யுத்தம் தென்னிலங் கையின் அடிக்கோடி வரை தாக்கத்தை ஏற்படுத்தியதோ என் னவோ தெரியவில்லை. ஆனால் பொருளாதார யுத்தத்தின் சீரழிவு, ஒவ்வொரு வீட்டினதும் சமையலறை வரை வியா பித்து "குசினிச் சண்டை"யாக விரிவாக்கம் பெற்று நிற்பது கண்கூடு.
யுத்தத்துக்காக, நாட்டின் மூல வளங்களை வருமானத்தை கண்மண் தெரியாமல் கொட்டிக் கொடுத்ததன் விளைவு, இன்று சர்வதேச நாணய நிதியத்திடம் பிச்øசப் பாத்திரத் துடன் கையேந்திக் காவல் இருக்கும் நிலைமையை ஏற் படுத்தி நிற்கின்றது. நாட்டின் நிதிமூலவளச் சேமிப்பு முற் றாகக் கரைந்துவிட்டதால் அன்றாட நிலைமையைச் சமா ளிக்கவேமத்திய வங்கி அல்லாடுவதாகத் தகவல்.
இந்தச் சீத்துவத்தில், "யுத்தத்தில் வெற்றி கண்டாயிற்று", "யுத்தம் முடிவுற்று விட்டது", "இலக்குப் பூர்த்தி" என்றெல் லாம் மிக ஆரவாரமாக அரசுத் தலைமை அறிவித்த பின் னரும் கூட இராணுவச் செலவினத்தைக் குறைக்கும் எண் ணம் படைத் தலைமைக்கு இல்லை என்பது இப்போது வெளிப்படையாக அறிவிக்கப்பட்டிருக்கின்றது.
இலங்கை இராணுவத்தில் இப்போது இரண்டு லட்சம் பேர் இருக்கின்றார்கள் என்று கூறப்படுகின்றது. புலிகள் அமைப்பை முற்றாக நிர்மூலமாக்குவதற்கு இன்னும் ஒரு லட்சம் துருப்பினர் தேவைப்படுகின்றனர் என்று இராணுவத் தளபதியே பகிரங்கமாக அறிவித்திருக்கின்றார். அதா வது, போர் வெற்றியில் முடிவடைந்து விட்டது என அறிவிக்கப்பட்ட பின்னரும் மிச்சம் மீதி இருக்கும் புலிகள் அமைப்பை அழிப்பதற்கு இராணுவத்தின் பலத்தை மேலும் மூன்றில் ஒரு பங்கினால் அதிகரிக்க வேண்டி இருக்குமாம்.
இதற்காக விரைவில் ஆள்சேர்ப்பு ஆரம்பமாகவுள்ளது என்கிறார் இராணுவத் தளபதி.
வடக்கு, கிழக்கில் புதிய இராணுவத் தளங்கள் ஸ்தாபிக்கப்படவிருக்கின்றன,மேலும் ஆயுதங்கள் வாங்கிக் குவிக் கப்படவிருக்கின்றன என்றெல்லாம் கூட படைத்தரப்பில் இருந்து செய்திகள் கசிய விடப்படுகின்றன.
பொருளாதாரம் சீர்கெட்டு, நாடு திண்டாடும் நிலையில் இராணுவத் தளபதியின் இந்த அறிவிப்பும், படையை இவ் வளவு தூரம் விரிவாக்கம் செய்யும் படைத்தரப்பின் பல் வேறு எத்தனங்களும் இயல்பாகவேபல்வேறு சந்தேகங் களை எழுப்பச் செய்கின்றன.
விடுதலைப் புலிகளின் முதுகை முறித்து, அவர்களின் தலைமையை சின்னாபின்னமாக்கி, அழித்தொழித்து விட்ட தாகப் படைத்தரப்பு வெளிப்படையாகப் பிரகடனப்படுத்தி, பெருமித அறிவிப்புகளை வெளியிட்ட பின்னரும் புலிகளின் வலுவான தலைமை இன்னும் தப்பியிருக்கலாம், தலை மறைவாகியிருக்கலாம், தக்க சமயத்தில் மீண்டும் தலை தூக்கலாம் என்றெல்லாம் பல்வேறு மட்டங்களில் பரவலா கப் பேச்சடிபடாமல் இல்லை.
புலிகளை முற்றாக நிர்மூலமாக்க இன்னும் ஒரு லட்சம் இராணுவத்தினர் தேவை என்று கூறி, அதற்கான ஆள்திரட் டலை முழு யுத்த உஷார் நிலையில் மேற்கொள்வது போன்ற பின்னணியில் படைத்தரப்பு இப்போதும் முன் னெடுக்க முயல் வது, புலிகளின் எஞ்சிய தலைமை தொடர் பாகப் பல்வேறு மட் டங்களில் அடிபடும் மேற்படி ஊகப் பேச்சுகளுக்கு வலு வூட்டும் அம்சமாக அமைந்திருப்பது கவனிக்கத்தக்கது.
அதுவும் நாட்டின் பொருளாதாரம் "டயர் காற்றுப் போய் றிம்மில் ஓடுவது போன்ற நிலையை" எட்டிய பின்னரும், இராணுவத் தயாரிப்பு ஆயத்தங்களுக்கு மேலும் கட்டு மட் டில்லாத தொகையைத் தொடர்ந்து கொட்டிக் கொடுப்பதற்கு வழி செய்யும் விதத்தில் நிதியை வீணாக்க முயல்வது, புலிகளின் எஞ்சிய தலைமை சம்பந்தமாக அரசுத் தலைமைக்கு உள்ள அச்சத்தை வெளிப்படுத்துவதாகவேஅமைகின்றது.

http://www.uthayan.com/pages/editorial_pages.php; May 28, 2009 at 2:13 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Veeran,

Both DMK and ADMK have more or less equal strength in Tamilnadu. There could be some seasonal variations.

By depending on one leader, we would be antagonizing the other.

Atleast in Eelam issue, if both these parties did not work against one another, it would be better.

That is why they chose 'neutral' Nedumaran to head 'Thamizhar Paadhugappu Peravai.'

If there was unity on this in Tamilnadu, by now Eelam would have emerged.; May 28, 2009 at 2:14 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Makkal TV, which was giving prominence for Eelam developmants, has been unofficially banned in most parts of Tamilnadu.

Sumangali Cable Vision, which is owned by Sun TV group, owns most of the cable networks in Tamilnadu and it has discontinued telecasting Makkal TV.

Now, Jaya TV has started reporting Eelam related news regularly and yesterday quoted 'bottom line's' news of Madhivadhani, Balachandran and Dwarakha being alive. Some change towards Tigers..

Sun TV network's popularity and hold on cable distribution is major factor to be considered. During their split, even DMK couldn't manage them even being a ruling party. Media power!

Even during the last elections, the influence of Sun TV couldn't be discounted.; May 28, 2009 at 2:35 AM
Anonymous said...: [Veeran said...

I would suggest Jayalalitha in this aspect for she is powerful & her voices will find resonance among tamils worldwide & in India too. ]

There is absolutely no point in looking at TN as long as the centre is against us. It is clear that whatever the tamils are gonig to get, it'll have to be against the wishes of India. India even supported the concentration camps for Eelam Tamils just yesterday at the UNHRC. Therefore, only if West finds that supporting the Eelam Tamils will significantly benefit them, eelam Tamils can recover from this pathetic position!

...; May 28, 2009 at 4:31 AM
Indian said...: //Veeran said,
I would suggest Jayalalitha in this aspect for she is powerful & her voices will find resonance among tamils worldwide & in India too//

You people have completely forgotten that only in Feb first week this lady told reporters that "YOU should be addressed as Srilankan Tamils and not as Eezham Tamils because there is nothing called as Eezham".

You people pinned your hopes on her and so surprised that you still continue to do so; May 28, 2009 at 4:37 AM
Sacktheish said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; May 28, 2009 at 4:52 AM
Anonymous said...: [info said...

Now lets see what's happening Colombo

--Harassing Tamil girls
--Tamil shops burning down
--Tamil forced to hold SINHALESE flags ]

when the UNHRC commends the conduct of the shit lanka, the eelam tamils should be pleased that thing are not worse than how they're now for eelam tamils in the shit lanka!

...; May 28, 2009 at 5:01 AM
Veeran said...: Why i support Jayalalitha is she has the power &skills to make Indian establishment to support Eelam tamils. She is a good skillful orator who can bring in India & West to support Eelam tamils.

Now that Ltte is no more, more pressure can be applied on Indian govt to support tamils for a Federal Political Soln as in tamilnadu.

Karunanidhi is passe & likely to pass into sunset in a max year or so.

Tamils need India as well as west for having a honored dignity life in srilanka.; May 28, 2009 at 5:33 AM
Anonymous said...: [Veeran said...

Tamils need India as well as west for having a honored dignity life in srilanka. ]

Unfortunately, TN Tamils did not show much sympathy to what was happening to the Eelam Tamils. It may be due to the black-out of eelam tamil-related news in TN. Whatever, it is, if the TN people did not show during the voting, only ppl like Nedumaran will still continue to take-up our problems. For any leading political party to take-it up seriously, the voters have to be with this issue in a big way! It is clear that the TN voters have other important matters!

...; May 28, 2009 at 6:22 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Even if 20% of Tamils in Tamilnadu actively support Eelam cause, it would be a significant number.

Tamilnadu has totally failed to rally in support of Eelam Tamils but still there are significant number of people who feel for them.

Today they may not be in a position to pressurise the state and central government to give up anti Eelam activities. But we cannot accept failure and leave it just there.

Tamilnadu with its huge Tamil population, should play a major contributory role along with Tamils in other countries, in supporting Eelam Tamils to form their homeland.

It should be something like Israel for Jews.

We need numbers to create more impact in the international arena. That's possible when all Tamils unitedly start supporting the formation of Eelam.

Somebody should take the initiative to organize all the Tamils to give their support for Eelam. This was almost getting shaped, but unfotunately the news of Prabhakaran's death had shattered many hearts.; May 28, 2009 at 7:29 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Shexmus Amed: (Kurdish nationalist?)

The LTTE, in my view, is the gold-standard for all national liberation struggles despite its defeat. And what a glorious defeat it was! My people suffered many defeats too; in 1925, 1938, 1946, 1975, 1988, 1991 and 1999. None could match the glory of LTTE’s fight to the death. This was a struggle against overwhelming odds that ended in martyrdom for your leaders, but their memories and their struggle will live in songs and stories of all Tamil people for a thousand years to come.

That the LTTE managed to keep its leader and senior cadres alive right down to the last day and the last fire-fight before they too succumbed to the vastly superior man and fire power of the SLA is a testament to the intelligence, strength, discipline and dedication of the organisation. V. Prabhakaran and his senior commanders could have ordered the rank and file LTTE personnel to lay down their arms, before fleeing the island for a third country. The fact that they -as well as their families-did not flee the conflict zone nor surrendered, but chose to fight to the death like tens of thousands of other LTTE cadres that preceded them is a lesson to all leaders who ask others to sacrifice their lives for a cause. I doubt many insurgent leaders, Kurds included, would show as much courage and offer as much personal sacrifice in similar circumstances.; May 28, 2009 at 8:28 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Shexmus Amed:

In more specific mistakes, the LTTE should have pushed on to re-capture Jaffna at all costs after liberating the Elephant Pass in 1999, even if this meant losing ground elsewhere. The cost could have been very high with tens of thousands of SLA soldiers still occupying the peninsula but the SL political and military forces were in complete disarray. Unfortunately, the window of opportunity was lost and the LTTE eventually found itself fighting on more than one front.; May 28, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Ashok Kumar said...: Shexmus Amed:

History will never forgive Karuna for betraying his commitment and turning his guns on his leader and comrades no matter what the real reasons for his defection might be. The best and most honourable action for Karuna, as well as for his movement and for his people, was to either resign altogether from all his functions and duties within the LTTE -after voicing his grievances in private, even if it meant death for him-or seek a less active role in the movement.

He did neither, preferring to be an active turncoat. Beloved, respected and trusted neither by Tamils nor Sinhalese, Karuna will surely meet a violent end, with each side crediting the other for it, and with very few people shedding tears for his demise.

People of Tamil Eelam are smart, talented and resourceful. You shall rise again from your ashes. By ballots or bullets, Tamil Eelam shall become a reality so long as you keep up your hopes and dreams alive.; May 28, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Roy Muller said...: USA . Prez Obma aare you listening !!!

Now you and the west (EU etc) have seen through Asian countries (Myanmar, India, China, Malaysia , Pakistan , Iran) primitive 3rd world mentality (human right abuse, oppression of minorities etc).

USA should NOT Support India and Pakistan in their fight against Talibans and Kashmiri militants.

Tamils in India, after seeing what being done to tamils in SL , support the militant groups operating in India even if they are Let etc; May 28, 2009 at 9:11 AM
abc said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; May 28, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Bhairav said...: Guys, I spoke with few folks in Vavuniya, they say VP is alive. I cannot believe the stupidity of these people. 3 of my distant relatives who were killed on May 15 in war zone by SLA's bombardment were alive for 5 hours in the bunker before they died that means medical help could have 1000s of people in the war zone. Two of my other distant relatives lost legs, one is being treated in Kurunagal hospital, other is in the Vavuniya camp.; May 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Bhairav said...: that means medical help could have saved 1000s of people in the war zone.; May 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Peace said...: ashokkumar

[Even if 20% of Tamils in Tamilnadu actively support Eelam cause, it would be a significant number.

Tamilnadu has totally failed to rally in support of Eelam Tamils but still there are significant number of people who feel for them.

Today they may not be in a position to pressurise the state and central government to give up anti Eelam activities. But we cannot accept failure and leave it just there.

Tamilnadu with its huge Tamil population, should play a major contributory role along with Tamils in other countries, in supporting Eelam Tamils to form their homeland.

It should be something like Israel for Jews.

We need numbers to create more impact in the international arena. That's possible when all Tamils unitedly start supporting the formation of Eelam.

Somebody should take the initiative to organize all the Tamils to give their support for Eelam. This was almost getting shaped, but unfotunately the news of Prabhakaran's death had shattered many hearts.]

Tamil Nadu's impoverished population cannot have a major impact on the fate of Eelam Tamils in today's context. The last hope was when the LTTE was holding out as TN went to the polls. The DMK government's tricks worked quite well and the thugs in power have successfully snuffed out/confused TN's support for Eelam.

The Indian state needs to be weakened before we can see meaningful help from TN. American investments are keeping the Indian thugocracy alive, if not it could have gone down like the USSR by now.; May 28, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Anonymous said...: [ashokkumar2103 said...

Shexmus Amed:

In more specific mistakes, the LTTE should have pushed on to re-capture Jaffna at all costs after liberating the Elephant Pass in 1999, even if this meant losing ground elsewhere. The cost could have been very high with tens of thousands of SLA soldiers still occupying the peninsula but the SL political and military forces were in complete disarray. Unfortunately, the window of opportunity was lost and the LTTE eventually found itself fighting on more than one front. ]

EXACTLY ... I also wondered the same on numerous occasions. In fact, it was a mistake with respect to the direction they took. They took N-West towards Jaffna. They MUST have taken N-East VVT, PPT, Puthur, Udupity, etc. With the same manpower (that was used to capture parts of Jaffna town area) the ltte would have 5-10 km from Palali (from Udupity) and 15 km from KKS! So my dream path has been kodikamam, Varani, Karavedi, Udupity, PPT, VVT, etc., instead of going into Jaffna which just symbolic only! Further, the terrain in Vadamarachi would have been more friendlier than Jaffna area!

All retrospective analyses ....

....; May 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Anonymous said...: [ Peace said...

The Indian state needs to be weakened before we can see meaningful help from TN. American investments are keeping the Indian thugocracy alive, if not it could have gone down like the USSR by now. ]

USA now fairly against out-sourcing. hope that it'll have the desired impact on the Indian economy!

I agree that TN popln is a write-off as far as eelam tamils are concerned! B Nadesan made numerous statements expressing strong believe in TN Tamil popln and he suffered terribly also :-(

...; May 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Upul said...: Badri, Peter:

I am actually very curious why they would remove the exif data for the supposed vp body, but keep others.; May 28, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Anonymous said...: [Upul said...

Badri, Peter:

I am actually very curious why they would remove the exif data for the supposed vp body, but keep others. ]

Yes, there are numerous confusions. Some suggest that Pottu is under custody. The might be true for VP?

VP's family was in India for many years. It was possible for the RAW to have VP's parent DNA data? In this way, VP's identity can be confirmed by the SLA & India privately?

Now, of course, VP's parents are in the concentration camps in Vavuniya?

...; May 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Veeran said...: [Now, of course, VP's parents are in the concentration camps in Vavuniya?
]

It must be very sad for them to see their entire Son's family wiped out. It shows VP never gave any favors to his family members but i really wonder how come a brilliant tactician like VP underestimated the SLA when he started the war.; May 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM
smelly cat said...: Bhairav "Two of my other distant relatives lost legs, one is being treated in Kurunagal hospital..." -- I'm just curios. Who are the medical staff at Kurunagala Hospital. Sinhalese or Tamil?; May 28, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Anonymous said...: [Veeran said...

It must be very sad for them to see their entire Son's family wiped out. It shows VP never gave any favors to his family members but i really wonder how come a brilliant tactician like VP underestimated the SLA when he started the war. ]

They must know if wife, daughter & the youngest son were also in Mullai NFZ. There were rumors like that the daughter is now studying in Ireland, wife & youngest boy are in another country, etc.

Yes, when he decided to support MR during the presidential elections in 2005, there were already first signs of destruction for the LTTE in the form of blasting the supply ships jointly by india & shit lanka. Given that there would not be any solution for this problem, Ranil would have been a better choice to work towards a federal set-up. Ranil was not able to do when chandrika was prez. Bu, if Ranil were to be prez, there would have been much higher chance of this happening.

...; May 28, 2009 at 1:00 PM
Anonymous said...: [Bu, if Ranil were to be prez, there would have been much higher chance of this happening. ]

all retrospective!

...; May 28, 2009 at 1:02 PM
smelly cat said...: ["Tamils in India, after seeing what being done to tamils in SL , support the militant groups operating in India even if they are Let etc"]- Roy Muller. Yea! Brilliant advice. Look how that strategy of supporting militants has worked out for Sri lankan Tamils.; May 28, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Veeran said...: [They must know if wife, daughter & the youngest son were also in Mullai NFZ ]

I heard that Soosai wife who was captured in the seas spilled all the beans abt VP & all the leaders with their leaders trapped there.

Hence that made GOSL to launch a Final deadly shelling that killed more civilians.

It is highly unlikely that VP's daughter & second son are alive in some other country considering the reports coming up.; May 28, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Veeran said...: Smelly cat is back again after the divorce kiss !

lol; May 28, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Anonymous said...: [smelly cat said...

Bhairav "Two of my other distant relatives lost legs, one is being treated in Kurunagal hospital..." -- I'm just curios. Who are the medical staff at Kurunagala Hospital. Sinhalese or Tamil? ]

GREAT ... 3 Tamil doctors who were serving in Mullai NFZ is under detention by the barbarian GOSL for treating injured people. The Shit lanka actually wanted all injured in the NFZ to die and these doctors were actually spoiling it. And no paying for it.

In addition, it was this singhala barbarians who introduced the standardization and deprived the education to the Tamils. This is happening even no. After doing this to Tamils (prevening them from studying) no these DIRTY THIRD GREAT BARBARIANS ARE ASKING WHO ARE TREATING THE TAMILS.

TAMILS ARE ASKING WHO INJURED US, WHO DENIED US THE EDUCATION.

SINGHALA BARBARIANS WHO ROTE IN HELL ...

...; May 28, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Veeran said...: [The Shit lanka actually wanted all injured in the NFZ to die and these doctors were actually spoiling it. And no paying for it.
]

As per Bhairav post, it seems Most people died in Bunkers itself for lack of medical attention by doctors & medicines.

I am sure that SPY satellites must be having a live footage of tamils being shelled by SLA & why no govts are willing to publish the pics ?; May 28, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Anonymous said...: [smelly cat said...

Bhairav "Two of my other distant relatives lost legs, one is being treated in Kurunagal hospital..." -- I'm just curios. Who are the medical staff at Kurunagala Hospital. Sinhalese or Tamil? ]

GREAT ... 3 Tamil doctors who were serving in Mullai NFZ is under detention by the barbarian GOSL for treating injured people. The Shit lanka actually wanted all injured in the NFZ to die and these doctors were actually spoiling it. And now paying for it.

In addition, it was this singhala barbarians who introduced the standardization and deprived the education to the Tamils. This is happening even now. After doing this to Tamils (preventing them from studying) now these DIRTY THIRD GREAT BARBARIANS ARE ASKING "WHO ARE TREATING THE TAMILS?".

TAMILS ARE ASKING WHO INJURED US, WHO DENIED US THE EDUCATION.

SINGHALA BARBARIANS YOU ROTE IN HELL ...

...; May 28, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Veeran said...: I know that UN is toothless with respect to USA. never Imagined that even Sorrylanka / shit lanka will be able to take UN for a ride.

SHAME on u UN.; May 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Anonymous said...: [Veeran said...
I am sure that SPY satellites must be having a live footage of tamils being shelled by SLA & why no govts are willing to publish the pics ? ]

First, the anti-shit lanka resolution at UNHRC was a joke as well. Read this:

http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=29456

“Glaring hypocrisy, blatant sophistry” Boyle slams Swiss UN Resolution

The anti-shit lanka resolution begs shit lana to investigate the HR violation. In itself, it suggests, that the shit lanka is clean of genocide and capable of conducting high standard HR violation (ONLY committed by the ltte) investigations.

if those pictures were released before the vote, many countries would have had a second thought!

USA is perhaps waiting for its opportuntiy to take it up at ICJ in Hague?

The world was pretty much like this (i.e. happy to tolerate any level of violence) just before WW-II. I feel that the human race should be exposed to something like that in order to bring back our human nature?

...; May 28, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Veeran said...: [if those pictures were released before the vote, many countries would have had a second thought!
]

This UNHRC is a farce that is ruled by NAM & African & Muslim nations to Screw up Israel.

Hence USA did not want to join UNHRC all these years but seeing the influence of china, USA is joining next year.

So this UNHRC victory is just a farce & now USA & UK knows how hard the Sri lanka nut is to crack.

Hopefully IMF loan will be derailed so that Some political pressure will be brought on to them.; May 28, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Anonymous said...: [Veeran said..
Hopefully IMF loan will be derailed so that Some political pressure will be brought on to them. ]

IMF has no influence. do u know when burma got imf money last time? they're surviving with back-door moneys from china and india ...

the est had a good leverage on the shit lanka in the name of ltte and the west ruined it!

...; May 28, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Sacktheish said...: VP died because the civilians and some of his relatives told him to surrender. VP never listens to anyone, that's why he did lot of good things. But when people told him to surrender, he was probably heart broken. Also because of the 5,000 + deaths was caused of him.

People lost hope of him.

He had two options:

1) Escape and live like a coward. (Thats what people would of said becuase there was already 5,000 + deaths because of him)

2) Die fighting for the cause. He had the feeling that he did this for his people but they didn't give him full their support.; May 28, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Veeran said...: [they're surviving with back-door moneys from china and india ...
]

But Burma is not doing any genocide. A bomb blast in colombo will scare the Shit out of all victory celebrations & Economy will be tumbled.

It is essential that Economy of Srilanka be always screwed up otherwise they wont think or talk of political soln to tamils.; May 28, 2009 at 1:38 PM
TamilPower.com said...: Prabakaran’s satillite phone found. Information regarding his contact revealed through Sim Card (Where comes Sim Card in Satillite phone?)
Posted on Thursday, May 28, 2009

Sri Lanka army commander Gen. Sarath Fonseka says intelligence authorities have seized the satellite phone used by LTTE chief Vellupilai Prabhakaran and calls made by him will provide information about the terror chief’s contacts.

In interview with an television in Sri Lanka, General Fonseka “revealed that the cellular satellite phone used by Prabhakaran is in the hands of the government and the army has received highly important information from the sim card obtained from that phone.”

“He said further information will be informed about the important contacts of Prabhakaran from the phone information,” according to a version of the interview published on Sri Lanka army website.Fonseka also said several Western countries were trying to save the terrorist leader and his top aides during the final days of the offensive and he believes several NGO’s working for humanitarian groups were on the payroll of the LTTE.

Note: The known fact is that the satillite phone does not contain any sim card. The above news proves only their great intelligence to make people fool.

http://www.sibernews.com/200905283135.html; May 28, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Anonymous said...: [SuthaS said...
Note: The known fact is that the satillite phone does not contain any sim card. The above news proves only their great intelligence to make people fool. ]

does it have any similar retrievable memory mechanism?

...; May 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Anonymous said...: [info said...

2) Die fighting for the cause. He had the feeling that he did this for his people but they didn't give him full their support. ]

people supported strongly. if we have a free referendum, it'll be shown even after the allegations of ltte firing at eelam tamil civilians, i.e. tamil civilians will support ltte over-whelmingly, if they're told that would give them freedom from the singhala barbarians.

the problem is simple ... our vanni people support is no match for 100s of thousands of cluster bombs, phosphorous bombs, multi-barrels, kfir, mig, etc., etc. while ltte's ships have also been destroyed for the last 2-3 years!

....; May 28, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Veeran said...: [our vanni people support is no match for 100s of thousands of cluster bombs, phosphorous bombs, multi-barrels, kfir, mig, etc., etc. while ltte's ships have also been destroyed for the last 2-3 years ]

When Wanni was being Bombed, VP must have given the same reply to Colombo with bombings & shellings.

That would have made them known how it felt to be bombed.; May 28, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Anonymous said...: [Veeran said...

[they're surviving with back-door moneys from china and india ...
]

But Burma is not doing any genocide. A bomb blast in colombo will scare the Shit out of all victory celebrations & Economy will be tumbled.

It is essential that Economy of Srilanka be always screwed up otherwise they wont think or talk of political soln to tamils. ]

yes, burma is treating all citizens equally bad ... that is a consolation.

until about 10 days ago, we were looking at the ltte to do the job of spoiling the economy. that cannot happen no.

i still believe that it is very easy to run a country requirig a couple of billion US $ by china and India with no economic activity in shit lanka except all singhala men are soldiers killing tamils and singhala ladies in the mid-est being screwed by rich fatty arab's cocks!

...; May 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Veeran said...: VP must have atleast escaped from the safe zone considering the stake that tamil struggle is dependent on him.

Now SLA is showing VP dead body & asking them to invest in Srilanka economy.

If their economy improves, then tamils future will never improve without any solution. They will have to born & die as second class citizen of srilanka.; May 28, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Peter said...: "Evidence gathered by The Times has revealed that at least 20,000 Tamils were killed on the beach by shelling as the army closed in on the Tigers."

Full front-page article in Friday's The Times (UK) newspaper.

Those is the UK, please collect this paper as it would be useful in the summer campaign targeting Marks and Spencer.; May 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Peter said...: Mahindan10,

Yes, India and China would be able to bankroll GoSL, but both those countries, at least India, are piss poor. They have many quislings whom they would have to spoon-feed once a precedence is set. It is for that reason China allowed Pakistan to go to IMF, despite that country being its strongest historical ally in the region. Likewise, moda land was also allowed to go begging to the IMF.

While India and China will assist the moda land where possible, they wouldn't want to upset other quislings by affording favoured treatment to Banda-stan.

Our tactic should be to isolate Banda-stan from the West. Unlike Zimbabwe, Sudan or, even, Burma, Banda-stan does not have oil or large quantity of other sought after natural resources.; May 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Anonymous said...: [Malin said...

Any tamil who has little bit of brains please stay away from these morons.

THANK LORD THAT YOUR ARE NOT IN SRI LANKA...]

Vast majority of Eelam Tamils are the same (i.e. they'll vote for independence from singhala barbarians if given the opportunity). the only difference is in the barbarins land (sht lanka) they cannot talk and vote freely. Outside of the shit lanka, eelam tamils can talk freely ithout being worried of white van, torture, rape, etc.!

get it singhala moron?

...; May 28, 2009 at 8:16 PM
TamilPower.com said...: Any one know the fate of Bhanu and Jeyam..here is the link..it's 100% them.

http://neruppu.com.c1.previewmysite.com/?p=8540; May 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Anonymous said...: [Peter said...

Mahindan10,

Yes, India and China would be able to bankroll GoSL, but both those countries, at least India, are piss poor. ...]

Modas will be encouraged to beg and get money everywhere including the imf, adb, west, etc. when the modays cannot fool all these sources, indians and china will come in. Being poor does not prevent india and china to bahave as the super-powers and what they're doing to eelam tamils is a pat this!

yes, there are differences between burma and shit lanka:

until 15 days ago, there was ltte and burma never had something like that, except the lady under-house arrest.

burma does not have a strong diaspora while eelam tamils have it.

so, the diaspora has to continue to work irrespective of the outcome of the armed struggle!

....; May 28, 2009 at 8:29 PM
TamilPower.com said...: After I see the comments of Badri, I almost believe his view is mostly true. He is right.; May 28, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Roy Muller said...: "Jokers" left disppointed by envoy's absence

http://www.malaysiakini.tv/video/17135.html; May 28, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Anonymous said...: [SuthaS said...

Any one know the fate of Bhanu and Jeyam..here is the link..it's 100% them.

http://neruppu.com.c1.previewmysite.com/?p=8540 ]

This is extremely irresponsible of the pottu :-) he MUST have gone for the cyanide or any other way out instead of becoming yet another Karuna!

hope that no one knows the whereabouts of SP (or KP).

...; May 28, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Anonymous said...: [Roy Muller said...

"Jokers" left disppointed by envoy's absence ]

but, i guess that you know how malaysia voted a few days ago at UNHRC!

pretty much all countries are doing like ... allowing people to talk as much as they want against the shit lanka and when it comes to crucial actions, these countries are gonig aganiist the eelam tamils!

...

...; May 28, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["I am actually very curious why they would remove the exif data for the supposed vp body, but keep others."

The pictures on Army.lk have exif data saying it is 19th of May. The other exif data was probably lost when resizing the photo in Photoshop.; May 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Editor: "Badrinath" said...: ["It is highly unlikely that VP's daughter & second son are alive in some other country considering the reports coming up."]

I agree with this. The initial report of finding the bodies of his children is likely true, but was retracted because it gave a very bad impression. I saw even some sinhalese complaining saying the 13 year old child should never have been harmed and it was inhuman.

After realizing how it made them look, two days latter they changed the story and said no bodies had been found.; May 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM
wijayapala said...: "Our tactic should be to isolate Banda-stan from the West."

Unfortunately Peter's plan will never materialize. With the end of the war, there will be little for the US and EU to criticize SL. The same iNGOs which have been cursed by Sinhala nationalists will lobby the Western governments to avoid punitive action, in order for them to retain access to reconstruction projects. Furthermore, the nature of Western democracies is such that they turn over every few years, bringing in new leaders who have Eelamoid-like attention spans. They will forget the past and focus on the present.

Nice try Pete. I'm afraid that "isolating Bandastan" will be just as successful as your grand counteroffensive, or your Iraqi-style insurgency.; May 28, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Upul said...: please scan the times article headlines and post in flicker or someother website and pass a link, we need to spread the news far and wide to everybody of the massacre. please do this for tens of thousands of innocent killed by these sinhala government bastards; May 28, 2009 at 11:48 PM

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